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Nearly 30 still have it way more than I’d like not on any anti depressants or drugs keep that in mind.
Do any wizards have advice or suggestions on how to not see or cave into my urges of jerking off
Do any wizards have advice or suggestions on how to not see or cave into my urges of jerking off
Fapping and self-control are hardly related to your actual sex-drive and usually depend on other factors related to your lifestyle, of course if you have no sex-drive at all then you won't get a boner but your problem is not related to other things.
You need to figure out what exactly leads to it, it might be boredom, feeling lonely, porn dependency etc. and if you feel the urge then try to look at what chain of thoughts/emotions lead to it, even if you fail it is important to look at what made you do it. Usually when you struggle with fapping you also most likely have bad time management. When you wake up try to get out of bed fast and try to do more stuff even when it's just cleaning up your place or cooking a meal. It is usually also helpful to avoid certain things such as social media or other online places that might expose you to pornographic material without your consent.
You need to figure out what exactly leads to it, it might be boredom, feeling lonely, porn dependency etc. and if you feel the urge then try to look at what chain of thoughts/emotions lead to it, even if you fail it is important to look at what made you do it. Usually when you struggle with fapping you also most likely have bad time management. When you wake up try to get out of bed fast and try to do more stuff even when it's just cleaning up your place or cooking a meal. It is usually also helpful to avoid certain things such as social media or other online places that might expose you to pornographic material without your consent.
>>205782
My libido completely went away when I started to semi-starve myself to lose weight. I am unsure if it's the caloric deficit (eating 800-1000 calories per day) or the fact that I consume less than 20g of fat each day. I believe if you consume very little fat it can mess with your hormones, and sex drive at its core is based off hormones, so… Of course this probably isn't 'healthy' or maintainable forever, but it is a way I guess.
My libido completely went away when I started to semi-starve myself to lose weight. I am unsure if it's the caloric deficit (eating 800-1000 calories per day) or the fact that I consume less than 20g of fat each day. I believe if you consume very little fat it can mess with your hormones, and sex drive at its core is based off hormones, so… Of course this probably isn't 'healthy' or maintainable forever, but it is a way I guess.
>>205784
My days are productive I just need use it as a sleep aid I struggle to get to sleep I only jerk off before bed
My days are productive I just need use it as a sleep aid I struggle to get to sleep I only jerk off before bed
>>205786
>My days are productive I just need use it as a sleep aid I struggle to get to sleep I only jerk off before bed
Then why did you even make this thread? That's easily manageable and you shouldn't resort to ruining your hormones just because of that.
>My days are productive I just need use it as a sleep aid I struggle to get to sleep I only jerk off before bed
Then why did you even make this thread? That's easily manageable and you shouldn't resort to ruining your hormones just because of that.
>>205785
Huh. You know, right about when I switched to olive oil was probably coincidentally when my sex drive disappeared, too.
>>205788
Yeah, it took me a while to learn what some men mean by "sex drive." Like I've only been able to jack off once a day if I wanted to. More than once has _always_ been a challenge for me and that's trying to do it. I've realized that there are some men out that who apparently can just…do it all fucking day? Or not only could do nothing but masturbate the entire day, but actively have to will themselves NOT to end up doing nothing but masturbate the entire day. Am I right on that?
Huh. You know, right about when I switched to olive oil was probably coincidentally when my sex drive disappeared, too.
>>205788
Yeah, it took me a while to learn what some men mean by "sex drive." Like I've only been able to jack off once a day if I wanted to. More than once has _always_ been a challenge for me and that's trying to do it. I've realized that there are some men out that who apparently can just…do it all fucking day? Or not only could do nothing but masturbate the entire day, but actively have to will themselves NOT to end up doing nothing but masturbate the entire day. Am I right on that?
>>205793
The people you describe have a porn/masturbation addiction and I've been there myself. When youre a heavy coomer then every fap is like a bong hit, it's really like a drug that you supply yourself with several times a day to keep your level much like a stoner. Fap addicts ejaculate too much so one single fap session can take very long and if you add the endless video searching of a porn addict then it can easily take over half the day. It's not really their sex drive but their addiction to porn and fapping, without the addiction they would have a normal approach to their impulses.
The people you describe have a porn/masturbation addiction and I've been there myself. When youre a heavy coomer then every fap is like a bong hit, it's really like a drug that you supply yourself with several times a day to keep your level much like a stoner. Fap addicts ejaculate too much so one single fap session can take very long and if you add the endless video searching of a porn addict then it can easily take over half the day. It's not really their sex drive but their addiction to porn and fapping, without the addiction they would have a normal approach to their impulses.
My sex drive took a dive when I turned 30, like clockwork. Even I thought that was strange.
I still jerk off, but mostly because I trained my dopamine system on masturbation for ~18 years so most of the times I masturbate it isn't even because of some sexual stimulus but because I feel stressed or bored.
I still jerk off, but mostly because I trained my dopamine system on masturbation for ~18 years so most of the times I masturbate it isn't even because of some sexual stimulus but because I feel stressed or bored.
>>205795 (Me)
I even find porn disgusting, more than I ever did. I find it harder and harder to find material to arouse me, either in pictures or in my own imagination. The only stuff that sort of stimulates me is cuteness, the less sexual in nature, the better.
I still do feel aroused on ocassion, but it's getting very uncommon.
I wonder if this happens to everybody or it's a consequence of never having experienced sex.
I even find porn disgusting, more than I ever did. I find it harder and harder to find material to arouse me, either in pictures or in my own imagination. The only stuff that sort of stimulates me is cuteness, the less sexual in nature, the better.
I still do feel aroused on ocassion, but it's getting very uncommon.
I wonder if this happens to everybody or it's a consequence of never having experienced sex.
>>205783
ive seen a lot of replies like this here lately where it's like the first 1-5 replies that just utterly blow the OP the fuck out.
but the larping cultists can't stop themselves from writing books about their improvebrah religion anyway so this'll be front page for a while.
ive seen a lot of replies like this here lately where it's like the first 1-5 replies that just utterly blow the OP the fuck out.
but the larping cultists can't stop themselves from writing books about their improvebrah religion anyway so this'll be front page for a while.
>>205796
That's a result of compulsive porn consuming which even happens to guys who are in relationships so it's not a consequence of never having experienced sex.
That's a result of compulsive porn consuming which even happens to guys who are in relationships so it's not a consequence of never having experienced sex.
Not a nofap advocate, don't care about that stuff, but I just don't masturbate because human smells and secretions disgust me. I thought it would be a use it or lose it thing, but I pop boners all the time. I hope my libido dies soon.
>>205788
I feel like shit after it’s my biggest issue in my life right now I live a comfy neet life but the urge to nut really ruins it
I feel like shit after it’s my biggest issue in my life right now I live a comfy neet life but the urge to nut really ruins it
>>205813
The current admin has addressed this on meta already, apparently its not mods but just users of that discord. I hope that mail is real.
The current admin has addressed this on meta already, apparently its not mods but just users of that discord. I hope that mail is real.
i just trained myself out of it when i started sucking my dick. it takes at least a week for your dick to get back to full strength after cumming and its really easy to notice when you feel it with your lips and tongue (which are many times more sensitive than your hands and fingers). if you get hard the day after you cum your penis wont be as long, hard, hot, or shoot as much cum, the difference is night and day. its like a flower not yet in bloom, it doesnt feel right to suck it or subject it to masturbation when its not ready to bear fruit.
with this insight i was motivated to delay my masturbation and i learned a couple things. firstly, sexual images dont have to turn me on. second, just because i have a boner it does not mean i have to or want to masturbate. i still have a sex drive but i control it now, and i learned how to because i had a real understanding of what i was doing to my penis. i didnt just read about it or get bullied by some nofap inquisitor on the internet, i could physically feel the change in my penis.
with this insight i was motivated to delay my masturbation and i learned a couple things. firstly, sexual images dont have to turn me on. second, just because i have a boner it does not mean i have to or want to masturbate. i still have a sex drive but i control it now, and i learned how to because i had a real understanding of what i was doing to my penis. i didnt just read about it or get bullied by some nofap inquisitor on the internet, i could physically feel the change in my penis.
>>205825
>i just trained myself out of it when i started sucking my dick.
good job wizard! Keep sucking and fucking!
>i just trained myself out of it when i started sucking my dick.
good job wizard! Keep sucking and fucking!
>>205782
I'll be 36 soon and I haven't missed a day of fapping since I started. It's tough fighting the urge to do it more than once now. But I can at least remain calm enough to get through my day with a single fap session. I got pretty bad in my 20s and was up to fapping around 9 times a day for a few years.
I'll be 36 soon and I haven't missed a day of fapping since I started. It's tough fighting the urge to do it more than once now. But I can at least remain calm enough to get through my day with a single fap session. I got pretty bad in my 20s and was up to fapping around 9 times a day for a few years.
what really turns me off is just seeing succubi irl. how violent, hostile and entitled they are. how willing they are to hurt and exploit others for tiny meaningless advantages. like war criminals. they were hurt so it is ok for them to hurt others because apparently that's normal. boobed personifications of corruption. makes total sense to me that succubi are so focused on their appearance because that's the only potentially pleasant thing about them.
mothers are particularly disgusting to me, when they come to a place with their soon to be corrupted offspring, they treat the place like bankrobbers treat banks; they just start to control the place because they believe they are the most important.
i don't think a life without conflict makes sense to a succubus. they work hard on hiding it and pretend to be civilized but they can not wait to start shit. all the evils of humanity, physical violence, threats, torture, blackmail, exploitation, spybehavior, slavery, bullying, destruction, that's what they live for.
they'll get feelings for a good wizard but as soon as they realize there is no evil shit happening, they will get bored. my theory is the good succubi were weeded out and all that remains today are the broken psychopath compliant puppets thirsty for slavery.
mothers are particularly disgusting to me, when they come to a place with their soon to be corrupted offspring, they treat the place like bankrobbers treat banks; they just start to control the place because they believe they are the most important.
i don't think a life without conflict makes sense to a succubus. they work hard on hiding it and pretend to be civilized but they can not wait to start shit. all the evils of humanity, physical violence, threats, torture, blackmail, exploitation, spybehavior, slavery, bullying, destruction, that's what they live for.
they'll get feelings for a good wizard but as soon as they realize there is no evil shit happening, they will get bored. my theory is the good succubi were weeded out and all that remains today are the broken psychopath compliant puppets thirsty for slavery.
>>205833
I don't hate succubi but I also think that they don't make good leaders and somehow they seem unable to take responsibility for their actions. I also have never seen a succubus who was virtuous or dedicated about something, the motivation for them to do stuff always seems superficial and usually it's about getting attention or validation, even all these 'spiritual' or politically radical succubi are all just larping for the attention of weirdos. There are decent behaving succubi but they are not loud and don't whore around as much, your last sentence is diving into risky territory.
This was my opinion on succubi in a totally irrelevant thread.
I don't hate succubi but I also think that they don't make good leaders and somehow they seem unable to take responsibility for their actions. I also have never seen a succubus who was virtuous or dedicated about something, the motivation for them to do stuff always seems superficial and usually it's about getting attention or validation, even all these 'spiritual' or politically radical succubi are all just larping for the attention of weirdos. There are decent behaving succubi but they are not loud and don't whore around as much, your last sentence is diving into risky territory.
This was my opinion on succubi in a totally irrelevant thread.
>>205825
Kinda same happened to me. It makes a difference when you get sexually rewarded for waiting a few days, with a thick hot creamy cum squirt down the throat. This is related to why the nofap movement actually happens: it's really for normals to maximise their sex enjoyment because they are sexually active and dont actually just never cum; wizards get completely misled by it and pushed into a nightmare of unsatiated horniness
Kinda same happened to me. It makes a difference when you get sexually rewarded for waiting a few days, with a thick hot creamy cum squirt down the throat. This is related to why the nofap movement actually happens: it's really for normals to maximise their sex enjoyment because they are sexually active and dont actually just never cum; wizards get completely misled by it and pushed into a nightmare of unsatiated horniness
>>205836
>your crab rant is completely unrelated
>although it's less off-topic than the fellows talking about performing fellatio upon themselves i'll give you that one
so what you are saying is that their post is 'even more completly unrelated' while mine is merely 'completely unrelated'.
>your crab rant is completely unrelated
>although it's less off-topic than the fellows talking about performing fellatio upon themselves i'll give you that one
so what you are saying is that their post is 'even more completly unrelated' while mine is merely 'completely unrelated'.
>>205797
>improvebrah
you don't think improving works?
you don't think the sick can heal?
you don't think the weak can build muscle?
you don't think the stiff can learn to dance?
you don't think the addicts can transcend their habits?
you don't think the boring can learn to be interesting?
this makes me wonder if you are merely a passenger in your own life while other forces are doing the driving…
>improvebrah
you don't think improving works?
you don't think the sick can heal?
you don't think the weak can build muscle?
you don't think the stiff can learn to dance?
you don't think the addicts can transcend their habits?
you don't think the boring can learn to be interesting?
this makes me wonder if you are merely a passenger in your own life while other forces are doing the driving…
>>205850
>you don't think the wet can dry off with a towel?
>you don't water can be heated in a kettle to make tea?
>you don't think dirty clothes can be washed in a machine?
<you would have to be a normgroid
>you don't think the wet can dry off with a towel?
>you don't water can be heated in a kettle to make tea?
>you don't think dirty clothes can be washed in a machine?
<you would have to be a normgroid
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>>205900
don't just insult me you undignified bitch rat, also include how a tough guy like yourself would have expressed the thought
don't just insult me you undignified bitch rat, also include how a tough guy like yourself would have expressed the thought
>>205912
>We're all puppets
funny you say we because this is typical puppet behavior: change the identification when it suits you.
when you do "something good" then you did it. you make sure as many people as possible associate the success with you personally.
when something about you is discussed that is "something bad" or when you mess up, cause damage and disappoint people then all of the sudden it is no longer you that is talked about, then you are merely a member of a real or imagined group and what you did was merely normal.
the switch to group identity is what marks those who decided to be puppets. i think it was a foolish choice but i am sure you are about to argue your heart out that it was not your choice. the gangster life chose you, i am sure you don't mind telling the same story for the 1000th time and rest assured for me it will be as interesting as the first 999 times i heard what you are about to repeat.
>We're all puppets
funny you say we because this is typical puppet behavior: change the identification when it suits you.
when you do "something good" then you did it. you make sure as many people as possible associate the success with you personally.
when something about you is discussed that is "something bad" or when you mess up, cause damage and disappoint people then all of the sudden it is no longer you that is talked about, then you are merely a member of a real or imagined group and what you did was merely normal.
the switch to group identity is what marks those who decided to be puppets. i think it was a foolish choice but i am sure you are about to argue your heart out that it was not your choice. the gangster life chose you, i am sure you don't mind telling the same story for the 1000th time and rest assured for me it will be as interesting as the first 999 times i heard what you are about to repeat.
>>205846
the answer is always in the middle, some self-improvements can be made, but there are sharp limits to the ceiling
the answer is always in the middle, some self-improvements can be made, but there are sharp limits to the ceiling
>>205915
>but there are sharp limits
oh yeah? what are the limits of healing, most honorable limit expert since you are such an internationally respected authority on limits.
>but there are sharp limits
oh yeah? what are the limits of healing, most honorable limit expert since you are such an internationally respected authority on limits.
>>205846
1 word can send the failed normalfag into conniptions.
improvebrah, improvebrah, improvebrah!! haha
1 word can send the failed normalfag into conniptions.
improvebrah, improvebrah, improvebrah!! haha
>>205922
The improvebrah is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him an improvebrah and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out!"
The improvebrah is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him an improvebrah and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out!"
Men in their 60s routinely get younger succubi pregnant. STDs are also pretty rampant in retirement homes.
Your sex drive won't go away. You may experience erectile dysfunction at some point in your life but the horniness will never go away.
Your sex drive won't go away. You may experience erectile dysfunction at some point in your life but the horniness will never go away.
>>205922
you don't even dare to name the limits of improvement because you are scared of being laughed at.
there is no way that a dumb child from a broken home such as yourself even knows what is possible and what isn't for a human.
you don't even dare to name the limits of improvement because you are scared of being laughed at.
there is no way that a dumb child from a broken home such as yourself even knows what is possible and what isn't for a human.
>>205925
self-improvement is placebo
real winners never had to self-improve and think it's pathetic a beta even tried to be alpha
self-improvement is placebo
real winners never had to self-improve and think it's pathetic a beta even tried to be alpha
>>205927
beta and alpha is just about sex and social status, and there is more to self-improve than that
beta and alpha is just about sex and social status, and there is more to self-improve than that
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>>205929
i never had to self-improve and im doing fine, it's obvious to any normgroids you're a loser if you're trying to self-improve
i never had to self-improve and im doing fine, it's obvious to any normgroids you're a loser if you're trying to self-improve
>>205931
>it's obvious to any normgroids you're a loser if you're trying to self-improve
false since it's normgroids and nobody else the ones who buy into self improvement. Why is it that every anime reaction poster is such a retard?
>it's obvious to any normgroids you're a loser if you're trying to self-improve
false since it's normgroids and nobody else the ones who buy into self improvement. Why is it that every anime reaction poster is such a retard?
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When I had no agreeable reason to keep it anymore.
Wizchan should just split up into two groups, one of them being the guys who want to get more out of life and the other one being the guys who just want to jerk off and smoke weed all day. The only reason why the latter ones get upset at the others is because they are jealous, don't belive in themselves or they are scared to get left behind if others stop rotting in drugs and porn and that's why they accuse them of being normies which is also ironic because watching porn, jerking off and taking drugs are typical normie activities much more so than doing something productive.
>>205924
STD's are pretty rampant in retirment homes? comment checks out. those places are dens of depraved sex. visited my grandma in one once. it was like a nonstop, dry orgy in there.
STD's are pretty rampant in retirment homes? comment checks out. those places are dens of depraved sex. visited my grandma in one once. it was like a nonstop, dry orgy in there.
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>>205940
who's saying that the wizards fit into the latter category aren't getting the most out of life? your notion on what is a failure or not is similar to that of society
you're putting your crab in the bucket mentality on display right now by being appalled by the possibility of someone being content with doing something that you're discontent with, which is doing nothing all day but things that they enjoy and things that from your point of view are "unproductive" (highly subjective), so you feel compelled to put them down, by making the assumption that everyone who is not an improvebrah failed normalfag like you must be a drug addict, among others
who's saying that the wizards fit into the latter category aren't getting the most out of life? your notion on what is a failure or not is similar to that of society
you're putting your crab in the bucket mentality on display right now by being appalled by the possibility of someone being content with doing something that you're discontent with, which is doing nothing all day but things that they enjoy and things that from your point of view are "unproductive" (highly subjective), so you feel compelled to put them down, by making the assumption that everyone who is not an improvebrah failed normalfag like you must be a drug addict, among others
>>205944
you should have just deleted your gay thread after post 1.
"just jerk off and move on with your day. wtf"
i think u wanted the improvebrahs to come tell you about how doing pushups cures schizophrenia and you like this thread direction.
you should have just deleted your gay thread after post 1.
"just jerk off and move on with your day. wtf"
i think u wanted the improvebrahs to come tell you about how doing pushups cures schizophrenia and you like this thread direction.
>>205948
i usually avoid telling people to kill themselves on this website but retards like you have been tempting me quite heavily as of late, why don't you just fuck off back to wherever you came from?
i usually avoid telling people to kill themselves on this website but retards like you have been tempting me quite heavily as of late, why don't you just fuck off back to wherever you came from?
>>205914
You don't know anything about me. Disturbing that from 2 sentences you think you can apply all these absurd stereotypes. Hope you can reflect upon this.
Free will is an illusion. I do not control who I am or where I am going. That doesnt mean I will take responsibility in some cases but not others. The awareness of this also has no bearing on my actions. Applying statistical stereotypes to outliers on an imageboard like this is a mistake. Maybe I am a rich wizchad crypto owner with a big inheritance that sits around reading Buddhist books about how the self and the ego is an illusion? Or I am an impoverished rat sitting in filth trying to cope? Who knows.
You are perfect just how you are, too. People here are extremely hostile to each other. Sometimes people here apply very harsh judgement to themselves; sometimes they only apply to others, in a struggle to find self-acceptance. Few can apply non-judgment to both themselves and others. It would be amazingly transformative if evern a few people here could really understand what I am saying.
You don't know anything about me. Disturbing that from 2 sentences you think you can apply all these absurd stereotypes. Hope you can reflect upon this.
Free will is an illusion. I do not control who I am or where I am going. That doesnt mean I will take responsibility in some cases but not others. The awareness of this also has no bearing on my actions. Applying statistical stereotypes to outliers on an imageboard like this is a mistake. Maybe I am a rich wizchad crypto owner with a big inheritance that sits around reading Buddhist books about how the self and the ego is an illusion? Or I am an impoverished rat sitting in filth trying to cope? Who knows.
You are perfect just how you are, too. People here are extremely hostile to each other. Sometimes people here apply very harsh judgement to themselves; sometimes they only apply to others, in a struggle to find self-acceptance. Few can apply non-judgment to both themselves and others. It would be amazingly transformative if evern a few people here could really understand what I am saying.
>>205951
>You are perfect just how you are, too.
I don't think that's true at all and assuming you're perfect as you are will open quite a dark mental rabbithole for you to fall into.
I'm done with discussing why its useful to do worthwile things because most of the really hostile posters are in their early 20s anyway and they literally don't know shit about how their life will turn out or if they will still enjoy doing the same stuff once they are turning 30. Talking anything about 'true wizardry' or calling others names for suggesting productive things is rather cute and naive when they are not even 25 years old yet but once they get close to 30 they will notice how not everything was 'improvebrah' advice but I also understand that most early 20 year olds are not able to grasp this yet especially when mental stuff is involved.
>You are perfect just how you are, too.
I don't think that's true at all and assuming you're perfect as you are will open quite a dark mental rabbithole for you to fall into.
I'm done with discussing why its useful to do worthwile things because most of the really hostile posters are in their early 20s anyway and they literally don't know shit about how their life will turn out or if they will still enjoy doing the same stuff once they are turning 30. Talking anything about 'true wizardry' or calling others names for suggesting productive things is rather cute and naive when they are not even 25 years old yet but once they get close to 30 they will notice how not everything was 'improvebrah' advice but I also understand that most early 20 year olds are not able to grasp this yet especially when mental stuff is involved.
>>205947
>i think u wanted the improvebrahs to come tell you about how doing pushups cures schizophrenia and you like this thread direction.
it's how it always is with these threads
>i think u wanted the improvebrahs to come tell you about how doing pushups cures schizophrenia and you like this thread direction.
it's how it always is with these threads
>>205940
youd just go over to the truwiz threads and tell them to lift weights there, too. youd start out small to avoid getting banned until you post your weightlifting diarrhea so much that it's all there is anymore and the mods are so inactive they'd just assume "well thats the culture now" and let it happen unchallenged.
what ive just described to you is literally the history of the website. youd have been banned for this post 10 years ago, but now there's so many andrew tate retards spamming here that they outnumber wizards and the mods would just have to ban the whole site to stop you from giving each other improvebrah advice to yourselves. youre just asking for a repeat of the site, well you're already existing in the aftermath of what you described.
youd just go over to the truwiz threads and tell them to lift weights there, too. youd start out small to avoid getting banned until you post your weightlifting diarrhea so much that it's all there is anymore and the mods are so inactive they'd just assume "well thats the culture now" and let it happen unchallenged.
what ive just described to you is literally the history of the website. youd have been banned for this post 10 years ago, but now there's so many andrew tate retards spamming here that they outnumber wizards and the mods would just have to ban the whole site to stop you from giving each other improvebrah advice to yourselves. youre just asking for a repeat of the site, well you're already existing in the aftermath of what you described.
>>205966
telling volcels to workout has never been against any rule
even insulting wizards who dont workout wouldn't be against the rules
> Do not disparage or show contempt for the celibate, NEET, or reclusive lifestyles.
so everything other than virginity and neetdom is up for grabs
telling volcels to workout has never been against any rule
even insulting wizards who dont workout wouldn't be against the rules
> Do not disparage or show contempt for the celibate, NEET, or reclusive lifestyles.
so everything other than virginity and neetdom is up for grabs
>>205968
yea maybe youre right, maybe what was different back in 2012 was millionaire philanthropists lying about lifting weights and raw meat diets curing schizophrenia was laughed at and considered down's syndrome asian mysticism, rather than being beloved and shilled on every website in the world regardless of topic. so it just wasnt in the cards to ban it back then, it was a joke. it still should be a joke.
yea maybe youre right, maybe what was different back in 2012 was millionaire philanthropists lying about lifting weights and raw meat diets curing schizophrenia was laughed at and considered down's syndrome asian mysticism, rather than being beloved and shilled on every website in the world regardless of topic. so it just wasnt in the cards to ban it back then, it was a joke. it still should be a joke.
>>205970
>maybe what was different back in 2012 was millionaire philanthropists lying about lifting weights and raw meat diets curing schizophrenia was laughed at and considered down's syndrome asian mysticism
The problem is that you fail to realize that not everything correlates and you're the retard if you think everyhing is "self improvement" stuff. The ones who see Andre Tate stuff behind a reasonable suggestion to excercise or to cut down on weed and porn are just as bad as the Andrew Tate faggots themselves.
>maybe what was different back in 2012 was millionaire philanthropists lying about lifting weights and raw meat diets curing schizophrenia was laughed at and considered down's syndrome asian mysticism
The problem is that you fail to realize that not everything correlates and you're the retard if you think everyhing is "self improvement" stuff. The ones who see Andre Tate stuff behind a reasonable suggestion to excercise or to cut down on weed and porn are just as bad as the Andrew Tate faggots themselves.
>>205971
>2012
>no mental illness RE: fapping and no spam about health on wizchan
>self-help gurus were mocked even by normalfags
>2023
>every thread on the site except for /b/ is RE: fapping mental illness buhh please help me touching my penis is ruining my life, diet and exercise
>self-help gurus, elon musk and tucker carlson are the most popular people in the world currently
no correlation at all
>2012
>no mental illness RE: fapping and no spam about health on wizchan
>self-help gurus were mocked even by normalfags
>2023
>every thread on the site except for /b/ is RE: fapping mental illness buhh please help me touching my penis is ruining my life, diet and exercise
>self-help gurus, elon musk and tucker carlson are the most popular people in the world currently
no correlation at all
>>205951
>You don't know anything about me.
i feel like i know everything about you. you are just a npc who sings the song of your people. free will is what seperates Pinocchio from a real human child.
i do appreciate your perspective on peace but apparently you have never lit your own candle, which is sad.
if you saw me thriving you would instantly be drawn to it, and then instantly depressed because i could tell that you seek things you could very well ignite in yourself, outside where it can not be found and subsequently reject you.
from that perspective your life is a boring illusion. how can you claim i don't know you when i have identified in you the most fundamental error a human can be tricked into believing?
>You don't know anything about me.
i feel like i know everything about you. you are just a npc who sings the song of your people. free will is what seperates Pinocchio from a real human child.
i do appreciate your perspective on peace but apparently you have never lit your own candle, which is sad.
if you saw me thriving you would instantly be drawn to it, and then instantly depressed because i could tell that you seek things you could very well ignite in yourself, outside where it can not be found and subsequently reject you.
from that perspective your life is a boring illusion. how can you claim i don't know you when i have identified in you the most fundamental error a human can be tricked into believing?
>>205977
Not having free will, means you do what your character makes you do, which means being true to your character and who you are in essence.
The true freedom to defy determinism, and act completely random, unpredictably, against your own character, that is just madness and temporary insanity.
Not having free will, means you do what your character makes you do, which means being true to your character and who you are in essence.
The true freedom to defy determinism, and act completely random, unpredictably, against your own character, that is just madness and temporary insanity.
>>205978
free will is accessible to those who believe in it. it is also the eternal excuse and scapegoat for those who refuse to take responsibility for their actions.
it is a measurement of how strong the denial is in you. a habitual denier hates the idea of being responsible for his actions and thus will campaign against this idea.
i see someone who denies free will and i see someone who was hurt who has decided it is best to hurt others and the denial of free will is the best move to help reduce the backlash and revenge.
free will is accessible to those who believe in it. it is also the eternal excuse and scapegoat for those who refuse to take responsibility for their actions.
it is a measurement of how strong the denial is in you. a habitual denier hates the idea of being responsible for his actions and thus will campaign against this idea.
i see someone who denies free will and i see someone who was hurt who has decided it is best to hurt others and the denial of free will is the best move to help reduce the backlash and revenge.
>>205981
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Freedom_of_the_Will
According to Schopenhauer we are most responsible for what we do most unfreely. If an evil person does an evil act, it is in character.
But if a person who has been good his whole life, suddenly shoots a random person out of no where. we would be more likely to excuse it, as just temporary insanity.
so you see when we act "freely" or randomly, we are actually less responsible for it. because it is out of character. character being how we have acted in the past.
we are our character, personality, essence, DNA, and so being determined by that, means being determined by ourselves. acting contrary to that, is when we are least ourselves. not being ourself is hardly a freedom worth clinging to.
free will is just slavery to randomness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Freedom_of_the_Will
According to Schopenhauer we are most responsible for what we do most unfreely. If an evil person does an evil act, it is in character.
But if a person who has been good his whole life, suddenly shoots a random person out of no where. we would be more likely to excuse it, as just temporary insanity.
so you see when we act "freely" or randomly, we are actually less responsible for it. because it is out of character. character being how we have acted in the past.
we are our character, personality, essence, DNA, and so being determined by that, means being determined by ourselves. acting contrary to that, is when we are least ourselves. not being ourself is hardly a freedom worth clinging to.
free will is just slavery to randomness
>>205982
>so you see
i don't. there is autopilot and there is manual piloting.
there is habitual breathing and there is manual breathing.
there are people who get angry when the "you are breathing manually now" meme is played on them. i am not like them. i am grateful for the reminder to stay out of autopilot.
>so you see
i don't. there is autopilot and there is manual piloting.
there is habitual breathing and there is manual breathing.
there are people who get angry when the "you are breathing manually now" meme is played on them. i am not like them. i am grateful for the reminder to stay out of autopilot.
>>205983
hey man this was the Prize essay presented to the Royal Norwegian Society of Sciences in 1839
hey man this was the Prize essay presented to the Royal Norwegian Society of Sciences in 1839
>>205985
>hey man this was the Prize essay presented to the Royal Norwegian Society of Sciences in 1839
so that's why it is important to you, not because it makes sense to you but because there is social status behind it.
i long for the world where you puppets speak for yourself and use your own brain to turn your own thoughts into your own words only to finally no longer have the ability to reasonably deny that all the disrespect that you receive through accurate prejudice is actually deserved even after the fact.
>hey man this was the Prize essay presented to the Royal Norwegian Society of Sciences in 1839
so that's why it is important to you, not because it makes sense to you but because there is social status behind it.
i long for the world where you puppets speak for yourself and use your own brain to turn your own thoughts into your own words only to finally no longer have the ability to reasonably deny that all the disrespect that you receive through accurate prejudice is actually deserved even after the fact.
>>205989
this is why we have contests conducted by Academies of Science, because there has to be a method for finding truth, 2 random guys on the internet aren't going to figure it out ourselves
this is why we have contests conducted by Academies of Science, because there has to be a method for finding truth, 2 random guys on the internet aren't going to figure it out ourselves
>>205990
and as a means of protection the puppet again shifts into collective identity. more news at midnight.
and as a means of protection the puppet again shifts into collective identity. more news at midnight.
i just don’t want to see succubi at all anymore. i’ll jerk off once in awhile for 15 minutes but outside that i prefer to forget succubi exist.
>>205989
you didn't even read it yet you are mocking it, you are just going off wikipedia summaries and shit, aka other people's output. you are no better than him.
you didn't even read it yet you are mocking it, you are just going off wikipedia summaries and shit, aka other people's output. you are no better than him.
>>205982
>we are our character, personality, essence, DNA, and so being determined by that, means being determined by ourselves.
you know what after some deliberation i find i actually agree. what got me out of my depression was contemplating who/what i was, i had to ask myself "was i born a weak faggot loser?", and upon deciding/realizing the answer was no i could no longer be depressed. for so long i had erroneously characterized this as just choosing not to be depressed with my own free will, but really that is just a downstream effect of realizing who i am.
and with who you are, your essence, it is very much malleable. if you think it then it is so, there is nothing stopping you from contemplating yourself and finding out something that completely changes how you act. but according to our friend schopenhauer men are not free from the laws of cause and effect, so if we act a certain way today completely determined by our essence, and act differently tomorrow still completely determined by our essence, our essence must have actually changed, and that is what i believe we have come to know as free will.
furthermore since there is no right or wrong answer to the question "who am i" i dont think you can argue any factor could sway you in any direction. it doesnt matter how intelligent you are or what you have been told/made to believe about yourself, you alone can determine the truth of the matter. and since it must really be the truth, it also has to be backed by actions, actions that yesterday you had no motivations to perform, thus appearing to outside observers that one has exercised "free will" in the matter.
>we are our character, personality, essence, DNA, and so being determined by that, means being determined by ourselves.
you know what after some deliberation i find i actually agree. what got me out of my depression was contemplating who/what i was, i had to ask myself "was i born a weak faggot loser?", and upon deciding/realizing the answer was no i could no longer be depressed. for so long i had erroneously characterized this as just choosing not to be depressed with my own free will, but really that is just a downstream effect of realizing who i am.
and with who you are, your essence, it is very much malleable. if you think it then it is so, there is nothing stopping you from contemplating yourself and finding out something that completely changes how you act. but according to our friend schopenhauer men are not free from the laws of cause and effect, so if we act a certain way today completely determined by our essence, and act differently tomorrow still completely determined by our essence, our essence must have actually changed, and that is what i believe we have come to know as free will.
furthermore since there is no right or wrong answer to the question "who am i" i dont think you can argue any factor could sway you in any direction. it doesnt matter how intelligent you are or what you have been told/made to believe about yourself, you alone can determine the truth of the matter. and since it must really be the truth, it also has to be backed by actions, actions that yesterday you had no motivations to perform, thus appearing to outside observers that one has exercised "free will" in the matter.
>>206000
our friend Schopenhauer also believes that character is immutable and unchangeable. a bad man is always a bad man, although under improved circumstances he might not show it as much, but give him temptation and it'll come rolling back
our friend Schopenhauer also believes that character is immutable and unchangeable. a bad man is always a bad man, although under improved circumstances he might not show it as much, but give him temptation and it'll come rolling back
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>>206001
>our friend Schopenhauer also believes that character is immutable and unchangeable
he fled from one folly and ran head first into another. man is not above any law, period. save for god, nothing escapes change. there is not one thing in the world that can remain static in the face of time, even the earth itself will be unrecognizable eventually.
for more information on inescapable laws of the universe, see the pdf ive attached.
>our friend Schopenhauer also believes that character is immutable and unchangeable
he fled from one folly and ran head first into another. man is not above any law, period. save for god, nothing escapes change. there is not one thing in the world that can remain static in the face of time, even the earth itself will be unrecognizable eventually.
for more information on inescapable laws of the universe, see the pdf ive attached.
>>205998
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>>206000
the dude (Schopenhauer) leaves me unsatisfied. maybe i am culturally too different, i keep waiting for the interesting parts. whenever i bother trying to connect with his writing i keep waiting for any juicy parts that i can connect with what i believe to be worthwhile. i don't think i would follow shopenhauer on twitter if he would be alive today. very slim chance i would subscribe to his youtube channel.
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>>206000
the dude (Schopenhauer) leaves me unsatisfied. maybe i am culturally too different, i keep waiting for the interesting parts. whenever i bother trying to connect with his writing i keep waiting for any juicy parts that i can connect with what i believe to be worthwhile. i don't think i would follow shopenhauer on twitter if he would be alive today. very slim chance i would subscribe to his youtube channel.
>>206048
but he despairs over how horrible being alive is, and i relate to that, and all his metaphysics is just a more elaborate way of showing how the whole structure of the cosmos proves it
but he despairs over how horrible being alive is, and i relate to that, and all his metaphysics is just a more elaborate way of showing how the whole structure of the cosmos proves it
>>206009
>laws of the…
i always cringe at this choice of words. using 'law' to describe phenomena on a grand scope to me feels like trying to bother your friends into using your own name as a positive adjective.
it seems so petty and desperate to declare human-made rules as a scale to compare nature to.
laws of physics. the fuck? it should be called reality of physics. gravity is real. law is a theater, it only exists for as long as it is upheld with violence. gravity exists regardless.
i consider this type of propaganda disrespectful to nature.
>laws of the…
i always cringe at this choice of words. using 'law' to describe phenomena on a grand scope to me feels like trying to bother your friends into using your own name as a positive adjective.
it seems so petty and desperate to declare human-made rules as a scale to compare nature to.
laws of physics. the fuck? it should be called reality of physics. gravity is real. law is a theater, it only exists for as long as it is upheld with violence. gravity exists regardless.
i consider this type of propaganda disrespectful to nature.
>>206050
law just means it'll always happen as opposed to just being very probable
its a way of saying 100% not 99.9999%
law just means it'll always happen as opposed to just being very probable
its a way of saying 100% not 99.9999%
>>206049
>but he despairs over how horrible being alive is
it's not really horrible to be alive, that's just a consequence of the current cultural belief that 'the ends justify the means' that is manifesting itself painfully.
it's actually quite easy to be a blissfully content healthy and thriving human. it's just that in the climate of cultural war the need for drowning people in problems is so high that artificial problems are being used to flood the humans into depression.
the hardware for human life to be paradise is already deployed in the nervous system but people choose not to initialize it. human addiction to needless suffering and idiocy.
>but he despairs over how horrible being alive is
it's not really horrible to be alive, that's just a consequence of the current cultural belief that 'the ends justify the means' that is manifesting itself painfully.
it's actually quite easy to be a blissfully content healthy and thriving human. it's just that in the climate of cultural war the need for drowning people in problems is so high that artificial problems are being used to flood the humans into depression.
the hardware for human life to be paradise is already deployed in the nervous system but people choose not to initialize it. human addiction to needless suffering and idiocy.
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>>206051
>law just means it'll always happen as opposed to just being very probable
the founding myth of law was that nobody is above it. today law is just an a means to an end.
>law just means it'll always happen as opposed to just being very probable
the founding myth of law was that nobody is above it. today law is just an a means to an end.
>>206052
I dont like the culture wars either, but its pretty 1st world problems, to think that is the only reason to be depressed, and is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
I dont like the culture wars either, but its pretty 1st world problems, to think that is the only reason to be depressed, and is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
>>206054
3rd world tries to become 2nd world. they can't be happy because they aren't 2nd world yet.
2nd world tries to become 1st world. they can't be happy because they aren't 1st world yet.
they all think living 1st world is nice, yet ask a person in the first world if they are happy to be alive and they will say something like you or like Schopenhauer that it is horrible to be alive.
i guess what seperates me from yall involuntary celibates is that i know life could be nice and i have tasted this rare state. there is a lot of stuff possible that basic scrubs don't even believe and they swear it doesn't exist. with all their pretend confidence they will tell me that what i have seen doesn't exist; maybe that just means they are dumb and have not found it and there is nothing more to it.
3rd world tries to become 2nd world. they can't be happy because they aren't 2nd world yet.
2nd world tries to become 1st world. they can't be happy because they aren't 1st world yet.
they all think living 1st world is nice, yet ask a person in the first world if they are happy to be alive and they will say something like you or like Schopenhauer that it is horrible to be alive.
i guess what seperates me from yall involuntary celibates is that i know life could be nice and i have tasted this rare state. there is a lot of stuff possible that basic scrubs don't even believe and they swear it doesn't exist. with all their pretend confidence they will tell me that what i have seen doesn't exist; maybe that just means they are dumb and have not found it and there is nothing more to it.
>>206051
>law just means it'll always happen as opposed to just being very probable
you choose to not see the arrogance in that. law doesn't always happen. law isn't 100%. law is acted out, gravity really happens without countless little flawed human helpers. gravity is flawless.
>law just means it'll always happen as opposed to just being very probable
you choose to not see the arrogance in that. law doesn't always happen. law isn't 100%. law is acted out, gravity really happens without countless little flawed human helpers. gravity is flawless.
>>206050
>law is a theater, it only exists for as long as it is upheld with violence.
>i consider this type of propaganda disrespectful to nature.
youre the one whos fallen for propaganda, as you believe lawyers and courts and legislation have anything to do with law. etymologically the word law means "that which is laid down, or that which is set/established (i.e. reality)", stemming from some old norse word. men in fancy suits would like to convince you that they are the authors of law, and so they call themselves lawyers and say they deal with laws. in reality though all they do is say things, their statutes codes and regulations bear no resemblance to real laws which are immutable, static, and inescapable. however lawyers and legislators want to portray a certain image and so they use favorable language to describe themselves, like how an advertiser would describe a product.
>law is a theater, it only exists for as long as it is upheld with violence.
>i consider this type of propaganda disrespectful to nature.
youre the one whos fallen for propaganda, as you believe lawyers and courts and legislation have anything to do with law. etymologically the word law means "that which is laid down, or that which is set/established (i.e. reality)", stemming from some old norse word. men in fancy suits would like to convince you that they are the authors of law, and so they call themselves lawyers and say they deal with laws. in reality though all they do is say things, their statutes codes and regulations bear no resemblance to real laws which are immutable, static, and inescapable. however lawyers and legislators want to portray a certain image and so they use favorable language to describe themselves, like how an advertiser would describe a product.
>>206055
Yeah you are right, Schop thinks there is something to be gained through poverty suffering.
He even coined the term "involuntary trappist", which is like the earliest 1800s use of a term very similar to imcel.
basically people in poverty have to live like monks, so they gain the same spiritual benefits of monks.
https://archive.is/5PArB#selection-1037.0-1037.30
The number of regular Trappists is naturally small; but yet half of mankind consists of involuntary Trappists; poverty, obedience, absence of all pleasures and even of the most necessary means of relief, and frequently also chastity that is forced or brought about through want or some defect, are their lot. The difference is simply that the Trappists pursue the matter of their own free choice, methodically and without hope of any change for the better; whereas the other way is to be ranged with what I have described in my ascetic chapters by the expression [x]. [10] Therefore by virtue of the basis of her order, nature has already taken adequate care to bring this about, especially if we add to the evils that spring directly from her those others that are produced by the discord, dissension, and malice of men in war and peace. But this very necessity of involuntary suffering for eternal salvation is also expressed by that utterance of the Saviour (Matthew 19: 24): [x]. (Facilius est, funem ancorarium per foramen acus transire, quam divitem regnum divinum ingredi.) [11] Therefore those who were greatly in earnest about their eternal salvation, chose voluntary poverty when fate had denied this to them and they had been born in wealth. Thus Buddha Sakya Muni was born a prince, but voluntarily took to the mendicant's staff; and Francis of Assisi, the founder of the mendicant orders who, as a youngster at the ball, where the daughters of all the notabilities were sitting together, was asked: 'Now, Francis, will you not soon make your choice from these beauties?' and who replied: 'I have made a far more beautiful choice!' 'Whom?' 'La poverta'; whereupon he abandoned every thing shortly afterwards and wandered through the land as a mendicant.
Whoever through such considerations realizes how necessary to our salvation misery and suffering usually are will see that we should envy others their unhappiness rather than their happiness.
For the same reason, the stoicism of the disposition which defies fate is also, it is true, a good armour against the sufferings of life and helps us to endure the present; but it stands in the way of true salvation, for it hardens the heart. Indeed, how can this be improved by sufferings if it is surrounded by a crust of stone and does not feel them? Moreover, a certain degree of this stoicism is not very rare. Often it may be affectation and amount to a bonne mine au mauvais jeu; [12] where, however, it is genuine and unfeigned, it springs in most cases from a mere want of feeling, from a lack of energy, brightness, sensitiveness, and imagination, all of which are requisite to a great agony of sorrow. The phlegmatic and sluggish temperament of the Germans is particularly favourable to this kind of stoicism.
Yeah you are right, Schop thinks there is something to be gained through poverty suffering.
He even coined the term "involuntary trappist", which is like the earliest 1800s use of a term very similar to imcel.
basically people in poverty have to live like monks, so they gain the same spiritual benefits of monks.
https://archive.is/5PArB#selection-1037.0-1037.30
The number of regular Trappists is naturally small; but yet half of mankind consists of involuntary Trappists; poverty, obedience, absence of all pleasures and even of the most necessary means of relief, and frequently also chastity that is forced or brought about through want or some defect, are their lot. The difference is simply that the Trappists pursue the matter of their own free choice, methodically and without hope of any change for the better; whereas the other way is to be ranged with what I have described in my ascetic chapters by the expression [x]. [10] Therefore by virtue of the basis of her order, nature has already taken adequate care to bring this about, especially if we add to the evils that spring directly from her those others that are produced by the discord, dissension, and malice of men in war and peace. But this very necessity of involuntary suffering for eternal salvation is also expressed by that utterance of the Saviour (Matthew 19: 24): [x]. (Facilius est, funem ancorarium per foramen acus transire, quam divitem regnum divinum ingredi.) [11] Therefore those who were greatly in earnest about their eternal salvation, chose voluntary poverty when fate had denied this to them and they had been born in wealth. Thus Buddha Sakya Muni was born a prince, but voluntarily took to the mendicant's staff; and Francis of Assisi, the founder of the mendicant orders who, as a youngster at the ball, where the daughters of all the notabilities were sitting together, was asked: 'Now, Francis, will you not soon make your choice from these beauties?' and who replied: 'I have made a far more beautiful choice!' 'Whom?' 'La poverta'; whereupon he abandoned every thing shortly afterwards and wandered through the land as a mendicant.
Whoever through such considerations realizes how necessary to our salvation misery and suffering usually are will see that we should envy others their unhappiness rather than their happiness.
For the same reason, the stoicism of the disposition which defies fate is also, it is true, a good armour against the sufferings of life and helps us to endure the present; but it stands in the way of true salvation, for it hardens the heart. Indeed, how can this be improved by sufferings if it is surrounded by a crust of stone and does not feel them? Moreover, a certain degree of this stoicism is not very rare. Often it may be affectation and amount to a bonne mine au mauvais jeu; [12] where, however, it is genuine and unfeigned, it springs in most cases from a mere want of feeling, from a lack of energy, brightness, sensitiveness, and imagination, all of which are requisite to a great agony of sorrow. The phlegmatic and sluggish temperament of the Germans is particularly favourable to this kind of stoicism.
>>206057
i couldn't care less about etymology. you are of course correct from your perspective, i am not trying to take away from it, but words change their meaning. as psychopaths use the symbolism of humans to describe the world (picture teachers trying to use the language of young people to associate it with their homework or other propaganda; putting the '100 emoji' on homework questions) they are trying to force on the humans through violence, manipulation and conspiracy, it is up to the humans to find different ways of expression as to uphold the destinction between the humans and the psychopaths who try to infiltrate.
cool people dress weird until everybody does it, which then forces cool people to dress even weirder as to maintain the distance to the stupid puppets. that's fashion. people trying to dress to not look like insurance salespeople while insurance salespeople greedily stare at the cool people and try to imitate their way of clothing, thus besmirching it in their attempt to infiltrate humanity and convince others they belong to the species.
i couldn't care less about etymology. you are of course correct from your perspective, i am not trying to take away from it, but words change their meaning. as psychopaths use the symbolism of humans to describe the world (picture teachers trying to use the language of young people to associate it with their homework or other propaganda; putting the '100 emoji' on homework questions) they are trying to force on the humans through violence, manipulation and conspiracy, it is up to the humans to find different ways of expression as to uphold the destinction between the humans and the psychopaths who try to infiltrate.
cool people dress weird until everybody does it, which then forces cool people to dress even weirder as to maintain the distance to the stupid puppets. that's fashion. people trying to dress to not look like insurance salespeople while insurance salespeople greedily stare at the cool people and try to imitate their way of clothing, thus besmirching it in their attempt to infiltrate humanity and convince others they belong to the species.
>>206058
>basically people in poverty have to live like monks, so they gain the same spiritual benefits of monks.
that's actually not far of from what i believe. living with little luxury increases the chance to find the life beyond material gain.
i don't think it necessarily relates to poverty or suffering, i believe it is more related to lack of distraction. basically if you just apply the wisdom of the popup blocker to enough of your life outside the browser, you'll find the shining light that those who are trapped are very unlikely to encounter.
while diving deep into conservative/rightwing/nazi/white supremacist parts of the internet i was most amused by their expression for what i believe to be the same phenomenon, somewhat antisemitic of course.
they call what i call distraction a "talmudic repetition game" which i thought to be a hilariously innocent and gentle expression of antisemitism.
>basically people in poverty have to live like monks, so they gain the same spiritual benefits of monks.
that's actually not far of from what i believe. living with little luxury increases the chance to find the life beyond material gain.
i don't think it necessarily relates to poverty or suffering, i believe it is more related to lack of distraction. basically if you just apply the wisdom of the popup blocker to enough of your life outside the browser, you'll find the shining light that those who are trapped are very unlikely to encounter.
while diving deep into conservative/rightwing/nazi/white supremacist parts of the internet i was most amused by their expression for what i believe to be the same phenomenon, somewhat antisemitic of course.
they call what i call distraction a "talmudic repetition game" which i thought to be a hilariously innocent and gentle expression of antisemitism.
>>206058
i read your selection, i almost feel words are insufficient to express how profound and meaningful the ideas behind it are. 🙆🏻♂️
it's a shame these ideas are not expressed in a more accessible manner. if you could translate choice passages like that into videos consisting of memes, pictures, videoclips, soundeffects, you'd have quite the worthy content to upload on titok.
there is this video on youtube that has mesmerized me quite a bit that comes to mind. it is called "The Late Capitalism of K-Pop" which i thought to be a beautiful fusion of philosophic effort and modern accessibility.
i read your selection, i almost feel words are insufficient to express how profound and meaningful the ideas behind it are. 🙆🏻♂️
it's a shame these ideas are not expressed in a more accessible manner. if you could translate choice passages like that into videos consisting of memes, pictures, videoclips, soundeffects, you'd have quite the worthy content to upload on titok.
there is this video on youtube that has mesmerized me quite a bit that comes to mind. it is called "The Late Capitalism of K-Pop" which i thought to be a beautiful fusion of philosophic effort and modern accessibility.
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>>206096
>The Late Capitalism of K-Pop
i've watched the video once a year at least since it came out and every time i appreciate it more.
it's quite fortunate that the author talked about something where such a cornucopia of visuals were available and it's quite fortunate that he was able to find those illustrating the exact things he was talking about in the endless hours of video available.
to me this video represents a rare, shining example of the heights a thinking human can reach when he really tries to use communication as a tool to express ideas to other humans.
and to establish once again connection to the original topic of this thread, seeing these cultural mechanisms in my own culture play out, turning females into pawns of a system this evil, really killed my sex drive. seeing a female participate in evil of this grand scope makes me consider her vagina the last place i could possibly care about.
seeing females participate in evil makes my boner go soft.
>The Late Capitalism of K-Pop
i've watched the video once a year at least since it came out and every time i appreciate it more.
it's quite fortunate that the author talked about something where such a cornucopia of visuals were available and it's quite fortunate that he was able to find those illustrating the exact things he was talking about in the endless hours of video available.
to me this video represents a rare, shining example of the heights a thinking human can reach when he really tries to use communication as a tool to express ideas to other humans.
and to establish once again connection to the original topic of this thread, seeing these cultural mechanisms in my own culture play out, turning females into pawns of a system this evil, really killed my sex drive. seeing a female participate in evil of this grand scope makes me consider her vagina the last place i could possibly care about.
seeing females participate in evil makes my boner go soft.
Im in my 30s as well, i still have a sex drive but its diminished, when i was younger i could fap and edge like 8 times a day, now i go weeks without fapping
>>205782
Check your testosterone levels and lower them until you feel comfortable with your libido.
Some succubi that are on the pill regularly take testosterone to increase their libido because the pill lowers it. You can do the opposite.
Some diets can help with that, that is usually the best way if your levels are not very high. If you have naturally high levels of testosterone you can always use androgen suppressors with much care to not end up screwing up your endocrine system and developing tits in the process. Consult your doctor, always.
Check your testosterone levels and lower them until you feel comfortable with your libido.
Some succubi that are on the pill regularly take testosterone to increase their libido because the pill lowers it. You can do the opposite.
Some diets can help with that, that is usually the best way if your levels are not very high. If you have naturally high levels of testosterone you can always use androgen suppressors with much care to not end up screwing up your endocrine system and developing tits in the process. Consult your doctor, always.
>>206140
maybe have a fake argument with yourself from two different IP adresses, that's how they like to shut down unwelcome threads here.
maybe have a fake argument with yourself from two different IP adresses, that's how they like to shut down unwelcome threads here.
>>206150
when the wizmods are behind it then it might be pointless but when just some external asshole wants to trick the mouth-breathing mods into locking a thread to censor conversation about something then they would act like they have a heated debate and then the mods close the thread and believe they contribute to a peaceful board by shutting down a battlefield and preserve peace on the board while they actually just cave to injustice.
the part that squeaks gets the oil.
when the wizmods are behind it then it might be pointless but when just some external asshole wants to trick the mouth-breathing mods into locking a thread to censor conversation about something then they would act like they have a heated debate and then the mods close the thread and believe they contribute to a peaceful board by shutting down a battlefield and preserve peace on the board while they actually just cave to injustice.
the part that squeaks gets the oil.
>>206153
>I have exactly one post in this thread which is the one you replied to and I really can't be bothered to invest time into samefagging whole threads like a schizo,
i'm gonna press the unsubscribe button on your identity drama.
>I have exactly one post in this thread which is the one you replied to and I really can't be bothered to invest time into samefagging whole threads like a schizo,
i'm gonna press the unsubscribe button on your identity drama.
>>206152
just admit that you are the leftist shill poster who got banned. you cant make it even more obvious since your low quality threads were the only ones getting locked recently and this is most likely another one of your shill threads
just admit that you are the leftist shill poster who got banned. you cant make it even more obvious since your low quality threads were the only ones getting locked recently and this is most likely another one of your shill threads
>>206159
You mean the guy who made a thread explicitly about leftism AND a thread claiming testosterone bad take pills & become a womyn? Fucking infiltrates can't even do their job right.
You mean the guy who made a thread explicitly about leftism AND a thread claiming testosterone bad take pills & become a womyn? Fucking infiltrates can't even do their job right.
>>206093
>words change their meaning
>i couldn't care less about etymology
just because you use a word incorrectly does not mean its meaning has changed. there is more to language than just sounds and letters, and having such a post-modernist perspective is robbing you of one of the greatest gifts you have ever received. in the same way that mathematics allows us to work with quantities greater than our number of fingers, english amplifies our reasoning capabilities well beyond what is natural in an enormous variety of domains. but by saying you dont really care about what words mean, youre lowering yourself to the level of a cave-dwelling nigger that uses the same word for every number past 3.
it is profoundly difficult to conceive of anything that has not been named, take the whole free will thing and the kybalion as an example. how long did it take for schopenhauer to come along and figure out that cause and effect applies to humans too? a very long time. even though scientists and physicists work with it every day, and it surrounds us entirely, it eluded all but a few that there could be a universal law at work. this is what i mean by extending our reasoning capabilities, it isnt immediately obvious to us that free will is illusory, but language allows us to pierce the veil. we understood a phenomenon in one domain, named it, and then were able to apply it where we would have never thought it could be at work because we understood the NAME, granting us power (that is the law of names/nouns).
so dont deceive yourself into thinking you know the meaning of a word, believing that words can just mean whatever. when i say "law of cause and effect" dont try to reconstruct its meaning in your head using what you can glean off of the context and what you already know. find its true meaning by studying its definition and etymology (less applicable in this case but still) and then you can use that to fill in where your perception and understanding fails to reach. people have already climbed that mountain of understanding and reached the peak, and from that peak they can see the whole base of the mountain, the manifestation of the phenomenon in its totality. they gave that understanding over to you in a word, if only you truly understood and applied it you would gain its power.
>words change their meaning
>i couldn't care less about etymology
just because you use a word incorrectly does not mean its meaning has changed. there is more to language than just sounds and letters, and having such a post-modernist perspective is robbing you of one of the greatest gifts you have ever received. in the same way that mathematics allows us to work with quantities greater than our number of fingers, english amplifies our reasoning capabilities well beyond what is natural in an enormous variety of domains. but by saying you dont really care about what words mean, youre lowering yourself to the level of a cave-dwelling nigger that uses the same word for every number past 3.
it is profoundly difficult to conceive of anything that has not been named, take the whole free will thing and the kybalion as an example. how long did it take for schopenhauer to come along and figure out that cause and effect applies to humans too? a very long time. even though scientists and physicists work with it every day, and it surrounds us entirely, it eluded all but a few that there could be a universal law at work. this is what i mean by extending our reasoning capabilities, it isnt immediately obvious to us that free will is illusory, but language allows us to pierce the veil. we understood a phenomenon in one domain, named it, and then were able to apply it where we would have never thought it could be at work because we understood the NAME, granting us power (that is the law of names/nouns).
so dont deceive yourself into thinking you know the meaning of a word, believing that words can just mean whatever. when i say "law of cause and effect" dont try to reconstruct its meaning in your head using what you can glean off of the context and what you already know. find its true meaning by studying its definition and etymology (less applicable in this case but still) and then you can use that to fill in where your perception and understanding fails to reach. people have already climbed that mountain of understanding and reached the peak, and from that peak they can see the whole base of the mountain, the manifestation of the phenomenon in its totality. they gave that understanding over to you in a word, if only you truly understood and applied it you would gain its power.
>>206247
>it is profoundly difficult to conceive of anything that has not been named
i see that language is a religion to you. for me it is a tool. i use it to communicate. if i perceive that the language i am using does a poor job of communicating to whoever i am speaking off, i try a different word.
you probably think in language. i prefer abstract thought. i guess you would insist on your particular belief of language (similar to a muslim believing his religion is the only one) and expect the other person to catch up to whatever you currently believe language is. that means the number of people you are able to communicate effectively with is quite limited and the percentage of communications you are able to understand with your strict definitions of words is also quite reduced.
>we understood a phenomenon in one domain, named it, and then were able to apply it where we would have never thought it could be at work because we understood the NAME, granting us power (that is the law of names/nouns).
what you call understanding i would call identification. similar to how you identified as more then one person in the post above, you believe understanding means being able to differentiate something enough to be able to describe it and research the opinion of the religion about it. to me understanding is something different, it involves experience, sensory perception and intimate knowledge of habitual relations with the environment.
>people have already climbed that mountain of understanding and reached the peak
lol i guess you were never smarter then your teachers and they actually provided you with interesting information you didn't have before. when i was in high school, the still growing internet was already so accessible to me that education became a torturous unimportant theater i was expected to participate in. the future was not equally distributed indeed…
>it is profoundly difficult to conceive of anything that has not been named
i see that language is a religion to you. for me it is a tool. i use it to communicate. if i perceive that the language i am using does a poor job of communicating to whoever i am speaking off, i try a different word.
you probably think in language. i prefer abstract thought. i guess you would insist on your particular belief of language (similar to a muslim believing his religion is the only one) and expect the other person to catch up to whatever you currently believe language is. that means the number of people you are able to communicate effectively with is quite limited and the percentage of communications you are able to understand with your strict definitions of words is also quite reduced.
>we understood a phenomenon in one domain, named it, and then were able to apply it where we would have never thought it could be at work because we understood the NAME, granting us power (that is the law of names/nouns).
what you call understanding i would call identification. similar to how you identified as more then one person in the post above, you believe understanding means being able to differentiate something enough to be able to describe it and research the opinion of the religion about it. to me understanding is something different, it involves experience, sensory perception and intimate knowledge of habitual relations with the environment.
>people have already climbed that mountain of understanding and reached the peak
lol i guess you were never smarter then your teachers and they actually provided you with interesting information you didn't have before. when i was in high school, the still growing internet was already so accessible to me that education became a torturous unimportant theater i was expected to participate in. the future was not equally distributed indeed…
>>205910
nothing bad about being a little fruitcakey from time to time
realtalk: I think you adequately expressed your view of people being able to change and life inevitably being in flux
maybe he got hung up on your slightly poetic list of contrasting examples
but really, without those your idea would simply amount to a rhetorically flat, robotic assertion of "no I don't think that one's life is as unchangeable and set in tracks as you say"
nothing bad about being a little fruitcakey from time to time
realtalk: I think you adequately expressed your view of people being able to change and life inevitably being in flux
maybe he got hung up on your slightly poetic list of contrasting examples
but really, without those your idea would simply amount to a rhetorically flat, robotic assertion of "no I don't think that one's life is as unchangeable and set in tracks as you say"
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>>206418
>nothing bad about being a little fruitcakey from time to time
>slightly poetic list
you must not have ever seen actual poetry. i try to use simple language and easy concepts because i know most posters here are dumb.
probably just drunk village idiots always having something to say, meaning you and the other post.
>nothing bad about being a little fruitcakey from time to time
>slightly poetic list
you must not have ever seen actual poetry. i try to use simple language and easy concepts because i know most posters here are dumb.
probably just drunk village idiots always having something to say, meaning you and the other post.
>>206442
I'm the guy who called your writing style 'fruitcakey' and it's not that deep, your point is good and the writing is not even bad. It was just a moment of unfiltered autism that made me point that out.
I'm the guy who called your writing style 'fruitcakey' and it's not that deep, your point is good and the writing is not even bad. It was just a moment of unfiltered autism that made me point that out.
>>205910
>how a tough guy like yourself would have expressed the thought
"If you work regularly you eventually get better."
>how a tough guy like yourself would have expressed the thought
"If you work regularly you eventually get better."
>>206443
JUST GOTTA NOFAP BRO. JUST NOFAP AND YOUR SEX DRIVE COMES BACK. GOTTA LIFT BRO. JUST GOTTA LIFT AND YOUR SEX DRIVE COMES BACK. JUST GOTTA–
JUST GOTTA NOFAP BRO. JUST NOFAP AND YOUR SEX DRIVE COMES BACK. GOTTA LIFT BRO. JUST GOTTA LIFT AND YOUR SEX DRIVE COMES BACK. JUST GOTTA–
>>206446
kek
outautisted by anon yet again
>>206442
i like that picture, would you mind if i save and share it?
>>206450
This would probably be doa for anyone who's antiwork (hates work being useless and just sutaining a pyramid and a few pharaos for 90% of its effort) and quite likely emotional and tending to not be ready to consider alternatives based on the fact they believe their life is doomed and hopeless
kek
outautisted by anon yet again
>>206442
i like that picture, would you mind if i save and share it?
>>206450
This would probably be doa for anyone who's antiwork (hates work being useless and just sutaining a pyramid and a few pharaos for 90% of its effort) and quite likely emotional and tending to not be ready to consider alternatives based on the fact they believe their life is doomed and hopeless
>>206449
>that pic is something my grandpa would've have printed out and put on a wall
i'm printing one picture a month so my printer doesn't dry out and that i don't forget that i have a functioning printer currently.
>that pic is something my grandpa would've have printed out and put on a wall
i'm printing one picture a month so my printer doesn't dry out and that i don't forget that i have a functioning printer currently.
>>206450
>"If you work regularly you eventually get better."
that's a shit way.
if-else is machine language.
"regularity" is not the central message of the idea.
"eventually" does not necessarily set up the right expectation of time frame.
"you work" belittles the concept. it is reducing this general idea to something specific, tailored to a person.
the central idea is that the potential for regeneration, repaid, healing, improving exists for the majority of situations.
i dunno man, if i was you i would work on my communication a bit before criticizing others. see that's why i write in simple language because i assume everyone is dumb like you. if i used complicated language and too abstract ideas, you would understand even less and you are already not understanding much.
>"If you work regularly you eventually get better."
that's a shit way.
if-else is machine language.
"regularity" is not the central message of the idea.
"eventually" does not necessarily set up the right expectation of time frame.
"you work" belittles the concept. it is reducing this general idea to something specific, tailored to a person.
the central idea is that the potential for regeneration, repaid, healing, improving exists for the majority of situations.
i dunno man, if i was you i would work on my communication a bit before criticizing others. see that's why i write in simple language because i assume everyone is dumb like you. if i used complicated language and too abstract ideas, you would understand even less and you are already not understanding much.
>>206484
>the central idea is that the potential for regeneration, repaid, healing, improving exists for the majority of situations.
THE CENTRAL IDEA IS THAT THE POTENTIAL EXISTS TO MAKE SITUATIONS BETTER.
if you are fat you can get thin. this possibility exists, others have been able to pull this one off. same for being friendless. same for being unsexy. same for being poor, same for being an asshole, same for being unhappy.
there is usually something that can be done to make everything better. it depends on the situation but usually when looked at with a clear head there is very clearly something that can be done with little effort that yields considerable results.
humans maybe not always but usually have the ability to make things better, at least a little and often a lot with minimal effort.
>the central idea is that the potential for regeneration, repaid, healing, improving exists for the majority of situations.
THE CENTRAL IDEA IS THAT THE POTENTIAL EXISTS TO MAKE SITUATIONS BETTER.
if you are fat you can get thin. this possibility exists, others have been able to pull this one off. same for being friendless. same for being unsexy. same for being poor, same for being an asshole, same for being unhappy.
there is usually something that can be done to make everything better. it depends on the situation but usually when looked at with a clear head there is very clearly something that can be done with little effort that yields considerable results.
humans maybe not always but usually have the ability to make things better, at least a little and often a lot with minimal effort.
>>206497
>shizoid
you just repeat words you have heard, hoping to learn what they mean along the way.
who cares if you understand something or not, your brain is not sitting in the driver's chair of your life anyway and your only hope is for someone else to utilize your potential so quit pretending you are anything more then a desperate mess trying to act normal.
>shizoid
you just repeat words you have heard, hoping to learn what they mean along the way.
who cares if you understand something or not, your brain is not sitting in the driver's chair of your life anyway and your only hope is for someone else to utilize your potential so quit pretending you are anything more then a desperate mess trying to act normal.
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>>206500
nice bait. i fancy it would work if it was true.
nice bait. i fancy it would work if it was true.
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Sertraline pills killed my sex drive. Feels good, man.
>>205782
It kind of comes and goes. I mean, I can pretty much fap whenever, but I just don't do it until I get the urges. Every 2 or 3 weeks I get this need to fap uncontrollably for a bunch of days straight, then suddenly I forget about it and spend the next 2-3 weeks not doing it. I've considered getting my T levels checked, but I'm not sure being hooked on synthetic hormones for the rest of my life is the way to go.
It kind of comes and goes. I mean, I can pretty much fap whenever, but I just don't do it until I get the urges. Every 2 or 3 weeks I get this need to fap uncontrollably for a bunch of days straight, then suddenly I forget about it and spend the next 2-3 weeks not doing it. I've considered getting my T levels checked, but I'm not sure being hooked on synthetic hormones for the rest of my life is the way to go.
Op here off porn for 11 days only jerking off every 3 days bought a book on Coping strategies for porn addiction the book is called breaking the chains
Why would you want to have no sex drive? Mine got super low with age and it coincided with a general loss of ability to feel pleasure. Unless you jerk off like 3+ times a day and have to edge for several hours each time it's an urge that you can quickly deal with.
>>205783
Honestly this thread could be closed with this post. Just enjoy that you have any drive at all.
>>205783
Honestly this thread could be closed with this post. Just enjoy that you have any drive at all.
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When a succubus is on their period but they don't know they never got worse than your childhood.
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