Are you fat and ugly? What is the correlation between being a fat ugly neckbeard and being a wizard, how that stereotype came to be? It's funny that "popular" idea of the older recluse virgin is a fat ugly neckbeard and not a fit somewhat good looking dude.
I'm a fat ugly neckbeard, but it's not really the cause of my wizardry, just a side-effect of not caring about my appearance. Cause of my wizardhood is a sense of alienation and aversion towards people, constant social anxiety and need to be alone.
Once you stop caring about being cool and having sex and even going outside and pretending to be "normal", as a guy you will naturally just decay into a fat ugly neckbeard out of sheer apathy.
>>205729 What's healthy tho? It's not like I go out of my way to drink toxic chemicals. Also no one is spending 3 hours at the gym every day to be "healthy". They want to look good and everything that comes from it.
I'm 27, so not technically a wizard yet, but I'm neither fat nor ugly. I've picked up exercising recently because the effects of time and this NEET lifestyle have started to degradate my flesh suit's performance and stamina. My biggest goal is to just be healthy with an inoffensive visage.
>>205728 Pretty much this is the main response. I was a 100lb pretty attractive twink looking guy still in my emo phase a little over 10 years ago. 12 years of being NEET later and I'm fat, aging like milk, and neckbeard. 200lbs now and getting cheap loose clothes and sweatpants because all of my good clothes stopped fitting me a long time ago. I once was like that one guy from welcome to the NHK who lost his last pair of pants and never left due to it. I was wrapped in a blanket with a towel wrapped around waist for about a solid year until my mom brought me some XL t-shirts and sweatpants that she bought real cheap.
With non internet wizards it’s probably very common. Imageboard users are mostly kids so it’s 50/50 but the culture of imageboards is very feminized now around gossip, drama, and normalfag social hierarchies so fat losers don’t really admit it anymore or post pictures This site is very much modern image board culture like that
>>205728 >>205741 Same, I was pretty fit in highschool, then I got depressed and stopped giving a fuck about my appearance. Now I look like the real life version of the "ugly bastard" guy.
>>205728 I would say my social anxiety was caused by being fat. It's a comorbid combination.
I do think if I wasn't fat as a child I wouldn't be a wizard or have half as much social anxiety. But after I would say early teen years, I pretty much cemented in my lonely anxious nature.
>>205727 I'm 27 and no, handsome actually. I just usually don't want to talk with people at all and when I do I have no idea how to do it. Honestly in a way makes it feels even more depressing than being ugly.
>>205727 im handsome and fit. One day i will be the best looking human. Not only that but my iq is 5 digits. I would say reclusion is a 50/50 thing eg those who are probably criminals, shunned for being ugly, or mentally disabled (any social impairment like autism). Then those who choose reclusion for their own reasons.
well i guess the stereotype came from braindead normies thinking a fit good looking guy can’t be intelligent; and have to be terribly hygienic and obese to use windows xp,vista,and 07. who think being a hermit is because you don't fit societal standards.
The ironic thing is that most normies are pretty ugly and un-symmetrical with terrible slug bodies; that are probably worse than your average stereotypical neckbeard.
>What is the correlation between being a fat ugly neckbeard and being a wizard I'd say none, I'm rather good looking and yet a khhv. I also know plenty of very ugly people with history of relationships/hookups. It seems like It's all a mentality thing.
>>205727 I'm not fat but I am ugly (dark, extremely short, hideous face, receded hairline). I don't have a neckbeard because I'm unable to grow facial hair. My physical appearance has contributed to me landing up here, although I'm still two years away from wizardry.
Not fat actually, i'm 63kg. Used to be 83 years ago.
I dislike buying new clothes, they are expensive and i'm obliged to go outside. I prefer to spend my wizbudget and wiztime towards things i'm interested in.
So whenever i feel discomfort wearing my clothers, i shrink by lowering my food intake. This also has the benefit of reducing food expenditures and transfering the savings to my hobbies.
Yes only because of apathy and depression. I've been to the gym pretty consistently since 2012 to just punish myself. Masochistic pride of being able to load up a weight on squats and not stop until you can't see or hear anything from the blood pressure. Or sprinting up a hill over and over again until you get heart pain.
I've built some muscle but poor training has given me aches and pains has really limited my gains which I actually regret quite a bit since I've learned a lot about training since and can push myself a lot further in a productive manner now.
Being fat is just what you eat which is purely a mental thing. It's not hard to just eat chicken breast, eggs, potatoes, greens and protein shakes. It's just people who are mentally deprived of a normal life have to cope in other ways and get their enjoyment from things like food or drugs.
People who talk about obesity and don't understand it is purely a psychological problem don't know what they are talking about. No normal person wants to be obese but lack emotional stability and support to make lasting life style changes, and only lunatics would want to be obese.
I wouldn't be surprised if the mental problems in obese populations is MUCH higher than normal weight people.
>>206620 I do harbor the idea that humans need dopamine, and if they ain't getting it through the natural process of bonding with other humans, they will look for it by other means (which tend to be destructive for one's self). Things like stuffing yourself with junk food, drugs, gambling, crime, starring day in day out in a screen flashing light at 120 fps.
Like a Pavlov dog drooling over a reward. Looking for that hit. But that hit ain't sustainable, it's just artificial. Enabled by the technological progress, not something nature intended. So the subject keeps on gobbing McCheese, or snorting coke, or starring at 120 fps screen and not sleeping, ie engaging in risky dopamine releasing activities until his body can't sustain it anymore.
I know it's hard when you're socially isolated, but try to stay healthy. That's the only alternative for a wizzie since no other human will help you out once your body won't support you.
i don't think its the cause of my wizardry though. i see hot succs with guys that are shorter, fatter, and uglier than me. i am fundamentally disconnected from other people and incapable of genuine emotional connection. i don't see myself as deserving of love and companionship and it pushes me away from people when they try to get close to me. furthermore, i extract a sick sense of enjoyment from self destructive activities like isolating myself. it's an expression of my freedom and individuality
Even if I were fat, I do know how to sap those foods which actually trigger insuline abnormally (which is the main and only cause of fatness). >buy a glucometer >use 1 hour after eating >if your glucose is above 90 you have eaten something that is making you fat
The book here is in spanish, I cannot find the english version yet.
>>206978 so you are saying you can eat mountains of food and you won't get fet if your insulin levels are still low? What kind of mega retardation is this?
>>206996 Ese viejo hábito de llamar latam al continente americano, ya toda América (con excepción de Canadá) es hispanohablante, y bueno, Portugués en Brazil que tambien es un idioma romance, "latino". Es irónico porque siempre hemos sido mayoría. Muerte a los EU.
>>205731 He's right though. Just a small percentage of those who frequent gyms goes there with the intent of becoming healthy. Most people just want to become fit and get some succubi.
>>205727 I'm ugly but not fat. I am subhuman. The stereotype came to be because it is only subhuman genetic defectives who are truely unsalvagable outcasts, if you're not genetically ugly then you can't be a true outcast because you could always just break out of the loop of suffering with some effort. For genuine deformed, bald, ugly defectives there's no way out other than suicide. We don't know what comes after death, only these true outcasts have to contend with the scary possibilities of where one may end up if they attempt to end their suffering on this plane early. >>205728 Ugliness is a bone structural (genetic) problem, not a laziness problem.
>>205727 i am neithrr fat or ugly but i think the stereotype is a thing because those people are less likely to bother with their appearance since they dont really have much of a reason to do so
most of the time people dress up and put tons of deoderant and have weird skin and hair routines just to impress people they dont even fucking know. i couldnt care less and i bet other wizards think the same even if they dont say it. if the main reason to make yourself pretty isnt even viable then why bother..
not fat and/or ugly, but short. also, I was very skinny during my teens. both things definitely had a huge impact on my mental health, and why I became so shy, social anxious etc. Another problem I developed during my teens was becoming a "low talker", I still struggle with it some times now at my 30s, but it was much worse during my teens and got bullied a lot because of it.
>>206996 Oh, I forgot! Suarez's book was also available in English >attached >>207216 Even if they have calories, as long as they do not trigger your insuline beyond 120. Seriously, give the book a quick gaze.
>>206632 Maximize the bodies capabilities to acquire high quantities of dopamine the most efficient way possible. Machines and chemicals enable me to surpass the limits of humanity.