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 No.203113[Last 50 Posts]

https://www.outofservice.com/bigfive/

Post your Big Five personality test results, wizbros. I bet many wizards here have high neuroticism.

 No.203115

>>203113
I'm high neuro and agreeability

 No.203116

>Take this psychology test to find out about your personality!

no

 No.203117

hurr durrr to be a wiz you must be unemployed

 No.203119

>>203117
What the fuck are you going on about? Are a schizo?

 No.203120

>>203113
I only disliked this to tell me that I'm disorganized. I know why.
>And I don't feel to change this at all
>It is a very basic test, we rizzards could surely put a better one and actually based around the "knnow thy normalfag" meme

 No.203121

>>203119
Is it forbidden, here?
>posting here is schizo, just saying

 No.203122

>>203121
>>203121
In the context of the thread what you're saying doesn't make any sense, you sound like a schizo rambling about some schizo shit.

 No.203126

>>203119
>>203122
you didn't even read the picture buddy

 No.203127

>>203126
The thread It's not about the picture, it's about the big five testm

 No.203128

>>203127
It is an interesting picture, isn't it?
I'm an ENTP btw.

 No.203130

>>203128
>Mayer Briggs test

Literal bullshit test, like horoscope.

 No.203134

>Post your Big Five personality test results, wizbros
No
/R9K/ go away back to shitchan.

 No.203138

>>203134
>/R9k/
>big five

Dumbass, those /r9k/ dudes like to post their mayer Briggs horoscope tests, you lack wit.

 No.203139

wtf is this shit

 No.203165

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This is now an MBTI thread.

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 No.203169

not in the mood to take this gay test right now, but every time i have taken one like this i basically maxed out on neuroticism.

 No.203170

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 No.203171

>>203165
>>203167
Get out with this shitty ass horoscope teste from here, go back to /r9k/ with you bullshit feel good teste.

 No.203174

>>203171
Can't do, until proofs of your taste's superiority are presented.

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 No.203180

>>203174
>>203177
>>203167
>>203165

>Despite its popularity, it has been widely regarded as pseudoscience by the scientific community.[1][2][3] The validity (statistical validity and test validity) of the MBTI as a psychometric instrument has been the subject of much criticism. Media reports have called the test "pretty much meaningless",[60] and "one of the worst personality tests in existence",[61]. The psychologist Adam Grant is especially vocal against MBTI. He called it "the fad that won't die" in the Psychology Today article.[11] Psychometric specialist Robert Hogan wrote: "Most personality psychologists regard the MBTI as little more than an elaborate Chinese fortune cookie…"[62]



Imagine taking seriously a nu horoscope from a grifter succubi, kek.

 No.203181

>>203180
the fact Jung's reputation isn't in tatters really amazes me

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 No.203201

>mbti schizo spamming his shitty fortune cookie test

New schizo just dropped.

 No.203204

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>>203201
You don't like MBTI, my dood? Its really not as complicated as you might think.

 No.203206

>>203189
ENTP, that's me.

 No.203207

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 No.203261

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Am I wrong if thinking that most of us wizards are INFJ and INTP?

 No.203263

>>203261
I'm ISTJ but i'd rather read or watch something (I already have a cat). I dislike shopping, especially for clothes.

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>>203261
I'm doubtful about INFJs, but INTPs do have a natural affinity to magic…

 No.203328

It says I'm closed-minded, I like to think that's not true.
I would addept it and say ok I'm closed-minded but it's just a handful of questions and a few blan&white stats so I guess it's just some teen-magazine tier test.

 No.203333

>>203328
One shouldn't build one's identity around one's MBTI type, it only describes human's mechanical part. There is an "NPC" in all of us, consider MBTI as an NPC classificator, it doesn't give a picture of the most essential part of a human, part that's usually underdeveloped and goes to sleep in one's youth.

 No.203356

I think MBTI is one of the more trustworthy tests out there. You can hardly find someone who is more critical of psychology and these tests than me but out of all the bullshit heap of tests I consider this one the most decent. Regardless of when, in what mood or in what form I take this test the results tend to be consistent.

The only change I had was when I had a really big, life-turning change happen to me. I went from being depressed to being ok. During my depressed years I always got INTP, now I get INTJ always since I beat depression. I can understand this though. The cure for my depression was that I needed plans, self-discipline and daily routines so it's logical my personality type changed to INTJ (which might have been my original personality pre-depression anyway).

>>203261
>INFJ
No, my classmate in high school was a huge normalfag and he got INFJ. He played football, went to concerts, was popular, etc etc. He was just slightly more intellectual than the rest of the norms. I don't trust INFJs.

>INTP

Definitely wiz-core. I believe INTP and INTJ are the most wizardly ones. Don't trust anyone with an E or F who claims to be a wiz. INTP/J are the autism types, dunno about personality types with S in them.

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>>203356
Does this INTJ stance adds excitement to your life or simply lifts depression away?

>INTP here, but still feeling that plans need objectives and I have no stimulus about it. Like routines are an incomplete cope, an unfinished cake in need for some cherry at the top


>Indeed, E and F types are un-wiz.

 No.203367

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They [INTPs] are flawlessly intelligent and exceptional at anything and everything. They are the deepest, and most complex MBTI type, Their thoughts are so incredibly superior, transcendent, so beyond anything any other type is capable of that it only makes sense that they're the ones who usually end up revolutionizing humanity. They have no emotions and minimal empathy but can read people effortlessly; we're all such simple, pathetic creatures compared to them, we're nothing. They are pinnacles of mental strength, able to brush off trauma with reason like no one else can. They lack the animal instincts that other humans have, with no need for relationships, no need to fit in or feel accepted, no awareness or feelings of competition (what do gods want with ants, anyway?) and easy denial of their body - and most happen to be quite attractive, almost like laughing in the face of nature. They have perfect discipline and rationality, and never fall prey to any bias or fallacy that other, weak, emotional, stupid humans do. Some of this also results in a perfect morality, that only this type can maintain through their natural adherence to principles, making them morally superior as well as intellectually, humanistically, and emotionally superior. Humanistically superior - by which I mean that INTPs desire nothing for themselves but are perfectly humble and only seek to bring us up to their level of thinking, to challenge our meager intellects and perfect us in their own image. With such nobility, is it any wonder people are so fascinated by this type, in ways no other type can intrigue the masses?

 No.203368

>>203356
I've done the MBTI test a few times, and I mostly get INTJ, sometimes a INTP and there's one specific site that gives me an S instead of a T (INFP or something), which doesn't strike me as very reliable. Either way, I am supposed to be an INTJ addording to most tests, yet I don't even remember what that is supposed to say about me, other than the obvious. It is often portrayed as some sort of logical mastermind who manipulates people and situations to their will, and that is completely unlike me.
I do remember that, much like horoscopes, I could relate to half of what it said, and not at all with the rest.

Then you get people going "ooooh I'm an INTJ", no, you're a retard. (not you wiz)

 No.203369

>>203367
awww, so sweet, thank you

 No.203370

>>203369
It's from quora.
>>203356
How is being an S type not peak normalfag?

 No.203376

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 No.203377

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 No.203382

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>>203370
ISTP. Maybe many of them normies, but chances are some of them aren't.
>ISTP = sigma

>>203368
Ok wiz, here you are. The easier, more direct test.
>yet you don't need a test if you actually know the meaning of every letter in depth.
nonetheless the only valuble usage all this knowledge is concentrated in two spots:
-The "hero, parent, trickster" roles of your less developed cognitive functions and what you need to do compensate your "demon" and "trickster" functions to stop receiving damage from them when they contact you in this world
-To find your tribe, your similars, for they will know as no one else how to do so and many other things to properly use the rest of your qualities.
>"INTP Survival Guide" in youtube is a perfect example of this.

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>>203377
Every function has some role or other, depending on your class.
So, that's the usage. To know what to expect, to do, to never do, due to being weak at those spots.

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>>203382
>>203382
Regarding your image: i know its simplified to the point of being anecdotal, but i think its worth mentioning that the variables presented there are too specific to be reliable indicators, for example, systems oriented thinking doesn't necessarily always manifest itself as being good at math, that being said F types are unlikely to be naturally gifted in it.

 No.203408

>>203358
>Does this INTJ stance adds excitement to your life or simply lifts depression away?
It's simply about order and routine for me. When I was a lazy, passive and chaotic person (INTP) I was more likely to be depressed, after adopting a more orderly lifestyle the depression went away.

It isn't exactly excitement but discipline works for me. I will do this and this today - even if I don't feel like it - because I decided I would do so yesterday. And in the end I didn't waste my day away, that's what counts to me. I also keep lists of books/manga/comics/wiki articles I read, porn/movies/anime/cartoons/TV shows I watched, games I played, etc etc. Introducing some sort of order into your life can change it for the better in my experience.

>>203368
>It is often portrayed as some sort of logical mastermind who manipulates people and situations to their will
That is a misunderstanding because what you describe sounds more like ENTJ or ENTP. Personality types which are introverted can't be expert manipulators. From what I gather, INTJ and INTP are both autismo/burger types. So they are the essential thinker or wanna-be philosopher category. The only difference between INTP and INTJ is that INTP mostly waste their time browsing chans and masturbating all day while INTJ thanks to his self-discipline has a strict daily routine. INTP is lazy/passive/inactive, INTJ is active and a control freak who feels bad whenever he can't proceed according to his plans. In short INTP is the ditzy mad scientist whose thoughts and attention span are all over the place - but his awesome abilities lie exactly in his chaotic nature. The INTJ is the focused and goal oriented thinker.

INTJ is the meme type, and every retard normalfag likes to think he is some INTJ snowflake. (While most likely he isn't, he just read about the types before taking the test and took the test with the intention of getting INTJ as a result so that he can brag about how much of a Sherlock he is.) INTJ is supposed to be a rare type, probably INTP too so don't believe every norm who claims to be one of those.

>>203370
I think E or F has more to do with being a normalfag than the S factor. The most normalfag type is probably ESFJ though and I have no idea about this personality type, never read about it, just made a wild guess. Can anyone confirm this?

>>203376
This actually confused me because the ENTP's "creates by debating" and "argues every little point" are things I can relate to very much.

 No.203412

>>203382
What if I really like math but I'm shit at it?
What if my room is, for the most part, clean, but I have a messy desk?
INF* then, I guess I'm actually normalscum :^)

 No.203417

Its funny how people mock astrology birthcharts when they're like 200% more accurate and detailed than any personality test. Its ancient knowledge, and it used to be reserved only for high status people. I have no clue why succubi and normies are now obsessed with astrology nowdays. It was not like that back then. Now men are mocked If they are inrerested in astrology. Life is funny.

 No.203423

>>203417
the astrology you speak of and what passes as astrology today are different things.

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 No.203435

these tests are pretty worthless beyond a certain age and having taken them before. they also often make assumptions based on your test result which is as bullshit as astrology

 No.203448

People that compare horoscopes with psychological tests kinda fascinate me, unlike in case with the flat-earthers, i can't tell if they're trolling.

 No.203454

>>203448
For sure. Astrology has been practiced since the dawn of man by all major civilizations throughout the history. Comparing that to some bullshit labels invented not even a century ago yet, by some succubus who had nothing better to do.

 No.203456

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>>203454
>practiced since the dawn of man by all major civilizations throughout history
Please read this statement exceptionally closely for a fascinating thought

 No.203457

>>203454
How come twins can have different fates despite being born at the same hour?

 No.203460

>>203457
Not at the same moment, even a minute can make a difference.

 No.203461

>>203460
Then where is the merit in horoscopes?

 No.203465

>>203454
>tfw Aquarius Ascendant, Virgo Sun and Aries Moon
I never had a chance.

 No.203467

>>203465
>I never had a chance.
This is by far the most common result of believing in Astrology. Impressionable, desperate young guys and succubi read up on what types or personalities they should have based on what stars their mother could see on the date she gave birth, figure that because its an old and documented practice it must be true, find out that they're not who they're told they should be, and then believe that they are wrong and broken before even considering that maybe the children's fantasy activity book that is Astrology is what is wrong.

Astrology is for bored SSRI junkies who need something to think about and affirm themselves. Horoscopes in newspapers and online newsletters are funded and written by scratch-and-win ticket manufacturers and local lotteries. Crazy coincidence.

 No.203478

>>203417
>>203454
Astrology and psychology are both bullshit "fields of study". Still, psychology at least has some valid observations but what can you say about astrology? It's a foolish superstition for succubi and children. Just because something is ancient that doesn't mean it is right in any way.

>>203377
>>203207
You have these pics for INTJ and ENTJ too?

>>203467
Some people are just really desperate to understand why they are making some really shit choices in life. Instead of look for the cause in themselves through psychology and introspection they start to look for causes in the universe and the world around them. Sad.

 No.203492

>>203467
>>203478
>astrology is fake
ok hylics

 No.203493

>>203492
The biggest proof that astrology is fake(and dumb) is that succubi are into it.

 No.203494

>>203478
>You have these pics for INTJ and ENTJ too?
I'll have to check once i get back to my pc, but it won't be until weekend.

 No.203504

Is the MBTI supposed to constantly change over the lifetime? Because I feel like it's also more of a represention of your world views rather than just about personality. Or perhaps worldview is part of your personality?
Every two years or so I did the test and these are my results: When I still took my ad(h)d meds I was ENTP, when I stopped taking the meds, dropped out of school and lived the neet life for two years I was INTJ and after I started working in a social field I became INFJ.
I don't think personality is something constant in your life and it can change quite a bit, willfully or not, or perhaps those tests are bullshit. Anyway, I wouldn't take them super seriously.

 No.203512

>>203493
Well, succubi are into lots of things, including psychology. Like I said though, psychology has some cool ideas and concepts, most of them can be traced back to Freud and Jung basically, in my view Freud is getting the cold treatment nowadays even though he was pretty much down to earth and a realist while Jung's work is overrated thanks to trendy currents of thought, like eastern religions.
Back to astrology though, it is objectively for mentally retarded people (which include the majority of succs).

>>203494
Thanks, wiz.

>>203504
I'm not sure, I think it is supposed to change whenever something big happens in your life. Worldviews are definitely a part of our personality, they tell almost everything about a person.

I would disregard the period when you took meds, meds change your personality drastically (that's their whole purpose) and you can act completely out of character when under the influence of them. I would also say that your NEETing period can be disregarded too, considering people who are alone for a long time tend to get confused about who they really are. It's natural, when you don't receive much feedback from others then things get blurry. So I'd say your type is most likely INFJ, probably it's been your type all along but you never realized it or never had a chance to fully develop your personality until recently. So instead of saying your personality changed it's more likely that you been starting to realize who you are only recently.

I believe personality can be changed to a great degree through your effort or through outside influences but there are some traits that always stay with you, there is a core personality inside every one of us and that's permanent. It's probably a very raw core, only having a couple of dogmas like "I don't want to hurt animals if I can avoid it" in my case is just part of my personality and that will never change. Other "dogmas" I have is that I hate physically active things like working out or manual labor. I'd say 80% of our personality can be molded and shaped but 20% is something permanent that you or others can't change no matter what.

 No.203514

>>203512
Do you think that therapy could be beneficial for a wizard?

 No.203517

>>203504
In theory the type itself shouldnt change. MBTI on a lower level is based on a theory about 'functions' such as 'introverted intuition', 'introverted sensing', etc. For each type it is expected that at different ages or stages of your life you will get stronger at specific functions, so their dominance can change.

 No.203525

>>203504
>>203512
>>203517
It's been almost two years, so I did the test again and, thinking that I would be INFJ again, I was actually pleasantly surprised that I was INTJ-T, which I much more strongly identify with.
Looking back on my past and what has changed in my life, those results check out. The change from ENTP to INTJ is obvious: The amphetamines made me more outgoing and impulsive. Also the results for the first and fourth trait were on the edge anyway with being around 50% each whereas the defining second and third trait where around 70% this time.
I think what made me an INFJ when I started working in a social field was that this first work experience of mine made a big impression on me, since with no prior experience I had to learn, well, all those social aspects, like getting along with coworkers and clients, considering their feelings, having to deal with emotional conflicts and so on. So I rated the emotional aspects back then im my test much higher than I would have normally done, because at the time it really was very important to me. But now, after working for almost two years, it has all become just my normal everyday life, so it doesn't have that pressing importance to me anymore.
I would still say that your personality isn't rigid, but oscillating around a centre, depending on the situation. I don't know a whole lot about that topic, so those are just educated guesses based on my experiences and that particular model of personality.

 No.203536

>>203525
I always liked things like the chinese horoscope or tarot cards and I like that my results in this test say that I have a rare and powerful personality type, it feels having a powerful secret rare Yu-Gi-Oh card and it makes me feel real special.
It's fun to think about things like that and I believe that by thinking about it you get to know yourself better, that's why people are doing those things since ancient times.
This test seems to be somewhat consistent and is right about some things, but it's actually not of any use except for what I have mentioned above. After thinking about it I came to that conclusion.
Tomorrow I want to learn more about models of personality, to finally understand what's that all about.

 No.203538

>>203514
Depends on who is the guy treating you. If he is a wizardly person or at least someone who is open-minded then it could help you…for example I think Jung or Freud would have found us intriguing persons. That said, most psychiatrists or psychologists nowadays aren't Jung or Freud or even near their level. Every retard can be a psychiatrist or psychologist as long as he can finish uni…and god have mercy on your soul if you actually fell into the care of succ psychiatrists. As things are, you will most likely get into the hands of Chad Jr. or Dr. Dumb Whore and will end up getting more fucked up than you were pre-therapy.

Short answer: if you can get a guy who can actually think for himself to treat you then go for it by all means. Sadly, these people are most likely either famous experts who cost a ton of money or they are outsiders in the psychology/psychiatry circlejerk and are so hard to find that you have zero chance.
I'm of the opinion that psychiatry and psychology got more and more retarded as time went on and as it became a "proper" field of study. If you look at Freud he was more like a sage or philosopher than a psychiatrist in our meaning of the word.

I know people joke about jewish psychiatrists all the time and it's a meme but they are the real deal. They have incredibly interesting insights into the human condition and mind plus they have a tendency to think outside the box and so they are more open-minded.

>>203525
>INTJ pride
How does it feel to be in the same category as Prof Moriarty, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Elon Musk again? I think wizards who get F in their test somehow made mistakes. The wiz type is the NT.

>>203536
Instead of taking the test I think it's just better to read the descriptions for all the variations and decide what resonates best with you. There isn't a more interesting topic than ourselves, right?

 No.203595

>>203538
I tried a few succ therapists but it never ended up going anywhere until I found a paraplegic guy therapist. It's rather funny when you think that a guy with broken mind and healthy body goes to see a therapist who has very sharp brain but a broken body.

 No.203601

>>203595
i would watch that animated show, of a braniac cripple and his partner the mentally ill body builder

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>>203478
>ignoring astrology as an actually demonstrated set of noticeable coincidences
>muh succubi are into it, muh better than succubi (cope cope cope cope cope cope)
Give up

>>203536
There. That's the mindset!

 No.203625

>>203621
JFC, I get it, you're REALLY into psychological categorization and profiles.

 No.203626

>>203625
sage the retard

 No.203629

>"The interesting – and somewhat alarming – fact about the MBTI is that, despite its popularity, it has been subject to sustained criticism by professional psychologists for over three decades. One problem is that it displays what statisticians call low "test-retest reliability." So if you retake the test after only a five-week gap, there's around a 50% chance that you will fall into a different personality category compared to the first time you took the test. A second criticism is that the MBTI mistakenly assumes that personality falls into mutually exclusive categories. … The consequence is that the scores of two people labelled "introverted" and "extraverted" may be almost exactly the same, but they could be placed into different categories since they fall on either side of an imaginary dividing line."

Lmao, imagine take seriously this shitty MBTI test that no real psychologist take serious or thinks is useful. People are truly desparte to find some kind of personality for themselves. Imagine saying "Ah, yeah, I'm INTJ!" is literally in the same level as people that take horoscope for real, "Ah, yeah! I'm a virgo, tee hee". KEk

 No.203631

>>203629
>no real psychologist takes it seriously
It just comes from Jungian psychology, maybe that's not much of a psychologist for you I guess
>still thinking astrology is the same as horoscopes
You stink like normie, brat

 No.203632

>>203631
Why you reply to obvious bait? He is obviously trying to call attention.

 No.203633

>>203629
>The division between introvert and extrovert is imaginary
The lunacy some trolls fall into while trying hard is reaching quite a top, lastly.
Which drugs are you on? You still know this is an outcast-oriented forum, right?

 No.203634

>>203632
He never gets tired so at least I make fun of him.
>more memes please

 No.203641

>>203634
>i am replying to bate because i am a comedian
no youre a retard

 No.203654

>>203632
>>203632
>Nooo, you can you poin out that my shitty MBTI test is useless and don't any prediction power at all! like a horoscope! How you dare! I'm a ENTP!, Like pisces, I'm smart and intuitive, you can't just simple show that my made up fake personality is fake!

 No.203664

>>203457
>twins having different fates
They might count as one

 No.203665

You should see r/NEET, a poll showed intp and infp being majority

 No.203666

>>203665
That sub is a bit disappointing. I was expecting something like Wizardchan with the typical normalfag Reddit stuff but still a solid NEET culture. Ended up finding most of the users there are just regular wagies who lost their job or are actively looking for employment.

 No.203668

>>203665
that subreddit is filled with females and normalfags
you should ignore it

 No.203672

>>203621
You really don't see a problem with something that is extremely popular with females? Because to me it tells a lot about the subject. Females are easily impressed, prone to hysterics and superstitions and love romantic interpretations which have nothing to do with reality. Not to mention they possess subhuman intellect.

>>203629
>"test-retest reliability."
It has way more of this than other psychological tests. I always get the same results for decades. Try harder.
>A second criticism is that the MBTI mistakenly assumes that personality falls into mutually exclusive categories. …
Every psychological test categorizes people, that's the whole fucking point.

>>203633
You can be an extrovert though and still be a wizard. I get ENTJ always and I'm a wiz NEET. Extrovert just pretty much means you are talkative and like to discuss shit/like to take the initiative, not that you are popular or well-liked by any means.

>>203665
NT is the wiz tier group. The rest I'm suspicious of.

 No.203677

HEY GUYS, DID YOU KNOW MOST WIZARDS ARE INTJ?!?!

INTJ U GUISE. WHOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAA, INTJ!!!!!!!!

 No.203690

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 No.203706

>>203690
Jesus, imagining take this seriously, extremely cringe, borderline like succubi with her horoscope

 No.203716

>>203706
>borderline like succubi with her horoscope
Ahhh, you've helped me describe exactly what I don't like about all of this.

 No.203717

>>203716
Yes, to generalize it (NTAYRT) is that men should externalize and internalize their loci of control, and succubi do the opposite. So looking to whitecoats to classify you is inherently feminine or emasculating. Men know who they are, and if they don't they have to go through their trials and tribulations.

 No.203718

>>203716
>>203717
*externalize their actions

 No.203720

>>203717
>Men know who they are
What are you then?

 No.203721

>>203720
My name is John Doe, DOB is 01/01/1950. Who are you, sir?

 No.203722

>>203721
My point is that, if you simply shared a result of some psychological test, it would serve better to describe you as a person than your personal data, is should be obvious that there is merit in psychological profiling and classification of minds.

 No.203723

>>203722
No it would not, because a man is a multitude and these head shrinkers have no statistical or scientific basis for these data gathering horoscope ideas.

 No.203724

>>203722
the obvious merit needs evidence, otherwise its just another shuckster trying to get one over you

 No.203725

>>203723
You don't like the feeling of being put in a box and that's understandable, you are sensitive, but it has nothing to do with the usefulness of a tool.

>>203724
Are you asking for obvious evidence that minds can be classified or obvious evidence that such information can be applied for personal gain?

 No.203730

>>203725
no the obvious evidence that MBTI is an accurate
>psychological profiling and classification of minds

 No.203731

>>203725
lol
I dont like the idea of being put into a box? No, I don't mind it, I just pity the fool who needs a box to guide them, when they are men.

 No.203732

>>203730
Its somewhat consistent, got a better system? Things don't have to be 100% precise to be useful.

>>203731
Do you also pity fools who use toilet paper, when they are men? Not using tools is a virtue now?

 No.203736

>>203732
Yes, existentialism is a better system, christianity is a better system, buddhism is a better system, frankly anything that puts the center of control back in the heart and minds of men is better, but this white coat, head shrinker shit, is bad for us. Frankly any system that reminds you of your potential, your individuality, and your uniqueness is better than that dog trash MKUltra brain washing bull shit

>>203731
Some tools obviously hurt us, read Uncle Ted. Toilet paper may not be one, necessarily, but its on each individual (man) to decide for himself which tools harm him. Many tools are inherently harmful, and without that inherent ability to cause harm, would lack the ability to preform their tool duties.

 No.203739

>>203736
I know that MBTI is harmful for the conventional, mechanical minds of mundanes, because they adapt it as part of their identity and use it as substitute for spiritual development, but we are big boys here, no need to be so sensitive.

 No.203740

>>203739
hmm, and what makes it not harmful to us here?

 No.203741

>>203739
if anything I'd say its proportionally more harmful to wizards, so you must be a normalfag if you can tolerate the harm of MBTI

 No.203743

>>203742
>MBTI lets you sail
I actually do sail, and I think you're a faggot who probably doesnt

 No.203746

>>203740
>>203741
Such fragile vessels of knowledge you are and you dare consider yourselves wizardly? Excuse me while i sail the forbidden seas.

>>203743
Bot.

 No.203747

>>203746
>>203746
lol nothing about me is a bot, friend

 No.203763

>>203177
I am yet to see an overweight INTP, i am beginning to wonder if fat INTPs even exist.

 No.203835

>>203717
>Men know who they are
You mean drooling retard npcs who never question their identities or self know who they are? Being overly confident of oneself is usually a sign of low intellectual talents.

>and if they don't they have to go through their trials and tribulations

As if trials and tribulations alone are enough for anything, yeah, right. How does a man who is forced to work in Auschwitz tier conditions learn about himself or his personality? Trials don't help you, insight and knowledge help you.

>>203736
>existentialism
You are doing what Nietzsche or other existentialists told you to do.
>christianity is a better system
You are doing what your local priest or minister or some theologian told you to do.
>buddhism is a better system
You are doing what some guru told you to do.

You are being very "special snowflake" here, friend.
>Frankly any system that reminds you of your potential, your individuality, and your uniqueness is better
Potential, individuality, uniqueness, all right…Who is the succubus here actually? You fell for such meme shit as believing everyone possess special super powers and everyone is de unique spezial snowflake.

Being free, being an "individual", being "unique", there are no bigger succubus-worthy memes than these.

>>203763
I'm INTJ and I look like that fat guy posted for the INTP category.

 No.203837

>>203835
>How does a man who is forced to work in Auschwitz tier conditions learn about himself or his personality?
Victor Frankls Will to Meaning explains this well. You are seemingly trying to grind an axe, so I wont keep trying to explain why you're limp spine weakling.

>Potential, individuality, uniqueness, are for succubi

Ah so we have an expert on succubi? I'm sure you have a fond respect and knowledge of the inner workings of succubi, but no, they are not unique, they lack the type of in-the-world potential I am referring to. We're all unique though.

And yes, if succubi are validating your 'individual' 'uniqueness' then you be assured that you aren't some small weak nerd, of course, the wizardly thing is to disregard females and acquire skills (or complain all day, same thing, here, right excuse-anon?)

 No.203844

>>203837
>Victor Frankls Will to Meaning
Frankl was a fraudster, a liar, who has never been rollercostered to death in Auswitz, no one was. His books are nothing but bullcrap built on the fundament of falseness.

 No.203845

>>203844
I doubt you're the same anon, because if the holofake was fake, then why would he use it as an excuse for how trials and tribulations don't impact our identity.

 No.203882

>>203736
>existentialism is a better system, christianity is a better system, buddhism is a better system, frankly anything that puts the center of control back in the heart and minds of men is better
You are confusing science with religion, MBTI doesn't require blind faith, just observation. Stop taking things that you don't understand religiously, don't be trigger happy to form opinions, just accept that you don't know something until you do know, there is no shame in not knowing.

 No.203897

>>203882
MBTI has flimsier evidence than most things in the social "science" realm, it is a religion. It's believed in despite the lack of evidence, like teaching styles.

 No.203900

>this shitty /r9k/ MBTI pseudoscience still up

Those niggas can't stop spewing their shitty horoscope?

 No.203920

>>203900
Better than whatever it is you believe in

 No.203924

>>203920
>believe in MBTI
I don't believe in anything worse than you, retard

 No.203939

>>203897
>It's believed in despite the lack of evidence
But that's the thing, no one is telling you to be like them. Don't take things religiously, its not a matter of believing, unless you're a flat-earther tier schizo.
You can categorize personalities with it, that's it, or perhaps you don't believe in personalities also?

 No.203940

>>203939
Yes, I don't believe in stable personalities.

 No.203953

>>203940
Get real, if you could just change your personality you would have friends. Anyway, personalities do change, testing shows how much and in what way one's personality fluctuates.

 No.203954

>>203953
According to MBTI, I have changed my personality.

 No.203955

>>203953
Even my OCEAN scores have changed over time, but I find that to be a slightly better model.

 No.203958

how are we holding up Virgobros?

 No.203960

Wtf

 No.203966

wow according to mbti im gonna become albert einstein

 No.203967

>>203837
>Victor F
>you have unlimited potential
>you are special
>you are an individual

Yes, thank you, this is what I meant by you being succubus-core. You talk shit about people here for using mbti because that's what "succubi do" according to you but meanwhile you are the one believing in all the magic words and terms succubi like so much.

 No.203976

>>203900
>But the troll still ridiculizes himself by claiming consensually proven data to be beliefs.

*sigh*

 No.204135

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>>203113
Myers-Briggs felt more accurate, but all of these are on the right side of accuracy.

 No.204139

I can't believe wizardchan believes in mbti…

 No.204162

>>204139
this thread is so retarded i'm considering never coming back here

 No.204165

>>204135
damn i'm the opposite of you in everything but introverted/disagreeableness. wonder what that would manifest as if you compared our lives directly

 No.204192

>>204139
Give up already.

 No.204193

The most useful thing I found about mbti is that your own type are the ones who can give you the life advices you need. When mature, of course

 No.204680

I will try to explain my personality by reflecting about my actions and what others have said about myself Instead of doing a test.
I am a highly sensitive person and family members always told me that I should be more "thick skinned". I can't sleep when there is the slightest disturbance, I get emotionally affected very quickly by words and interpersonal relationships and conflicts, for me the meals always taste too salty when they cook it and I can absolutely not stand perfumes or fabric softeners in the slightest, the smells feel like an intrusion, an foreign object. I do enjoy a good company and I love my family, but maintaining a relationship outside my family feels so exhausting to me that I rarely even meet up with the few acquaintances I have (which is probably why I am a Wizardapprentice).
I feel very intense emotions but at the same time I am very inhibited when it comes to negative emotions like showing anger or sadness. It sometimes feels like a lid, and especially when I am tired and stressed I can become quite explosive, but in a setting outside of my family I am inhibited enough to not be reckless.
If some confrontation arises and I am not shure who's at fault I always look at myself first for faults, only when I am shure of my guiltlessness I will argue back. It makes what I have to say thorough but I also need some time to think, so in those situations, I can't counter attack fast.
But all those characteristics also have their good sides. I am a perceptive person that finds much enjoyment in art and who likes to be creative himself, I especially enjoy drawing in my free time.
All in all I would say that I am a happy person who likes to think a lot or, better put, who can't help himself but to think a lot.

 No.204862

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The only things I can tell that this quiz got right is that I'm shy.
Idk, the results vary so much each time I do these kinds of tests.
As of late I've been more anxious, etc. so there'll probably be biases.

Maybe they should be done multiple times and added up to get a more accurate result, but what's the point anyways.
I know who I am, and I don't see any value in any of this astrology type shit

 No.205107

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>>203113
Similar results to the one Ive taken few years ago when I still had a job except I was very low in neuroticism.

 No.205111

Willing to take these tests should be a prerequisite for autism diagnosis. I can't handle going through even 1 question without getting bored.

 No.205115

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>>205107
I got similar ratios, I don't really know what it means, I'd say it's accurate but it's not telling me anything I didn't know

 No.205126

>>203113
Somewhat outdated chart. Liking "nerdy" stuff like anime and vidya is now popular and even encouraged. The image and industry of nerdy things has been "gentrified" considerably, look at all the streamers with sponsorships who are 100% turbonormie.

One thing that still remains constant however, is how virgins are and will always be made fun of.

 No.205466

>>203763
I am an INTP and am fat :(

 No.205542

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>>205466
Hahaha, no way, how did it turn out like that? Is someone bringing you delicious food without asking? Normally INTPs postpone eating to do something more interesting or forget to eat often enough to stay somewhat optimal.

 No.205564

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Im north african, aryan and asian. ISTJ

 No.205573

>>205564
OH MY WOWZERS!

 No.206981

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>>203763
Why not? Yet I am quite skinny.
It has been such a nice temporary hobby delving on these MBTI types, I could recognize many patterns now from people from my past and present.

Specially interesting that thing about cognitive functions

 No.206982

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Myers-Briggs is just astrology for fedoras who consider themselves to be above spirituality.

 No.206998

Why MBTI trigger schizos? At first i dismissed it as trolling or plain witlessness, but it kept repeating consistently, in different groups of people and in same dogmatic fashion, so i started to ponder.
I'm speculating this phenomena is partly caused by an overlap in cognitive processes in regard to socialization, some people process socialization more automatically, others more manually, NPC types who live more or less on autopilot are less likely to recognize a tool that helps autists understand people manually.
But the main reason probably is good-old abrahamic religious intolerance, for some reason schizos feel like their dogmatic worldview can be taken away, so they rush to defend it from a perceived heretical attack. When similar concepts/ideas get introduced, mind tends to either clump them together or search for a pronounced distinction between the two. Religious feeler types perceive such overlap, MBTI and their spiritual notions stand too close for comfort, for some reason they perceive MBTI as something spiritual. Basically its a natural self defense reaction to something that is too similar, same as racism, they fear their minds might get raped.

 No.207000

>>206998
Why the fact that MBTI is just bullshit like astrology triggers MBTI schizo so much?

 No.207002

>>207000
Don't just vent frustration, if you have a hypothesis back it up.

 No.207003

>>207002
In personality typology, the Myers–Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is an introspective self-report questionnaire indicating differing psychological preferences in how people perceive the world and make decisions. Despite its popularity, it has been widely regarded as pseudoscience by the scientific community.[1][2][3]

 No.207004

>>207002
>>207003
MBTI schizo on sucide watch, can't accept that their astrology is fake, their "I'm such a INTJ hehe" label is meaningless.

 No.207007

>>207000
Anon, you'd be better off making a parody thread.
>Post your Zodiac signs, wizbros. I bet many wizards here are virgos.
>Link to old Geocities style website about Zodiac signs
etc.

 No.207008

>>207003
I wouldn't count on media reports on scientific community to give me a clear picture of reality.

 No.207010

>>207008
While I do agree with what >>207003
is getting at, I do have to agree with you that–fuck Wikipedia's current verifiability guidelines. They've defined "verifiability" to mean "Only that which can be found in WSJ, NYP, Globe, NPR, PBS, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, Vox, Vice, Forbes, or U.S. government press releases." It's sickening that that isn't pushed back against more.

 No.207013

>>207007
>>207010
>If don't agree with my narrow worldview and definition of evidence so then fuck that

Yeah, you're acting just like the guideline of wikipedia

 No.207071

>>207013
Tu quoque fallacy.

 No.207072

>>207013
…wait, >>207010 was saying that he didn't like wp's list of sources, but didn't say anything about his own list. You're putting words in his mouth.

I mean, as a European, surely you can understand why having only CIA approved media is kind of a problem, right?

 No.207089

>>207071
>>207072
Sure, the alternative schizo grifter media source is better, the schizo trying to sell you some snake oil and tell you do don't believe anything but himself and his schizophrenic worldview

 No.207092

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Why yes, I did pay for Jordan Peterson's Big 5 Personality Quiz.

 No.207097

>>207092
>82 neuroticism

Grim

 No.207099

>>206998
>When your life is so putrid you can't help but to convince people to stop liking/learning something they still will like while being a hopeless assblasted asshole

 No.207779

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>>207089
Good old times, xD.

>>207000
>sociopathic seething
>so you can pick on him whenever we feel upset
Meh.

Anyways r/MBTImemes has better stuff. You could quickly learn more about people and yourself than after years of normie contact

 No.207782


 No.207806

the big five and all personality tests are retarded.

as for your picture you provided and likely made yourself. I used to do that too. i used to make graphics and participate in catagorizing normies. i've been down that rabbit hole. its pointless. normie may as well mean not-me because no one is 100% not normie. i've met literal autists who are more normie than me. all that can be said about normies in terms of category is just that there are regular normies and chad/stacies who sit atop the social ladder or whatever. theres nothing else to define.

when you get rid of all the normies you will realize that you actually have nothing to post about other than wallowing in your own self pity, which in my opinion is not a quality post. Yes. normalfaggots destroy boards. but what made your chans fun was the fact that people wanted to be fun. they were funny, interesting, dicey and stupid with their memes. like you couldn't post duckroll or whatever today without it being called cringe. the fun and innocence of board culture has been destroyed. and theres no getting it back. it was a rare fluorescence in the internet before people had to let you know what their fetish is or how bad they wanted to fuck some succubus. you have to realize that like 99% of the population see life as nothing but a competition for sex and believe in nothing more.


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