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This is the new reading thread, wizards. The previous thread can be found here: >>50386
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The Ax by Donald Westlake
The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann
Lord of the Barnyard by Tristan Egolf


actually disregard my second recommendation


Just finished the Anarchist's Cookbook. Not that I'm planning anything. I just like works that have a little controversy. It was a lot more grounded than I had expected, like the author would always harp on safety when working with dangerous chemicals or firearms, and advise not to attempt something if you don't have the expertise for it. Anyway, I've heard publishers removed some especially dangerous stuff from the later editions, which is weird because it still has a lot of information about making high explosives. Can't get much more dangerous than that, right? I'll probably look up the censored stuff later.

Anyway, it was pretty unique. I can see why it became popular. Some stuff is completely out of date, though. And other stuff is completely false. When I read that I could distill fully legal psychedelics out of banana peels, I was stoked, but it turns out that was a hoax. And if the author didn't fact check something simple like that, I wouldn't trust the explosive recipes, either.

Interesting read, but I hope it never comes in handy. Don't be a terrorist, gents. Don't give crabs a bad name like that.


They already have a bad name.


If I remember correctly most of the stuff removed was because it was based on bad info and ether didn't work or was super unstable making it super dangerous mainly to the person making it rather than anyone else.
No point in including a recipe that explodes in your face or spontaneously combust if you look at it funny while making it because it is actively decomposing into volatile compounds since the formula isn't balanced.


That book is Mallcore / pleather trenchcoat bait. Nobody with such poor understanding of chemistry or such a lousy ability to write technical guides has the right to call any book he shits out "the Anarchist's Cookbook". It always has been a running joke in SHTF and anti-government groups. Not only because of the misinformation contained, but because declassified US Army field manuals for improvised munitions and IEDs are significantly more available, truthful, and beginner friendly. There are also guides on guerilla warfare, subversion tactics, hiding from greater powers, etc, that you can order from surplus dealers for about $10/book. The final boss of the feds has provided better info for overturning the government than some angsty suburban tax evader could ever dream of offering.


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>fully legal psychedelics out of banana peels
Here's a tip.


You say tax evader like it's a bad thing.
Will agree that for actual practical use the Anarchist cookbook is shit, but culturally it's a interesting book that makes me nostalgic.



>One of the reasons that the change from using bronze (or copper) as tool metals to using iron was so important historically is that iron is just so damn abundant.
it's wrong, copper was still more abundant than iron and less difficult to mine and process, the only real reason people switched was the increasing scarcity of tin to make bronze with, tin deposits being located in only a couple regions far away from most places with unreliable trade routes


> total amount of discovered copper to 2.8 billion metric tons
>About 90 percent of all metal that is refined today is iron, according to the Royal Society of Chemistry.
>The reserves of crude iron ore in the United States alone were estimated to be approximately three billion metric tons in 2020

Iron FAR more abundant then copper. You are simply completely wrong.


you realize there's a big difference between the absolute numbers and the actual abundance back then, copper was everywhere, copper mines were everywhere, copper was the prime metal for thousands of years, meanwhile not many people knew where to find all this abundant iron, because up until they were forced to they barely paid attention to the stuff


you just linked to the biggest paywall garbage ive ever encountered in my life


You are welcome to provide evidence.
So far you have provided none while I have to back up my claims.
Until then everything you say is simply your empty opinions.


your "claims" are based on what people could only determine after 3000 years of the iron age, unless you really think bronze age people woke up one day suddenly knowing how much tonnage of every metal is in the whole planet and switched to iron based on that revelation

they didn't
big difference between absolute numbers and real, known abundance
the blogger is wrong about why iron took over


I see no supporting evidence so your claims are empty and without merit.
Good day.


you can just google what I wrote if the logic of it wasn't sensible enough, or you can take the word of a random blogger who didn't source any of his shit


>prove my point for me
No one is going to go out of their way to look up things you pulled from your ass.
You have nothing to support your argument but more claims made out of thin air.

There is no reason nor logical reason for anyone to take anything you have said so far as valid or factual as even at this point you refuse to provide evidence.

If you have no evidence then it is time for you to shut up.


you googled a blogger who doesn't provide evidence, you can darn well google real historians who will tell you with sources why the bronze age ended, and they're going to say what I said


>you googled a blogger who doesn't provide evidence
So not only do you not provide evidence for your claims but now you are just blatantly lying.
As everyone can see by looking at this post.


>I didn't use a search engine
you sure didn't find that hearsay blog through a web ring
>As everyone can see by looking at this post.
What they see is modern geological surveys and accounting that was simply unknown to people 3,000 years ago and not the reason why bronze was phased out for inferior, primitive ferrous metallurgy.


>still not posting supporting evidence of any claims
You ordinal point is wrong and you know it.
But as usual rather then just admit to being wrong you just double down over and over again hoping to "win" through argumentum ad nauseam, lies, and irritation since evidence, reason, and facts are seldom on your side.


everyone knows the bronze age collapsed because of disruptions that cut off the supply of tin, don't expect me to personally write you an essay on stuff you were supposed to learn in school, but oh sure, everyone in the old world suddenly decided that a metal they didn't even know how to make into steel yet, took extremely more work to smelt and forge, made weapons with easily bent blades and soft edges compared to work hardened bronze, and corroded way too easily…was preferable just because it's more abundant


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Anyone recommend me books in a similar vain to Disco Elysium? Specifically, I'm looking for a plot where the main character is an apologetic loser who doesn't really get better but gets the job done regardless. Extra points if its introspective and dark. Thanks in advance


>the main character is an apologetic loser who doesn't really get better but gets the job done regardless
too real wtf


I don't know, Gogol's Dead Souls maybe?

Lord of the Barnyard


I really enjoy stories like this because I relate to them so much, I don't want to feel better but I don't want to feel alone.
I haven't read a book in years but I think I've exhausted this type of plot in the other medias.


Thanks for the tip I'll check them out


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How do you guys manage to balance reading and internet usage? Personally, I can only do one or the other. I find it really difficult to concentrate on a book for more than a page or two when I use the internet regularly, I get distracted constantly and trail off in thought while my eyes still blankly scan the text with 0 comprehension. I can't even finish a short news article, and I have to stop my eyes from jumping around to find the interesting information, instead of reading properly.

In the last 4 years in an effort to read more, I've been going through phases where I take an almost complete absence from online activities and focus on reading. After a week or more of internet abstinence, I suddenly find myself able to read page after page and not think about anything else, with my concentration only straining after an hour or so, at which point I take a short break. The problem is that, while I'd like to live like this (considering how much I love reading during these phases), I always relapse and go back to destroying my attention span by scrolling imageboards, content feeds, and refreshing chats and webpages. Then I get burned out and really down because it fries my brain, and I take another break from the internet.

I actually really hate most websites that I browse, and I dislike the majority of the internet, but I love reading. So why the fuck do I keep relapsing? Why does my brain KNOW that short term dopamine kicks are worse for me than long term satisfaction from books, yet still want them? I never remember any internet content I browse, and I forget whole days within a week when I spend my time online. But when I read, I remember the stories and characters really well.

I wish I could just stop using the internet for entertainment entirely and just read and do my hobbies, but the internet has me hooked and won't let go. It burns days of my life up and I remember nothing from that time. I hate the content I browse and it doesn't satisfy me. No matter what I do though, I always relapse after a while, despite how much I genuinely enjoy, feel satisfied by, and want to read. I've tried cutting myself off from the internet 100%, but I always end up needing it to buy stuff, use services like internet banking, or, when I get lonely, talk to friends, since being completely alone is unbearable. I don't know what to do. I'd appreciate any advice


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Read novels and magazines. If it helps, select the text of a webpage & post it to notepad to read that.


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The most recent thing I've read is Roadside Picnic by thr brothers Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. Despite being the inspiration for Tarkovsky's STALKER and several games, The Zone and aliens take a backseat to the social and moral strife of a kind hearted but weak and gullible delinquent named Redrick Schuhart. It was not what I was expecting but not bad, however I was disappointed that the most the aliens were ever touched on was the eponymous bar conversation between Richard Noonan and Valentine Pilman. Overall I'd recommend it to anyone that likes sci-fi with less action and is going in as a fan of the STALKER series.

If any wizards know of any interesting and more obscure light reads similar to Roadside Picnic, possibly with a greater focus on aliens, I'm interested.


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Are there any English translations of Albert Caraco's works?


I don't think you'll stumble into anyone here that has the formula of internet independence.
If I had to guess as to why I still roam, it's probably because…
>Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.

If I stop, I have to confront the reality around me. A reality that doesn't change, doesn't reward, has no promising future. The internet gives me an illusion that reality _does_ change, but it doesn't. It gives me the illusion that I will be rewarded, since I just maybe will stumble into some wisdom that'll change everything (which it won't). Maybe I will catch wind that the world is collapsing finally.

But if I stop, well, I would have to confront the fact that I don't have any tangible answer for relationships, for my world, for people around me, to talk, to make money, what money is for, what my life is for - there is no common thread in general, by my volition. There is no coherency to this reality. Nothing makes sense at all, beyond just trying to enjoy the days that pass.

I don't have a tangible answer for my job, to slack off or not, to have a job, to have a job one despises, to bother having a job at all, to hope to quit instead of be distracted and procrastinating, is having a job even possible to enjoy, would trying hard at my job be rewarding me at all (probably not), what are the rewards or why are they rewards anyway, why do I live. There's nothing to say, nor to fix, as to fix it, would be equally pointless, as the structure around us is… well, no point. You see, I tried to find coherency in it, and am afraid that my answer requires me to quit. To change. (Which I think it does require such things)

To stop internet addiction would be to confront the inevitable spiral of incoherence that dots, at least, my existence.

No, I come online to delay everything until somehow, magically, things will change around me.
And the unfortunate circumstances around our time is that something MAY magically change, due to the instability that I'm sure I don't have to repeat for others.
And yet… will it? It gnaws and pulls apart my illusion, it makes me uncomfortable. The silence of not seeing the outside, waiting for it to move. The fact that change is molasses and may not occur, or if it does, I am still in the same position. Or why do I hope for change anyway when the coffin awaits? Why so demanding?

So I don't know.
Factually I can acknowledge that sitting on any place online, delaying my tasks at my job until it prickles me too, and so on - do I acknowledge that, fundamentally, all of this adds to my misery.
But when I confront this, there is a deeper wound to stitch underneath.
I just don't think about it, stop the neurotic circuit before it completes, as we all do, as we sedate, continue to sedate, take your pills

Internet addiction: to unravel this is to unravel the core of today's world, or at least my world.
That there is something profoundly sick I do not want to acknowledge.
So I wait. But my patience wanes, and frankly I am becoming all too keenly aware that I am losing it.
Yet when I forget all of this, I can assure you, life is great for those that pay attention to the details.
To test one's gratitude rather than pray for circumstance to change.
So I just wait. Since nothing makes sense other than to be grateful for what you have. Maybe it'll make more sense - or when it all makes too much sense, you'll feel a despair at discovering why everything is incoherent, you will feel powerless to change such things. Which I had a peak at, and would rather not peak again.

Fundamentally every word I write is suspended above a descent into hell and I'm waiting for it, preparing, just as we wait for salvation.


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Reading sayings of the desert fathers.

I took a break from reading after overconsumption and started reading this book.
The book is refreshing and filled with both funny momemnts and wisdom which is never fully explained.

I enjoy this book as it is about wizards basically who are hikikomori and isolate themselves from everyone.
What I am taking away from this book is that these men could never escape being human and struggled until death with tempation. The humility amazes me as well. Woth reading even for non religious folk, I myself am not religious.

A lot of anecdotes about these wizards being tempted by succubus.


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I've been listening to the audiobooks of Brothers Karamazov and Gomorra


Reading A Confederacy of Dunces currently. I'm really enjoying it.


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I just read pic related (They shoot horses… don't they?) 4/10

I found this book when searching for depressing books to read and it certainly has that appeal.
The book can drag on a bit despite being only short but it is not a bad book at all just not one I would say is very good.
The popularity comes from the subject matter a lot like the bell jar, another book I don't think is worthy of the praise when you think about what it is and not when it was made as well as the cultural significance.

The book was made into a movie and after reading it I think it would be more suited as a movie- I felt let down by the lack of building of character it is a shame but I have high standards for my entertainment.

I found it hard to relate to the character which should be most relatable beyond a superficial level as the book devoted no time to building the character up in any way.


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Has anyone read this?
It's just 24 pages long. I finished it in 40 minutes.
It's one of those less known Dostoyevsky masterpieces.


what is the style he uses as compared to his other works?


Hello friends. Share good reading


read stoner


How do you feel about gothic horror?


Hello friends.
Do you have any guides/lists/ of books related to wizardy, social isolation, hopeless, loneliness?

I particularly interested in philosophical books.


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a good guide would be https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Depressing_Lit

Do you mean pessimism? the book linked is good even if soft philosophy and proseful but another reason for reading it is to get other books on pessimism to read. The second attachment is a reading list


Just making it clear these books are not strictly pessimism but there is a lot of crossover with antinatalist books


I just started the book of disquiet and it looks promising for a wizardly read uwu


Those themes come up a lot in hard sci-fi relating to deep space and space faring.

I don't have a list or guide but I would check out the genera if those themes interest you. There are more stories about people dealing with being isolated in space then you can shake a stick at. It is practically a cliche of the genera.


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