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 No.178842[Last 50 Posts]

First about let me make this clear, this thread ain't against wizardry or any improvecuck shit, it's about groid behaviour and avoiding them

Back in the day I used to not give a fuck about my looks, had long hair and went out with a hoodie. While that kept some normgroids away sometimes it made business owners to look at me with suspiction or attract crazy people and stuff like that. Lately I was reading that Lookism webtoon and started to think about grooming myself a little. The other day I wanted to test how much this would change so I went with my hoodie and dark jeans as always except I put a shirt and a necktie and styled my hair (I'm thinking about cutting it since long hair requires too much care). I also put on sunglasses. Groids' behaviour changed almost instantly towards me, store owners won't view me with suspiction, they even treated me with more manners and stuff. My looks were more like a mafia thug/aggressive type and hobos and related shit also avoided me

Don't get me wrong, I find this so fucking frustrating. I realized that just by putting a fucking necktie normgroids would treat me different, their superficialism is terrible. I mean I know that groids are superficial but experiencing this was even more shocking. They judge people by their looks in a very sick manner. You could be either a psychopath or a genius and your looks would dictate their reaction. I don't want interaction with them yet ironically trying to look like them seems to keep groids away

So, what are your thoughts or experiences on this? Should wizards "blend in" among the groids to avoid unwanted attention? I always thought that looking like a hobo would be a better option since that would scare them away but on the opposite it seems that looking like a normalfag keeps them away. Like the gray man concept of preppers. I'm forced to go outside to buy groceries and some stuff so staying inside 24/7 is impossible, I must walk in the fucking city where the lowest human type walks around

 No.178843

>>178842
With a society that is OBSESSED with conformity, it's almost mandatory to fit in with the other normgroids.

 No.178844

It depends
I think if you live in the city its not a bad idea to groom yourself just enough to blend in and not be troubled.
If you live somewhere rural where you barely have to interact with strangers, its not necessary

 No.178845

If you wore a hoodie with a tie they probably just assumed you were autistic so they were nicer.

 No.178846

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>>178842
Judging people by their looks is not "sick" - it's normal. Have you ever seen Antifa mugshots? Behold. Fucked up people tend to look fucked up.

Your question is funny. "Should I dress normal if I don't want to stand out and be bothered?" Hmm.

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>>178846
>third row fourth column
WaaW

 No.178849

>>178846
mugshots are supposed to look bad

 No.178858

>>178846
4th row, 5th column looks like he posts here

 No.178896

>>178842
I'm a manager at my poverty wageslave job. I work in the service industry so its important to not look unkept. If I get a new employee who puts zero effort into their appearance I always judge them and I'm pretty much always right. Same goes for customers who look like drug addicts.

It has nothing to do with being superficial. Sure I'm profiling, but if you were a store owner and the ones stealing shit out of your store were all the opposite of clean cut, then you would start to watch these sorts of people when they come in, no?

There is nothing wrong with dressing like a hobo, but you gotta understand the consequences.

I've also seen very conventionally attractive people who were dressed nicely and were clearly not right in the head. Its not judge about looks/clothes. You can tell by someones body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, how they speak, what they say, if they're going to be an issue. 90% of communication is non verbal.

 No.178935

the way i see it we have a few options:
make an effort to blend in as good as possible to become part of our current standards, if positive interaction with the masses is your priority, or to simply be left alone.

put in the minimum effort, for example in a work environment where you will get kicked out for your appearance, like the other poster mentions in the service industry.

or don't care if you can handle disapproval from the masses, worst case getting harrassed. We are getting judged constantly either way and stereotypes will always exist, just like swimming against the current will never be easy.

 No.178937

>>178896
>I'm a manager
die

 No.178940

Iv experimented with a wide range of "looks" over the years. So while OPs post is by no means "groundbreaking" it is somewhat accurate.

Unfortunately the break down ultimately occurs when you start talking about the things you can't change simply by going shopping.
If you are "ugly" people expect you to apologize to society by dressing up so your status as a good boy can be perceived by even the dumbest of people.
If you have above average facial symmetry all you really have to do is make sure your clothing isn't covered in stains and most people will accept you as is.

 No.178963

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>>178846
This.
Sick people tend to look sick.
Dangerous people tend to look dangerous.
Nice people usually look nice, and so on.

The vast majority of the time a person's physiognomy (and chosen fashion style) tell you everything you need to know about that person and you can react accordingly to them before they ever speak a single word
There's lots of danger and evil in the world today and if we had to judge every single person we meet after knowing them for a long period of time, then we'd end up murdered or robbed very swiftly. Instead our brains are excellent at discovering patterns and these patterns help us engage adeptly in the world

I advocate that wizards who have to live around normies should all engage in extensive weight lifting. No matter what clothes you wear, how you smell, or how your hair is- if you have 100 pounds more muscle than they do they're gonna be nice to you

 No.178967

>>178963
This is why only extremely low IQ bluepilled people think lookism is false.

Everything in life is about your looks for average people. Not talking about people born once per generation like Stephen Hawking.

I assume most imageboard users have some mild aspergers as it's an epiphany to them that clean well
cut clothes and a good haircut makes people treat you 100 times better than looking like a junkie.

People need to stop believing in these Disney fantasies like "it's the inside that counts".
No it doesn't.

We are animals, we judge on signals that originate from how people's faces look, how their bodies look and what kind of clothing they are wearing.
Life isn't Disney and a "good heart" doesn't mean shit if you look terrible especially as a man.

 No.178968

>>178967
Hawking was a pretty handsome guy before his disease crippled him.

 No.178972

>>178940
i literally go from a 4 to a 0 if i let the sides of my hair grow from a few millimeters to 2cm, people start looking at me like i ran over their cat with a lawnmower

though this is one of the biggest cities in the world, its amazing how when you start deviating even slightly from the clean cut ideal, people see you as an unkempt junkie or someone they can just tell to buzz off casually

also fuck those who say "nobody cares about how you look, everyone is only minding their own business and thinking about themselves" when i have so much evidence to the contrary, the uglier i look the more i get completely random people verbally assault me

 No.178973

>>178963
I probably have a 100,000 fold increase in risk of being robbed by that freaky guy in a hoodie and the hood up with dirty sneakers.

At least when compared to that businessman who is wearing a nice coat and collared shirt. There is like a 0,0000001% chance he'll do something to me.

So I tend to agree pattern recognition is a thing. Shitty people often look shitty too. I also look shitty but for different reasons, it's because I have a physical illness on my skin.

 No.178992

>>178972
>also fuck those who say "nobody cares about how you look, everyone is only minding their own business and thinking about themselves"
can't agree more. everyone is judgemental

 No.179014

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There's a lot that I want to say about this. I spent the past two hours typing out an incoherent mess of stories and quips and caveats and anecdotes but, at the risk of appearing that I haven't thoroughly considered this phenomenon, I'll whittle it down to this:

The prevalence of appearance as a metric of human value is quickly approaching a feverish pitch as people become more and more materialistic and identified with their lower instincts. You can either give into it, or resist it. While I acknowledge that part of maturity is to realize that you must adapt to the demands of life, I think still further and infinitely more precious is the ability to say "Yes, I have it right; and yes, it is everybody-else that is wrong; no, I will not give in", even if we suffer for it. Normies value stupid, worthless displays of material power because they are by-and-large thoughtless and instinctual. Accept their metric of value as a genuine determinant of your worth, and you will be too. Personal worth and value is not something that you should be able to put on in front of the mirror at the beginning of the day, and peel off at the end of it. It should not be the circumstances of our inheritance or the colors of our plummage that make us proud of who we are, but the consistent purity of our thoughts and ideals, and the resulting strength and effectiveness of our actions - how we apply our wits and drive to use what we have been given to improve our own situation day by day. That is real, lasting power. That is what makes a hero of a man. That is what you will leave behind if you leave anything at all; that is what you will be remembered for if you are remembered at all; that is what you will take when you evolve beyond this place, if you evolve beyond it at all.

 No.179017

Are you forcing lookism on people to create more wizards, is that your final goal?

>t. got my powers about a week ago, it's fucking insane


normies can suck my dick now literally and figuratively. Holy shit.

 No.179072

>>178972
I noticr the exact same thing especially about thr “sudes of your hair” part. I look worlds better with my sides buzzed I just look awful if they arent. It’s actually uncanny just how much lifting and a haircut do for me actually. And also I completely agree with the “random people insulting me” thing because I get the same interactions eith strangers if I let my appearence slide enough.

 No.179092

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You're better than normies in every way. You should look better than them too. Not in their way, but in your own image.

 No.179096

>>178842
I dress decent and for the occasion (no different from all the other people there). No prints or anything like that. I go to a proper barbershop to cut my hair. I work out enough not to be fat and keep a good posture (only an hour or two a week). I use face creams to make my disgusting skin look more alive (the kind you wash off afterwards, its a treatment thing).
But yet nothing has changed since I were a teen because at the core I am the same person mentally and structurally. It's like the hull of a ship, you can slap a fresh coat of paint on there but it will never truly fix the underlying issues. What I'm saying is that I'm naturally ugly. Any identifiable good trait in looks, I do not have it. It's not a case of "teehee I'm so ugly look its an excuse for my failiures" but an objective fact.
>They judge people by their looks in a very sick manner
Yes, there is a lot of science behind this. I went to the store a few weeks back, saw this scientific newspaper reading:
>Your brain is coded to hate the ugly. New science shows that evolution has made us hate some faces - and rightfully so.
Not only do they start of by hating you from the get-go they are also disgusted by you and will avoid you. Both males and females will go "I dont judge people based on looks but charachter" yet whenever there is a person who is according to the book canonically ugly they are always played by someone good looking but with glasses and bad clothes. They can't even stand to look at you.
Sometimes people can make up for their ugliness with personality or skill but it's quite rare and if you're, say autistic, you are pretty much screwed. If you are born both ugly and autistic, you've pretty much lost at life from the start. This might seem like a crab rant but I really do beleive these things even as a none crab

 No.180131

>>178842
You are literally your body and nothing more.

 No.180141

Looks are pretty important

 No.180181

>>178842
It's up to you, I intentionally dress like a hobo because I am a lazy slob and prefer normalfags to keep away from me but if you want people to treat you more politely go ahead

 No.182185

>>179014
Being a spiritually developed individual is cool and all but this entire thread is all about how normies perceive you based on your looks so pretty much nothing you said here has any relevance to the discussion.

 No.182186

>>179014
a diamond in this thread of dogshit

 No.182193

>>178846
Fuck
>>178896
Off
>>178963
Retarded
>>180131
Normgroids

 No.182265

>>182193
why do you think this wiz >>180131 is wrong?
Are you anything more than your body, if so, what else are you besides your body?

 No.182377

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>>182265
Soul, mind and dreams c:

 No.182378

>>182377
i wish.

 No.182401

>>179014
>how we apply our wits and drive to use what we have been given to improve our own situation day by day

so what you're saying is, you're for lookism because it's a way to use your wits to improve your own situation?

 No.182402

>>178972
Do you get abused by niggers? It's so unlikely to happen among whites I have to ask. It's like all the bitching about catcalling, then when a video is made it's drunk spics and niggers doing it all the time.

>>179096
Ugly people usually have mental health problems, bad behavioural problems or low IQs. It sucks to be born that way but the pattern still exists. Unless you were disfigured some how your facial features are part of your genetics too.

>>180181
If you want to be left alone looking average is best. It's easy to ghost as an average guy. It's difficult to ghost if you look like Charles Manson

 No.182433

>>178972
Obviously you wouldn't post a picture of yourself here but do you know any picture with someone that has the same problem with the hair?
I can't picture anyone who it would make such a big difference for so I got curious.

 No.182458

>>182433
that poster sounds like a zoomer justifying his normie haircut, I wouldn't put much stock in it

 No.182478

>>182402
>Ugly people usually have mental health problems, bad behavioural problems or low IQs. It sucks to be born that way but the pattern still exists. Unless you were disfigured some how your facial features are part of your genetics too.

It's called 'honest signalling' in biology, a trait you can't fake.
https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-3-319-47829-6_1666-1

That's why apps like Tinder are popular, you don't get to bullshit people with text, clothes, etc., you see someone's face and you either think of them as attractive or you don't.
Most succubi only see about ~5% of men as facially attractive.

Though the playing field is unfair as succubi use dishonest signalling through heavy makeup, allowing even a very ugly succubus to look tolerable for photos.

 No.182496

>>182402
Few people are truly "ugly", and it's often a nurture type situation that results in psychological abnormalities.

 No.182497

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>>182496
Not true. Nothing to do with nurture and everything with genes.

 No.182525

>>182497
It's environment AND genetics. Little to no control over either so it's over.

 No.182542

>>182497
Certain looks maybe, but modern society is excellent at producing mentally ill humans.

 No.182576

Go to the barber semi-regularly and keep beard trimmed decently unless you REALLY want the traditional wizard look.

Or just pick up trash idk man

 No.182578

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>>182542
Autism has skyrocketed in the last two decades

 No.182579

>>182578
Only cause everyone who dares step slightly out of social norms is deemed autistic.

 No.182580

>>182579
No, because a lot of succubi after their partying phase are marrying highly salaried nerds. For example in Silicon Valley the amount of autism diagnosis have risen by 700% in 15 years.

https://www.womenofsiliconvalley.com/blog/neurodiversity-in-silicon-valley

Autism is an extremely heritable trait.
This wouldn't otherwise be a problem since for girIs autism doesn't hinder their life in any way or form.
But if their sons don't turn out to be millionaire geeks, they will probably live very lonely lives or sperg out and do something stupid once they realize they are going to be alone for the next 100 years.

 No.182581

>>182580
This is exactly what I mean. All the smart geeks in Silicon Valley are having smart geek kids, and are labeled autistic.

 No.182586

>>182581
But most people on the higher end of the IQ spectrum *do* have autism.

Their brain differs drastically from neurotypical brains.

It's not just a label.
Let me put it this way: Two parents, a trucker and a cosmetologist from Alabama, are never, ever going to produce a child who can code C++ at a professional level at age 14.

Neurotypicals are practically a separate species compared non-NT's with very different life outcomes and brain structures.
Higher achieving neurotypicals may end up in politics or as a high up pencil pusher in some corporation.
But they're not going to understand anything about astrophysics, programming or higher mathematics no matter how much they try to study.

Conversely, the child of that Silicon Valley tech millionaire and a neuroscientist female is very likely not going to go into a fraternity, party his mind out playing beer pong and engage in casual sex with random succubi.
He is likely spending his teenage years in front of a computer or reading books.

Sometimes it scares me how little awareness there is of the major differences between "normies" and non-neurotypicals.
They have nothing in common in life and often barely even interact with one another unless necessary. They are like two rival species.

 No.182587

>>182586
My friend is the kid of wealthy tech parents and he has basically played Minecraft from 13 to age 22 and done little else.

Though I don't mind as he is my only real life and online friend that I regularly get to play with.

 No.182588

>>182578
I just spent the past several hours coding a Breakout clone for the Commodore 64. At least I'm not CWC.

 No.182598

>>182580
>succubi of silicon valley dot com
I'm not even going to bother reading that.

 No.182599

>>182478
This is a brutal reality that more people should accept. The crabs seethe at the rampant lookism that pervades our society, and while it is true that modern technology has intensified the phenomenon, that doesn't make it unwarranted.

Looks reliably tell you a lot about people; in particular, if they're uggos, there's probably something off about them. That's just the way things are.

 No.182645

>>182586
> the child of that Silicon Valley tech millionaire and a neuroscientist female is very likely not going to go into a fraternity, party his mind out playing beer pong and engage in casual sex with random succubi.
HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, oh you got to be fucking kidding me. While it is true that two retarded parents arent going to produce a smart-child (although it can happen, just isnt a 80-100% guarantee) saying silicon valley millionaires arent impulsive dumb shits is laughable, most if not all of them (the succubi and men) are involved with the billionaire elite and participate in activities such as child-rape and orgies (just look at jeffery epstein).

 No.182669

>My looks were more like a mafia thug/aggressive type and hobos and related shit also avoided me

Holy shit kys op

 No.182676

>>182599
>Looks reliably tell you a lot about people; in particular, if they're uggos, there's probably something off about them. That's just the way things are.

Which came first though, being off or looking like a goblin?
A person bullied long enough for their looks, short stature etc. will eventually snap and become strange.

>>182645
> silicon valley millionaires arent impulsive dumb shits is laughable, most if not all of them (the succubi and men) are involved with the billionaire elite and participate in activities such as child-rape

Take your meds. What does Epstein have to do with any of this or people designing apps and games for your phone?

 No.185062

>>178846
that people look mental but related. Like a big sicko family.

 No.185087

>>182676
One factor is that ugly people are treated worse by other humans. That *causes* them to be less positively socialised.

Another factor is that evolution has designed us such that animals find others with good genetics attractive. For example, antlers on deer should be symmetrical and huge, as this reflects the health the animal. Ugly people are more likely to be genetically defective in other ways, often mentally

 No.185088

Yes that may be right, but what I'm supposed to do? I don't have any money to buy some fancy clothes because I'm a NEET, I have no knowledge about fashion.

For people like me it was over before it even began, it's not that we play the game badly, is more like we are physically and psychologically incapable of even playing.

 No.185092

>>182669
It's a brag post
OP is probably a lookism poster himself who isn't even a virgin, just a forum addict

 No.185128

I see people with ear gauges and visible tattoos working in stores these days. Beyond calling you a succubus and telling you to get your haircut, I doubt anyone really cared. The hoodie partially obstructs your head from the cameras above. Assuming you aren't 14 years old, you should know better. There's nothing wrong with good hygiene and blending in with society either. Do you really want to draw attention to yourself? Dress in a bikini and do cartwheels.

 No.185131

>>185087
There are Youtube experiments on that too.
People see a handsome faced tall man in business attire and if he falls, men and succubi scramble to help him, provide him with beverages and ask if he is ok.

They see an ugly guy in a hoodie fall down and people walk past him as if he's some junkie or dangerous monster.

Though succubi universally were helped by all bypassers.
So in essence, humans in their lizard brain only place worth on high value males and all females.

How/why aren't more wizards disgusted with humanity?

 No.185134

I found another one, though this one is more brutal as the other one larps as a literal homeless person.

Men, succubi, everyone scrambles to help the businessman guy.

Nobody gives a shit about the homeless person struggling except some random old black man.
But literally every single bypasser helped the businessman.

 No.185135

>>182586
Your post is wrong on so many levels. You don't even know what autism is. Most people with this affliction are unemployed living in severe poverty (not in a tech hub) because they can't support themselves since nobody wants to hire them. In the best case scenario, they have disability benefits and are not sleeping under a bridge.

Silicon Valley is the exact opposite of what a hivemind of autists looks like. It's neurotypical as fuck. Everyone cares way too much about social skills and status over there. You know, the things that people with autism are indifferent to. Just because someone can code at 14 does not, in any way, imply he is autistic. It's more of a neurotypical trait to be good at coding since they are more likely to be overachievers and less likely to give up when confronted with obstacles in learning.

 No.185136

>>185134
The white bourgeoisie who have spent their life in comfort, shielded from the traumas and the woes of the world do not relate to suffering. That black man knows what it's like to feel apart from.

 No.185140

>>185135
Nah, you're wrong. Most coders are autists. The rates of autism in children are on a massive rise in Silicon Valley compared to anywhere else in the US.

https://www.womenofsiliconvalley.com/blog/neurodiversity-in-silicon-valley

Silicon Valley has 7-8x the number of autistic children compared to any other city in the US.

You also clearly can't differentiate high functioning autism from low functioning autism, just stop posting if you don't know it's a spectrum
(as in, you know, the name implies, autism spectrum).

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/236-billion-dollar-elephant-silicon-valley-why-isnt-anyone-elcik

Low functioning autism is also on a massive rise because not all of the tech workers kids turn out to be high functioning.

>The Autism Society of California notes that the state’s count of cases of severe autism (those with severe functional limitations) rose from 3262 to 73,000 in just 25 years.

Yeah, Silicon Valley is so "neurotypical as fuck" it is the largest cluster of non-neurotypical children not in the US but on the entire planet.

 No.185144

>>185134
This is staged propaganda.

 No.185145

>>185140
>links a succ blog
>also links a normalfag job site
>completely ignores the unemployment rate of autistic people that has been well documented in multiple studies
Ok then, let me ask you this. If there are so many "high functioning" autistic programmers in Silicon Valley, why did Microsoft have to create an entirely separate hiring program for autistic applicants just so they can get past the neurotypical interview process and not get immediately filtered out? Do you honestly believe that someone who can go through a regular Silicon Valley interview, a place that has the reputation of having the most social-oriented and brutal interview practices of any tech hub, and not have a meltdown from the stress can even call themselves autistic? In other words, the line between being a "high functioning" autist and being like every other NT is kinda blurred.

 No.185146

>>185140
Most coder kids are normies hopping on the bandwagon now. I've been unemployed for 7 years after I got my computer science degree.

 No.185147

>>185144
oh yeh irl normies love helping honmeless

 No.185148

>>185147
They definitely don't love helping homeless people who happen to be wearing business suits. This is very obviously just an elaborate justification for the victim complex that people like this >>185136 have. Delusional and attached to fantasies that the only reason their life sucks is because they're somehow being unfairly conspired against.

 No.185150

>>185145
>the line between being a "high functioning" autist and being like every other NT is kinda blurred.

It is, but the suffering is mostly internal for having to suppress and repress your true self for decades.

Elon Musk only came out as a HFA/asperger this year after hiding it for all his adult life after no longer being able to keep it in.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57045770

HFA's IQs are generally off the charts, they can emulate normies fully if they want to, down to the mannerisms, clothing, nonverbal cues, hairstyles, speech patterns, everything.

But it takes a toll on your well-being and mental health.

 No.185151

>>185135
High functioning autism isn't a diagnosis though, it's what you call people on the very low end of the autism spectrum.

The popularized term for higher IQ autists is aspergers.

 No.185152

>>185151
I thought asperger was an entirely different affliction, like down syndrome.

 No.185154

>>185150
>>185151
Why can't people just be smart? Why are smart people now considered like some kind of pathological half breeds? I guarantee you that back in the day they didn't call Isaac Newton an aspie or an autistic. Can't we admit that you're name-calling is getting a little too… autistic?

 No.185155

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>High-functioning autism (HFA) is an autism classification where a person exhibits no intellectual disability.
>High functioning autists have better visual/spatial skills (higher performance IQ) than the general population.
>Several studies have shown that the features associated with HFA may increase the probability of engaging in criminal behavior, particulary financial and white collar crime.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3416662/

The tested HFA IQ range is considerably higher than that of "normal" children. The average child that displayed traits of HFA was over 110 IQ and even the lowest participants were 105, the population average being 100.

 No.185156

>>185154
>I guarantee you that back in the day they didn't call Isaac Newton an aspie or an autistic

Horrible argument. They didn't call schizophrenics by their real name either, they called them lunatics or possessed by the devil.

The only reason they didn't get a proper diagnosis was because the proper diagnosis didn't exist yet.

Newton lived in the renaissance era when people still believed in witches and ghosts.

 No.185157

>>185156
Ok, now we believe in mythological genetic mental diseases

 No.185158

>>185157
>mythological genetic mental diseases
Lots of mental diseases are either caused directly by a genetic disorder or have genetic markers, i.e. alzheimers and downs syndrome.

 No.185160

>>185158
Sure, but "me not social but know lots of facts and math" = autism?

 No.185161

>>185160
https://www.wired.com/2001/12/aspergers/

This is a pretty good article detailing the genetic background of autism, aspergers, hfa.

Unfortunately yes, being asocial yet highly apt in math and hard sciences is an extremely strong indicator of being on the autism spectrum.

The only people who fight against this are those who wish to be labeled normies and fear the autism label (maybe even fake wizards such as yourself who come to gloat on this site?).

 No.185162

>>185161
Well, I will continue to be skeptical of this whole thing. You also sent me a very unacademic source which would be considered a crime in a serious research environment.

 No.185164

>>185162
>Autism was first recognized on two continents nearly simultaneously. In 1943, a child psychiatrist named Leo Kanner published a monograph outlining a curious set of behaviors he noticed in 11 children at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore. A year later, a pediatrician in Vienna named Hans Asperger, who had never seen Kanner's work, published a paper describing four children who shared many of the same traits. Both Kanner and Asperger gave the condition the same name: autism—from the Greek word for self, autòs—because the children in their care seemed to withdraw into iron-walled universes of their own.

That was in the article though, for those searching for the origins of autism.

 No.185170

If we look at the definition of autism, the first line of the Wikipedia article: "Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by difficulties with social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior." Simply being asocial doesn't cut it. NTs can also be asocial, in fact the term can apply to practically any mental disorder that is severe enough (schizophrenia, personality disorders, anxiety disorders etc). You need to have difficulties with communication. You need to have a noticeable lack of ability to communicate with others. If you're asocial, it could mean you just don't like talking with people, but you also don't have a really hard time doing so if the need arises.

The term "high functioning autism" is a bit of a misnomer, I think. A lot of HFAers aren't able to function in society like everyone else. They may be able to dress themselves and type in complete sentences but they may still have trouble with certain tasks like working or driving. It could also mean having narrow interests yet also not intellectually handicapped. You could even mistake someone with HFA with someone who has an anxiety disorder, which seems to be the case most of the time. Then we have people who literally roleplay as having HFA, like in the case of Elon Musk, who claim to be on the spectrum. Suddenly, the rest of the spectrum has an increased expectation of being just as capable, just as intelligent and motivated as a billionaire. But that's not how it works in the real world. No, you can't just claim that you're autistic and have some kind of superpower that others can only dream of having. Now it seems anyone can label themselves as HFA so they can claim "I'm on the spectrum!" and they get away with it. Let's be real though, if celebrities and high profile businessmen are starting to identify as being on the spectrum, there's something not quite right there. Maybe the spectrum should only include the most severe cases of autism to moderate instead of severe to "so mild that nobody even knows you're on the spectrum"?

These are my thoughts as someone who can't even hold a five second conversation with others, even when I don't feel anxious while doing it. The capability just isn't there. I was diagnosed as a toddler because I wouldn't stop banging my head against the wall and my parents freaked the fuck out. I will never be able to support myself. I look at normies and wonder how they do it. How they go through life with such ease without breaking down and being committed to a mental ward. It's unimaginable to even do a fraction of the shit that most people who claim to have HFA are capable of. It just seems like a way for normies to push the autists who are really on the spectrum out of the way and take claim of a label that was never theirs, in order to feel special. All the while they go on with their lives, the truly suffering fall by the wayside.

 No.185171

>>185170
I agree. HFA's aren't necessarily functional either, or current society is structured in a way that doesn't allow them to flourish yet.

Even if they are 130 IQ but they are highly asocial and simply cannot stay sane in an office space or construction site, life is going to be very restricted for them unless they get lucky and get an inheritance or lottery win.

Being a HFA in the first place means the person is highly abnormal. They are at the top end of the autism spectrum functionally, meaning they generally have higher intelligence than most of the general population.

At the same time, they have quirks and personality traits that make them completely different from "normies". There is no guarantee they can make it at all in a professional environment like Musk can.

Some may make it as artists. Some might just enjoy doing hobbies like painting or music. Some have severe depression and simply can't get much done. Some excel in strategy games like chess. The possibilities are endless.

It sure is easier to have a child who is a HFA as opposed to a severely autistic kid, because they can take care of themselves and their hygiene, you can have stimulating convesations with them and just generally hang around with them like a normal person.

But are they going to be able to lead a happy life? IMO, it purely depends on whether they will have access to sustenance or money or not.
If they are forced to wageslave, many will just kill themselves or rather to go a mental institution because they just can't do it. Not because they don't want to, but because they can't.

 No.185188

>>185131
It could be that a nontrivial amount of wizards (the people that frequent this site, at least) really aren't low-value males and thus are spared the brunt of society's cruelness, which gives them less of a reason to embrace misanthropy. Just a thought.

 No.185193

>>185131
>>185188
Or it could be that people ALREADY FUCKING KNOW. WE ALL KNOW. WE HAVE KNOWN.

It's the way the world is. what fucking point is there in dwelling on it? Are you gonna magically make people unbiased?

 No.185196

>>185188
There are good looking wizards, there have been plenty who were trust fund kids or just rich.

Jesus himself was a wizard. Nikola Tesla was one.

Being a wizard was at times applauded as a thing to strive for depending on the historical period.

To paint them all with the brush of being ugly short poor crazies who can't get anything is just malice because it has never been true.

 No.185237

>>185196
They are exceptions. And you are not Jesus or tesla

 No.185241

>>185237
At least I am a volcel and not a crab. I would rather be a normalfag than a crab.

 No.185244

>>178842
If you don't superficially judge people then you fuck up by doing something like not crossing the street when a group of black teens in Hoodies walk by and get mugged. Everyone does it, it's a survival mechanism. First impressions matter, deal with it.

 No.185252

>>178842
>shirt and necktie with hoodie
I think people were treating you nicely because they assumed you have some kind of mental deficiency.

 No.185258

>>185237
What's your point? Most good looking men or succubi in any set of humans are a very rare exception.

Most people are ugly, including normies.

 No.185262

Do you know what the saddest part is about being in the psych ward? Its not having the heart to tell certain staff members I didn't like them and didn't want to interact with them at all. Some staff not only did I not like, even the other staff disliked so they didn't even get to speak to any patients. But me, being kind, I was even nice to the staff I didn't like at all.

 No.185263

>>185262
Don't be so hard on yourself the ward is a rough place to be

 No.185269

>>185263
Yeah, schizo patients are like retarded dog humans. They can only react by disagreeing to whatever you say, or interacting with their environment in simple ways because their memory is so bad. I wish I didn't have to be near them.

 No.185274

>>185262
I was driven to borderline homicidal rage after a good looking tall 'chad' was getting hit on by all the female mental patients and a few staff members.
They were found fucking all around the hospital and nobody gave a shit even though I reported it like 10 times.

They wouldn't talk about anything except him. While mocking and laughing at short ugly guys like me.

At this point I realized just how animalistic and simplistic the human species is. Nothing more than base animals.

I would rather die than go to a mental ward again.
I also hate living in Oklahoma because half the young people here are mentally ill. I guess I am too since I ended up in the ward due to major depressive disorder, but those people were really cuckoo, they constantly saw mirages, heard voices etc.

 No.185277

>>185274
You are fine dude, you are sane, unlike me I am bipolar and have hallucinated although only once. Ignore the rest and do you.

 No.185280

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"All modern imageboards are full of this lookism bullshit. I'm glad that Wizchan doesn't have th-"

 No.185318

>>185280
Because it's more true now than ever. All the places I visit online are talking about it.

You are practically treated as a subhuman these days as an ugly short guy.

 No.185363

>>185274
I'm not a crab but most of these promiscious skanks will eventually regret sleeping around when their looks slowly begin to fade, and the attention declines. Most of them can't keep going on like this forever.

 No.185364

>>185274
They're just modern day whores, good for nothing souless voids with little to no self respect for themselves, an unfortunate by- product of this society. Although it does seem to be a lot worse in America in comparison to elsewhere.

 No.185367

>>185364
In europe people are even more sexually liberal. Average person in iceland and finland lose their virginity at like 15 years old or something

 No.185368

>>185367
I don’t know, there’s young love and then there’s whores on onlyfans. I’d like to believe Europe is more civilized than amerikkka.

 No.185497

going full thug is acutally a solid strat for walking at night, especially if you're a darkie. never had trouble for three years of walking alone 5 days/week.

 No.185500

>>185368
>I’d like to believe Europe is more civilized than amerikkka
it's just as shit as everywhere else

 No.185520

>>185497
Going full thug would imply using your weapons maliciously. You're a responsible citizen wizzie, keep enjoying your solitary night walks.

I enjoy night walks myself, usually when there aren't people around. Lately I've had to put myself on house arrest because I've noticed myself becoming extremely irritable and aggressive for no apparent reason. People will piss me off to the point where I'm willing to become extremely violent in an instant, before I even have time to think about what I'm doing.
Does anyone have advice for how I can better deal with this issue?

 No.185787

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I got my head shaved today and discover that my skull shape has extended backwards like a xenomorph's. I could have sworn I used to have a normal skull shape before. Fuck me, and I thought I don't have a half bad face too. Guess I am in the ugly club now.

 No.185832

>>185787
> my skull shape has extended backwards like a xenomorph'
pics or it didn't happen

 No.185869

>>185787
if its a sloped forehead you are not special, i also have the gay alien skull phenotype

 No.186457

>>178896
>I'm a manager
>I judge people based on their looks
>Totally not being superficial, fellow NEETs
God these "manager" sure is miserable. A little crumb of power and they think of themselves as superior beings or some shit.

Just get the fuck out.

 No.186521

>>185274
pretty people get preferential treatment everywhere.

 No.186533

>>186521
There is a reason for that.

 No.186534

>>186521
Ugly people are usually twisted and hideous on the insdie. Attractive people are usually laid back chill and can vibe w/ p much everyone cause they havent spent their entire life pityingthemselves over how they look they just embraced life. u would know if u werent so ugly

 No.186537

>>186521
>>186534
both of these comments are true, with causation going both ways in a self-reinforcing cycle

 No.186538

>>186534
Nice generalisation. In a lot of cases , an unattractive person ends up becoming bitter and jaded because they were treated harshly throughout their life for something mostly beyond their control. Whereas a more physically attractive person will have a much more relaxed and easier life because they are showered with smiles and compliments from a very young age by their parents,family friends,and aqquaintances, and it also helps them recieve opportunities later on in life.

 No.186539

>>186534
Look up the Halo Effect. The more attractive you are, the more likely you are to be percieved as being a good person. Just try to visualise an ideal individual in your head. More often than not, that person is attractive.

 No.186541

>>186539
>>186538
This. Being a male model is essentially living a stress free life with cheat codes and god mode enabled.

 No.186551

>>178937
Just because hes a manager doesn't mean shit. being a manager is easy even retards do it, theres low level managers too you know.

 No.186552

>>185196
Does anything think jesus was just a nihilist and went around helping people so much that they wrote stories about him? i don't think he was the son of god, just a nihilist who wanted to help people.

 No.186553

>>186552
I don't see how anything relating to jesus or his beliefs could be nihilist.

 No.186554

>>186552
In what way a nihilist? In terms of blurring the line between morally good and bad? He was pretty clear about what he thought was proper behavior and what wasn't. Or in terms of denying the possibility of reaching knowledge/wisdom in any way? He clearly taught that universal truth exists and it is through him/God that you reach this. He was in no way a nihilist.

He was only a reformer of Judaism, someone who thought followers of the god of Israel should focus more on altruism instead of abstract laws and rituals. He was a nice guy from what we know, but nonetheless one of the most overrated persons in history probably.

 No.186555

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>>186552
>Does anything think jesus was just a nihilist and went around helping people so much that they wrote stories about him? i don't think he was the son of god, just a nihilist who wanted to help people.
That's kinda Nietzsche's take on Jesus in his book Antichrist. Pilate scorns Jesus for misusing the word "truth", after all.

 No.186564

I associate goodness with people of mild appearance, modestly dressed.
I associate beautiful people with evil.

 No.186566

>>186564
I associate people with evil.

 No.186568

I don't know if people perceive beautiful and nicely dressed as good. Mother Teresa did not look like this. Rather as powerful and rich, so it is worth pleasing them. succubi like bad boys for a similar reason. They are powerful.

 No.186576

>>186555
Nietzsche pretty much put christianity together with everything he hated. Once he calls it anarchism, at another part he calls it hedonism, yet at another part calls it nihilism. I'm not a christian by any means but he obviously appears to me as emotionally biased and as someone who can't be trusted to draw an accurate picture about christianity.

 No.186577

>>186576
When christianity was such a huge facet of society and culture, I don't think he could be unbiased about it.

 No.186580

>>186577
True I guess but religion started to matter less and less long before Nietzsche. Seems to me he kicked a dead dog. Still, somebody had to write what he did eventually, I think.

 No.186585

>>186576
The question was whether Jesus was a nihilist who wanted to help people in this life, and Nietzsche agrees with this view to a degree. To him Christianity has little to do with Christ, vid related

 No.186610

>>178973
Your missing a point in favor of a single perspective on the issue. They guy looking like a bum is more likely to try physically assaulting you than the business owner. The business owner is more like to commit a "white-collar" crime against you.
The outward appearance is an indicator of type and potential for violence. It can used to determine what to be alert for and what kind of skills will be needed to counter it.
To answer OP's question though, the outward appearance should fit into the situation at hand to provided a "grayman" look with the correct mannerisms yet also be able to convey the appearance of other types of looks with others. This way your looks become the base for you to build any aura (for lack of a better term) that will benefit your goals at the time. I.e. grey man for traveling, confused person for the motherly/helping type while seeking info or items, the hair triggered sociopath when a pack of niggers wonders close.

 No.186611

>>182645
>most if not all of them (the succubi and men) are involved with the billionaire elite and participate in activities such as child-rape and orgies (just look at jeffery epstein).
This although it is stated in an overly dramatic way. Only the top few rungs of the hierarchy are doing the pizza-gate tier bullshit. The lower down this ladder you look the more the blackmail generating "indulgence" become legal.
CA in general is filled with this. The top of the ladder sits in the Hollywood and tech industries, so natural sf and la are here hot spots. There is also a crossover with the military industries.
All you have to do is walking into to the correct bar or entertainment establishment and strike up a conversation with any above average person with a topic that requires higher than average intelligence. Before long you will be getting invites to "normal" after parties, as the regulars to these parties get to know you the crazier the parties get. Depending on your reaction to the craziness you will get invited to more and more fucked up shit.
Stumbled across that mess and got to the point they were offering fame and fortune but had to bend over and spread em as the price. If you get to that ghost those people don't give a definitive answer until you have disconnected them from your life as much as possible. Piss them off with a rejection they can and will (at least try with some groups) suicide your.

 No.186612

>>185193
Saw a reflection in the ole crystal ball it reminded me of the topic of a thread.
It's frustrating when you can figure shit out maybe try some shrooms you might understand it than, probably not if your a nigger.

 No.186613

>>185364
It's just advertised better. Same as niggers on tv, kinda surprised it's not pointed out more. The younger generations are odd can't tell how much is edgy smartassery and how much is npc dialogue. Either way it leads to slavery being openly practiced instead of hidden as it is now.

 No.186614

>>185520
Got the same issue. Nature walks help, the more of a disconnect you can get from both home and society/people the better. Something to remind that the universe can wash away even the biggest shit stains.

 No.186619

>>185134
its genuinely risky trying to help a homeless person though. give them food and they'll get mad at you cuz you dont give them money for drugs or w/e

he could stab you with a dirty needle, rob you, remember these ppl usually have literally nothing to lose

 No.186630

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>>185274
That thing happens everywhere, at my old workplace there was also this tall normie guy, it's ridiculuos how different the female coworkers treated him and were getting all flustered when he was around. Then he always talked about how much books he reads in a week and what a gamer he is by liking destiny, that's when I knew that normies finally infiltrated the usual safe space nerdy workplace.

 No.186631

>>186539
Although I realise the halo effect is very real, I personally don’t think of a highly attractive person when I visualise an “ideal individual”. I suppose I assume that if someone is highly attractive, they will be less likely to have developed other traits that I seem more important, such as kindness, wisdom, calmness, a sense of humour. Of course this doesn’t apply in all cases, but if you’re attractive enough that people just assume you’re a good person, why bother actually being a good person? People will think of you as such regardless, according to the halo effect.

 No.186639

>>186631
That's probably true but to the same tune if you're only treated kindly and embraced warmly by people your entire life you would more inclined to act kindly towards others because you would perceive the world as a kind and just place - swings both ways.

 No.186641

>>186639
For sure. I (perhaps paradoxically) agree with this too. It sure is a funny place we’re living in.

 No.186664

>>186631
>if someone is highly attractive, they will be less likely to have developed other traits that I seem more important, such as kindness, wisdom, calmness, a sense of humour.

In my experience it's pretty much the opposite.

 No.186665

>>186631
>I suppose I assume that if someone is highly attractive, they will be less likely to have developed other traits that I seem more important, such as kindness, wisdom, calmness, a sense of humour. Of course this doesn’t apply in all cases, but if you’re attractive enough that people just assume you’re a good person, why bother actually being a good person?
Because you reflect what you're given by the world. You have far fewer reasons to be a miserable asshole if everyone has been nice to you and helped you get what you wanted your whole life than if the world has been taking a shit on you for 30 years.

 No.186669

>>186665
kindness,- when ur at the top always, you never need to develop empathy and imagine what its like for those beneath you
wisdom, thats for nerds

calmness, maybe

a sense of humour.- just smug superiority, no need to be witty.

 No.186698

>>186555
>Yukari as the creator god
Well gee, that explains why everything's so fucked up. These gnostic scholars can ditch their esoteric scriptures and turn to Hanlon's razor as wielded by an omnipotent anime succubus to explain the madness of the universe


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