This part of a comment made me laugh >two generations have been the victims of abstinence and STD messages that moralize and demonize sex rather than present a positive message about human sexuality, and young people are fearful of marriage having seen so many fail.
Ignoring the fact that older generations preached far more against sex than the recent ones, why is this even seen as a problem? Who cares?
I have two crab brothers so it's no surprise to me. The mouse utopia study on overwhelming social stress had this outcome so I think that's just as viable an explanation as trying to make it the crabs fault.
Not sure if you're talking about the findings of the article or that comment but monogamy is useful to society, it does harness less prestigious men to something productive if they can still reproduce. Even succubi today recognize that subconsciously since they want to settle later in life. If both young men and succubi were abstinent at the same rate it wouldn't be an issue but if it's only men that are semi-forced into this position because of social attitudes and dating habits then it's not going to lead to anything good. As for the comment, sexual liberation is one of the few things that are sacred in the West today, so making people responsible about it is as if you were trampling on their rights. Also I'm not sure previous generations were anti-sex as much as the evangelo-cons who want abstinence taught in schools today. The boomers and hippies of the 60's seem much more pro-sex and the generations prior, I honestly don't know but it seems it was okay so long as it was within marriage.
>>156175 Whoever wrote that is an idiot. If younger generations are treating sex and marriage more warily, they're right to do so. Modern sexuality should be demonized, it's mindless atavism and is about on the same level as a heroin junkie chasing the next high. The shitty boomer generation promoted this bullshit endlessly, and thanks to them we now have hordes of dysfunctional families churning out broken individuals and super-STDs that are resistant to antibiotics. This norman shit has been going on for decades now. It would be funny if it wasn't so damn pathetic.
>>156182 It's undeniable that there is more productivity but that would largely be due to automation. That chart is a bit old now, no? How is it shaping against today's dating habits with tinder and the likes? The labor force participation rate is dropping. And that productivity depends in large part on a small number of people and if the general public gets more unsatisfied either through lack of diversions like sex or by lack of meaningfulness like jobs are for many people then it's not sustainable especially if it's both that lack at the same time.
>>156175 A lot of the comments have to do with how young men have stopped growing up and blame them for it but nobody's stopping to wonder why they aren't growing up anymore.
>>156188 if you look at japan's virgins in males and females, males are obviously higher but females virgins increased over the years too. It seems likely the same phenomenon is happening in the west now. If I recall 25% of 25 year olds are virgin males in Japan or is it more? We're still far away from those numbers but the same thing is happening in the west.
No jobs (labor force participation rate has been on a steady decline for years) , no pussy. Exactly the same reason. I'm sure there are other factors too.
>>156173 All what crap like this is really revealing is what was already true for a much longer time then they will admit. It isn't that this is only just happening over the past few years. They will go to all lengths to lie about the truth of female hypergamy because if the truth about succubi was known by men it would collapse societies. Most men that ever claimed to be getting laid a ton were just lying. They actually always were getting little to no sex at all.
>>156215 I mean even this site is a example of that, given our treatment of crabs and all. On the one hand we could be more understanding and try to guide them on the correct path of acceptance but they are kind of annoying and if you cut them too much slack they would ruin this site.
>>156188 This. A male must penetrate to have sex so masturbation is not sex, but a female has to be penetrated to have sex and penetrates herself when masturbating, therefore by masturbating a female loses her virginity thus no celibate females.
>>156228 while fine for normal usage, thats a largely irrelevant definition of virginity for wizchan. any sexual activity is sex, makes one not a virgin, so no handjob wizards allowed.
>>156230 You are indeed correct. However, I'd also like to point out that when we refer to virginity, we in fact mean handholdless, kissless, hugless virginity, which of course excludes romantic contact as well. Whilst hugless and handholdless probably apply more to relations with females than relations with males, I think kissless and no-relationship rule still applies to homosexual wizards. Thanks for bringing that up, I get annoyed when homosexuals who have had anal post on here claiming technical virginity gives them the right to do so.
>>156234 By their definition, playing video games instead of being involved in the workforce and providing for your family. If that's enough to write off a man as a failure, i'm not sure why nobody's saying the same thing about succubi. Theyre just as caught up in fantasy and are more preoccupied with idealized emotional roller coaster ride relationships than giving birth to children and being the head of their household. Traditional values are rapidly becoming obsolete and it's only natural that traditional gender roles would follow, it's just easier to put all of the blame on men being losers when succubi's moral compass is just as messed up
>>156239 I phrased it incorrectly and I apologize. It was a one off occurrence in which I was arguing against two people about whether or not anal penetration counted as sex.
The "succubi have more power to pick a quality mate" argument is hilarious. I bet there were just as many miserable single moms with hyperactive niglet kids 50 years ago right?
>>156315 I love when I hear that one. Appeal to nature isn't it? Yeah because succubi are going over what is most genetically beneficial for the good of their offspring and species as a whole when they're picking out a fresh Chad to get pumped and dumped by that week. Apparently things like height and penis size are the epitome of genetic quality.
Also these people want to pick and choose what's naturally ok and what isn't when in the old old days it wasn't rare to piss someone off enough with that shit to get clobbered to death by a rock to the head.
Am I the only one who doesn't buy these "millenials are having less sex than the previous generations" articles? I look around me (both IRL and online) and it seems normalfags my age are having more sex than ever
>>158561 Don't be disingenuous. This is an anomaly in a modern system that already goes against nature and you know it. Although in vitro birthing basically mimics the selective breeding anyway if the quality of sperm has to be tightly regulated
>>158563 What do you mean by "the natural way"? There is no such thing as an "unnatural way" of sex in the same way how planes fly in multiple directions but that doesn't mean one of them defies natural law somehow. Humans had generally been outside of western norms on marriage so even if you assume a "natural" form of marriage exist, it would be absurd to call the western nuclear family that only existed for few hundred years as "natural".
>>158582 Why do you think "natural" mode of reproduction is better? The outcome is the same regardless the sperm and the egg meets with either modes of reproduction.
What did you expect? the peons' handbook forbids it and demands celibacy. Sex ed advocates for it. You'll get beaten in a fucking mating struggle or worse.
It isn't because males are deciding not to have sex, it's because of female hypergamy and the bottom males not getting any sex at all, while the top males have 8 females each, naturally resulting in a true patriarchy.
What you are seeing is the end result of Jewish subversion of the traditional marriage, monogamy and civilization. This isn't sustainable and we all see the effects this has on the West already.
>>159634 Most males should just be castrated, seriously, most males are just useless and have shitty DNA, if we want what's best for the human race we would keep the crappy beta males as a genderless underclass of eunuchs. Look what traditional marriage and bullshit has done to us, it has made a bunch of weak and diseased people that are unfit for life.
>>159635 If "betas" don't get sex anyway in the current system then there's no point castrating them because they're not reproducing anyway. >>159638 Talent for attracting females by no means necessarily implies intelligence. It implies talent for attracting females. There are plenty of dumb bitches out there fucking equally, if not more retarded, guys.
>>159640 > What's the point of having 200IQ but never having children
Assuming that you're implying that the consumation of a human life is found, if not in the simple perpetuation of biology represented by the reproductive act, but in "contribution to society", and that having children serves as this contribution, this is an absurd proposition. Plenty of geniuses celebrated and unknown have made great "contributions to society" in the areas of science, math, invention, culture and technology far more important than the children they or anyone else did or did not spawn.
>>159638 I'm not sure I understand your reply. You said beta males should not reproduce because of their shitty DNA, but do you not see how succubi also have bad genes for things like stupidity, ugliness etc AND also likely have genes that in males produce "betaness" ? By your own logic, we should also not allow many succubi to reproduce, for the good of the many.
>>159644 that person wasn't me, but as long as one mate is always of superior dna it will eventually even out as a net gain of better quality dna, it's easier to just castrate the males since females have two X chromosomes and so are more likely to have at least one healthy X chromosome to give, even if their expressed X chromosome is shitty
>>159645 No what we should actually do is kill stupid females at birth and convert the best into lobotomized flesh tanks optimized for reproductive output. A succubus will be able to birth about 25 healthy young in her life, assuming breeding is initiated around 15. This large number will make up for the loss of baby output from killing the faulty females. We will minimize their food intake to a flavorless nutritional slop injected directly into their stomachs and recycle their shit into useful methane that will be used to power the cyclopean breeding facilities they are stored in. This will solve the dysgenics problem and the problem of females being a lifetime net economic negative / societal nuisance. With the advent of hyper-realistic, subservient sexbots as well as effective human gene-editing, dysgenic males will be placated and simultaneously kept out of the reproductive cycle which will take place wholly in the aforementioned large breeding complexes/sperm banks, administered by qualified eugenicists. The race of supermen created in the first couple of generations will be tasked with creation of artificial wombs superior to the succubi, after which succubi will be phased out and humanity will conquer the stars finally unfettered from the cycle of civilizational birth and death fueled by succubi's avarice.
This system is more economical, realistic, and humane than your proposal, because succubi are objectively worse than men and love being degraded.
>>159646 that sounds retarded and like too much work, it's easier to just snip shitty male's testicles when they show signs of not being quality material(shyness, physical weakness, etc), it would be like one short doctor's visit whereas your idea could only exist in some over-the-top scifi setting
>>159649 also I should probably add low iq to the list of signs of a low quality male, I don't want to seem like I am looking only for dumbass meatheads to breed
>>159663 Not really. IQ's in the 90's, 80's and even 70's are not actually as rare as many beleive, even in developed countries. People with such "IQ's" are pretty often able to lead fairly normal and competent lives, you wouldn't know them if they passed you on the street or stood next to you in a line.
>>159664 >IQ's in the 90's, 80's and even 70's are not actually as rare as many beleive, even in developed countries. Don't get me wrong, I believe it, I myself tested at 94 iq and in school I remember people that were clearly much dumber than me, so I could only assume they sat somewhere in the 80s, or worse. These people should be castrated because they are a drain on society and will just keep creating more useless drains if they are allowed to reproduce.
>>159669 One day you will realize that everything material and even immaterial is /pol/. This is a political, ethnic and spiritual war you find yourself in. The understanding of /pol/ is the understanding of life and the divine itself.
>>161756 I realize you are shitposting, but the idea that /pol/ is anywhere near actually spiritual in any sense is laughable. That would be the equalent of calling someone who knows 2+2=4 an actual bona fide mathematician.
>>156175 >and young people are fearful of marriage having seen so many fail They're right on that but I fail to see how that would increase the number of celibates as normans have more sex outside marriage than not. But anyway, we can't expect an honest explanation from the washington post.
IMO, the obnoxious r9k faggots have it right on this matter. Now that all moral sanctions on succubi have been lifted, they're free to pursue the most attractive men with no commitment and leave the others behind. Almost any single succubus can get a harem of orbiters of her own with relative ease these days and select the more attractive men, especially with the internet. And dating apps just make it easier for succubi to just go straight to the more attractive guys looking for easy sex.
>>159635 >>159645 If you are defining quality DNA based on "alpha"/"beta" then that is based on whatever succubi prefer, which is based on the potential for survival in a primal world we no longer exist in. Or if you are defining quality simply based on whatever gives higher odds of breeding, then a rat should be said to have higher DNA than a human.
We know it is only the cultures that put a check on hypergamy that even evolved the ability to build a civilization while those that let succubi call all the shots languish in cowshit and starvation for eternity. And despite this, somehow the logicians who want to "save civilization" believe it would be a good idea to do away with men who don't appeal to the natural impulses of succubi?… Instead of doing the exact opposite of that?
Objectively, the ideal genetic superman of the future should be: -slower to age, with longer lifespan (opposite of what succubi prefer) -lower sex drive so reproduction is driven by reason (opposite of what succubi prefer) -less impulsive and more careful in planning (opposite of what succubi prefer) -better able to appreciate mental pleasures over the physical (opposite of what succubi prefer) -odorless (opposite of what succubi prefer) -smaller so as to consume less space and resources (opposite of what succubi prefer)
Sadly, it seems just as succubi generally have a natural preference for dysgenics, men also have an illogical natural admiration for the same (not having such an admiration would be another good trait for the list).
we're headed for idiocracy. The Only reason we wont get what the film depicted is AI/China, otherwise that film would of been what 2050 would or probably looked like. Genius tier AI will yank the rug out from under the roast
>>162141 "Objectively, the ideal genetic superman of the future should be: -slower to age, with longer lifespan (opposite of what succubi prefer) -lower sex drive so reproduction is driven by reason (opposite of what succubi prefer) -less impulsive and more careful in planning (opposite of what succubi prefer) -better able to appreciate mental pleasures over the physical (opposite of what succubi prefer) -odorless (opposite of what succubi prefer) -smaller so as to consume less space and resources (opposite of what succubi prefer)"
>>158471 People aren't being more asocial the internet has made large gatherings easier than ever, the reason that even normans aren't having sex though is because the internet has allowed dating apps to blossom and for succubi to now be even more hypergamous and filter out all sub 9s at the push of a button
>>159635 Most men throughout history from all walks of life were prevented from breeding. IIRC there was a study that reported most succubi in history passed down their genes while most men had the privilege of not having that same opportunity; while the men who did have that opportunity where literally using succubi as cumdumpsters. It is almost kind of what most people say about hypergamy being a 'recent' phenomenon when in reality it has happened throughout all of human history and continues today.
There is a concerted push to increase the noise:signal ratio concerning this topic.
You must understand we are all being manipulated.
Feminism was pushed by the UN in 1975 in order to reduce birth rates and destroy the nuclear family.
There are many people who want you to think this is normal, or fair, or something else like that. They will insist succubi are protected by society because of "survival and wombs" but if that was really the case, post-menopausal succubi and infertile succubi would be treated worse than men since they can't help survival of the group.
Have you ever noticed how everything awful and bad toward you is called "natural" by those who want to manipulate and break you, but other "natural" behaviors are stymied?
Civilization required monogamy and sexual pairing. We are seeing the beginning of the creation of a global slave underclass. There are people, paid or otherwise, who want to increase the noise ratio so this is difficult to talk about, or want to 1984 "we were always at war with eastasia" -esque handwave it away.
>>158456 health, aesthetics, social rank… unless no one values those and when they actually marry some uglier rich fucks they will be regarded as thots, whores, gold diggers
and how many crabs are doing the innovations? most of them are code monkeys who don't know how to talk to girlss, with the advancement of automation and third worlders let's see how many can keep their jobs
and don't kid yourself as if men or wizards are some kind of higher beings, there are threads on wizchan about height, balding, face, alcohol, drugs, sex dolls
>>162141 >primal world we no longer live in Wrong. We still live in that world. When all of this bullshit tumbles down, if you ain't alpha you are dead.
the whole point of those articles is to make straight white males feel like they are a bunch of losers. crab is a tag they want you to place on yourself so they can then attack you with hammy arguments and moral panic.
Truth is sex has never been more accepted and marketed , wizards and males with low score on the sex market have always existed its just now they want to sell the idea those who don`t focus on sex or are monogamous, have moderate habit or are family oriented are retards that are counterevolutionary to their hipergamy agenda.
Maybe i should interview 20 college kids from the same campus, ask them about it and pretend their responses are a national epidemic, like the studies our friends from the washingtonpost and other such news outlets like to shill as totally real science you guys.
This is most likely all due to economic conditions. We're essentially in the same spot we were right before the great depression. The entire economy is about to crash because debt burdens are rising faster than incomes. They have just been printing money to try and deal with it, but that just exacerbates income inequality and makes the poor poorer because now their money is worth even less than it used to be. Printing money is essentially a secret tax the wealthy bankers impose on the people to keep their pyramid scheme from collapsing for just a bit longer, but it will collapse eventually no matter what they do. Combine that with the three pressures of automation, globalization, and immigration which have increased competition across all sectors while decreasing the quality of life for workers, and you have a perfect storm of people simply opting out of the economy and in life in general. When you don't have a job you don't have a social identity and succubi will not consider you as a viable mate unless you have some other source of income like being a drug dealer which functions the same as a job.
Remember when paypigs were a funny curiosity? I met some random thots that told me about their paypig escapades. The loser that made the "Welcome to the Game" indie title was one of their victims. Sent her 500 dollars for a few texts.
>>162627 The amount of men addicted to giving their money to succubi for meager sexual attention is depressing. Seeing a family member do that shit made my disinterest in sex even stronger.
>>162530 >The entire economy is about to crash because debt burdens are rising faster than incomes. True-ish, but what do you mean by "entire economy?" Because currently the American economy is doing alright, that's what the data says, but there are many warning flags worth looking into. I wouldn't gamble on a wiz having special economic insight over actual economists, especially one using vague terms like "entire economy" or is highly skeptical of debt burdens, possibly out of a naive assumption that austerity is an advanced IR plan (hint: it's not) >They have just been printing money to try and deal with it, but that just exacerbates income inequality and makes the poor poorer because now their money is worth even less than it used to be. that is what printing money does, but i don't think anyone has been doing that outside of nations already steeped in political turmoil, e.g. Venezuela, so largely irrelevant to the global economy >Printing money is essentially a secret tax the wealthy bankers impose on the people to keep their pyramid scheme from collapsing for just a bit longer, but it will collapse eventually no matter what they do. bankers don't print money lol, banks only create credit, and how much credit they are actually willing to lend is always predetermined in a central banking system >Combine that with the three pressures of automation, globalization, and immigration which have increased competition across all sectors while decreasing the quality of life for workers, and you have a perfect storm of people simply opting out of the economy and in life in general. none of those three are bad, they're far more beneficial in scope and the pains of progress are only amplified by the fearmongering wealthy that want to keep status quo. doesn't it make sense to blame a decrease in the quality of life for workers on corporations and employers? also, what do you mean by "increased competition?" did you mean "increased consolidation", which is extremely observable and actually leads to decreased competition? an increase in competition would be a good thing, not a bad one. >When you don't have a job you don't have a social identity and succubi will not consider you as a viable mate unless you have some other source of income like being a drug dealer which functions the same as a job. very norman philosophy, did you mean to post this on r9k instead of wizchan? i don't think crossposting is condoned here
>>162742 >I wouldn't gamble on a wiz having special economic insight over actual economists Meh, I would trust a random anon on an imageboard over the average economist. The entire profession is a form of pseudo-scientific ideological prostitution to the wealthy.
>>162742 > what do you mean by "entire economy?" The Global economy. It has become more ever-connected than ever and synchronized than ever before. The last recession was a global event for the most part and the next one will be too. If you look at the individual economic data coming out you will see Europe is in trouble, as is China, Japan, the UK, much of Africa, and the US, all happening at once. The US economy is not doing alright btw, the fact that the fed was not able to raise interest rates above 2.5% and has lowered them again during a so called expansion should tell you all you need to know. The fact that the money has been forced out of bonds and into equities just means everything is much more unstable now. Additionally manufacturing has been in decline and the bond yield curve has inverted and the fed is pumping hundreds of millions into the repo market on a permanent basis. The economy is literally on central bank life support right now and most people haven't realized it. If you ask economists or financiers or bondsman, they will tell you everything is about to crash. The IMF for example has said that 40% of US corporate debt will be insolvent if we enter a recession just half as bad as the last one. Freddie May and Fannie Mac are bigger than ever as a share of the US mortgage lending market (over 2/3rds) and they are currently operating at a leverage ratio of 500:1. This is crazy as the big banks are normally limited by law to a leverage ratio of no more than 10:1. They will not survive a recession. Things like employment rates are lagging indicators of recession but they're the ones most people pay attention to so everyone just assumes things are fine as long as people are employed but that's not true. The truth is America has never been this leveraged, the low interest rates have encouraged everyone to take on more and more debt, that has created a lot of credit which makes everyone feel rich for a time, but all that credit can simply vanish into thin air along with the debt if the debtor cannot repay what he owes. 97% of the money in circulation today is actually commercial bank created credit, base money (ie actual bills in circulation) only accounts for 3% of it. The economy is literally a house of cards balanced on a knife's edge. > but i don't think anyone has been doing that outside of nations already steeped in political turmoil, e.g. Venezuela, so largely irrelevant to the global economy This shows just how little you know. There are literally competitive currency devaluation wars going on between central banks right now. It's why Trump has said the dollar is "too strong". He's right that it does lead to a trade deficit as it becomes more attractive for the citizens of a country to purchase foreign goods when its currency is strong. BTW in case it wasn't obvious, when I say "printing money" I don't just mean literally printing it, I mean other ways of increasing the money supply as well. >bankers don't print money lol, banks only create credit, and how much credit they are actually willing to lend is always predetermined in a central banking system The central bank does. The one who "predetermines" that as you put it is the central bank. They can change the reserve requirements, print more reserves, or buy government securities, all of which increase the amount banks can lend. When a central bank buys a security btw it does so with money it prints out of thin air on a computer. >none of those three are bad, they're far more beneficial in scope and the pains of progress are only amplified by the fearmongering wealthy that want to keep status quo. They're not necessarily bad, but when applied to an economic system where everyone is supposed to work for a wage in order to survive they absolutely are because they make it harder to do that. If you are a paralegal for example who gets replaced by an AI machine, you have lost your job and now can't support yourself. The legal discovery has become better and cheaper because of the AI so in that sense it's "good" but because it has made someone's skills worthless and removed their ability to support themselves it is bad. Although it has other benefits, migration drives down wages and increases competition for jobs, and globalization allows those jobs to be shipped elsewhere. The expansion of jobs this time around has been mostly from shit like food service, the quality of jobs has been decreasing steadily which is why it's not surprising you still see many prime age working males simply opting out. >very norman philosophy, did you mean to post this on r9k instead of wizchan? i don't think crossposting is condoned here A social identity and a personal identity are two different things. One is determined by society, how society views you, and the other is determined by the individual. Nothing norman about acknowledging this exists and that one's mating prospects are dependent upon the social identity rather than the personal identity.
Read that book this guy wrote in the 90s about people who are ‘love-shy.’ That’s what they called it back then. It’s from having a strong headed mother. Feminism is to blame. Feminism is toxic shit to young developing boys’ brains.
Females form longer lasting relationships with each other than men do. Men tend to hang out in large groups whereas females tend to form more intimate one-on-one long term relationships. This is a robust finding, go google it.
Throughout history 2 females reproduced for every man. Around 12000-8000 years ago there was a huge spike in the female-male ratio up to 17. The only way this happens is prolonged reproductive inequality. Think a society where the emperor has 1000s of wives, chiefs of 10 men get 2-3 wives, and ordinary guys get nothing.
Inequality has always fluctuated. Paleolithic era inequality (2:1 female:male reproduction ratio) was heaven compared to what happened after agriculture was invented. Early 20th century America was probably as close to paleolithic level equality as we're going to get. The way society is currently headed it looks like we're going right back to agricultural era inequalities.
>>162807 >Putting any credence in what the IMF says.
The IMF has predicted a recession in the following year, where none has subsequently occurred, 24 times in the Spring WEO, and 23 times in the Fall WEO. The signal-to-noise ratio in IMF forecasts is poor, in other words!
The concept of marriage was likely invented as a solution to this inequality problem. The invention of birth control made succubi free to not give a shit about marriage anymore, meaning only the best men get to mate. The left likes to call the sexual social progress but it is literal social regression.
Not quite. Dysgenics is a thing. Retarded low IQ people will always have teenage pregnancies and lower the quality of the gene pool in the long run.
As long as the government pays welfare checks to single teenage mothers the genetic IQ will keep falling even while improvements in nutrition and educational environment mask the effects of dysgenics (Flynn effect).
The article does have the stereotypical Sexual Revolution slant on it, but the data is correct - a lot of men are having less sex due to how succubi are given higher preference for relationships along with the breakdown of the family itself. For sowing the wind, the normcunts will reap a megastorm.
>>163589 The hunter-gatherer era had higher sexual inequality/more polygny than the post-Neolithic era. Hunter-gatherers had extended family units, based on bands of men and their multiple wives. Neolithic era/agriculture led to the sedentary nuclear houseold replacing these nomadic polygynous bands as society's basic unit. Monogamy/nuclear family was just a more practical way to organize farming societies, but it suppressed mankind's natural tendency toward polygny/succubi's tendency toward hypergamy.
So, ironically modern society is moving back toward the more natural pre-modern/pre-agricultural patterns.
>>165732 If we've had monogamy for the past several thousand years, it's time to question how long a behavior needs to happen before it is considered "natural".
Oh god. Why are people talking about how to encourage/facilitate reproduction? I'm guessing some people here want to have kids without sex or who knows what?
>>165986 Well I'm already more than 18 years old, so yes? I'm not suicidal like most of the faggots here, and if I plan on living to 60 I'll need at least a generation and a half to keep things going.
>>165996 I meant from now. Why do you expect people will let you NEET for that long? If you're on disability, eventually that'll get cut. If you have some sort of stockpile of assets, then it makes more sense.
>>167295 I doubt they're virgins. They're probably married dudes. Virgins are too timid to do that shit unless they're going all out like that guy who shot up the disabled people in Osaka.
>>156173 The internet is a powerful tool to hone your wizard powers. Without it, I'd probably have continued my futile quest of becoming a normalfag, and maybe I would've even started a relationship with a morbidly obese single mother. "Eternal virginity is a valid life choice" never even crossed my mind before I started chatting with some like-minded people on the internet.
>>170665 Even a wizard can be targeted as a victim for wrongdoing by succubi. Never forget that. You should really hate crabs because they give the inferior gender too MUCH leeway, and ultimately want to work with them or come to a cohabiting compromise. t. accused
>>170665 > crabs who would setup their so called uprising and chase us for not agreeing with their policy dep in a nutshell, delete it before it's too late
>>163291 This. Also, abortion poisons the womb and it warps the values of the children who are raised by the very person who murdered their siblings and was never punished.
>>171215 If your are raised to love and respect the same person who murdered your siblings, then your entire value system will be inverted without you being aware of it. Even if you are taught traditional morality from the Bible, you will still make stupid and fucked up decisions.
>>171252 The death penalty should be required for all succubi who have abortions and for all medical and administrative personnel who participate in the abortion industry.
>>171216 Also, if you murder your child and then rationalize that murdering your child is justified you will not value the life of any children you happen to have in the future.
>>171262 Once the child begins generating brain waves, there's no difference between abortion and murder. Otherwise there'd be no logical reason not to allow infanticide. I assume you don't want to allow succubi to dash the brains of their infants?
>>171264 Abortion causes succubi to become more evil than they already are. And it causes suffering for children who are gestated in poisoned wombs and raised by murderous whores.
this is because a number of wizards are right-wing LARPers, polacks, MAGAs, etc. It gives them the sensation of power and being 'elite' (don't get me wrong, I believe in a lot of /pol/ related things but I know that in the end real polacks would want to gas wizards)
For anyone being raised in a broken family, by only mothers, by old parents, etc (as many wizards are, there have been multiple threads on this), you would expect more objective comprehension of the dismal fate of humanity.
>>171266 So would you support straight-out legalizing all murder? It would reduce life and therefore reduce suffering, right? If you actually are against murder you need to explain why violently taking the life of a thinking human being that happens to reside inside a succubus's womb isn't actually murder.
People have become more shallow and self centered through internet era. Before internet era succubi have to meet men face to face and there was effort.
Now , it is just few clicks and touch to get a man to your choosing. Modern succubi are not worth the effort.
What made you think so? I also have my /pol/ish side but… such things?
The fact of being a /pol/ and /wiz/ is, that even being antinatalist, you'd wish that breeders do not end screwing up much what they're still decided to do while breeding, so you support eugenics and similar things…
>>171476 But what is the benefit of breaking up nuclear families? The kids more likely to end up as criminal and eventually the whole society falls apart. You can't rule people who revolt against your system, even out of a criminal tendencies. You can't enslave criminals.
>>171479 Without a family to support you you're much more likely to be willing to let the government take the role as your parent – vote for increased welfare, increased taxation, bigger government, less freedom, etc.
>>171263 Brain waves are electrical activity in the brain, that control bodily functions. They have nothing to do with consciousness on their own. Vegetables have brain waves and no consciousness. It's not murder, never has been. If you're below 80 iq it's not murder either, it's a net positive to the world.
>>171517 Well okay, as long as you're consistent. Killing infants and toddlers isn't murder either, right? And where are you getting the 80 IQ number? Are all the Africans who have less than 80 IQ okay to hunt for sport? Do people who have higher IQ have more rights than those who have average IQ?
they are not enraged about the not having sex part they don't care if you get your dick wet they don't even care if you have a roof over your head and food in your belly
but when 30% of males give up on sex it means that the marketing industry cannot sell them designer clothes, brand perfumes, sports cars and gold jewellery anymore because they have nobody to impress
>>156173 I love to see this. It reassures me of the ways succubi say something and do something else. >>156179 lol how? >>156182 Automation. >>156188 Porn addiction applies to females as much as it does to males. There's a reason that japan is falling. >>158489 Oh, I used it unironically. Like crab bucket. My bad haha.
>>175261 Why does a cow live on the farm? Why do we feed it, house it, nurture it to full growth? So we can milk the cow and/or eventually eat it. The cow exists solely for our enjoyment of consumption and for profit.
Why does a human exist in the city? Similar reasons; so the human can be exploited and used for someone else's benefit or enjoyment. Every person is an expendable source of labor that exists so they can be used to increase profits for wealthy people who already have a lot of money and who run the system.
Then the government takes a cut of the action by extorting us in order to generate tax revenue. This is why most governments are hell bent on population growth and constant immigration. The system of financial parasitism needs to maximize how many people it leeches from so the 1% can live more extravagantly and luxuriously.
This is why our occupiers bother to educate us, provide us with healthcare and even defend us even though they view us as slaves. Because we slaves are a valuable asset just like a farmer protects a cow even though he intends on killing that cow eventually.
Most people are just like cattle if you think about it.
>>162530 this and rampant political correctness. I can't wait till russia, china, and saudi arabia are the remaining political states left standing and corporations are forced to bow to them while libs have to eat crow.
>>162530 The best way to counter inflation is to unironically go into debt. Borrow money to buy assets. Your debt becomes less over time due to the value of the dollar decreasing over time.
Normalfags like to make fun of rich people who are in debt, but being in debt while you are still earning income is the smart thing to do.
>>175267 >The best way to counter inflation is to unironically go into debt. Borrow money to buy assets. Your debt becomes less over time due to the value of the dollar decreasing over time. Who offers loans without interest though?
Interest isn't something magical, it is just a way to help make sure people actually pay off their loans, and to counter inflation for the lender. Just intend to pay off your loan on regular intervals and treat the original loan + interest as the total value. Pay off early whenever you can to make sure the lender gets fucked over by inflation.
>>175284 >>175267 Dumb, risky, and foolish. Imagine not having experience and unironically doing this. You deserve to get scammed and watch your debt compound until it's not going to paid off in your lifetime. Get a skill and make some real value. Usury is a sin for a reason.
>>175286 "Get a skill" and "create value" is vague non-advice peddled by self-improvement gurus simply because it can mean whatever they want it to mean. Have a skill but can't make money? Then it's not a "real skill" or you're not producing "real value."
It's incredibly convenient for their business of selling fake life advice to gullible and dejected young men.
>>175291 This. Even with capital it won't matter, because huge corporations pretty much have everything covered so you are left with scraps no matter how good you are. They have entire teams arranged to further their profits and find and implement ideas, they have wagies just for that.Those wagies only see a tiny portion of the profit they caused, because they simply don't have the capital to build they own company and implement it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a socialist, but without equality of opportunity and a diligent goverment cracking down on monopolies, the individual is completely fucked because he is up against something he cannot compete.
>>175342 wealthy and attractive young men have the monopoly on the dating scene, this is such an obvious truism that i don't think is even worth dwelling in it, i don't understand crabs treating it as some sort of redpill revelation when any random kid knows this and is not hidden at all.
>>175267 buy property, then property looses 80% its value after an assets bubble burst, the faggots who caused it get bailed out and the middle class wageslaves lost their savings, tale as old as time.
>>175344 Property will always have value. It could be overvalued but it will never be worthless. If you just had some money in your bank account it will slowly become lose worth due to inflation. Aside from extreme scenarios, the dollar value of your property will always go up due to inflation.
>>175349 sure, tell that to the japanese housing bubble or the mid 2000s spanish one. People overnight loss thousands of dollars of their savings that they had invested in assets or stock that would have taken decades to depreciate otherwise.Japanese still called the burst years the lost decade for a reason.
Such a bluepilled comment. The military is literally the embodiment of male disposability in service of gynocentric systems and succubi in general. Governments are the same but are increasingly staffed by mostly succubi, and increasingly political representatives are succubi too - so you have mostly succubi voting for succubi, who administer a system that is run and staffed by succubi, for succubi primarily. The average, which is consistent in most departments and in most anglo\western nations, is that 65% of public service (government) employees are female. In some sectors like child protection the rate can get as high as 90% female, there are no official sectors where men are the majority. That 65% rate is climbing, btw.
Men can't and don't resist this, in part because people like you are so bluepilled that there's not even an awareness of these types of facts. The average male who doesn't work in government can't even believe the 65% number I've quoted, because consciousness of these issues is systematically repressed within society and within individual males.
>>175369 It doesn't help that the media is constantly saying the system is misogynist and that old white men run everything. In reality, priviledged white succubi have the most power in middle administrative positions in both the public and private sectors, and old jewish men have power at the top of international and private sectors. White men are randomly spread with a higher percentage in applied high paying wagie positions. Basically men do all the intellectual and physical work, succubi administrate, and jewish men run the show.
>>175369 No, you've missed my point. Men have always been the ones who form large organizations, whether it be corporations, military, tribal council, gamer clan, whatever, which has the effect of allowing men to compete amongst themselves in a productive manner for high status within the group. Achieving high status in the group is incentivized because it's obviously attractive to f_e_m_a_l_e_s. Men grow the economy while chasing rank in these large scale collaborative hierarchical social structures, and this is the way it's always worked, at least until succubi started entering the work force en masse in 20th c. It doesn't matter if some of these organizations come with a high risk of costing you your life - the effect is still the same, the opportunity to win big in collaboration, as well as competition with many other males of the society.
succubi are the ones who eye each other with trade envy and have a total crab mentality, as they only really excel in the business of sex and reproduction, and therefore can never relax around one another, always in competition.
I advise you to read Roy Baumeister before accusing me of being "bluepilled". Get a new vocabulary in the meantime as well.
>>165980 Crab containment thread, mods should be sifting through it to ban the retards, as well as any other roleplaying "traditionalist" chimp who attaches positive connotations to sex or reproduction.
>>165980 >>175403 >If you attach positive connotations to norps doing X you must want to do X >All things with positive connotations are things you want to do yourself
>>175403 You're illiterate. Please state where I mentioned specifically that any individual wants to have sex or reproduce. A thread-wide "case" is being (poorly) attempted to justify some obsessive cottagecore reproductive strategy that idolises shitting out children.
>>175369 It annoys me succubi can become officers and order around men who can be drafted, while succubi cannot be drafted in general. Fortunately modern corporations and China will never permit another world war.
>>175443 > men who can be drafted, while succubi cannot be drafted in general. I don’t get why this isn’t a bigger talking point in general. I guess cause we all just know another war requiring drafting is either never gonna happen or will just end up being a nuke fest before boots touch the ground.
>>175443 >>175445 succubi not being compelled to fight and die for a country was actually the basis for many of the supposed "privileges" for men. For example, succubi would be able to vote to start a war without having to worry about her own safety. There's more to it than that of course, some of it obsolete such as if succubi aren't able/expected to work then they can vote to increase income tax without personally harming themselves. You can read this yourself in essays against succubi's suffrage from the 1800s. They didn't particularly believe succubi should have fewer rights or that they were "inferior" per se, but that they had different roles. Putting aside the fact that succubi really are physically weaker, they need to be kept out of harms way because the fact is that the average succubus is more biologically valuable than the average man. The population and growth rate is fine if 25% of your men die in a war, it's completely fucked if 25% of your succubi die in a war. One man may be able to have 300 children a year while one succubus can only have 1.25 every year on average. If you need a large population of wagies to keep the NEET economy going, you need lots of succubi. It's still theoretically possible to keep up the same growth we have now with 1 man to about 20 succubi. The argument then is that succubi shouldn't fight in wars because they are far more valuable creating a future generation of soldiers/wagies/scientists.
failed normalfags love infographics like this because they get some dopamine hits on how they're 'sticking it to the roasties' and they're part of a 'movement'. truth is, most people will still go after and get succubi (this graph is only for one year without sex anyway and hasn't increased THAT much). Also people are getting married later in life and that has a factor in it. Failed normies gleefully looking at articles like this won't change the fact they're still the odd ones out
>>175904 I don't think this will ever happen on a meaningful scale. Human males are hard wired by evolution to care more about the sounds a female makes when she is in distress, imagine the morale knowing when shit hits the fan your squad will instinctively drop everything for the member who can barely lift her backpack to begin with. No way.
“succubi select men. That makes them nature, because nature is what selects. And you can say "Well it's only symbolic that succubi are nature", it's like no, it's not just symbolic. The succubus is the gatekeeper to reproductive success. And you can't get more like nature than that, in fact it's the very definition of nature.”
>>175918 That's modern day america eccentric, in many parts of the world succubi don't have much of a choice, which makes men "nature". Unless you count suicide, but that can be applied to anything including the whining wageslaves on this site
>>175918 If gangster government didn't support these used-up whores with MY money, they and their spawn with would starve to death in the gutter and everything would be fine.
>>175930 the type of cute suburban white succubi that crabs want, make more $$$ than the crabs complaining about them. When crabs say that welfare lets Uncle Sam be the betabux the type of white trailer trash and black hoodrate succubi on welfare aren't the type crabs would want anyway. If anything the tax money of cute suburban succubi goes to pay crab neets
>>175934 lol no. >If anything the tax money of cute suburban succubi goes to pay crab neets in america and lots of other countries its impossible for white men to get any neetbux. >the type of cute suburban white succubi that crabs want, make more $$$ than the crabs complaining about them the cute suburban white succubi that crabs want work as baristas and majored in art history on government money.
>>175938 this shows an increase in white males getting welfare and the cut-off point is 2009 just before it all got 10 times worse im pretty sure it doubled by now
>>175942 an increase of white males on welfare by literally 1% in 30 years lmao dont be pedantic. >>175941 it does though? a black guy with no extenuating circumstances has a lot easier time getting on gibs. there is more institutions and outreach programs in historically black areas, they can cite discrimination or inability to escape poverty or being raised in the ghetto as reasons why they need it, and thats just welfare that doesnt include other forms of gibsmedats. like whores for example get benefits if theyre single moms. injuns are actually on government assistance more than blacks because there is so much outreach to reservations because the government has to take responsibility for genociding them. theres a reason why the numbers are the way they are.
>>176209 Jordan Peterson is a canadian clinical psychologist and a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, while you are just some retard with no real arguments.
>>175918 actually what's natural is powerful men doing whatever they want with weak people like succubi. What we have in todays world is completely against what happens in nature.
>>175930 True, euthanasia and eugenics should be commonplace for promiscuous females to prevent undesirables from hurting society
>>175934 >If anything the tax money of cute suburban succubi goes to pay neets. Exceptionally based. Keep those cheques coming.
>>176227 Wholly different anon here. Peterson is worth reading, and he stumbles upon some profound ideas, but he's a normie at the end of the day. Read 12 Rules and watch his lectures but don't take him too seriously.
>>176652 Seems like his advice is OK for transient problems and issues that are stumbling blocks rather than anything serious. When he (Peterson) himself had a real crisis he went on benzos and almost lost it which says a lot. Imagine if his wife died, who knows if he would've ended up gone. You don't have to be exemplary in your own personal life to give advice on things, but like I said I'm not sure his instructions are applicable for serious issues and crisis's. Stopping caring is arguably better if you're old and way behind. His advice is usually for younger people and he has normie views like you should have children or you won't have much to do past 40 esp if you're a succubus etc.
>>178432 Yeah. It's funny how even the most hardened of "I can handle the pressure in life, why can't you?" end up when they get a cancer scare, or something. Right on with the benzos and anti-depressants, having never thought about losing everything when they were healthy and full of willpower.
I think he's likeable enough personality-wise, though. High empathy. I wouldn't mind having a beer with him.
>>178432 I don't think JP has good answers, but I can see why hes so popular in these spheres, as his advice is crafted directly at crabs, neets, hikkis, wizards.
I feel like we as wizards would be living our neet volcel life under any society. But since under current conditions many young males are involuntarily forced to live like us, we get lumped in with them. And so the JP types aim their message directly at us.
>>178459 The best wizards have excellent social emotional cognition and are capable of enjoying occasional social outings with other men, in the context of traditional male camaraderie it's mutually exclusive to swearing off female contact.
But it's good to see you're so above socializing with others that you responded to my post.
>>176716 I don't think that's the entirety of the explanation.
I've noticed that the posts:threads (to be clear, a 'thread' is a completely new topic posted in a board, and a 'post' is any reply made) is incredibly high in wizardchan, especially compared to other chans, forums, etc.. People often note/complain that "wizardchan is a slow board" and use this to explain why a thread is still up sometimes even YEARS later, but I don't think that's the explanation. I think the explanation is this very high posts:threads ratio. Posters are much more likely to find an existing thread and post to it as opposed to making their own.
I think the reason that this ratio is so high is that, for whatever reason, the posters here are much more likely to go into depth instead of into breadth. To be slightly egotistical, maybe wizards are 'deeper' thinkers (pic unrelated)? I think this is born out as well because wizardchan has one of the highest word count:post ratios I've ever seen for a chan as well. And out of all the boards I've been on, I think I really like wizardchan solely because of this phenomenon.
I wanted to ask why do you think this happens? I suppose one reason other than the personality complexes of the posters is because of a lot of long-standing general threads that most people end up posting to that end up absorbing the notion of "keep replying to an existing thread as much as possible" culture. I mean, case in point, this is probably a good enough discussion to place into a different thread entirely, but here I am writing practically an entire essay as a single post buried inside of this thread. Another reason might be that a newbie ends up getting so many of their threads deleted or moved by mods that they end up having a sort of learned helplessness to making new threads.
>>162210 Makes me wonder why there's still so many ugly, low status males around when only top 10% alpha men bred. Does that mean female genes are trash?
>>175934 She makes only more because corporations need to fill their quotas. There's also pay-gap investigations. Therefore HR succubi who have 0 skills get paid as much as the productive workers and management of the company.
>>178507 Hierarchy is necessary because intelligence is an unequally distributed biological trait. Retards (like yourself, no offense lad) will make mistakes which make the ponzi scheme of civilization (necessary to preserve solely for sunk costs - you wouldn't get rid of your precious anime, would you?) perilous to maintain - you probably almost cut me off in traffic today, nevermind the awful effect of widespread democracy/extending the franchise.
Not everyone is equal. Some people need to be in the back of the line in every social organization.
>>178828 So basically: >Succ got triggered by 4kids >Went on 4kanker to try and trigger them back >trying to piss in an ocean of piss >still lives rent free in her head years later while practically nobody even remembers her
>>178798 As if intelligence is or ever has been the primarily determining factor in social hierarchies.
If you think hierarchy is good thats fine. But even Jordan Peterson wouldn't claim that the top dogs are selected based on intelligence of all traits. It can help in some ways and hurt in others. Retard and nerd are both insults, doesn't help to be too far in either direction
I don't like this. Being a wizard makes me feel special, our purity is what makes us superior to the normalcattle scum. If being a wizard becomes mainstream I might just start paying hookers just to be a contrarian.
>>180569 >Being a wizard makes me feel special, our purity is what makes us superior to the normalcattle scum. We are not special nor superior I would like to know what metricy ou are using to gauge superiority.
>>180613 What's there to understand? Stop being smug like you don't get it. Most wizards are outcasts, not of their own volition, who develop various coping mechanisms to deal with their station in life, like your "hurr im special and pure" ego faggotry to try to feel superior to normalfags.
Wizards are just 30+ year old male virgins, that's it, it doesn't mean crab, or volcel, that in itself is laughable, as if you're voluntarily making a choice to wave away the swathes of succ who want to get with you, you can try to act like you're ascended, but most wizards never had access to these things in the first place, so disregarding them means fuck all and is just a natural "sour grapes" esque function of the isolated and alienated brain. Most wizards did not actively choose this lifestyle, they fell into it because it suited their temperament, telling wizards to "just stop being one brah" is the highest caliber of normalfag tier platitudes and you should be embarrassed for posting such trash.
>>180674 My point is that you can change your life. I’m not saying to go and find a gf, but if you hate being a wizard you 100% can go out and make a friend or something.
the ones who affect to take the wizard meme the most seriously are the least likely to fit the stereotype in real life. Role players and trolls in short.