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How do you stop socializing? To me it has been nothing but misery but I can't change my human nature. Is there any way to stop interacting with people online and embrace full isolation without much pain?
>>176526
I've really been wanting to do the same thing. I wish I could just curb my retarded human nature and stop caring about other people entirely, and then do my own thing.
It hurts when I try to socialize, it hurts when I try to be alone, so what the fuck do I do?
I've really been wanting to do the same thing. I wish I could just curb my retarded human nature and stop caring about other people entirely, and then do my own thing.
It hurts when I try to socialize, it hurts when I try to be alone, so what the fuck do I do?
I noticed my urge to use IBs is particularly high when I'm bored. The trick seems to have a hobby where you can put your mind to it.
If you have the means or ability to drop out of society you do that and just quit talking to anyone I personally only started talking to people after having found I am no longer able to entertain myself by reading and various other activities.
You won't change your human nature if you are not schizoid like so sorry to tell you that OP
You won't change your human nature if you are not schizoid like so sorry to tell you that OP
Wizlife is not for you.
Continue your search for the right people, be it a road of suffering.
Continue your search for the right people, be it a road of suffering.
>>176530
I agree with this: OP needs people he will feel lonely unlike many of us wizards who are fine in solitude and maybe come here to shitpost a little when we have nothing better to do or share about an interest.
OP needs to try find some friend be it irl or online because he will be going through hell by being alone. Social types just cannot stand solitude they never get used to it they just become more and more broken until they kill themelves.
I agree with this: OP needs people he will feel lonely unlike many of us wizards who are fine in solitude and maybe come here to shitpost a little when we have nothing better to do or share about an interest.
OP needs to try find some friend be it irl or online because he will be going through hell by being alone. Social types just cannot stand solitude they never get used to it they just become more and more broken until they kill themelves.
Having the urge to socialize kinda sounds like normie shit, so idk what to tell you. Our entire culture has become commodified that I have no desire to form genuine relationships with anyone.
If you feel the need the socialize than this life is not for you. You can't force yourself to be this way. Fix your life and find some friends.
>>176532
Not normie but not true wizardly and it is not something people can control a lot of wizards wish they could enjoy others company in the sense that wizards were as common as normies so they could interact with them.
Op sounds better suited to r9gay.
Not normie but not true wizardly and it is not something people can control a lot of wizards wish they could enjoy others company in the sense that wizards were as common as normies so they could interact with them.
Op sounds better suited to r9gay.
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This is really hard for me, I have not had contact with anyone for three years. The only thing that allows me to exist are really good relationships at work, but they never go out into the private sphere, I come home and close myself in my world with no contacts.
You will never come to terms with it, but also you cannot push yourself all the way down, I did not want to live like this, but I know that it can only get worse, not better because I will not catch up with anyone in experiences
You will never come to terms with it, but also you cannot push yourself all the way down, I did not want to live like this, but I know that it can only get worse, not better because I will not catch up with anyone in experiences
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>>176562
OP here, I have no family, friends or coworkers because I don't work. I just vegetate and escape reality in every way. My urge to socialize comes from the point where my existential dread gets so bad I need something to change, it is this giant black hole hovering above my head sucking me into it that just makes me want to kill myself or try to introduce changes. I can't socialize at all, I feel zero empathy and I don't care for other human beings. I used to have hobby related acquantiences online but I dropped them like they never existed and never looked back. But what else is there? I really just stare and feel the void taking in more space.
OP here, I have no family, friends or coworkers because I don't work. I just vegetate and escape reality in every way. My urge to socialize comes from the point where my existential dread gets so bad I need something to change, it is this giant black hole hovering above my head sucking me into it that just makes me want to kill myself or try to introduce changes. I can't socialize at all, I feel zero empathy and I don't care for other human beings. I used to have hobby related acquantiences online but I dropped them like they never existed and never looked back. But what else is there? I really just stare and feel the void taking in more space.
>>176564
>My urge to socialize comes from the point where my existential dread gets so bad I need something to change
>I feel zero empathy and I don't care for other human beings
Figure out a different type of change. And next time post the full context in the OP
>My urge to socialize comes from the point where my existential dread gets so bad I need something to change
>I feel zero empathy and I don't care for other human beings
Figure out a different type of change. And next time post the full context in the OP
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>>176566
I came to the point where I see the types of mindsets that exist within the social sphere, how almost everything that is being said is a layer of covert narcissism to serve one's goals. I have been intoxicated by this idea for a long time within my own headspace boundaries, but I started to get ahead of it. I have this inner peace within myself and the life in soltitude I have chosen, but whenever I reach out to other people online I get a glimpse of this social engineering or social conditioning that is happening and it turns me away from people. I can't take anybody serious whose values are out of their control and try to impose them on me because they think it matters, it is all controlled by the outside not their inside. I'm sick of it and the void keeps getting closer. I wish people would stop being fags and learned the difference between inside and outside.
I came to the point where I see the types of mindsets that exist within the social sphere, how almost everything that is being said is a layer of covert narcissism to serve one's goals. I have been intoxicated by this idea for a long time within my own headspace boundaries, but I started to get ahead of it. I have this inner peace within myself and the life in soltitude I have chosen, but whenever I reach out to other people online I get a glimpse of this social engineering or social conditioning that is happening and it turns me away from people. I can't take anybody serious whose values are out of their control and try to impose them on me because they think it matters, it is all controlled by the outside not their inside. I'm sick of it and the void keeps getting closer. I wish people would stop being fags and learned the difference between inside and outside.
>>176526
Why would you do that?
Full isolation is not good, you can always play an MMORPG and "meet" some people there. MMORPGs have always been a good way for me to feel a bit of human connection without actually having to socialize.
Why would you do that?
Full isolation is not good, you can always play an MMORPG and "meet" some people there. MMORPGs have always been a good way for me to feel a bit of human connection without actually having to socialize.
>>176595
>I came to the point where I see the types of mindsets that exist within the social sphere, how almost everything that is being said is a layer of covert narcissism to serve one's goals.
Very much feel the same I second this and I wonder if someone can actually break away from this as it is very damaging and you are not wrong one needs only watch people to see how fake they are and self serving but are we not just the same?
We can still make that rare friend online who sees the world in a similar way or just finds us interesting.
I said rare because it is awfully rare. Nice image
>I came to the point where I see the types of mindsets that exist within the social sphere, how almost everything that is being said is a layer of covert narcissism to serve one's goals.
Very much feel the same I second this and I wonder if someone can actually break away from this as it is very damaging and you are not wrong one needs only watch people to see how fake they are and self serving but are we not just the same?
We can still make that rare friend online who sees the world in a similar way or just finds us interesting.
I said rare because it is awfully rare. Nice image
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>>176595
>>176600
When I come back to this post I realize how I'm a narcissist with no empathy or real interest in social connections. Shit falls into place and I need my narcissistic supply, if I don't get my supply my "urge" to socialize is high. I'm not sure how to feel about this, but this is literally like autism.
>>176600
When I come back to this post I realize how I'm a narcissist with no empathy or real interest in social connections. Shit falls into place and I need my narcissistic supply, if I don't get my supply my "urge" to socialize is high. I'm not sure how to feel about this, but this is literally like autism.
>>176527
>>>176526 (OP)
>I've really been wanting to do the same thing. I wish I could just curb my retarded human nature and stop caring about other people entirely, and then do my own thing.
It'll always be there unless you're a retard. Only retards don't care about their life and suicidal people too. Which one are you planning to be?
>It hurts when I try to socialize, it hurts when I try to be alone, so what the fuck do I do?
Do drugs all the time, it accelerates time and numbs the existential problems.
>>>176526 (OP)
>I've really been wanting to do the same thing. I wish I could just curb my retarded human nature and stop caring about other people entirely, and then do my own thing.
It'll always be there unless you're a retard. Only retards don't care about their life and suicidal people too. Which one are you planning to be?
>It hurts when I try to socialize, it hurts when I try to be alone, so what the fuck do I do?
Do drugs all the time, it accelerates time and numbs the existential problems.
>>176863
No wizard would be friends with someone who has friends. You will always be the normalfag.
No wizard would be friends with someone who has friends. You will always be the normalfag.
>>176864
Yes, you can be a hermit virgin over 30 and have some normalfag friends. Stop adding unrelated things about your own circumstance to the definition of what a wizard is.
Yes, you can be a hermit virgin over 30 and have some normalfag friends. Stop adding unrelated things about your own circumstance to the definition of what a wizard is.
>>176865
don't pay attention to him, he is probably one of those fatalist crab that nobody likes because he is a crabs in a bucket so he wants everyone on wizchan to be as miserable as him
don't pay attention to him, he is probably one of those fatalist crab that nobody likes because he is a crabs in a bucket so he wants everyone on wizchan to be as miserable as him
>>176866
Fucking depcrabs. Won't they ever learn that REAL wizards are surrounded by friends, a loving family and make upwwards of 150k a year on top of being in peak physical condition?
Fucking depcrabs. Won't they ever learn that REAL wizards are surrounded by friends, a loving family and make upwwards of 150k a year on top of being in peak physical condition?
>>176867
As far as I know, being successful isn't antithetical to the wizard regime. The obligation is celibacy, am I mistaken? Crabs who want everyone to be a loser are odd to me. I don't wish that my fellow wizards have a shitty life, I want them to be happy and competent people who TM "REJECT FEMALES"
As far as I know, being successful isn't antithetical to the wizard regime. The obligation is celibacy, am I mistaken? Crabs who want everyone to be a loser are odd to me. I don't wish that my fellow wizards have a shitty life, I want them to be happy and competent people who TM "REJECT FEMALES"
>>176865
Normalfag confirmation bias. Thanks for outing yourself and breaking rule 2 and 3.
Normalfag confirmation bias. Thanks for outing yourself and breaking rule 2 and 3.
>>176870
we should just ban crabs from the site, they try to let everyone down and gatekeep if someone is not a complete failure in everything or obssesed with succubi like them. They don't even like their lives and to them this site probably what they call a "cope".
we should just ban crabs from the site, they try to let everyone down and gatekeep if someone is not a complete failure in everything or obssesed with succubi like them. They don't even like their lives and to them this site probably what they call a "cope".
>>176866
what are you doing in wizchan if you are not miserable? fuck off back to reddit normalslime
what are you doing in wizchan if you are not miserable? fuck off back to reddit normalslime
>>176871
Lol. I didn't say anything about my own life or desires. I wouldn't post about any social experiences I might have here because I respect the rules.
>>176873
This isn't your personal misery circlejerk, it's a forum for male virgins. Being a virgin doesn't automatically imply being miserable. Stop being so obsessed with succubi and projecting it on others.
Lol. I didn't say anything about my own life or desires. I wouldn't post about any social experiences I might have here because I respect the rules.
>>176873
This isn't your personal misery circlejerk, it's a forum for male virgins. Being a virgin doesn't automatically imply being miserable. Stop being so obsessed with succubi and projecting it on others.
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>>176875
No. I'm a virgin myself, not one of those insidious evil normalfags who spend their free time pretending to be wizards online. I can't stand the crabs who waste this website more than most normalfags I've met.
No. I'm a virgin myself, not one of those insidious evil normalfags who spend their free time pretending to be wizards online. I can't stand the crabs who waste this website more than most normalfags I've met.
>>176877
>hurr durrrrrrrrr wizards have to be miserable people with prejudice and hatred against all normalfags
I'm not saying people should be allowed to post about it here, but wizards are allowed to have friends, and even go to normalfag parties or do whatever they want, as long as they're adult male virgins.
>hurr durrrrrrrrr wizards have to be miserable people with prejudice and hatred against all normalfags
I'm not saying people should be allowed to post about it here, but wizards are allowed to have friends, and even go to normalfag parties or do whatever they want, as long as they're adult male virgins.
>>176878
Damn straight. In fact, we should consider banning wizards who don't do any of those things, since they are much more likely to crab out.
Damn straight. In fact, we should consider banning wizards who don't do any of those things, since they are much more likely to crab out.
>>176879
Why are you being a facetious dickhead? "Wow other wizards can be functional people and that makes me angry." So what dude? Virginity is the only obligation. Take your false rhetoric and stop being a crab.
Why are you being a facetious dickhead? "Wow other wizards can be functional people and that makes me angry." So what dude? Virginity is the only obligation. Take your false rhetoric and stop being a crab.
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>>176881
snibbety snabby I hate myself and want to die
snibbety snabby I hate myself and want to die
>>176888
it's irrelevant to whether you're a wizard unless you mean doing sexual things with people
it's irrelevant to whether you're a wizard unless you mean doing sexual things with people
>>176891
It isn't that they aren't allowed.
It is that they aren't required to be losers.
You can and probably should live a good, happy, and productive life even as a wizard.
Just because you don't fuck doesn't mean other aspects of your life have to be shit or that you have to feel bad.
It isn't that they aren't allowed.
It is that they aren't required to be losers.
You can and probably should live a good, happy, and productive life even as a wizard.
Just because you don't fuck doesn't mean other aspects of your life have to be shit or that you have to feel bad.
>>176892
Then why post here? Why not post on literally any other website for normal well-adjusted people like reddit or facebook?
Then why post here? Why not post on literally any other website for normal well-adjusted people like reddit or facebook?
>>176892
crabs and volcels don't actually exist anymore, they are just blanket political terms
the people who are against crabs or call themselves volcels aren't wizards anymore but either twitter SJW trannies or MRA mgtow born again virgins both of which have no place on wizchan
wizard is a perfect blend of crab and volcel while being neither at the same time
crabs and volcels don't actually exist anymore, they are just blanket political terms
the people who are against crabs or call themselves volcels aren't wizards anymore but either twitter SJW trannies or MRA mgtow born again virgins both of which have no place on wizchan
wizard is a perfect blend of crab and volcel while being neither at the same time
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where da femoids @
>>176897
>wizard is a perfect blend of crab and volcel while being neither at the same time
sorry but that's just your headcanon
you can make your own website if that bothers you
>wizard is a perfect blend of crab and volcel while being neither at the same time
sorry but that's just your headcanon
you can make your own website if that bothers you
>>176907
Nothing in the rules suggests that you need to be anything more or less than an adult male virgin to post here. Here's a quote directly from the rules page:
social activity: An activity that at its core involves socializing, like going to a bar, party or club. This includes things done together with friends, like visiting a cinema. This, however, does not include simply having friends, or just making contact with another person in real life (e.g. a cashier or therapist).
>This, however, does not include simply having friends
Nothing in the rules suggests that you need to be anything more or less than an adult male virgin to post here. Here's a quote directly from the rules page:
social activity: An activity that at its core involves socializing, like going to a bar, party or club. This includes things done together with friends, like visiting a cinema. This, however, does not include simply having friends, or just making contact with another person in real life (e.g. a cashier or therapist).
>This, however, does not include simply having friends
>>176909
Stop arguing with a smelly, unloved and unwanted retard. He's in every thread crying that some people have friends and a job here.
Stop arguing with a smelly, unloved and unwanted retard. He's in every thread crying that some people have friends and a job here.
>>176909
the rules only state you are allowed to have friends, but not talk about them
bragging that you have friends is normalfag behavior
>Nothing in the rules suggests that you need to be anything more or less than an adult male virgin to post here.
that's because that's a clear misinterpretation of the rules, look at all the other rules as a whole and you will see there is a clear outline of what type of person can post here
if virginity is all you got to show for your wizardry then you do not belong here
the rules only state you are allowed to have friends, but not talk about them
bragging that you have friends is normalfag behavior
>Nothing in the rules suggests that you need to be anything more or less than an adult male virgin to post here.
that's because that's a clear misinterpretation of the rules, look at all the other rules as a whole and you will see there is a clear outline of what type of person can post here
if virginity is all you got to show for your wizardry then you do not belong here
>>176910
I hate these friendless, smelly and unlovable retards. No wonder they've been virgins for so long. Why do these stupid virgins always have to ruin everything by being losers? They should just fuck off and let us enjoy our wonderful lives in peace.
I hate these friendless, smelly and unlovable retards. No wonder they've been virgins for so long. Why do these stupid virgins always have to ruin everything by being losers? They should just fuck off and let us enjoy our wonderful lives in peace.
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>>176526
What the fuck happened to my beautiful thread?
I realized I'm a covert narcissist and have zero empathy. On top of that I'm 100% isolated, I don't give a fuck about your labels, this is just me.
What the fuck happened to my beautiful thread?
I realized I'm a covert narcissist and have zero empathy. On top of that I'm 100% isolated, I don't give a fuck about your labels, this is just me.
Wizards are by definition involuntary celibate. They always have been. Their low status in society ensured they would never reproduce, let alone even touch a succubus. The wizard meme was about being a lonely virgin who lived an unconventional lifestyle, eg in their mom's basement. This is why it's against the rules to make fun of NEETs here or discuss relationships. The wizard lifestyle was never about being a successful male who fits in with society and is normal in every facet of life except for being a virgin. If any of you have proof otherwise, I'd love to read it.
>>176926
Spirit of the rules vs letter of the rules debate again. It is lost on the normalshits who claim that you could be in theory a successful professional model with a bustling social life and still belong here. Heck why not be married while you're at it. It's only for fiscal reasons, I swear! No sex involved, and the children I sired? Artificial insemination of course. :^)
Spirit of the rules vs letter of the rules debate again. It is lost on the normalshits who claim that you could be in theory a successful professional model with a bustling social life and still belong here. Heck why not be married while you're at it. It's only for fiscal reasons, I swear! No sex involved, and the children I sired? Artificial insemination of course. :^)
>>176927
Well then it's up to us wizards to kick the normalniggers out and make them feel unwelcome. Take back this site for ourselves.
Well then it's up to us wizards to kick the normalniggers out and make them feel unwelcome. Take back this site for ourselves.
>>176929
I would rather have normalniggers than furries posting gay shit in the fap thread when browsing /all/
I would rather have normalniggers than furries posting gay shit in the fap thread when browsing /all/
>>176896
Because sex havers are obsessed with talking about relationshits, sex, dating, and other bullshit and succubi are fucking cancer to online community they get a foot hold in.
I can talk about my hobbies or have discusions about whatever without it turning into a attention vortex about/around/or for succubi.
This is a male only space where succubi can't suck attention away from whatever the topic of discussion is to themselves and thirsty guys have to chill the fuck out or get banned.
Why do you post here if you hate being a wizard?
Because sex havers are obsessed with talking about relationshits, sex, dating, and other bullshit and succubi are fucking cancer to online community they get a foot hold in.
I can talk about my hobbies or have discusions about whatever without it turning into a attention vortex about/around/or for succubi.
This is a male only space where succubi can't suck attention away from whatever the topic of discussion is to themselves and thirsty guys have to chill the fuck out or get banned.
Why do you post here if you hate being a wizard?
>>176897
>words have no meaning except whatever one I give them in the moment that aid in my argument
Stop it
>words have no meaning except whatever one I give them in the moment that aid in my argument
Stop it
>>176933
>I can talk about my hobbies or have discusions about whatever without it turning into a attention vortex about/around/or for succubi.
That's really the only redeeming quality of this site tbh.
>I can talk about my hobbies or have discusions about whatever without it turning into a attention vortex about/around/or for succubi.
That's really the only redeeming quality of this site tbh.
>>176913
>there is a clear outline of what type of person can post here
>if virginity is all you got to show for your wizardry then you do not belong here
Do you have any arguments at all to support this interpretation?
>there is a clear outline of what type of person can post here
>if virginity is all you got to show for your wizardry then you do not belong here
Do you have any arguments at all to support this interpretation?
>>176934
well it's true the word crab has lost its meaning
what you have now are basically normalfags larping as crabs for pity points
the crabs from pre-2010's made wizchan and were basically proto-wizards
and we had enough run time to know all volcels are just larping normalfags as well
so what are we left here?
wizards take the involuntary celibacy from crabs while dropping the parts that make them normalfags, as well as keeping parts of volcel like ignoring succubi and not pursuing relationships and keeping out normalfag parts like optimism/improvebrah shit
well it's true the word crab has lost its meaning
what you have now are basically normalfags larping as crabs for pity points
the crabs from pre-2010's made wizchan and were basically proto-wizards
and we had enough run time to know all volcels are just larping normalfags as well
so what are we left here?
wizards take the involuntary celibacy from crabs while dropping the parts that make them normalfags, as well as keeping parts of volcel like ignoring succubi and not pursuing relationships and keeping out normalfag parts like optimism/improvebrah shit
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>>176939
Everything that becomes popular with normalshits loses their meaning, proof to this is there are even subrredits where succubi claim to be crabs, femcels I think it's called. Same happened with the term hikki and neet, self conscious normalfags who perceive themselves as low status or less attractive than their peer populate those groups to feel less bad about themselves. Internet is a shitfest.
Everything that becomes popular with normalshits loses their meaning, proof to this is there are even subrredits where succubi claim to be crabs, femcels I think it's called. Same happened with the term hikki and neet, self conscious normalfags who perceive themselves as low status or less attractive than their peer populate those groups to feel less bad about themselves. Internet is a shitfest.
>>176933
There are people on this website who have had sex and have girlfriends without a doubt. It's impossible to gate keep image boards and no way of knowing someone's sexual history here. They could be in this thread, they could even be you. You could even be a succubus trying to start drama by purity spiraling harder and harder as a troll.
You're now bitching about relationships yourself, derailing a thread with your obsession over sex, dating and other bullshit.
There are plenty of people who don't like being 30 year old virgins. A meme about being a wizard doesn't stop them craving things they can't have. There's no rule against being a virgin who wishes he wasn't one.
There are people on this website who have had sex and have girlfriends without a doubt. It's impossible to gate keep image boards and no way of knowing someone's sexual history here. They could be in this thread, they could even be you. You could even be a succubus trying to start drama by purity spiraling harder and harder as a troll.
You're now bitching about relationships yourself, derailing a thread with your obsession over sex, dating and other bullshit.
There are plenty of people who don't like being 30 year old virgins. A meme about being a wizard doesn't stop them craving things they can't have. There's no rule against being a virgin who wishes he wasn't one.
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>>176944
I don't have any friends myself
I don't have any friends myself
I don't think I ever had an urge so socialize, I'm always surrounded by family members and that's enough for me.
>urge to socialize
I've never really understood this. I can imagine feeling bored, even isolated, alienated, and so on. But there was never a conception in my mind that other people could somehow solve this malaise for me, especially not through idle chatter. This is probably why I've not only felt unmotivated to be around people and to follow through into deeper relationships but actively shunned every opportunity for someone to be invested in my life or feelings, so as to call them a "friend" or "partner". I realize the idea of being close to someone repulses me on an instinctual level and I can only stomach interactions with others where there is no danger of actually relating to someone personally i.e. abstract/technical discussion and debates.
I've never really understood this. I can imagine feeling bored, even isolated, alienated, and so on. But there was never a conception in my mind that other people could somehow solve this malaise for me, especially not through idle chatter. This is probably why I've not only felt unmotivated to be around people and to follow through into deeper relationships but actively shunned every opportunity for someone to be invested in my life or feelings, so as to call them a "friend" or "partner". I realize the idea of being close to someone repulses me on an instinctual level and I can only stomach interactions with others where there is no danger of actually relating to someone personally i.e. abstract/technical discussion and debates.
I struggle with need to socialize from time to time then I slow my mind down and realize I'm just Borderline+Narcissistic lookin' 4 supply… People suck
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>>176627
I think that tendency for narcissism is simply a natural response to solitary self-sufficiency. Even if you're unable to get any stimulation from other people, deep down somewhere, you're always going to end up craving a little self-affirmation. If you had a healthy, active social life, you would get your fill of this without even having to stop and think about it, but since you most probably don't, your brain has to resort to these urges to help you stay grounded.
This is pretty much how it's always manifested itself for me as well, by the way, and I just finished going through a particularly bad bout of it that left me feeling more alienated than ever. If this means anything to you, I recognized enough of my own schizoid worldview in those two posts you made that I had to share my feelings about this.
I think that tendency for narcissism is simply a natural response to solitary self-sufficiency. Even if you're unable to get any stimulation from other people, deep down somewhere, you're always going to end up craving a little self-affirmation. If you had a healthy, active social life, you would get your fill of this without even having to stop and think about it, but since you most probably don't, your brain has to resort to these urges to help you stay grounded.
This is pretty much how it's always manifested itself for me as well, by the way, and I just finished going through a particularly bad bout of it that left me feeling more alienated than ever. If this means anything to you, I recognized enough of my own schizoid worldview in those two posts you made that I had to share my feelings about this.