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 No.205693

it's boring being a NEET when you have 0 hobby or when the only hobbies you have are boring. at least hikikomori spend their days playing games all day. I don't play games anymore, I don't read anymore… I wish I was working but I know I don't like working (already tried) so I'm here ,browsing wizchan and watching videos on youtube and not knowing what to do with my life

 No.205696

>>205693
What youtube vids?

 No.205697

>>205696
videos about yugioh and japan

 No.205698


 No.205700

How old are you OP?

 No.205701

>>205700
I'm 25, I'm a apprenctice wizard

 No.205711

There are +7 NEET threads in the catalog. I myself am a NEET but this is too much. Why the sudden interest?

 No.205713

>>205711
I'm trying to get answers that will enlight me

 No.205714

Imagine being bored when you have infinite things to try if you are that much of a smooth brain make iPhones in China

 No.205721

Play games, work, read

 No.205725

Have you tried different hobbies and activities already?

One thing I realized is that most hobbies are neutral and aren't enjoyable if you're not in the right mindset. Something like eating food might be sensually enjoyable because food is tasty on its own, but enjoying stuff like reading, building things, learning etc. all depend on (You) and you caring about the outcome and working towards some worthwhile goal. No point in reading a difficult book if you don't care about getting anything out of it. Even reading a dry textbook becomes exciting if you are looking for an answer to a question or problem you want to solve.

Anyway, you only really need one hobby that you can obsess over and feel engaged. For me that was language learning and I tried doing it several times during my life and dropped it pretty quickly until I came back to it with the right mindset or I guess, right point in my life. I didn't have to motivate myself to do it every day because I was actually excited about learning and making progress and just waiting to get off work so I can come back and learn more. Having a hobby or personal project to obsess over really improves your life, but it's weird how you don't have much choice, you just have to try a lot of things, maybe even revisit them every couple months until it finds you.

 No.205737

>>205725
>>205721
I think I'm depressed thats why I do not want to do nothing. I don't want to play games nor read books and other hobbies you must seek money and I don't have money

 No.205773

>>205693
I also would like to be working because being a NEET makes you feel guilty, but then I remember how miserable I was as a wageslave.

There is no joy in anything we do, there is only misery.

 No.205775

>>205725
> it's weird how you don't have much choice, you just have to try a lot of things, maybe even revisit them every couple months until it finds you.
This is good advice.
I've often escaped boredom just by forcing myself to try something for an hour or two.
Sometimes it just clicks

 No.205789

>>205773
>being a NEET makes you feel guilty

This is true, and a problem for me. I can't enjoy doing anything because I feel guilty. My excuse for being NEET is I am depressed, which I am, so if I start doing things to enjoy myself my parents will see and go "you aren't depressed anymore, time to go become a wage slave". I feel guilty trying to enjoy myself so I mostly just hide away in my room.

 No.205828

I feel like the enlightened NEET out of free will who spends his time with productive hobbies is rare because anyone like this would be able to find a job. At least some kind of self-employment.

 No.205829

>>205828
Yeah. Those that are good at something and produce any kind of value, eventually find a way to monetize it. You really have to be bottom of the barrel human being to be a NEET in the long-term.

 No.205831

NEETdom is an acceptable current and future lifestyle for some but others not so much. I've been a NEET for a few years and rather enjoyed the downtime and having no responsibilities but it's so tedious now, I was the same for a while most of my days consisted of me laying in bed scrolling my phone and smoking cigarettes. That went on for months as a continuous cycle now I'm aiming to break the mold and have a future, I go to the lounge now and watch series/movies and anime mostly anime, also reading online and playing vidya. It may not be the most productive lifestyle but it sure is a lot better than doing literally nothing, this is happening as I prepare to engage in online study and progress from there. All I'm saying is you may find yourself not indulging in hobbies because existence as a NEET itself is mundane and it seems nothing will change that. Just force yourself out of your comfort zone bits at a time and slowly you'll adapt to the things you're doing different and perhaps enjoy them as a whole, whatever that may be, hiking, reading, events etc

 No.205844

What's fucked is that being a NEET I had years of free time to develop my interests, see what I really like and what I might have an aptitude for, try out all the different methods of dealing with depression like exercise and supplements, maybe learn a skill that could make me some money and to play all the video games I want to get that out of my system.

But instead I managed to waste day for day on imageboards and playing the same online game. I honestly can't even tell what I did in the last 5 years. It feels like I was in a coma. It just blows my mind how you can fill years with doing nothing.

 No.205845

In my experience there is this sort of mild anhedonia that comes with being NEET, where even if you want to engage in productive stuff, it becomes uninteresting soon enough. Maybe it is because the activities I choose have no real value for me and my lifestyle. Many of the "productive" stuff I pick I do so because they are worth to society, not necessarily myself. Programming, for example. I have almost nothing I would like to program. Physics, too. I kind of like it and find it interesting but I wouldn't know what to do with most of that knowledge, and solving a bunch of problems is pretty dull and leading nowhere, I realize this is exactly why I droped out, the pointlessness of doing rote work.
I have found that I need to find something that really feels meaningful to me in order to be motivated to do it at all. The examples above are not meaningful to me, and I can't imagine a scenario where being proficient at that will get me a job because of how society is structured and my own position in life. Actually, one of the reasons I remain NEET is that I cannot imagina anyone wanting to employ me. All I could really do is work in blue collar jobs. I would rather try to develop skills that'll allow me to be self-employed. But even then I would need social skills and I really really suck at that.

 No.205865

it's boring being a NEET in general. For me, the more free time I have on my hands the less things I do. Whether productive things or just entartainment. In 3 months of working I finished more games and animes than I did in a year of being a NEET.

 No.205888

>>205865
It's the opposite for me. I work a job about once every couple of years to save up for a new computer. All I ever do while working is masturbate. I jerk off soon as I would get home, right before going into work, and even during my breaks at work I would jack off.

 No.205926

>>205844
Whatever gets you through a day is grounds for doing it. This is a horrendous world for a wizzo. Looking back on your past and wondering why you weren't doing this or that is to punish your younger self for not giving you an easier time now. That's kind of the whole point of being young - being as happy and healthy as you can get yourself, and actually doing what you want with a day. It is a gift beyond anything the outside world could give you. Moreover, if circumstances were right back then, your younger self would have developed those interests at the time. The time wasn't right, or he would have done it. If you're ready to work hard now, that's great. You can be driven further forward, knowing what it is to miss an opportunity because you didn't get on with it sooner. Now that you have the wisdom of self-reflection, you need to ask yourself if you're ready to push yourself through the drudgery of doing things when you don't really feel like it for the sake of self-improvement. From personal experience, I'd recommend pushing yourself the moment you feel the impetus; it's easy once you get the ball rolling.

 No.205928

doing nothing is a luxury, if you would rather earn money wageslaving instead of neeting and consooming you have to be low iq

 No.205930

>>205928
well if we couldn't depend on our parents, had needed our own capital to neet for life, how much would really need until we could rest entirely secure?

for the paranoid cautious type it might reach into the millions, one never knows what the future holds in economic instability and inflation

 No.205933

>>205930
anyone can neet, those who don't obviously do it out of ego/pride reasons and would rather face hardship in exchange for not having their fragile ego shattered

 No.205934

>>205933
>anyone can neet,
post discarded for retardation.

 No.205939

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>>205928
Being a NEET just isn't comfy unless you inherited a lot of money.

Having to rely on the goodwill of others for survival feels bad because you are at the mercy of their whims. Any day there could be a new law that would get rid of neetbux or make you work cleaning toilets and there is nothing you could do because you have no negotiating power.

 No.205942

Same here. I got bored of doing hobbies through the lenses of Youtube and just wanna get a job to do it myself. Two months already trying to shave my beard, get a haircut and search for jobs.

 No.205962

>>205939
wagecuck cope
normalfags have been spouting this all the meanwhile ive been neeting for 15 years now
society will collapse any day now surely

 No.205964

I want to win the mega million’s tonight. I don’t want to go back to the wage cage please help me!

 No.205999

>>205942
what field u lookin in

 No.206004

>>205939
Living under such fear of potential threat is your own limitation and not a misery attributed to the actual situation. You've probably just been dealt shitty situations often enough to automatically expect them, thus robbing yourself of peace even when it is right there in front of you.
I am an absolute charity case, but it is bliss all the same. It won't last, but guess what, not even jobs last. The only security you can find is building up some vague competence so someone will maybe need you and so not discard or assault you. I'm sure with your mindset you'd still find all the disease and disaster robbing the peace out of that situation as well however.

 No.206005

>>205928
The wealths of life are as follows:
Laziness, privacy and stillness.
If you are rich but lacking in these, you aren't rich enough yet.

 No.206027

being a wageslave is also extremely boring and routine, don't fall into the trap of thinking work will make your life more eventful or fufilling

 No.206036

>>206027
literal wageslavery like working in a factory or filling out spreadsheets is boring for sure but I find it interesting to read about the stuff people do at their (college degree required) jobs working with cutting edge tech and knowledge that is inaccessible to hobbyists

i noticed that the discussion online is all surface level and everything deeper is gatekept by professionals who wont spend their time online talking about it in detail

I'm tired from experiencing the world through a screen

 No.206037

>>205942
you can do hobbies without it being a job. The fuck?

 No.206038

>>205939
wagecucks are at the mercy of their employer and government all the same. Even the selfemployed are at high risk of losing everything and ending up in debt

 No.206039

>>206036
It's not even surface level, it's just garbage. If you really want to learn something you're better off reading a book on the matter and once you have the basics figured out you can read recent papers published by researchers, it's usually freely available on university websites, scienceopen, google scholar and whatnot.

The bar of entry is not the fact people are not talking about it, they are. In fact most of them are desperate to publish as much as possible. Thousands of freely available papers by scientists and scholars are published every week online. What is not free you can get for free in places like libgen. The bar of entry is probably the fact you don't actually care, but that's just a guess.

 No.206040

>>206036
the discussions between professionals *are* the book and papers online that you can get easily from scihub

 No.206042

>>205962
>>206038
I thought that things will just get better but covid, the recent war in europe and climate change reminded me that life can change quickly. Sure even people with jobs are not 100% safe but there is no discussion that a NEET has 0 control if things go bad.

 No.206043

>>206042
>Sure even people with jobs are not 100% safe but there is no discussion that a NEET has 0 control if things go bad.
True. It is a little worse. However, the anxious feeling that the rug can be pulled will always be there, unless you are rich

 No.206046

That is why Schopenhauer considered greed not a vice. it wasn't some gordon gecko chest-thumping alpha thing. instead schop being a pessimist, says our possessions are always very insecure. and so it is no vice if we're always seeking more walls around our castle to keep it safe.

he just wants to be a comfy neet, but it turns out you need to be a billionaire to truly rest easy at night

 No.206047

>>206046
>billionaires rest easy at night
yea sure lol

 No.206111

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I don't know if I fully understand the job but consulting sounds fun to me. Researching a business, how they operate, their profits and expenses, the market, their competitors, then think what they could improve… and learn more about how the world works by learning about a different business every time.

But you have to be a turbonormie who graduated from a top tier business school to get that kind of job. Even if I had the smarts having to network with obnoxious rich people would suck.

 No.206114

>>205693 (OP)
>and not knowing what to do with my life

when i was a bit younger then you i spend a lot of time diving into self help audiobooks. despite being filled with capitalist propaganda i often found interesting bits of information that helped me make sense of this world.

when i read the op, one thing comes to mind is a audiobook by the author brian tracy called "the psychology of achievement", read by the author. i think nowadays it can be found on youtube.

the one thing i liked particularly was a series of questions he believed asking people in this situation makes sense. it was questions like this:

if money was no object, what would you spend your day doing?

if you found out you only had 6 months to live, how would you spend those 6 months.

it was always the same formula. if one, several or all of the perceived limits people feel simply did not concern you, how would that change your thoughtprocess. maybe it helps, good luck my niBBa, watch your health <3

 No.206123

>>206111
yeah i remember back in college finding it weird that by being a business major you could just major in being a boss.

 No.206139

>>206046
>he just wants to be a comfy neet, but it turns out you need to be a billionaire to truly rest easy at night

I think being a multi-millionare (5-10 million) is safer and more stress-free than being a billionare. Billionaires do genuinely have their own swords of Damocles hanging over them because wealth attracts people looking to exploit them. Just look at Stan Lee in his old age, being paraded around and forced to sign comic books, suffering elder abuse. Or King George III, being declared insane.

This isn't me saying that being a billionare is bad, hell no. I'm saying that after a certain level of material comfort, more wealth and power actually causes more stress. And it also causes more risk.

 No.206142

>>206139
yeah i guess from where im standing those are all just big numbers

> Stan Lee in his old age, being paraded around and forced to sign comic books, suffering elder abuse.


yeah I still remember

"I can't say anything bad about Mike, in fact Mike is filming me right now"

 No.206143

>>206139
>>206142
Stan lee was not even close to being a billionaire though.

 No.206192

>>206143
He should have been a trillionaire instead. That's when it goes full circle and you become a good person again.

 No.206209

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do you get deliver the groceries to your house or do you go to the store as a NEET? If you're a hikikomori, you should definitevly get your groceries delivered if possible so you won't leave the house for any reasons

 No.206288

>>206209
>Not going to a Walmart at 3 in the morning when nobody else is there and checking out by yourself in complete silence.
c o m f

 No.206365

>>206209
Usually just grab a lunch when im out during the day.

 No.206372

>>206027
What the fuck? I don't understand why some NEETs think people wageslave for fun. They are forced to because they're out of options and need money. It's the cycle of society baby, fear of dying on the streets makes the crack of the whip barely tolerable, for now.

>>205701
Real advice for the apprentice wizzie. If you live with parents, do all the chores to get on their good side so they'll let you stay longer. Consider getting a part time job, as much as it's tolerable, to get some spending money and saving money. If you don't feel like anime or vidya, consider doing some physical workouts at home like pushups or sit-ups. Try to work on something while you have the time. Trust me, it'll go by fast and things won't be as cute when you're fully initiated as a wizard.

 No.206724

>>206372
I think succubi actually like to work because it allows them to socialize more. But for men it's torture.

 No.206725

>>206372
Of course survival is the main thing.

But what he said about " eventful or fufilling" is a factor too, especially for us types, who don't have much else going for us in life.

I think part of the reason I failed to adjust to work, is because I put too much burden on it, to be the purpose and meaning of life. While for most it is something to endure, the means to the end, for the weekend.

I was expecting them to pay me, to give me a meaning of life. Something I was unable to find for free, or even paying for.

I mean there are people whose entire meaning of life is their job.

 No.206993

>>206725
My friend, this is straight up in the normie wagecuck playbook. So many people go to work hoping to find meaning and fulfillment. It's ingrained so badly that in interviews you're literally supposed to blow hot air about how meaningful work is and how you're DEFINITELY NOT HERE FOR MONEY LMAOO.

When wagecucks encounter NEETS, they're often enraged and disgusted and demand to know why NEETs are aimless and purposeless. The irony is not lost on the fact that you can find any normie thread on /r and witness thousands of comments bemoaning how pointless and soul sucking their jobs are.

Those people whose entire meaning of life is their jobs are usually like that because that's the lullaby they have to sing to sleep at night. Like how listless NEETs will distract themselves watching anime all day, workaholics will distract themselves from life by spending it all in a tiny microcosm called work. You know what happens to a lot of those workaholics after they retire? Many just straight up drop dead or start working again within a few months, because that is the reality and meaning of life they've created for themselves.

When I was younger I was constantly searching for some grand truth, some real reason we're supposed to be here. But as I've gotten older all I really understand is that the pointlessness of life is your ticket to freedom, if you want. What matters to one person is just based on their circumstances. I don't really care if some workaholic wants to throw their life away. That's their call, and I'm not their warden, nor are they yours.

If you're unhappy and listless, that's just your own mind telling you something is wrong and you should change directions and try something new. The worse that can happen is that you feel stupid and unfulfilled. And what's even worse than that is realizing that perhaps nothing at all makes you fulfilled. In that case, there's always the exit door. Remember, this nihilism is your ticket to freedom if you so choose.

 No.207743

>>206114
>if money was no object, what would you spend your day doing?
ldar
>if you found out you only had 6 months to live, how would you spend those 6 months.
ldar

 No.207752

>>206993
There is something beyond this existence. You have a soul.

 No.207766

>>205939
>Any day there could be a new law that would get rid of neetbux or make you work cleaning toilets and there is nothing you could do because you have no negotiating power.

Then I'd just get a job lmoa.

 No.207767

>>207766
then you'd no longer be a neet. I've no experience, skills or connexions and am socially retarded so I'd be truly fucked lmoa.

 No.207768

>>207767
I'm a NEET because I don't want to work, not because I can't work. I only make like 20% more money working.

 No.207770

>>207768
I'm a NEET because of both.

 No.207773

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>>205693
you need this to stop neeting safely

 No.207774

>>207773
I don't have this but I have my driver license



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