do you think it's worse to be fat or skinny? I think being fat is worse. Being fat is being addicted to food like a heroin addict and you get instant cravings and withdrawals when you stop eating for a few hours so losing weight becomes literal torture. People who naturally lean to the skinny side don't have to worry about overeating. And it's not because of their will or they're standards or whatever. Their entire body supports them not eating. Eating is a chore to them like raking the lawn. They do things like put off eating or say they'll do it later. something unthinkable to a fatty. The ordeal of forcing yourself to eat more which lasts minutes is not comparable to long lasting and sustained craving for food.
The only time i seriously lost weight in my life was when i was in debilitating pain and my appetite was lost. I would only eat like a granola bar a day. I love soda but for the duration of my chronic pain the soda in my fridge was untouched. How much weight do you think i lost? I lost 30 pounds in a month. This further backs the idea that the only reason you are not losing weight is because you are not eating like a chinese gulag worker.
I've risen back up to the 190s in pounds and I'm going to start my 3 month intense weight loss practice but i won't start until i can afford vyvanse. It's not the workouts i have planned that i'm afraid of. Its the constant hunger of eating less than 1200 calories a day that gets me, i know myself well enough that i will quit after a day or 2 just out of hunger alone vyvanse suppresses hunger.
i'm not a nutritionist or whatever. I'll just be eating like a poor asian person while doing 30 min jobs, pushups and lifting weights so i can retain some muscle. where are my out of shape wizards at?
The only time i seriously lost weight in my life was when i was in debilitating pain and my appetite was lost. I would only eat like a granola bar a day. I love soda but for the duration of my chronic pain the soda in my fridge was untouched. How much weight do you think i lost? I lost 30 pounds in a month. This further backs the idea that the only reason you are not losing weight is because you are not eating like a chinese gulag worker.
I've risen back up to the 190s in pounds and I'm going to start my 3 month intense weight loss practice but i won't start until i can afford vyvanse. It's not the workouts i have planned that i'm afraid of. Its the constant hunger of eating less than 1200 calories a day that gets me, i know myself well enough that i will quit after a day or 2 just out of hunger alone vyvanse suppresses hunger.
i'm not a nutritionist or whatever. I'll just be eating like a poor asian person while doing 30 min jobs, pushups and lifting weights so i can retain some muscle. where are my out of shape wizards at?
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Fat is worse.
>losing weight becomes literal torture.
Torture leaves the recipient worse for wear. Dieting while obese has immediate health benefits, so you're wrong to call it torture. It may be equally uncomfortable at first, but being trapped in a heavy, sluggish, smelly, greasy, hot suit of fat and oil is the real torture here.
>I lost 30 pounds in a month.
It really is that easy. Just eat less, and eat better.
>i won't start until i can afford vyvanse
Fucking coward. You've gotten good results without mind-numbing drugs before, why make yourself dependent on them now? Just start dieting. If you get hungry, drink tea and grab something filling but not so rich in calories. Instead of buying drugs made by people who want you to remain unhealthy, by yourself some efficient means of preparing vitamin-rich, low carb meals. Take that vyvanse menstrual regulating sounding drug money and buy a juicer instead, or some more dumbbells.
>i know myself well enough that i will quit after a day or 2
No. if you don't want to quit, and you can rationalize why quitting is bad, then "you" aren't going to quit. The fat little gay demon inside you will try to force you to quit. That red fuck isn't you though. Kick his ass out. Quitting isn't normal. Quitting isn't an option.
>losing weight becomes literal torture.
Torture leaves the recipient worse for wear. Dieting while obese has immediate health benefits, so you're wrong to call it torture. It may be equally uncomfortable at first, but being trapped in a heavy, sluggish, smelly, greasy, hot suit of fat and oil is the real torture here.
>I lost 30 pounds in a month.
It really is that easy. Just eat less, and eat better.
>i won't start until i can afford vyvanse
Fucking coward. You've gotten good results without mind-numbing drugs before, why make yourself dependent on them now? Just start dieting. If you get hungry, drink tea and grab something filling but not so rich in calories. Instead of buying drugs made by people who want you to remain unhealthy, by yourself some efficient means of preparing vitamin-rich, low carb meals. Take that vyvanse menstrual regulating sounding drug money and buy a juicer instead, or some more dumbbells.
>i know myself well enough that i will quit after a day or 2
No. if you don't want to quit, and you can rationalize why quitting is bad, then "you" aren't going to quit. The fat little gay demon inside you will try to force you to quit. That red fuck isn't you though. Kick his ass out. Quitting isn't normal. Quitting isn't an option.
>>210715
> You've gotten good results without mind-numbing drugs before, why make yourself dependent on them now?
didn't you read? the only reason i didn't eat was because i was in too much pain to think about food.
>drink tea and grab something filling but not so rich in calories
screw that. I'm going balls to the walls hard with starvation and exercise. I don't want to spend a year losing 40 pounds. you can call me a coward but that's how i'd rather do it. stimulant's have always given me the push i need. when i had adderall i didn't even need to keep taking it after a week because i had stabilized my life so much.
> You've gotten good results without mind-numbing drugs before, why make yourself dependent on them now?
didn't you read? the only reason i didn't eat was because i was in too much pain to think about food.
>drink tea and grab something filling but not so rich in calories
screw that. I'm going balls to the walls hard with starvation and exercise. I don't want to spend a year losing 40 pounds. you can call me a coward but that's how i'd rather do it. stimulant's have always given me the push i need. when i had adderall i didn't even need to keep taking it after a week because i had stabilized my life so much.
>>210716
If you knew which foods trigger your insuline levels and which not, you could actually miss that calorie counting hassle
If you knew which foods trigger your insuline levels and which not, you could actually miss that calorie counting hassle
I was with you until this line
>This further backs the idea that the only reason you are not losing weight is because you are not eating like a chinese gulag worker.
This is delusional cope. You think that drinking soda is somehow bourgeois or something? That eating healthy means you are a chinese gulag worker? Rich people are generally the only ones who actually eat healthy. You are just addicted to sugar which is destroying your health. People who aren't addicted aren't suffering or missing out in any way.
>This further backs the idea that the only reason you are not losing weight is because you are not eating like a chinese gulag worker.
This is delusional cope. You think that drinking soda is somehow bourgeois or something? That eating healthy means you are a chinese gulag worker? Rich people are generally the only ones who actually eat healthy. You are just addicted to sugar which is destroying your health. People who aren't addicted aren't suffering or missing out in any way.
Also, if you want to rely on drugs to lose weight for you, you should try ozempic instead of speed. It can actually fix your cravings for food and make you normal.
>>210739
>This is delusional cope. You think that drinking soda is somehow bourgeois or something? That eating healthy means you are a chinese gulag worker?
no. i mean if you want to lose weight fast you need to eat like a chinese gulag worker. fatasses are pathetic when it comes to losing weight. they are only fat in the first place because they are pathetic, if you are going to stick to a healthy diet and lose weight as recommended you'll be sticking to it for way longer to get results.
>This is delusional cope. You think that drinking soda is somehow bourgeois or something? That eating healthy means you are a chinese gulag worker?
no. i mean if you want to lose weight fast you need to eat like a chinese gulag worker. fatasses are pathetic when it comes to losing weight. they are only fat in the first place because they are pathetic, if you are going to stick to a healthy diet and lose weight as recommended you'll be sticking to it for way longer to get results.
>>210742
You shouldn't think of a diet as something temporary that you can go on and come off of, you need to heal your broken eating habits. Cut out the junk, eat healthy as a normal way of being for the rest of your life. This makes you naturally skinny without effort.
You shouldn't think of a diet as something temporary that you can go on and come off of, you need to heal your broken eating habits. Cut out the junk, eat healthy as a normal way of being for the rest of your life. This makes you naturally skinny without effort.
i was 300lbs, now im 160lbs. i get weighed twice a week because i sell plasma to neet.
i dont feel a single bit better. i feel mentally/physically either the same or worse than i did when i was 300lbs.
if you have severe mental problems (the literal definition of crippling anxiety where your neck/shoulders hurt from being tense, fatigue, muscle soreness and general malaise from depression, panic attacks that KO you for a week and make your entire body hurt and exhausted inside and out etc etc), then i think all of these mental health pains will override the pain from being a fatass, and will persist even when you are not a fatass. to recap, if youre fucked in the head, the pain is coming from there and not from your fatness. my mental troubles are such a burden that i guess i didnt even notice any problems with being fat, i have no complaints about being 300lbs and wouldnt care if i went back.
i dont feel a single bit better. i feel mentally/physically either the same or worse than i did when i was 300lbs.
if you have severe mental problems (the literal definition of crippling anxiety where your neck/shoulders hurt from being tense, fatigue, muscle soreness and general malaise from depression, panic attacks that KO you for a week and make your entire body hurt and exhausted inside and out etc etc), then i think all of these mental health pains will override the pain from being a fatass, and will persist even when you are not a fatass. to recap, if youre fucked in the head, the pain is coming from there and not from your fatness. my mental troubles are such a burden that i guess i didnt even notice any problems with being fat, i have no complaints about being 300lbs and wouldnt care if i went back.
>>210747
Whatever. Others might make a more significant chance by getting fit, this post is just a demotivational push against that
Whatever. Others might make a more significant chance by getting fit, this post is just a demotivational push against that
>>210713
I'm actually nearing the end of my diet to lose 25kg, I just ate 1200 calories a day, it's tough but you can get through it with sheer willpower. I've found that one-meal-a-day works best for me in curbing hunger, but it may be different for you. Being fat is definitely worse, and while I do enjoy good food and junk food, I like fitting into my clothes and seeing my penis better. Soon, when I go back to my maintenance calories, the challenge will be to keep the weight off while still enjoying the occasional junk food.
I'm actually nearing the end of my diet to lose 25kg, I just ate 1200 calories a day, it's tough but you can get through it with sheer willpower. I've found that one-meal-a-day works best for me in curbing hunger, but it may be different for you. Being fat is definitely worse, and while I do enjoy good food and junk food, I like fitting into my clothes and seeing my penis better. Soon, when I go back to my maintenance calories, the challenge will be to keep the weight off while still enjoying the occasional junk food.
>>210750
OP here.
I figured fuck it, i'll start trying to lose weight anyway. i'm eating the same amount as you plus exercise. i've always wanted to be slim and fit and every day of being fat sucks.
OP here.
I figured fuck it, i'll start trying to lose weight anyway. i'm eating the same amount as you plus exercise. i've always wanted to be slim and fit and every day of being fat sucks.
>>210748
he said "fat VS. skinny", not "improvebrah general".
well i got skinny and dont feel any better and wish i didnt bother
he said "fat VS. skinny", not "improvebrah general".
well i got skinny and dont feel any better and wish i didnt bother
>>210744
theres actually not much wrong with my diet other than my soda addiction. I don't have money to eat out constantly so my diet just consists of things like eggs, bread, red meat, i do get unhealthy things like bacon and mayo but other than that i just need to eat less and maybe substitute the soda for something healthier.
theres actually not much wrong with my diet other than my soda addiction. I don't have money to eat out constantly so my diet just consists of things like eggs, bread, red meat, i do get unhealthy things like bacon and mayo but other than that i just need to eat less and maybe substitute the soda for something healthier.
>>210748
no. former fat anon is right. People worship being fit like it some ultimate life changer when in reality its nothing. I don't think it's gonna solve my issues I just don't want to look like a fat fucking 12 year old anymore. i want to be slim and fit.
no. former fat anon is right. People worship being fit like it some ultimate life changer when in reality its nothing. I don't think it's gonna solve my issues I just don't want to look like a fat fucking 12 year old anymore. i want to be slim and fit.
>>210753
Yeah, we already know you are the same cunt whining everytime self improvement is slightly mentioned. Still not giving a single diarrhea bit about it.
Yeah, we already know you are the same cunt whining everytime self improvement is slightly mentioned. Still not giving a single diarrhea bit about it.
>>210755
Rather than counting calories, you should test which are your insulin triggers. Those are the ones causing fatness, as "The power of Metabolism" indicates.
Rather than counting calories, you should test which are your insulin triggers. Those are the ones causing fatness, as "The power of Metabolism" indicates.
>>210713
unless you are like 5' 4 or less, 190s isnt something you should be losing your life for man, you dont need to starve yourself gulag style if you dont want to, you just need to eat the right food, but less food by total volume. eating more proteins and fats as a percentage of your diet will satisfy you instead of simple sugars and high carbs. if eating 1 granola bar a day lost you only 30lbs then i get the feeling you're lying or misremembering what you ate and how long you ate that way for, ive lost 40lbs in a little over a month on around 2000 calories but i am very physically active. you can do it too, i weighed just a little less than you
the reason losing weight is "torture" for fatties is because you are addicted to excessive amounts of sugar, salt, and other addatives that are in modern slop food
you can get into fasting for the quickest and cleanest results, its kind of like internet deprivation for people addicted to social media or whatever look up Snake Diet. you dont need a fucking drug to lose weight, if you dont want to do fasting, you can lose weight on as little as a 200 calorie deficit every day. or if you are really into calorie restriction eat 12 eggs (~720 calories) and some fruit like watermelon and cucumber or berries to round up to 1000 calories, also for electrolytes and you can split that into 2 meals in a day then occupy yourself. go for a walk or something. the more you do nothing the more tempted you will be to fuck yourself up.
for workouts, team 3d alpha on youtube has very simple, repetitive, and effective workout strategies and general fitness knowledge you should learn about if interested
unless you are like 5' 4 or less, 190s isnt something you should be losing your life for man, you dont need to starve yourself gulag style if you dont want to, you just need to eat the right food, but less food by total volume. eating more proteins and fats as a percentage of your diet will satisfy you instead of simple sugars and high carbs. if eating 1 granola bar a day lost you only 30lbs then i get the feeling you're lying or misremembering what you ate and how long you ate that way for, ive lost 40lbs in a little over a month on around 2000 calories but i am very physically active. you can do it too, i weighed just a little less than you
the reason losing weight is "torture" for fatties is because you are addicted to excessive amounts of sugar, salt, and other addatives that are in modern slop food
you can get into fasting for the quickest and cleanest results, its kind of like internet deprivation for people addicted to social media or whatever look up Snake Diet. you dont need a fucking drug to lose weight, if you dont want to do fasting, you can lose weight on as little as a 200 calorie deficit every day. or if you are really into calorie restriction eat 12 eggs (~720 calories) and some fruit like watermelon and cucumber or berries to round up to 1000 calories, also for electrolytes and you can split that into 2 meals in a day then occupy yourself. go for a walk or something. the more you do nothing the more tempted you will be to fuck yourself up.
for workouts, team 3d alpha on youtube has very simple, repetitive, and effective workout strategies and general fitness knowledge you should learn about if interested
>>210766
Observe yourself after eating different types of foods and how it makes you feel. If you notice an inflammatory reaction, fatigue, bloating, sudden weight gain etc. you should probably avoid it.
Different people are sensitive to different foods and the quantity of said foods, so you have no real way of knowing other than experimentation.
Observe yourself after eating different types of foods and how it makes you feel. If you notice an inflammatory reaction, fatigue, bloating, sudden weight gain etc. you should probably avoid it.
Different people are sensitive to different foods and the quantity of said foods, so you have no real way of knowing other than experimentation.
if i could get pussy for losing weight id do it but im also ugly so there's no point in losing weight for me
im more confident in being fat and ugly rather than pretending i can lose weight, be a normie or get pussy
im more confident in being fat and ugly rather than pretending i can lose weight, be a normie or get pussy
>>210781
>12 eggs
Not that wiz. Just my 5 cents, but my stomach really wouldn't appreciate me eating more than 4-5 eggs a day.
>12 eggs
Not that wiz. Just my 5 cents, but my stomach really wouldn't appreciate me eating more than 4-5 eggs a day.
>>210713
OP Here. scale told me i was 200 pounds today. I haven't officially started my weight loss and muscle building regimen but i went on a 2 mile walk to the store, i figured i'd walk instead of drive.
my calves were full of lactic acid just walking 1/8th of the mile. I was surprised. I do have nerve damage from years of severe congenital stenosis but i didn't think i'd be this bad. I pushed through but had to sit in the bathroom in the store because i was so hot (it's 105 degrees and it was an uphill walk). the walk back wasn't as bad but i was nearly staggering by the time i got to my home. I am saddened by how out of shape i am.
OP Here. scale told me i was 200 pounds today. I haven't officially started my weight loss and muscle building regimen but i went on a 2 mile walk to the store, i figured i'd walk instead of drive.
my calves were full of lactic acid just walking 1/8th of the mile. I was surprised. I do have nerve damage from years of severe congenital stenosis but i didn't think i'd be this bad. I pushed through but had to sit in the bathroom in the store because i was so hot (it's 105 degrees and it was an uphill walk). the walk back wasn't as bad but i was nearly staggering by the time i got to my home. I am saddened by how out of shape i am.
>>210795
>I am saddened by how out of shape i am.
The happiness of how in shape you're going to be outweighs the sadness of how out of shape you are. Keep it up Wiz.
>I am saddened by how out of shape i am.
The happiness of how in shape you're going to be outweighs the sadness of how out of shape you are. Keep it up Wiz.
>>210713
I am 51kg (fuck you 'murrica) currently. I prefer to be a skeleton. Being obese displays a lack of discipline and looks fucking horrible. Hermits should be skinny.
I am 51kg (fuck you 'murrica) currently. I prefer to be a skeleton. Being obese displays a lack of discipline and looks fucking horrible. Hermits should be skinny.
>>210812
skinny guys are popular now with zoomer succubi just look at machinegun kelly or travis barker
skinny guys are popular now with zoomer succubi just look at machinegun kelly or travis barker
>>210813
>Disregard succubi
>"Here's what teenage succubi want in a man! Just look at Celebrity A or Celebrity B!"
Unironically lock yourself out of your house.
>Disregard succubi
>"Here's what teenage succubi want in a man! Just look at Celebrity A or Celebrity B!"
Unironically lock yourself out of your house.
>>210813
no one here knows who either of those NPCs are and you should feel bad for having named them, why does it matter what succubi think
no one here knows who either of those NPCs are and you should feel bad for having named them, why does it matter what succubi think
>>210876
idk who travis barker was, but i do know his 1993 band Blink 182, although i wouldnt exactly call him these days.
i think he was in an EP of Punk'd where the waiter pretended to be his fiance's ex-bf and kept talking about how great the sex was, and wanting to get back with her.
https://www.tmz.com/watch/2022-05-19-051922-travis-punkd-1427669/
idk who travis barker was, but i do know his 1993 band Blink 182, although i wouldnt exactly call him these days.
i think he was in an EP of Punk'd where the waiter pretended to be his fiance's ex-bf and kept talking about how great the sex was, and wanting to get back with her.
https://www.tmz.com/watch/2022-05-19-051922-travis-punkd-1427669/
>>210713
I seriously don't get this outlook all fatties have regarding food, you are fat as fuck and your plan is to essentially starve yourself? How long do you reckon you'll be able to keep that up? You were only able to keep that up last time due to the debilitating pain you were in, when the pain went away, you went right back to being a fatty.
You and all other fatties have a fundamentally fucked up view regarding nutrition, it's always extremes with you guys, either you eat all you want or you starve to lose weight. Data shows that most fatties who lose weight eventually gain it back, wonder why that might be.
You are aware you could eat 1800cal a day and lose weight right? You'll probably not starve, you'll keep a larger percentage of muscle and you'll be able to keep it going for much longer. Hell perhaps you entire outlook on nutrition might change in the process and you might make healthy eating a life long endeavor instead of yo-yo dieting like a moron.
I seriously don't get this outlook all fatties have regarding food, you are fat as fuck and your plan is to essentially starve yourself? How long do you reckon you'll be able to keep that up? You were only able to keep that up last time due to the debilitating pain you were in, when the pain went away, you went right back to being a fatty.
You and all other fatties have a fundamentally fucked up view regarding nutrition, it's always extremes with you guys, either you eat all you want or you starve to lose weight. Data shows that most fatties who lose weight eventually gain it back, wonder why that might be.
You are aware you could eat 1800cal a day and lose weight right? You'll probably not starve, you'll keep a larger percentage of muscle and you'll be able to keep it going for much longer. Hell perhaps you entire outlook on nutrition might change in the process and you might make healthy eating a life long endeavor instead of yo-yo dieting like a moron.
>>210876
>>210885
>>210880
>>210814
Machine Gun Kelly's gf is Megan Fox. She could pick any rich muscular guy in Hollywood but she chose a skinny tatted up zoomer to have sex with. Travis Barker has also dated Taylor Swift and many top actresses.
This just shows that tall skinny look is IN has always been IN. Literally the biggest top tier Stacie's of the world all WANT a tall skinny guy because their dicks looks huge.
So in other words, being skinny is unwizardly.
>>210885
>>210880
>>210814
Machine Gun Kelly's gf is Megan Fox. She could pick any rich muscular guy in Hollywood but she chose a skinny tatted up zoomer to have sex with. Travis Barker has also dated Taylor Swift and many top actresses.
This just shows that tall skinny look is IN has always been IN. Literally the biggest top tier Stacie's of the world all WANT a tall skinny guy because their dicks looks huge.
So in other words, being skinny is unwizardly.
>>210885
>CICO
>healthy eating
Retard, opinion discarded.
Calories don't matter and there's no "healthy" food.
There is food and there is not-food.
Food: Meat, lard, vegetables, potatoes, buckwheat, rice, milk, butter, eggs.
Not-food: Wheat, oats, peanuts.
Eat food, don't consume not-food, it's impossible to get fat.
>CICO
>healthy eating
Retard, opinion discarded.
Calories don't matter and there's no "healthy" food.
There is food and there is not-food.
Food: Meat, lard, vegetables, potatoes, buckwheat, rice, milk, butter, eggs.
Not-food: Wheat, oats, peanuts.
Eat food, don't consume not-food, it's impossible to get fat.
>>210887
>Not-food: Wheat, oats, peanuts.
Odd how wheat has been a worldwide staple across the world for thousands of years, but sure, why not take the word of some schizo of wizchan who claims it's not food.
>Not-food: Wheat, oats, peanuts.
Odd how wheat has been a worldwide staple across the world for thousands of years, but sure, why not take the word of some schizo of wizchan who claims it's not food.
>>210886
back in 2015 when pepe and wojack were considered "wiz" but Forever Alone Guy was considered normy, I defended him as a fat guy, and a true wiz should be fat not gaunt like wojak
back in 2015 when pepe and wojack were considered "wiz" but Forever Alone Guy was considered normy, I defended him as a fat guy, and a true wiz should be fat not gaunt like wojak
>>210885
my plan is more to just dive as low as possible then stabilize my diet from there. After i lost 30 pounds it actually took a fair amount of time to put that weight back on. about 7 months so i know that my body doesn't totally hate me. If i had actually taken advantage of that, if i had actually wanted to get healthier i probably could have kept it.
>you are fat as fuck and your plan is to essentially starve yourself? How long do you reckon you'll be able to keep that up?
I don't think i could keep it up for more than a few days. thats what the drugs are for, they whittled me down when i was a fat 12 year old with 0 impulse control. they will help now.
my plan is more to just dive as low as possible then stabilize my diet from there. After i lost 30 pounds it actually took a fair amount of time to put that weight back on. about 7 months so i know that my body doesn't totally hate me. If i had actually taken advantage of that, if i had actually wanted to get healthier i probably could have kept it.
>you are fat as fuck and your plan is to essentially starve yourself? How long do you reckon you'll be able to keep that up?
I don't think i could keep it up for more than a few days. thats what the drugs are for, they whittled me down when i was a fat 12 year old with 0 impulse control. they will help now.
>>210882
all the college kids love them, sublime, and modest mouse. shit, shat, and shite tbh. all trash
all the college kids love them, sublime, and modest mouse. shit, shat, and shite tbh. all trash
>>210885
people who are naturally thin only eat once a day and couldn't eat more to save their lives. i even catch some complaining that they can't gain weight.
people who are naturally thin only eat once a day and couldn't eat more to save their lives. i even catch some complaining that they can't gain weight.
>>210739
>People who aren't addicted aren't suffering or missing out in any way.
Yeah actually they are, they don't get to drink yummy pop. 🤣
>People who aren't addicted aren't suffering or missing out in any way.
Yeah actually they are, they don't get to drink yummy pop. 🤣
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>>210795
wizbros… 3 mile walk today. Calves don't hurt anymore and i'm not on the verge of death. I'm gonna make it wizbros.
wizbros… 3 mile walk today. Calves don't hurt anymore and i'm not on the verge of death. I'm gonna make it wizbros.
The "fatcel is volcel" argument states that you can’t call yourself involuntary celibate if you haven’t made an effort to exercise and thereby make yourself more appealing, or lost enough pounds to be at a healthy weight. Fatcels are in fact hated by truecels.
The main reason that fatcels are hated by truecels is because fatcels are often Chadlite or High-tier normie in disguise. Their disguise is the layer of fat, which if lost, removes the masquerade that they are in any way, shape or form associated with crabibacy.
Thus, fatcels undermine the plight of actual truecels who can‘t get laid no matter how much looksmaxxing they do. A real truecel can get muscular, shredded, fashionable, tanned and get a haircut but he would still face nonredamancy due to being a combination of mentalcel, uglycel, etc.
The main reason that fatcels are hated by truecels is because fatcels are often Chadlite or High-tier normie in disguise. Their disguise is the layer of fat, which if lost, removes the masquerade that they are in any way, shape or form associated with crabibacy.
Thus, fatcels undermine the plight of actual truecels who can‘t get laid no matter how much looksmaxxing they do. A real truecel can get muscular, shredded, fashionable, tanned and get a haircut but he would still face nonredamancy due to being a combination of mentalcel, uglycel, etc.
>>210919
ok well our logic is the opposite of crabs. there up is our down.
so if being fat makes you volcel, chug away
ok well our logic is the opposite of crabs. there up is our down.
so if being fat makes you volcel, chug away
>>210919
>fatcel truecel fakecel crabibacy bracrabs
No no no, that CrabsDotCo "tiermaking" isn't part of Wizchan.
A man who has never had sex and claims to be OK with it is a volcel
A man who hasn't had sex and would prefer a different outcome is a crab
None of this in-between shit.
>fatcel truecel fakecel crabibacy bracrabs
No no no, that CrabsDotCo "tiermaking" isn't part of Wizchan.
A man who has never had sex and claims to be OK with it is a volcel
A man who hasn't had sex and would prefer a different outcome is a crab
None of this in-between shit.
>>210921
hey this could be good for us, the crab definition of volcel is so wide, we will all qualify
hey this could be good for us, the crab definition of volcel is so wide, we will all qualify
>>210888
Post of a video of you eating a kilo of flour and not shitting yourself 2 hours afterwards.
It's a simple rule of thumb to determine what is actually edible and digestible by humans and what is a supplement/ narcotic at best.
Plus you are wrong. Wheat is and was not a "staple food". Bread is basically cake and that's what it has always been in human history. Another use for grain is cheap booze production.
Wheat was never a human food source. It's an intoxicant.
Post of a video of you eating a kilo of flour and not shitting yourself 2 hours afterwards.
It's a simple rule of thumb to determine what is actually edible and digestible by humans and what is a supplement/ narcotic at best.
Plus you are wrong. Wheat is and was not a "staple food". Bread is basically cake and that's what it has always been in human history. Another use for grain is cheap booze production.
Wheat was never a human food source. It's an intoxicant.
>>210928
we arent creating these definitions, crabs are. no one on wizchan ever said being fat makes you volcel. but if the crabs say it, i'll take it.
well its like we are in bizarro worlds. like on wizchan we say "you are not a true volcel unless…." while on crabs they say "you are not a true imcel unless…." so we call folks "secret imcels" they call them "secret volcels"
we arent creating these definitions, crabs are. no one on wizchan ever said being fat makes you volcel. but if the crabs say it, i'll take it.
well its like we are in bizarro worlds. like on wizchan we say "you are not a true volcel unless…." while on crabs they say "you are not a true imcel unless…." so we call folks "secret imcels" they call them "secret volcels"
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i have been fat my whole life, there were two times in my life i put in an effort to lose weight and each time i ended up gaining it all back lol
I would prefer to be skinny, fat people get no respect, but im a neet hikki too so none of it really matters
I would prefer to be skinny, fat people get no respect, but im a neet hikki too so none of it really matters
>>210888
It is strange how many people take these bizarre stances on stuff these days. I don't understand where it's coming from. Why is it now en vogue to just claim all sorts of stuff that is nonsense on its face, then when they get called out on it, they double down? What is the point of it? The best I can guess it's a source of narcissistic supply for people to believe that they have found special knowledge that elevates them above the masses who have the wool pulled over their eyes. I see people who engage in these sorts of nonsense "beliefs" often ridiculing everyone else for being taken in by the plot which they have seen through in their infinite wisdom. It denotes a complete lack of trust in society and other people to the point where they believe everyone is out to get them and everything is a lie. It is just sad to see people who have become so mentally crippled.
It is strange how many people take these bizarre stances on stuff these days. I don't understand where it's coming from. Why is it now en vogue to just claim all sorts of stuff that is nonsense on its face, then when they get called out on it, they double down? What is the point of it? The best I can guess it's a source of narcissistic supply for people to believe that they have found special knowledge that elevates them above the masses who have the wool pulled over their eyes. I see people who engage in these sorts of nonsense "beliefs" often ridiculing everyone else for being taken in by the plot which they have seen through in their infinite wisdom. It denotes a complete lack of trust in society and other people to the point where they believe everyone is out to get them and everything is a lie. It is just sad to see people who have become so mentally crippled.
>>210932
Let me guess, you take multiple psychiatric medications and dozens of vitamins? Say no more.
Let me guess, you take multiple psychiatric medications and dozens of vitamins? Say no more.
>>210713
I've been fat between the ages 16 and 24.
I lost a lot of weight 6 years ago because of a fluke, I somehow developed parosmia which made most addictive foods smell and taste like shit to me.
I began to prefer very plain consumables like water, legumes, vegetables but generally ate less than before.
While the parosmia left after a few months it managed to kick out my reliance on crappy foods.
I've been fat between the ages 16 and 24.
I lost a lot of weight 6 years ago because of a fluke, I somehow developed parosmia which made most addictive foods smell and taste like shit to me.
I began to prefer very plain consumables like water, legumes, vegetables but generally ate less than before.
While the parosmia left after a few months it managed to kick out my reliance on crappy foods.
>>210929
Your assertion that wheat, oats and peanuts are not food is a mighty claim to make, they're all filled with nutritional value and calories, by definition making them food, you are wrong.
>Post of a video of you eating a kilo of flour and not shitting yourself 2 hours afterwards.
>It's a simple rule of thumb to determine what is actually edible and digestible by humans
Are you aware that humans can die if they consume too much water in a short time? Does your simple rule of thumb apply here as well or is your next wild claim that water is bad as well?
>Bread is basically cake and that's what it has always been in human history.
Wrong again, bread has been eaten for thousands of years across cultures, often used for breakfast or dinner, it's not considered a desert.
Your assertion that wheat, oats and peanuts are not food is a mighty claim to make, they're all filled with nutritional value and calories, by definition making them food, you are wrong.
>Post of a video of you eating a kilo of flour and not shitting yourself 2 hours afterwards.
>It's a simple rule of thumb to determine what is actually edible and digestible by humans
Are you aware that humans can die if they consume too much water in a short time? Does your simple rule of thumb apply here as well or is your next wild claim that water is bad as well?
>Bread is basically cake and that's what it has always been in human history.
Wrong again, bread has been eaten for thousands of years across cultures, often used for breakfast or dinner, it's not considered a desert.
>>210932
>>210947
food and health related topics more broadly bring out the crazies like no other
the most unhinged schizo posters believe and share the wildest claims and theories straight out of some snake oil salesmen's websites
they're ultra paranoid but their favourite wellness gurus can't possibly be full of shit lol. pure conspiracy brainrot
>>210947
food and health related topics more broadly bring out the crazies like no other
the most unhinged schizo posters believe and share the wildest claims and theories straight out of some snake oil salesmen's websites
they're ultra paranoid but their favourite wellness gurus can't possibly be full of shit lol. pure conspiracy brainrot
>>210983
bmi: 18.5
i used to be fat alright, and have lost weight doing none of the insane shit that you schizos advocate for
bmi: 18.5
i used to be fat alright, and have lost weight doing none of the insane shit that you schizos advocate for
>>210740
OP here. I'm not doing the drugs. i've adjusted my diet to about 1100 calories a day with satisfying meals. today i get my gym membership.
OP here. I'm not doing the drugs. i've adjusted my diet to about 1100 calories a day with satisfying meals. today i get my gym membership.
>>210713
I feel like the answer is happy medium; not too skinny not obese.
Idk why people think 'the skinnier the better'. Ofc being fat or obese isn't good but I feel like people today think that looking like aushwitz wictim is somehow good; like there is no lower limit to being skinny. Which is retarded.
And I speak this as someone who was basically a skeleton 'till my mid 20s and I felt like absolute dogshit; weak; no energy etc. since I gained like 20lbs I feel much much better.
I feel like the answer is happy medium; not too skinny not obese.
Idk why people think 'the skinnier the better'. Ofc being fat or obese isn't good but I feel like people today think that looking like aushwitz wictim is somehow good; like there is no lower limit to being skinny. Which is retarded.
And I speak this as someone who was basically a skeleton 'till my mid 20s and I felt like absolute dogshit; weak; no energy etc. since I gained like 20lbs I feel much much better.
>>211010
at the gym today (just starting) i could barely run 10 mins on the treadmill and couldn't even finish my 3 sets of 10 pushups and planks. arm workouts went ok but i felt humiliated by how out of shape i am. I'm literally you but with a disgusting smelly, greasy suit of fat covering my body
at the gym today (just starting) i could barely run 10 mins on the treadmill and couldn't even finish my 3 sets of 10 pushups and planks. arm workouts went ok but i felt humiliated by how out of shape i am. I'm literally you but with a disgusting smelly, greasy suit of fat covering my body
I'm genetically lucky and don't gain weight very fast but my job is also physically demanding so it's kind of like working out 8 hours per day. I was kind of a fat kid but I didn't care and just naturally stopped being fat somehow, and I have never been fat since then.
From this relatively neutral standpoint I would much rather be too skinny than too fat. Being too skinny is not a real problem unless your body is actually digesting your muscles and organs to a life threatening degree. I see plenty of skeletal guys with succubi but not lards. Unless the only thing in life that will make you happy is being a professional athlete I fail to see any downside whatsoever.
From this relatively neutral standpoint I would much rather be too skinny than too fat. Being too skinny is not a real problem unless your body is actually digesting your muscles and organs to a life threatening degree. I see plenty of skeletal guys with succubi but not lards. Unless the only thing in life that will make you happy is being a professional athlete I fail to see any downside whatsoever.
The biggest problem is that food is so expensive. Assuming you're skinny but don't have a dangerously fast metabolism, it's far better to be skinny. Nevertheless, no man should settle for any body they aren't happy with. Be strong and methodical, and shape the you that best fits your soul.
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Fatties are absolutely disgusting, worthless subhumans. Just the lowest of the low. All the excuses they make for their sickening forms, waddling out into public and getting in the way of actual humans. Revolting.
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>>210713
I am a 5'4 skinny fat pajeet (worst of both worlds) weighing in at 62kilos (140 pounds), and it absolutely sucks. I go to the gym everyday but I see literally no improvement. I think it has to do with stress, depression, and veganism that my parents have forced upon me. And yeah, I kinda slack in gym because I get mogged there relentlessly. If anyone of you have any suggestions regarding solving this problem please let me know. I have bit of moobs too.
I am a 5'4 skinny fat pajeet (worst of both worlds) weighing in at 62kilos (140 pounds), and it absolutely sucks. I go to the gym everyday but I see literally no improvement. I think it has to do with stress, depression, and veganism that my parents have forced upon me. And yeah, I kinda slack in gym because I get mogged there relentlessly. If anyone of you have any suggestions regarding solving this problem please let me know. I have bit of moobs too.
>>211035
You can do calisthenics at home if you get too picked on at the gym
Stress might make you eat compulsively or more than usual, almost all depression meds have some kind of weight gain as side effects because it interfers with food processing in the stomach
I know it sounds faggy but have you tried counting your average daily calory input? If it's consistently above 2000cal then cut back on the portion size
Also, it will take A LOT of time to see any changes to your body, like at least a few months with regular exercise
You can do calisthenics at home if you get too picked on at the gym
Stress might make you eat compulsively or more than usual, almost all depression meds have some kind of weight gain as side effects because it interfers with food processing in the stomach
I know it sounds faggy but have you tried counting your average daily calory input? If it's consistently above 2000cal then cut back on the portion size
Also, it will take A LOT of time to see any changes to your body, like at least a few months with regular exercise
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>>211083
A large percentage are obese, but, most people vast overestimate how big "obese" people are. Pic related, if you have any sort of gut you're probably in the obese category. Old dudes who some would call skinnyfat can have 25-30% bodyfat and be obese. This image is biased towards showing the low end of the first 3 categories.
A large percentage are obese, but, most people vast overestimate how big "obese" people are. Pic related, if you have any sort of gut you're probably in the obese category. Old dudes who some would call skinnyfat can have 25-30% bodyfat and be obese. This image is biased towards showing the low end of the first 3 categories.
>>211084
Forgot to add, quickly looking at stats around 35% of men in USA are obese. But class 3 obese, drops to about 5%. Data was from 2015 I think.
Forgot to add, quickly looking at stats around 35% of men in USA are obese. But class 3 obese, drops to about 5%. Data was from 2015 I think.
>>211101
The images are from sources where height/weight are known, not just me guessing what they look like. The classifications are correct.
The images are from sources where height/weight are known, not just me guessing what they look like. The classifications are correct.
>do you think it's worse to be fat or skinny?
the cause of either condition is probably more important than the condition itself
i was very skinny growing up because i just jerked off and played video games all day and we had no snacks and my stay at home mother only let me eat proper meals. the amount of calories i must have burned jerking off to 4chan in mid 00s simply was too great for the food i was eating
but now the reverse is happening. i'm eating much more food and jerking off less, much less, though still at such an excess to experience frequent pain and soreness in my balls from overjerking. i've peaked. i cannot resist leftover pizza sitting in the fridge, even when my stomach hurts and i have had acid reflux for the past 2 weeks. i drink the magic baking soda before bed to stop the pain but every day i just pig out more. i'm not yet fat or even technically obese, but since i was a skeleton growing up, my brain is fucked and so that is my only comparison to how i'm currently built. at this rate i will probably be fat in a few years though
i would much rather be a skeleton again, assuming i didn't have any mental illness or eating disorders
the cause of either condition is probably more important than the condition itself
i was very skinny growing up because i just jerked off and played video games all day and we had no snacks and my stay at home mother only let me eat proper meals. the amount of calories i must have burned jerking off to 4chan in mid 00s simply was too great for the food i was eating
but now the reverse is happening. i'm eating much more food and jerking off less, much less, though still at such an excess to experience frequent pain and soreness in my balls from overjerking. i've peaked. i cannot resist leftover pizza sitting in the fridge, even when my stomach hurts and i have had acid reflux for the past 2 weeks. i drink the magic baking soda before bed to stop the pain but every day i just pig out more. i'm not yet fat or even technically obese, but since i was a skeleton growing up, my brain is fucked and so that is my only comparison to how i'm currently built. at this rate i will probably be fat in a few years though
i would much rather be a skeleton again, assuming i didn't have any mental illness or eating disorders
>>211112
you mix a 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda into some water and drink it. it reacts with your stomach acid to make salt water, and co2 which you burp. it has a lot of sodium, this is probably the reason why it's not popular
you mix a 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda into some water and drink it. it reacts with your stomach acid to make salt water, and co2 which you burp. it has a lot of sodium, this is probably the reason why it's not popular
>>210888
bread has always been a staple food of the impoverished, people who couldnt get their hands on actual food like fruit and meat. bread specifically is horrible for your teeth and health in general. its why hunter gatherers have always been stronger and healthier than grain eating bugmen that would eventually come to outnumber them
bread has always been a staple food of the impoverished, people who couldnt get their hands on actual food like fruit and meat. bread specifically is horrible for your teeth and health in general. its why hunter gatherers have always been stronger and healthier than grain eating bugmen that would eventually come to outnumber them
I keep actively trying to put on weight but i cant. I cant understand fat people. How supposed depressed people have the energy to cook, acquire and afford to buy that much food. Preparing food takes enormous amount of effort and money. It's so easy to just not eat, but eating more takes active effort and resources. Makes no sense to me. I see other addictions similarly. I imagine other people having some chaotic, confused mind with no sense of self-control and it terrifies me