No.68757
bojack sucks ass, who the fuck watch this or rick and morty ;to me its for normalfagw
No.68766
>>68757I haven't watched it yet but I heard it has pretty phenomenal writing so my expectations are a bit high.
What did you not like about it?
No.68772
>>68766>What did you not like about it?its american so you have american jokes but done badly. (just compare south park
even if I heard its pozzed now, don't know if true to rick and morty or bojack). bojack and rick and morty are ugly and for normalfag reddit niggers
why do you like bojack and rick and morty?
No.68774
>>68772Is it safe to say you didn't actually watch it and hate it categorically and out of principle rather than it's actual content being objectionable?
No.68815
>>68813Honistly the age of network cartoons might be near it's end for awhile.
Almost nothing at all is getting funded anymore when it comes to made for tv cartoons, and streaming turned out not to be all that sustainable for most shows ether.
Without a new template to figure out how to consistently make a predictable profit networks won't feel comfortable enough to take any sort of risk when it comes to something as expensive and time consuming as network produced animated shows.
Low risk usually means lowest common detonator as target audience, so they quite literally can't afford anything that might alienate such a audience.
I do hope that the industry finds a new equilibrium though. Movie studios are almost all focused on 3d and have been for 15 or so years. TV animation was largely safe from this trend and became the place to watch 2d animation shine, even if on a lower budget obviously.
But now even that is slowly dying out.
No.68834
>>68815That is very sad to hear. That explains why the only thing that gets new seasons is TTgo. Still, it's sad that the cartoon channels don't take risks and just go for the easy stuff, that's why Nick only has room for SpongeBob and Loud House. If they don't have the same numbers as those series, they get cancelled. Or even sadder, woke writers who think everything should stand for something and only know how to destroy franchises, like those 2 idiots screwed up Avatar.
You think independent animation can replace the networks at least in quality.
Do you think that independent animation, represented by Glitch, has betrayed itself by giving place to Danna Bitch Terrence?
No.68835
>>68834>You think independent animation can replace the networks at least in quality.It quality, yes, but in a ton of other important factors they will struggle.
>Do you think that independent animation, represented by Glitch, has betrayed itself by giving place to Danna Bitch Terrence?I am not well informed on that situation. I will say that often compromises often need to be made in collaborative projects to get anything done, so it wouldn't surprise me if things behind the scenes aren't ideal.
No.68851
>>68849I will fully admit my ignorance of the factors around this particular project.
As you brought up, legal and licensing for something like this are tricky. That said they are actually making pretty consistent progress on their pilot. If they are able to get it into the right hands at the right time they might be able to get the right backing to push through the rather difficult legal stuff. Though it's a longshot.
That said the merchandising possibilities are massive, so I could see the business people part of the industry being interested, as this could be a vehicle to push higher end retro merch.
Plus since old staff of the show likely still have industry connections so once the pilot is done they could shop it around.
The main issue is just timing. Right now sonic is a hot property. The movies are big hits, the current show is doing well, the newer games are also doing well, and walk into any place that sells toys and collectables and you will see sonic stuff doing decent.
Plus Saga has been taking a good look at it's old IP and licensing opportunities so odds are they wouldn't be against it as long as they got their cut. They aren't like Nintendo. They not only offer better licensing deals, but they also are less restrictive with fan projects.
So if they finished the pilot soonish the timing would be about as good as it ever will be.
The main factor I am mostly unsure about is the legal situation involving Dic IP.
Also everything is reliant on a high quality pilot coming out with good timing. Seen it happen too many times where something happens and projects ether collapse or slow to a crawl, or really good pilots not going anywhere because they had bad timing so couldn't get picked up anywhere. That said, from what I have seen on the patreon, the people clearly are the real deal when it comes to skill and organization. So I don't think it's likely the project with be of low quality or fall apart in the middle.
Overall, it's hard to say.
It's a niche project, but the fanbase is passionate and I can see it making business sense on the corpo side of things.
It will probably all come down to the timing of the pilot coming out.
No.68852
>>68843
There's plenty of time for you to write a post and actually contribute to the discussion as is this boards intention. Dropping a YouTube embed and writing the video title isn't a contribution.
What is that video, and what are your opinions on it?
No.68854

>>68851Thanks for this very detailed answer.sonic fandom never ceases to amaze me when they do something good. This project was born out of the dying wish of the head writer of sonic satam showrunner Ben Hurst, who always said he wanted to finish the series proper. It seems that his idea was to offer a movie to sega america and, knowing that it would be too much money for a relatively new IP, they offered him instead to make the third season, others say that the third season for television was what he wanted, and he was about to get it, he was already in contact with sega, but ken penders ruined it by sabotaging the legal aspect of Antoine, Bunnie, Sally, Rotor, and the other characters created for the show, belong to sega, according to some recently found documents.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/news/media/newly-unearthed-document-sheds-light-on-sonic-satam-cancellation-reaffirms-segas-freedom-fighter-ownership-r2778/These are some of the fansites that Ben Hurst participated in, giving interviews, discarded ideas from the show, and sometimes just his memories working on the show that he and the rest of the crew loved the most.
https://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/features/ben_hurst/https://www.sonicepoch.com/?content=hurstRest in peace Ben Hurst, I hope in heaven a choir of mobians have been waiting for you.
>"If Mr. Hurst was a mobian, what species would he be? He could cameo."> I would be whatever species that would be compatible with Sally because I'm in love with her.At least he died before Ian Flynn and his wife turned Sally into a lesbian, or bisexual or whatever she is now, But not enough to see Ken Penders turn her into a bitch, and sally break up with sonic because the writer at the time wanted him to be with Amy, Even if in archie canon it made more sense for him to be with Sally.
No.68863
>>68860
>A thread for those who enjoy and wish to discuss animation
>and wish to discuss animation
>discuss animation
Do you have something to discuss?
This isn't a dump thread.
No.68872
>>68871
The first one was discussed in the last thread.
Haven't seen the second one yet.
What did you think of it without spoilers?
Will also again point out this isn't a dump thread.
Don't just dump youtube vids without having anything to say.
No.68892
>>68875>Today we only have shows inspired by the cheap sappy sentimentality of steven universeSteven Universe is kinda old to use as a example of modern cartoon writing.
The last addition to the show was over 5 years ago.
Most modern shows are just adaptations of older properties being continuily recycled.
If you want good examples of modern cartoon writing then it's probably better to keep a eye on movies.
For example Puss and Boots: Last Wish had excellent writing.
No.69232
>>69223>Why nobody tries to do more dark comedy whit a serious approach like moral OrelYou do recall what happened to that show right?
It was seen as "too dark" by the adult swim executives. With network tv there are limits and that show pushed most of those limits and was punished for it.
No.69249
>>69232>It was seen as "too dark" by the adult swim executives. With network tv there are limits and that show pushed most of those limits and was punished for it.So, this is too realistic for the network. They have an actual evil parent to write about him in the most humanly patethic ways. In ways only know by torn souls… But no, say the network.
Wubba lubba dub dub, says the network, have bunch of gory childish adult cartoons instead.
No.69279
>>69035>so called childhood traumakek
No.69572
>>68756three words
Ozzy and Drix was a *dope* cartoon
WBs cartoons in general are cool
"Private SNAFU" was ebin even in XXI century
No.69576
>>69574sorry t_t
I wanted to post this
SOYUZMULTFILM
"France Animation"