/hob/ - Hobbies

bojack sucks ass, who the fuck watch this or rick and morty ;to me its for normalfagw

>>68757
I haven't watched it yet but I heard it has pretty phenomenal writing so my expectations are a bit high.

What did you not like about it?

>>68766
>What did you not like about it?
its american so you have american jokes but done badly. (just compare south park even if I heard its pozzed now, don't know if true to rick and morty or bojack). bojack and rick and morty are ugly and for normalfag reddit niggers
why do you like bojack and rick and morty?

>>68772
Is it safe to say you didn't actually watch it and hate it categorically and out of principle rather than it's actual content being objectionable?

>>68774
yes

Sonic teaching kids what to do in case of harassment

>>68781
thank you sonic

>>68781
Sonic teaching about the dangers of smoking

>>68781
>>68783
Heres all the sonic says psa. Hard to believe there was a time that had to sonic cartoons on air at the same time

Animated short based on pickman model

Say what you want about beast machines, but at least the ost was really cool

No modern cartoon can compare to Hey Arnold. Some say Craig of the Creek is like a modern version, but I don't think so. The conflicts are too fanciful, while in Arnold we can see things like depression, drug addiction and dysfunctional families. Here's Maxwell Atoms response on why there are no dark cartoons anymore, maybe the same applies to something like Hey Arnold.

>>68813
Honistly the age of network cartoons might be near it's end for awhile.
Almost nothing at all is getting funded anymore when it comes to made for tv cartoons, and streaming turned out not to be all that sustainable for most shows ether.

Without a new template to figure out how to consistently make a predictable profit networks won't feel comfortable enough to take any sort of risk when it comes to something as expensive and time consuming as network produced animated shows.
Low risk usually means lowest common detonator as target audience, so they quite literally can't afford anything that might alienate such a audience.

I do hope that the industry finds a new equilibrium though. Movie studios are almost all focused on 3d and have been for 15 or so years. TV animation was largely safe from this trend and became the place to watch 2d animation shine, even if on a lower budget obviously.
But now even that is slowly dying out.

>>68815

That is very sad to hear. That explains why the only thing that gets new seasons is TTgo. Still, it's sad that the cartoon channels don't take risks and just go for the easy stuff, that's why Nick only has room for SpongeBob and Loud House. If they don't have the same numbers as those series, they get cancelled. Or even sadder, woke writers who think everything should stand for something and only know how to destroy franchises, like those 2 idiots screwed up Avatar.

You think independent animation can replace the networks at least in quality.
Do you think that independent animation, represented by Glitch, has betrayed itself by giving place to Danna Bitch Terrence?

>>68834
>You think independent animation can replace the networks at least in quality.
It quality, yes, but in a ton of other important factors they will struggle.
>Do you think that independent animation, represented by Glitch, has betrayed itself by giving place to Danna Bitch Terrence?
I am not well informed on that situation. I will say that often compromises often need to be made in collaborative projects to get anything done, so it wouldn't surprise me if things behind the scenes aren't ideal.

>>68815
You seem to know a lot about animation, because you are talking with facts, not like those idiots in co. I wanted to ask you, is there any chance of airing the third season of sonic satam, which is made by the old staff of the show, fans of the show and a lot of younger people. They may run into legal problems from Dic or sega, or they have a chance to do it because it is a fan project.

https://www.patreon.com/sea3on

>>68849
I will fully admit my ignorance of the factors around this particular project.

As you brought up, legal and licensing for something like this are tricky. That said they are actually making pretty consistent progress on their pilot. If they are able to get it into the right hands at the right time they might be able to get the right backing to push through the rather difficult legal stuff. Though it's a longshot.
That said the merchandising possibilities are massive, so I could see the business people part of the industry being interested, as this could be a vehicle to push higher end retro merch.
Plus since old staff of the show likely still have industry connections so once the pilot is done they could shop it around.

The main issue is just timing. Right now sonic is a hot property. The movies are big hits, the current show is doing well, the newer games are also doing well, and walk into any place that sells toys and collectables and you will see sonic stuff doing decent.
Plus Saga has been taking a good look at it's old IP and licensing opportunities so odds are they wouldn't be against it as long as they got their cut. They aren't like Nintendo. They not only offer better licensing deals, but they also are less restrictive with fan projects.
So if they finished the pilot soonish the timing would be about as good as it ever will be.

The main factor I am mostly unsure about is the legal situation involving Dic IP.

Also everything is reliant on a high quality pilot coming out with good timing. Seen it happen too many times where something happens and projects ether collapse or slow to a crawl, or really good pilots not going anywhere because they had bad timing so couldn't get picked up anywhere. That said, from what I have seen on the patreon, the people clearly are the real deal when it comes to skill and organization. So I don't think it's likely the project with be of low quality or fall apart in the middle.

Overall, it's hard to say.
It's a niche project, but the fanbase is passionate and I can see it making business sense on the corpo side of things.
It will probably all come down to the timing of the pilot coming out.

>>68843
There's plenty of time for you to write a post and actually contribute to the discussion as is this boards intention. Dropping a YouTube embed and writing the video title isn't a contribution.

What is that video, and what are your opinions on it?

>>68851
Thanks for this very detailed answer.sonic fandom never ceases to amaze me when they do something good. This project was born out of the dying wish of the head writer of sonic satam showrunner Ben Hurst, who always said he wanted to finish the series proper. It seems that his idea was to offer a movie to sega america and, knowing that it would be too much money for a relatively new IP, they offered him instead to make the third season, others say that the third season for television was what he wanted, and he was about to get it, he was already in contact with sega, but ken penders ruined it by sabotaging the legal aspect of Antoine, Bunnie, Sally, Rotor, and the other characters created for the show, belong to sega, according to some recently found documents.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/news/media/newly-unearthed-document-sheds-light-on-sonic-satam-cancellation-reaffirms-segas-freedom-fighter-ownership-r2778/

These are some of the fansites that Ben Hurst participated in, giving interviews, discarded ideas from the show, and sometimes just his memories working on the show that he and the rest of the crew loved the most.
https://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/features/ben_hurst/
https://www.sonicepoch.com/?content=hurst

Rest in peace Ben Hurst, I hope in heaven a choir of mobians have been waiting for you.

>"If Mr. Hurst was a mobian, what species would he be? He could cameo."
> I would be whatever species that would be compatible with Sally because I'm in love with her.

At least he died before Ian Flynn and his wife turned Sally into a lesbian, or bisexual or whatever she is now, But not enough to see Ken Penders turn her into a bitch, and sally break up with sonic because the writer at the time wanted him to be with Amy, Even if in archie canon it made more sense for him to be with Sally.

>>68854
Heres an interview with the man himself

>>68860
>A thread for those who enjoy and wish to discuss animation
>and wish to discuss animation
>discuss animation
Do you have something to discuss?
This isn't a dump thread.

>>68871
The first one was discussed in the last thread.
Haven't seen the second one yet.
What did you think of it without spoilers?

Will also again point out this isn't a dump thread.
Don't just dump youtube vids without having anything to say.

What is the problem with modern cartoon writing? Compare it with dinobot's writing. A character in a complex in a dilemma among its predacon heritage, his maximal loyalty with a strong sense of honor. Dinobot attempts suicide for this very reason. Until he decides to make a decision and realizes that he no longer has a choice. Even so, knowing that he was going to die anyway, he confronts and defeats all the predacons. It brought a tear to my eye, and I had not seen beast wars until today.

>Tell my tale to those who ask.Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly.The rest is silence

Today we only have shows inspired by the cheap sappy sentimentality of steven universe.

>>68875
>Today we only have shows inspired by the cheap sappy sentimentality of steven universe
Steven Universe is kinda old to use as a example of modern cartoon writing.

The last addition to the show was over 5 years ago.

Most modern shows are just adaptations of older properties being continuily recycled.

If you want good examples of modern cartoon writing then it's probably better to keep a eye on movies.

For example Puss and Boots: Last Wish had excellent writing.

Some sonic fans have been making their own movie since 2019, in which you can see all the villains of the franchise face sonic, even the super sonic of fleetway will appear. The only thing I don't like is that the Sally and Nicole that appear are the ones from the rebboted continuity, making them lesbians. It's better than that skunk, I guess

Why is so hard to make an emotional cartoon that feels real. Some of these writers think with a little ghibli tears, and some so called childhood trauma they can make characters that fell real.

Just look at this scene the last unicorn, most of us will be happy of watching an unicorn, but not molly. She knows watching an symbol of purity like an unicorn just reflects who much she is no longer pure and inocent.

Why most of the adults shows are just copies of the simpsons, rick and morty or worse, family guy, with a lol so randumb aproach of humor?

Why nobody tries to do more dark comedy whit a serious approach like moral Orel, and why every evil character has to be redeemed? Or far worse, his evil being relative. Just look at Clay, the show shows how he has a actual chilhood trauma, not something stupid like most of the modern writing, but the writers dont try to make the watcher to empathise with him, or fell pity for him. Just an evil characters who hides himself in the disguise of the mayor of a fundamentalist town

>>69223
>Why nobody tries to do more dark comedy whit a serious approach like moral Orel
You do recall what happened to that show right?
It was seen as "too dark" by the adult swim executives. With network tv there are limits and that show pushed most of those limits and was punished for it.

>>69232
>It was seen as "too dark" by the adult swim executives. With network tv there are limits and that show pushed most of those limits and was punished for it.

So, this is too realistic for the network. They have an actual evil parent to write about him in the most humanly patethic ways. In ways only know by torn souls… But no, say the network.
Wubba lubba dub dub, says the network, have bunch of gory childish adult cartoons instead.

>>69035
>so called childhood trauma
kek

A product of its time. But my, oh, my, what a product..

>>68756
three words

Ozzy and Drix was a *dope* cartoon


WBs cartoons in general are cool

"Private SNAFU" was ebin even in XXI century

>>69574
sorry t_t


I wanted to post this


SOYUZMULTFILM


"France Animation"

Snoopy Webseries (2018–2019)
Snoopy in Space (2019–2021)
The Snoopy Show (2021–2023)
Camp Snoopy (2024-2034)
Snoopy Gives Me A Rusty Trombone (2034-2469)

I finally know why I can never be a professional cartoonist, like my heroes, Mike Judge or Bill Amend.

unlike both of them, I'm not a Physics Major ;_;..