/wiz/ - Wizardry

>>197017
You can be drugs online Anon. You don't need to deal with normies.

>>197018
how to do without getting scammed

>>197017
Drugs are the dormain of the normie

>>197020
i just wanna take psychedelics in my dungeon

>>197017
What country are you in OP?

>>197022
My moneys on Holland.

I would use drugs If I could, but I’m poor neet and have no connections to get it.

>>197033
it really just depends on which country you live in
you can buy drugs with this new invention called the in-turn-nets I dunno if you've heard of it

Does your family has a history of mental illnes? If you answer is "yes", than I strongly advise to avoid drugs, they could trigger potential mental illnes.

I suggest to not get into anything if you have made it this far without it, there's just too much downsides to it, you could develop mental health problems or get hooked and I think a lot of guys on here are prone to addiction, if you actually get it from people in direct contact you might get ripped off or played otherwise as well

You can buy psilocybin spores online. I think the only thing that keeps me from trying to grow shrooms myself is I'm going to be alone and won't be able to calm down if I freak out. The first time I tried weed edibles it was intense and overwhelming, but it's not like I forgot I took edibles. I just got in bed and waited for the feeling to pass. Maybe I can do that with shrooms too, but I don't really know what to expect. It is something I want to try though. Anyone have experience doing that sort of thing solo?

>>197086
>Anyone have experience doing that sort of thing solo?

Yeah it was a ripoff. No matter which dosage of shrooms or LSD I took, I didn't really hallucinate. I begun seeing patterns and fractals in thins like the visual noise of my closed eyes, gravel on the road, and stratospheric clouds, but that was it for the visual effects. The mood change could by summed up by saying that the concept of other humans existing and being their own walking, thinking, imagining things just like me was for some reason really funny. I drove an industrial lawnmower and wanted to run over something and kill it so I drove in circles looking for anything that wasn't grass to obliterate. Maybe I got scammed. Maybe my huge girth immunizes me against such poisoning.

>I'm going to be alone and won't be able to calm down if I freak out.
Your unwarranted fear or doing something so drastic as to convince you that you should have someone there mediating is proof that you're too scared to bother trying. Your believe that you can do something dangerous will only becomes anxiety and then panic over the potential loss of control as the drugs take hold. You're already convinced you will cause harm so when you come under the influence, you will feel that a destructive act is the normal thing to do, and then do it. You fell for people using fear to scare you out of using mind-altering drugs.

I did shrooms and LSD a couple of years ago. After a number of incredible solo-trips it all went oooooooooooooooooops on acid and I suffered horrible PTSD with numerous mental health issues after. Took me about a year to mostly recover but I'm mentally scarred to this day. Easily the worst time of my life. I'd rather spend a year in a wheelchair than go through that hell again. It was enough suffering for a lifetime.

Just some personal input. I'm not advocating one way or the other. Psychs are absolutely mind-boggling. The experience is absolutely unfathomable to a sober state of mind. Can easily be the most incredible thing you'll ever do in your life. But a trip can go bad. The risk is relatively small but non-trivial. There are things you can do to mitigate the risk but ultimately the control you have over a trip is very limited, at least on medium to high doses.

Whatever you do OP
>>197017
>What if I was offered drugs at a music show?
Don't do this lol. Horrible idea for a number of reasons.

>>197033
There are plenty of online stores selling drug anologues, so called research chemicals. If you're in Europe you can order shrooms and salvia from the Netherlands, which is perfectly safe.
>>197086
>Anyone have experience doing that sort of thing solo?
I did all my shrooms alone (no friends, wizard style) and they all went great.

>but I don't really know what to expect
You can read hours and hours worth of trip reports on the internet but nothing can prepare you for the actual thing. You have no idea what you're getting in to. It's impossible to have an idea. It's an experience that goes beyond human comprehension.

>>197088
>you're too scared to bother trying.
It's perfectly normal to be scared. You'd have to be an actual schizo not to be. You're going to lose your mind and let go of the human experience you've been used to all your life, and potentially let go of everything that defines (You).

>Your believe that you can do something dangerous
This is extremely unlikely and really not a reason to be scared. You'll be unlikely to be in a state to do anything coherent in the first place. Tasks a simple as opening a bottle can prove impossible, going to the bathroom can be an adventure taking half an hour.
Trip going bad and fucking you up is the only major risk really.

>>197057
>get hooked
It's virtually impossible to get addicted to psychs fwiw.

>>197056
>they could trigger potential mental illnes
>trigger

cause

>>197019

Before doing all of these steps, check the laws in your country. Some countries in Asia can put you in Jail for many years for possession or even give you the death penalty like they do in Saudi Arabia for smuggling so don't fucking do it in those countries. In countries like mine, possession for personal consumption is perfectly legal (decriminalized for small amounts).

1. Install the TOR browser
2. Go to The Hidden Wiki and look for the market that is in fashion right now.
3. Look for a vendor with a good reputation on that market and buy the smallest amount possible to try it out.
4. If it's legal in your country, feel safe to use your real home address but a P.O. box is always better.

>>197091
>bad acid trip
What went wrong? Did you get thrown into a dimension of pain too? Lost your ego but not in a 'pleasant emptiness' kind of way? Saw devils in the darkness whose smiles promised agony eternal? Got cursed by despicable Moon? Felt the ugliness of flesh in all its pestilent glory?

>>197093
>What went wrong?
I don't remember much of the trip which is probably part of the coping mechanism. I felt okay during the trip itself though. Overwhelming at times but not bad a bad trip per se. I was notably calm after dropping the tabs, the come-up was comfy. During the comedown I felt horrible though and immediately noticed something must have gone terribly wrong but to this day I can't quite pinpoint what it was.

Notable moments I remember
>thinking about what LSD is until I became LSD itself with my mind being sucked into the remaining tabs on my desk
>witnessing myself not existing in a multi-dimensional experience of consciousness
>all of reality collapsing into a single point that was me

I had lots of flashbacks and nightmares of these moments during the days, weeks and months after. Horrible times. Writing and thinking about it still low-key triggers me.
The trip itself was overall #justacidthings though. That stuff's par for the course for a psychedelic trip but it fucked me up in a way previous trips didn't. Idk.

>>197094
>all of reality collapsing into a single point that was me

Ah, now i see. Had it too. It was during my second trip, which was semi bad. I had a terrifying peaking, started panicking, felt helpless, alone in the night, in the entire universe. Then it began to subside and a black dot appeared before my eyes to which everything was connected with lines - that dot was me, my cat, everything at once.
That is quite an experience, isn't it? To understand that everything and everyone in existence is actually your presence and that there is no other - just you alone. It wasn't that scary for me, because I've been interested in hinduism and buddhism, so I kinda had that understanding beforehand and seeing it in real life just confirmed my suspicions. But it was like being born anew. Never felt that way and probably never will.
I can understand why you felt the way you did, it is overwhelming.

I did it every two weeks for three months, had a plenty of interesting moments, but it was the deepest revelation out of my trips. I don't really have PTSD, but I suspect i have LSD psychosis. My belief system is kinda fucked up, filled with concepts I've experienced while tripping and sometimes it feels like i'm still seeing shit.

>>197019
>>197033
There are a ton of research chemicals you can get off the clearnet with crypto. They will ship it in a discreet package to your door with no human interaction needed whatsoever.

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Psychedelics are really good… good as in wholesome. They pull all the layers of your mind apart and let you analyze yourself in a loving but sometimes harsh way. I recommend mushrooms the first time - they are powerful but gentle, and tryptamines as a whole feel more guided than LSD. Order some from a dark net market or search for them at a music festival or something.

I'd really discourage wizards from doing hallucinogens with a strong 'mental' aspect like LSD. None of the drug positive sources seem to mention how easy it is to traumatize yourself on bad trips and I do mean traumatize. It doesn't matter how well you can control your emotions. The fact that you can't easily control the duration, intensity, or thoughts make it easy to be traumatized, and trauma is like burning a bad memory into your brain that you will constantly revisit. It's just not worth it.

>>197091
I've known normalfags that lost their jobs and fucked up their social lives after becoming paranoid wrecks due to one bad trip. I used to have very bad paranoia when I was a kid, after I was sneakattacked and nearly killed by a close female "family member" that had gone insane, and after my hospitalization it fucked me up for years, and was the main justification for my distrust and disdain for succubi. It wasn't until I was about 17 that a realization hit me on how irrational my fear was, and how I was letting evil fuck with me for no good reason, and stopped caring. Now I wouldn't say I'm immune to fear, but would someone with pre-existing trauma have a worse time on psychedelics than some schmo who's had a perfectly normal life up until they took drugs?

Drugs are fun, if you are american get delta 8, look up delta 8 disposable vape pen and get cheap legal weed for like 20 dollars a pen. I say try weed, dxm(cough syrup), xanax(works on GABA, better for you than alcohol unironically), soft opioids(kratom and pain pills but dont inject), psychadelics, nitrous, and MDMA. Avoid adderal, meth, dph/datura, inhalents, alcohol(alcohol is poison, bad for heart, liver, and brain)

>>197965
continuation, personally i prefer gambling to drugs, gambling is just so fun and you can decide what your risk is. with drugs you dont decide to put your lungs up every time you get high, but you damage them slowly, with gambling you can put up 1 dollar, 10, 100, etc, dont play lotto tickets, play street dice with people you know or sports betting on draftkings. casinos are fun too but its a trip to go there, if you go to a casino try out roulette, craps, blackjack, and horse races if they have them. Gambling can also solve your problems, with drugs the best you can get out of it is new knowledge or pleasure, while gambling you can get money which you can quit your job with.

>>197573
Wow that's pretty rough, but it sounds like you know you're a problem case going in to it. I've given LSD to countless people and I think only two cases stand out in my memory of people who had kind of a rough time with it and needed a bunch of time afterward to talk it through and think it over. Most people have some kind of fun or fascinating time, even if they're not motivated to try it again.

But obv they're going into it feeling safe that I know my way around and I'll take care of it if any shit happens.

>>197017
>But what about the pressure of losing your drug virginity?

There is no such peer pressure, specially in plain 2022. Most of us wizards are millenials or older. Younger generations are well informed of the dangers and consequences of drugs, statistics say gen Z's are less likely to abuse substances and I think that's a good thing.

I would not advice you to get into drugs. You're pointing out at "other" drug addicts. People like us wizards are the heaviest, most dangerous and difficult drug addicts. We have nothing to lose, we tend to be poor, we're mentally ill and we're suicidal most of the time. Those factors combined plus alcoholism or substance abuse are a recipe for homelessness and crime.

Addicion is not fun. Being hooked on opioids, benzos and hard liquor at the same time is not fun. Withdrawals are not fun. You have nothing to prove.

>but I still want to do it
Then just do it, no one is stopping you. No one here will stop you. Start soft, with weed. Don't jump straight into opioids or benzos. Experiment different highs to see what you like the most. Also, avoid stims, it's an anti-wizard drug, not surprisingly normies seem to enjoy stims more than downers.

>>197017
Every drug has the potential to be psychedelic. And they're all entheogens if you use them right. Just wanted to clarify that omitting groid drugs takes away a lot of exploration, but yeah sure if you're truly worried about becoming an addict because of your blood.. you don't have to sell your soul to snort a couple pins of heroin for a night.. but have you done it for 4 in a row you've certainly almost written that contract.
Honestly the off chance you lose your balls off psychedelics is more scary because it's not just immediately reversible through will power.

Really wiz bro just focus on this: nothing on the regular (if you gotta, then put a time interval where you're not going to use, like once a month max if all you're doing is LSD[even that often can get ya with something like LSD])
Cycle what drug you use.
Be comfy
Have fun
Use this shit to build yourself, you'd be such a huge nigger to just do it for the experience/to get high and nothing more. This shit WILL change you, and if all you do it for is le ebin rainbows and yahoos, imagine how you're wiring yourself up over time.
Don't expect it to be fun
And don't expect it to be comfy but make the most of it as in all things.
Last but not least treat it like a shamanic voyage a pilgrimage a journey this is development.

>>198036
any wizard who wants to do meth or crack should try it out, and not listen to this guy. upper addicts are always cast as the bad guy by downer addicts and vice versa. i recommend doing mdma at least once and crack too

>>198036
>Also, avoid stims, it's an anti-wizard drug, not surprisingly normies seem to enjoy stims more than downers.
I used to think this too. But I tried them and they are fine and very useful. Drugs are tools, truly like buff and de-buff potions for wizards.

>>198074
> truly like buff and de-buff potions for wizards.
Honestly preparing drugs feels so fun like you’re making a potion. Whenever I prepare my pipe I feel like I’m Gandalf.

>>198036
>weed
I'd rather OD on heroin than become an obnoxious pothead.

>>197986
Damn, I wish it was standard practice for every psychedelic drug purchase to come with a tripsitter, free of charge. I really want to try LSD or mushrooms, but I'm afraid I'll jump out of a window or cut my face off when left to my own devices. I don't usually interact with people, but when I do, I behave differently, since I obviously can't be my normal, vitriolic, strange self, when in public. I feel like if someone were to spectate my trip, my brain would "behave itself", and my subconscious mind wouldn't fuck with me as hard as it would, if it was just me in my room under the influence of psychedelics.

>>198100
Why does pot elicit such kneejerk reactions?

>>198105
Since it's been legalized everywhere, every normalfag and their mother now smokes "medical" marijuana, and pretends they smoke it to cure some type of social anxiety, when in reality any anxiousness they're experiencing is probably from the weed they're inhaling. Potheads act like they're exempt from the same laws as alcoholics, and pretend weed is safer than booze. They hotbox elevators and stink up entire street corners with the smell of deadskunk and ass. Also weed smokers never shut up about how they smoke weed, and how it's changed their lives. Imagine how annoying it would be if people that drank did the same thing. Personally speaking, I'm an aspie with extreme social anxiety, but I don't think shoving 5 or 10 blunts in my mouth will solve that problem, it'll just make me even more lazy and retarded than I already am.

>>198102
as someone who has taken psychedelics multiple times, it is the exact opposite (for me at least). Having another person there, or even the risk of that, makes everything 100x more challenging and more likely to end in some disaster. You obviously respect the drug and the risks it takes, so taking a reasonably small dose by yourself should be fine. The people who hurt themselves disrespect the drug and dont appreciate that it's a sensitive thing.

>I'm afraid I'll jump out of a window or cut my face off when left to my own devices
Incredibly unlikely, stop listening to propaganda

>>198122
sub-human IQ comment. Normies are obnoxious about anything and everything. You're not even neurotypical, you dont know how it will affect you, and you could miss out on something amazing buy never even trying it

>>198124
Am I really missing out something "amazing", or are you just a living example of the types of weed smokers I generalized? I know with high doses you can experience something 'more', but honestly I'd rather just skip a potential weed phase and jump straight to mushrooms. Anyhow, thanks for calling me subhuman because I choose not to ingest tetrahydrocannegronal

>>198127
the logic was subhuman, not you as a person. Sometimes i do bad reasoning too.

>Am I really missing out something "amazing",
it depends on the person and specifics of the situation. Without trying it you'll never know. My personal experience is irrelevant. Some people have amazing experience from it, so why not try it?
Nothing wrong with going straight to mushrooms.

>>198128
I'm gonna level with you weedwiz. I had a chance to do weed once with my uncle as a kid, but my mom found out last minute and forbade it, which was kind of a dickmove on her part, since she used to smoke weed with my step brother, who was around the same age (I was 17); but I didn't care much, since I was never interested in pot. I'm a working wiz, and I haven't be employed very long. I'm honestly afraid that if I smoke weed now, I might get addicted (addiction runs in the fam) and it'll kill my productivity, or turn me into a mindless weed zombie that can't even function without being high. Not too long ago, my 12 yr old step sister stole candy edibles out of her mom's purse (she says she thought it was regular candy), and downed every single one of those fuckers. Not too long after, she realized what she had done, and called an ambulance herself. I haven't asked her about it out of kindness, but I wonder what type of trippy psychosis shit happened to her before the ambulance arrived. Kinda makes me jealous that someone so young could get high like that.

>>198130
Thats selfrighteus normalfags for you, they are most inhuman type of them.

I recommend against it. Life is all the "trip" you need. Spent my teens and early 20's doing all sorts of drugs and it was all for nothing and now I'm mentally ill. If you have addiction problems if your family especially don't do drugs

>>198143
I can't stand the 'moral' normalfaggots the most. Can't have anything good because of them.

sheltered tards think schizophrenia is the worst thing that can happen to their boring half-normie lives
>this picture literally causes people here to shake in anger

I don't mess with drugs but weed is so great so I guess I mess with that. Don't know why people hate, theres virtually no health effects and getting high or stoned after a long day is perfect, if you haven't been stoned after a long day you really don't know what youre talking about.

ever since kirtaner got sent to big boy rape prison i sure have missed bump while intoxicated threads. bump while drunk hate all you

>>198345
Did he really? I thought he was just some faggot deadbeat loser that abandoned his site for years, then came back to impress reddit and the e-tabloids with his uber justice haxxtivism, then spent the last of his money on painkillers, thusly shutting down 420chan since he couldn't pay the server bills.

>>198625
idk i was hopping for the worst but thats probably more practical

take soma, dumb yourself down and step on the treadmill watching marvel movies and waiting for AAA video game titles like all your normie peers. This is living!

>>198627
neighbor what the fuck are u talking about??

>>198628
it makes sense with weed?

I love drugs. I only live for my next high. I am not ashamed to say it either. Being straight edge didn't get me anywhere.

>>198629
i was too high to understand

>>198631
based. if you aren't getting dopamine normally, there is nothing wrong with getting it chemically.

>>197091
Can shrooms permanently lower anxiety, fear, inhibition?

>>200924
Possibly. LSD killed my major OCD obsessions, gave me drive to improve things, at least, when I had it and was looking forward to another trip. There is still anxiety but the main thing I dreaded for so long is gone and good riddance. Just don't take it when you feel like shit, it is gonna make things worse.

>>200925
Is it possible that it could make you supress some unpleasant memories?

>>200930
Quite the opposite. You will see and feel everything you had been suppressing, suppression will be impossible.
However, you may be able to sort shit out by facing those memories head on. I saw some shit too, but now I feel better.
Just be sure about set and setting.

>>198631
>I only live for my next high. I am not ashamed to say it either.
You should be. That's pathetic.

>>198219
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>198631
Good addict! (:

i quit smoking to vape
quit vaping because i dont have an income and it is a waste of money
i miss it but it's nice expeeiencing vanilla reality not on drugs or alcohol. boring but nice

>>197017
No self-respecting person uses drugs, those are things for losers.

>>201377
Kek, shut up you fucking nerd.

>>201378
jews fear the truth

I took 75mg edibles last night and they never kicked in
All i got was a slight buzz as i jerked off for a couple hours
What do you guys think? Bad batch or rebranded cbd?

>>197017
Go to a pill mill and get prescribed drugs. You'll know 100% the drugs you're getting are pure and legal, and that you'll have a steady supply.
>>201374
>drugs or alcohol
Alcohol is a drug, you silly nigger.