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Book discussion. Tell us what you're reading.
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>>60032>>54504 No.67748
I have The trouble with Canada… Still on my stack right now and am leafing through it. Boomer junk from the 90's rewritten for a new audience as if there's some stable continuity. I really have to stop picking up whatever book I see in the thrifter without deeply researching the authors or spending a few minutes seeing the quality of arguments. This guy wrote a 400 page book that reads like a boomer talking about whatever daily happenings hit his newspaper diet while codifying it in worthless, abstract philosophy. And of course… small government is the essence of conservatism! There's so much junk nonfiction in the world these days, like podcasters who really don't know much about a subject talking to a video with maybe a few hundred views.
No.67810
What's the essential /wiz/ fiction and non fiction books?
No.67811
>>67810we need a chart about it. I suggest the metamorphosis by kafka. the main protagonist get in trouble and became a burdden for the family. sounds like wizards that turn into neets/hiki who become a burdden for the family
No.67812
>>67810To me? Cosmic horror.
No.67832
>>67810My list:
Mars - Fritz Zorn
No Longer Human - Osamu Dazai
Bartleby the Scrivener - Herman Melville
Skylark - Dezső Kosztolányi
The Bet - Anton Chekhov
Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
Confession - Leo Tolstoy
Also, though I haven't read it, Book of Disquiet gets recommended pretty much continuously here
No.67841
>>67289Charles Bukowski, but you have to ignore all the succubi parts and focus on the solitude and life parts.
Check "You Get So Alone at Times That it Just Makes Sense", it's perfect for Wizards as you can tell by the title.
No.67842
>>67521Yes it's a great place to start, most are short and interesting and only a few, like The Laws, are very boring and you can simply skip them.
The Republic is not short, but it's the best one. If you like that one, folow with Politics by Aristotle, he was Plato's student and he comments on The Republic on it.
After that, I suggest you check the Stoics.
No.67843
>>67569Here the link to download it if some one wants to check it out:
https://annas-archive.org/search?q=No+language+but+a+cry No.67875
Read the first two books to Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. A short but fun read, imaginative with lots of things going on. My only gripe would be Arthur, the MC, being so brain-dead, just stumbling along from one event to another without really adapting to his situation.
No.67879
>>67522there is good sight to be gained that you would not have come up with yourself or simply would take too long to do it and it would be a waste of time. I agree with you that most of it is worthless though.
No.67894
Reading Star Wars Force Awakens novelization, seems a shameless rip-off of New Hope
No.67897
Any good NEETdom novel?
No.67898
>>67897beside welcome to nhk, I don't know any. maybe japanese authors are more so to write a book about hikkineet because the phenomenon is a japanese thing studied for years so now hikkikomori are well known. but I don't know if a non-japanese has already wrote a book about neet and telling you to search on internet would be like a pain in the ass because it is non-existant or 1%
No.67905
>>67902>r9k litdo not read these crab shit, it's poison to your brain. do not feed your brain with poison.
do not describe/identify yourself as an crab. as you do this, you going to relate on this books and you legitimize being subhuman and cope like that.
>inb4 le reddit image>inb4 le i have very low iq and i think every positive thing i do is for society and normiesstop this childish bullshit please. and time is flowing, remember that before you make a choice of how you identify yourself.
No.67906
>>67905you are the vegan faggot who makes being a vegan his whole identity and hates anime and writes like a fucking redditor, nobody should take advice from you, you are also mentally ill lmfao.
No.67911
>>67907>>67906>you this you that, because you press enter while writing a post>you like (insert childish delusional stereotype here) because my ass hurtsgrow up.
No.67912
>>67905>>67905Like it or not, original wizardchan was a off-shoot from old /r9k/ before the crab took over, so many of those book are indeed related to wizarddom
No.67917
>>67916The Second Apocalypse series, peak dark, it's a mature dark, even more dark than song of ice and fire, very dark, bleak, almost nihilistic in a sense, read the first Trilogy to see if you like it.
No.67919
>>67917ok thank you very much
No.68011
Just finished Seneca's 'On Anger' and plan to read 'On Mercy' soonish. First I want to make more progress on:
>'Slenderman' by Kathleen Hale
Supposed to be an in-depth investigation/study of the stabbing in Wisconsin a whole-ass decade ago and the crazy bitches who did it, a crime almost as heinous as the movie 'Slender' released a few years afterward!
>'The Lord of the Rings' by J.R.R. Tolkien
I am *finally* reading this fucker after way too long, the copy I bought in 2011 having read The Hobbit in 2010! And you know what, it's alright. 70 pages in and the Hobbits are finally getting the fuck out of the Shire, let's go.
No.68047
LDAR and suicide by diet in Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut:
What the Englishman said about survival was this 'If you stop taking pride in your appearance, you will very soon die.' He said that he had seen several men die in the following way: They ceased to stand up straight, then ceased to shave or wash, then ceased to get out of bed, then ceased to talk, then died. There is this much to be said for it: it is evidently a very easy and painless way to go.' So it goes. The Englishman said that he, when captured, had made and kept the following vows to himself: To brush his teeth twice a day, to shave once a day, to wash his face and hands before every meal and after going to the latrine, to polish his shoes once a day, to exercise for at least half an hour each morning and then move his bowels, and to look into a mirror frequently, frankly evaluating his appearance, particularly with respect to posture
Billy Pilgrim heard all this while lying in his nest. He looked not at the Englishman's
face but his ankles.
'I envy you lads,' said the Englishman.
Somebody laughed. Billy wondered what the joke was.
'You lads are leaving this afternoon for Dresden-a beautiful city, I'm told. You won't be cooped up like us. You'll be out where the life is, and the food is certain to be more plentiful than here. If I may inject a personal note: It has been five years now since I have seen a tree or flower or succubus or child-or a dog or a cat or a place of entertainment, or a human being doing useful work of any kind.
A resentful anti-war book full of friendless characters.
Spoilers:
»What had been missed was a Tiger tank. It swiveled its 88-millimeter snout around sniffingly, saw the arrow on the ground. It fired. It killed everybody on the gun crew but Weary. So it goes. Roland Weary was only eighteen, was at the end of an unhappy childhood spent mostly in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He had been unpopular in Pittsburgh. He had been unpopular because he was stupid and fat and mean, and smelled like bacon no matter how much he washed. He was always being ditched in Pittsburgh by people who did not want him with them. It made Weary sick to be ditched. When Weary was ditched, he would find somebody who was even more unpopular than himself, and he would horse around with that person for a while, pretending to be friendly. And then he would find some pretext for beating the shit out of him. It was a pattern … 'You have friends?' Derby wanted to know. 'In the war?' said Lazzaro. 'Yeah-I had a friend in the war. He's dead.' So it goes. 'That's too bad.' Lazzaro's eyes were twinkling again. 'Yeah. He was my buddy on the boxcar. His name was Roland Weary. He died in my arms.' Now he pointed to Billy with his one mobile hand. 'He died on account of this silly cocksucker here. So I promised him I'd have this silly cocksucker shot after the war… With regard to the whereabouts of Kilgore Trout: he actually lived in Ilium, Billy's hometown, friendless and despised. Billy would meet him by and by«
No.68048
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_on_the_Galactic_RailroadI bought this book, it has inspired leiji matsumoto' ge 999 (my favorite anime). I hope I'll enjoy it
No.68059
>>68058>On BullshitA classic right up there with such barcade gender-neutral bathroom softcovers like "The Art Of Not Giving A Fuck", "Having A Normal One", and "What Your Zodiac Sign Says About Your Vibes"
No.68086
Currently reading "shutting out the sun", a non fiction book about the hikikomori phenomenon in Japan, quiet interesting, and the author makes clear that hikikomori is mainly a japanese culture bounded problem, like there's no "western" hikikomori because they aren't suffering from the same cultural pressure and context as the japanese.
No.68087
>>68086intresting, what does it say about the non japanese hiki (the actual paragraph)
do you have a pdf of it?
No.68090
>>68087It's not explicit said, it's implicit that being a hikikomori is born from a set of peculiar circumstances of japanese culture, saying that a western is a hikikomori is wrong, because they aren't suffering from the same social pressure that japanese society do.
No.68112
Finished "Shutting out the Sun", a book about hikikomori, and much more about the whole japanese cultural context that give rise the phenomenon of hikikomori, interesting as it show that hikikomori usually doesn't fall neatly under some psychiatric schema, it's more of a cultural born problem than a genuine mental illness, so saying "I'm a hiki" while being a western is oxymoronic, there's no western hikis, only NEETs that are more recluse than others.
No.68113
>>68090>>68086It is completely arbitrary whether to define the word hikikomori in a more general way like "shut in" or "hermit" or make it specific to japan. How much the conditions compare and contrast between cultures will be on a spectrum
No.68153
How the fuck do I into reading? I don't want to sit because I sit all day, and lying in bed makes me tired. I guess I just have to sit.
No.68154
>>68153Idk, reread your favorite childhood book first.
No.68155
>>68153You could read standing, sitting, laying, or even pacing.
Personally I prefer audiobooks because my eyes get tired, but I can manage normal books if I take frequent breaks every few pages.
As for getting started, maybe start with short stories and novellas, as well as the other wizard's suggestion of reading stuff you liked in the past.
No.68161
just read jude the obscure and this is a fairly trivial thing to say i know, but what's with the obsession with tea and tea time in these english novels
No.68189
I read one fiction, and two nonfiction at once. Fiction for pleasure, nonfiction for my philosophical interests (hint: toothbrush).
No.68210
What you people are reading now?
No.68244
>>67905You have never read a single one of these books. And it's not because you think that it's "poison", it's simple because you are unable to read something and disagree or because you don't have any interest in literature and just want to give advice about things you don't understand or know, playing the grow up. How I know it?
>A Man Asleep, by Georges PerecsThe final message of the book is that the protagonist spent the whole book running away from something that you cannot run away from: The passage of time. The last chapter is a slap in the face of anyone who was identifying himself with the protagonist or supporting his actions.
>OblomovOpposing Oblomov indifference we are constantly reading about Stolz, a german who is the complete opposite of Oblomov, thus making us never fully support or even like poor Oblomov. At the end of the book we, even us wizards, are unable to support the kind of life that Oblomov had, but still we feel like we understand why was he the way that he is.
I could keep describing some of the books I have read from this list, but I cannot say about a single one of these that it supports being called a "crab" or accepting it.
>TLDR: Nigga doesn't read and want to give reading advice based in nothing but revelations coming directly from his dirt ass No.68245
>>68244whats your take on NHK? I want to know
No.68250
>>68245I didn't read the light novel yet. But both in the anime/mangá Satou is not glorified in any way and sincerely it will be a big surprise if the author has found some way to do so in the light novel. In the manga he seems more likeable because of the way the author portrays Misaki (a liar who was using Satou to have some fun from what I remember) but that's it.
What made you curious about my take on NHK? What's your take on NHK?
No.68251
>>68250>What made you curious about my take on NHK? youve read all these books on the chart so I thought you were knowlegable on the subject, so I asked you about NHK which I like. >What's your take on NHK?
I read the LN, the 'rebuild of NHK', watched the anime and read the manga. All I can say is either the LN, the rebuild or the anime or the manga: non made a good ending. it needs more. the story doesn't look finished to me.
No.68253
>>68251I could say the same as you did. To me the story of Satou should go beyond the ending of the anime (I can only remember the ending of the anime at this moment), where he finally gets a job, since as a neet I think that he would have a lot of hardships trying to readapt himself to what would be called a "normal life".
Actually I didn't read all the books in the chart, but I've read some of them and a lot more since I'm really interested in literature.
Besides NHK, have you read other books?
No.68254
>>68253>Besides NHK, have you read other books?yes, I've read the metamorphosis, the castle and america by kafka, blade runner, dune, the black company, the great meaulnes, I don't remember the orther books. I didn't read that much books (more manga tho)
No.68425
>>68251Did you not get the ending?
I mean it's one of the best ending in anime I have seen .
I recommend you to watch the last 3 eps again but this time do it at 3AM .
NHK is one of the fav and best anime I have even seen and the ending is great too . You just have to get the point which it end link that
No.68427
>>68425>Did you not get the ending?what was about to get? can you explain to me please?
also, I think NHK needs a sequel