No.25624
>>25623Yeah , and you have to wagecuck and be surrounded by a flood of people
"Wizards" who wanna live in a big Asian city are not wizards.
No.25625
>>25624Especially when Japan's wageslavery is 100x worse than what we get in the west.
>"Wizards" who wanna live in a big Asian city are not wizards.Stop saying nonsense.
No.25627
>>25624>>25625
>Especially when Japan's wageslavery is 100x worse than what we get in the west.there are 9 to 5 jobs as well, if I was more skilled and was fluent in japanese I'd move there
for the past 10 years I have just been staying a month or two every other year though
>Yeah , and you have to wagecuck good if you can NEET safe and stable until death but I cannot
>and be surrounded by a flood of people it's not that bad and results in tons of amenities like 7-11s on every corner
>"Wizards" who wanna live in a big Asian city are not wizards.if you aren't amerifat you can't really move to the middle of nowhere and live in a cabin
as someone who is obviously "off" to normies small towns and small cities were always unbearable to me, in big cities nobody gives a shit
No.25628
>>25624Big asian city (except south asia, of course) is the most wizardly place to live, realistically speaking. Anonymity, reserved culture and good conveniences. The crowds are just part of the scenery.
No.25629
>>25628>>25627I lived 2years in a ski resort close to the mountains , I had internet and could shop , I can tell you it's the best thing for a wizard to live close to nature
But fine go bury yourself in chink city we don't need you there
No.25630
>>25629Living on a ski resort isn't something I'd call "realistic" unless you have significant funds. Which most wizards don't. But sure, I'd love to have a villa in the Alps too.
No.25631
OP kills a /jp/ thread to open space for shit flinging discussion. Please, kindly fuck off.
No.25633
>>25632I doubt that it's easy to get such a job.
No.25634
>tokyo
I never understood why people want to go to metropolitan concrete jungles. If I could I would retire in Okinawa or in a rural region of Nagano.
>wageslavery
the avg part time worker earns 300 yen per hour. Thats roughly 3$ per hour. 39% of Japanese workers are only hired part time. Especially young people will sometimes rent a large appartement and share it with up to 10 other people because everything is fucking expensive in tokyo. They also have this work to death thing.
No.25635
>>25634It's the cyberpunk weebs. Wait till they discover what living in an Asian metropolis is like. It's like NYC but more people and more wageslavery.
No.25636
When I eventually become fluent in Japanese, I still will not want to go to Japan. Not even to visit.
As long as there is little crime, good internet, and relative nature there's no reason to move anywhere. Sounds like a grass being greener thing to me.
No.25637
>>25623Japs are
the normies. But: The most tolerable.
I don't give a fuck about them, if they stay calm, polite and introvert.
They internalized the principles of controlling the
self in favor of overall harmony.
I rather would like to improve myself to endure hardships and emotional stress.
If I manage that, life everywhere is possible. You can have shit towns and good towns all over the planet.
I don't like work and so life in Japan is made for Uber-normies. Only normie extremists make it in Japan.
It requires discipline and passion, which I don't have.
No.25639
>>25638Just come to rural Europe it's objectively better
No.25640
>>25639Rural Europe (especially the Alpine region and Ireland) is high-tier too, but I like Japanese aesthetics slightly better still.
Also spirituality-wise Europe has been decimated by centuries of abrahamic tyranny.
No.25641
>>25638You're retarded. You will be "that one wiz gaijin" in a village otherwise 99% composed of Japanese rural folk. Village peasants tend to be community oriented, and Japs don't tend to be too open to foreigners, especially in small communities.
>>25639>>25640Even in European villages, you have to be accepted by the villagers or they will make your life hell. Cities are better because you're just another body in the sea of bodies. Normalcattle are too busy to even look at you, and if they do they won't look twice.
No.25642
>>25641Did you even read my post, genius?
>You will be "that one wiz gaijin" in a village otherwise 99% composed of Japanese rural folk.That's exactly what I was talking about, and that is why it is virtually impossible for an immigrant to live there. Although depends on the type of village - if it is more of a rural town or a suburbs, no one would give a fuck about you still, but to buy a house in such an area is virtually impossible for an average gaijin.
Anyway, enjoy your crowded concrete jungles full of fumes and noise pollution. I used to live in a metropolis too but luckily made an exodus to a suburban village 6 years ago, so I know the difference from personal experience not just some memes.
No.25644
>>25642>Anyway, enjoy your crowded concrete jungles full of fumes and noise pollution. I used to live in a metropolis too but luckily made an exodus to a suburban village 6 years ago, so I know the difference from personal experience not just some memes.It comes down to personal preference. I apologize for misinterpreting your earlier post.
No.25652
>>25641>Even in European villages, you have to be accepted by the villagers or they will make your life hell.At least for Germany I can tell: Due to rationalization, in the smallest villages pubs, public offices and shops vanished; there is no way for other people gossiping, or the spreading of it isn't noticable. Plus, I nearly see nobody of my neigbours. They work in the city or retire quietly. Even though I show antisocial behavior and look weird, nobody made my life hell (it was already). Annoying youngsters who are prone to gossip live in cites, too.
But it also depends on the state you live in: Bavaria may focuse on traditional communities while lower saxony doesn't give a fuck.
No.25655
oh yeah so comfy being in the second most insular place on earth where everyone resents your gaijin ass divershitizing their ancestral homeland
if you weaboos love japan so much you'd have the decency to stay out
No.25656
>>25655>sucking nip cock this muchHello /pol/.Japanese society is actually extremely degenerate. Please stop acting like it's traditionnal paradise on earth.
No.25657
>>25655It's like you didn't even read a single post ITT.
>weaboosNice one.
No.25682
>>25657like the original post?
"I'd love to move there if I could."
No.25683
>tokyo
fucking meme city, there are way better places in japan. curious why you rank tokyo so highly.
No.25684
>curious why you rank tokyo so highly
probably because anime does
No.25686
>>25655Who gives a fuck if they resent me internally? As long as the outward behavior is polite I can go about my day with no issues. I'm not going to be accepted by any society at all so who cares?
No.25703
>>25686it's the principle of the thing
No.25704
>>25703Wizkids have no principles or sense of honour/dignity.
No.25705
>>25686there isn't even a resentment, I make some wapanese uncomfy as I'm that tall white dude from the far more brute'ish world outside of Japan but I meet plenty of people that seem genuinely happy to meet me as well
I have never had such interactions in the western world
hostility and / or contempt is the default emotion for people towards me back home in europoor
random neighbors even greet me in my anonymous apartment building monstrosity where people generally ignore each other
I feel things will turn against me though with the 2020 olympics
shibuya is already full of bro type tourists aggressively pursuing japanese succubi and I'm hardly ever in the area anymore as I know I'd get into a fight with these douchebags sooner or later
No.25706
I'd like to live in an anime too, but quite frankly the reality doesn't live up to the fantasy. Ever.
Living in Tokyo would be hell, especially so for a wiz foreigner. Go study, go spend a holiday there. But living and working in such a hellish wageslave environment? It's not worth it and you likely wouldn't even get that far anyways.
No.25707
>>25706If you land a job at a western company office, where western work culture applies, it's not that bad. In the sense that you won't be expected to work 4 hours overtime every day.
No.25709
is everyone in japan overworked or just the office workers? maybe I'm dumb but I can't imagine any other job, like retail, or cooking ramen, where suicidal levels of overtime is the norm
No.25710
>>25709It's mostly a meme. But what little truth there is pertains mostly corporate drones, yes. That being said, working hours have gone down in Japan significantly during the last couple decades. The "everyone's overworked" stereotype was born around the 80s I think.
No.25711
>>25710Look up the term "karoshi". It's far from being a "le meme".
No.25726
>>25710Read some (more or less honest) blogs about living in Japan. The working hours haven't gone down at all, only the prosperity. This discrepancy is what gave rise to mass desertions from full time jobs and the rise of freeters.
No.25736
>rise of freeters
lol no. The economy is shit in japan. 39% of the labour force is only employed temporarily.
Those freeters would probably not even be hired for anything that was not entry level. Then again there are also young people who genuinely reject the japanese work culture. I read of one female who was supposed to work 12 hours a day in her office to get by with her workload. She could not handle it anymore and eventually she quit.
The temps get paid sometimes as low as 300 yen per hour. Try living on this shit pay in a jungle like tokyo. You have 10 youngsters living in one appartement, 2 or 3 people sleeping in one room. No wonder they have a suicide epidemic. Pointless work for pointless pay for a pointless life with no betterment in sight.
No.25737
>>25655>if you weaboos love japan so much you'd have the decency to stay out>if you weeaboosThis is a Japanese board….
No.25738
>>25736You didn't contradict anything I said. "Rise" referred exactly to numbers. People prepared to earn significantly less so that they get flexible work hours. Nowadays even the average salaryman isn't exactly "affluent middle class" anymore, and freeters are basically the modern proletariat. Since they get paid per day and can't save a single penny, skipping a day of work means immediate starvation mode. So I would say they're not that much more "free" than the salarymen. The only upside is that some days you can work a few hours less without fearing social repercussions (at least any more social repercussions than freeters already get).
No.25762
>>25736>Pointless work for pointless pay for a pointless lifeYou're implying that it's different elsewhere?
No.25824
>>25623I live in Tokyo. Housing is the most expensive in the country apart from central Kyoto. There's too many people, going outside can be asphyxiating. The only good thing is the concentration of store in Akihabara where I can get more or less anything I want with good variety, contrary to other places, but there is other places to get things anyway. I am actually moving to Nagoya in a couple months and then looking to move to a more rural area. Tokyo is not as nice as you think. Also, 9 to 5 jobs, which are 8 to 5 with a lunch break include unpaid overtime and early arrival. That means you arrive anywhere 30 minutes to 1 hour before work and it's rude to leave exactly when you finished, you end up spending 30minutes to 1 hour extra at the end of work too. Add commuting to that because to find affordable housing you have to live rather away from work. This means work can cost you up to 12 hours a day and it's mentally and physically taxing. Furthermore when there's workplace outings, given you work for a company or something, attending is theoretically not compulsory but it is compulsory because you don't want to be rude to your superior that pays for you. So you have to go out and get drunk with everybody from the workplace. And if you're like me and don't drink alcohol it's tough. Nevertheless, I still don't think it's a bad life, it's still decently enjoyable and stuff and safety everywhere in Japan is nice. Just don't kid yourself about it and think Tokyo is like heaven on earth or anything or else you'll be disappointed when you get here.
No.25826
>>25824When I read about japanese work culture, the unpaid overtime is what always puts my panties in a twist. I don't mind working extra but not for fucking free. Working for a foreign company seems like the only solution.
No.25827
>>25826You would think a respectful culture would respect their worker's time and effort.
I guess it's another case of respect up, not down.
No.25828
>>25826>>25827The idea is that you care for the company/ business and you show it by putting in the extra effort beyond your normal hours. There is jobs that allow you to leave exactly on time, it's usually in some contracts. There is also some companies that pay overtime, but the normal thing is to not get paid.
No.25829
>>25828Yes, and like I said, it's a case of showing the company you care but not that the company cares. It's a cultural sham.
No.25830
>>25829Company cares too. They help out during tough times, they actually make sure you don't overwork yourself too. If you look visibly exhausted/ unhealthy they will tell you to take it easy a bit. Another way they show they care is by paying for the company nights out. It's the "Look how much we care, we even buy you food and drink". Which would be great, if I was a bit more normal and could enjoy those things.
No.25831
>>25830Not to drag this back-and-forth on, but they don't really care if they've just got that one thing. That's like saying I care about bears by feeding them all meat, even though pandas are vegetarians.
Companies value time by paying wages. Not by buying one restaurant meal a week, which is probably worth only a fraction of the overtime put in.
No.25832
>>25830The free food and drink is hardly worth the free overtime in money, though. It just seems like a shrewd way of money milking the employees.
No.25834
>>25833Unfair representation. Shibuya isn't always that busy and you don't even have to go there for anything. I haven't been to Shibuya in months.
No.25835
>>25834The fact that it's crowded doesn't really mean anything by itself. In fact the atmosphere reminds me of Stockholm (used to live there). Sure, the population density and aesthetics are different but the calm temperament of the people, the orderliness and the cleanliness are exactly the same. People aren't pushing, bumping and smothering each other like they do in many other cultures. So the large amount of people on the street is actually less off-putting in reality than it seems in the video.
No.25837
>>25835>The fact that it's crowded doesn't really mean anything by itself.some people would prefer not seeing a horde of normals everywhere they go
No.25838
>>25837I don't have much experience with high population density areas. I've lived on the outskirts of a somewhat large city all my life, but mostly I just stay out.
One thing I am kinda familiar with, though, is 6th street here in Austin. Just because the nature of my work, I sometimes drive through it on a Saturday night, and let me tell you it's night and fucking day. The buildings are all chipped and dirty looking, the asphalt is all busted up, the bike chariots are all garish and festooned with all kinds of junk, there's trash everywhere, the hoard of normalfags are all obnoxious and yelling across the street at each other, there's horrible music blaring out of every open door, and just looking at half the people you can reasonably guess what they'd do to a person they met in a back alley.
You could not pay me to live in an enormous city, but I'd rather live in Tokyo, one of the largest cities in the world, than any American major city.
No.25862
>>25834You live in Japan? How?!
No.25863
>>25862If you come from the US or Britain there are lots of opportunities to be an English teacher. Just get some certificates and off you go. It's a pretty nasty life though and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone except the very adventurous. If you know Japanese and have a "real" professional skill, and/or a degree in some decent subject, you could get hired by a japanese company for stuff like overseas marketing.
>>25837The temperament of the horde makes a huge difference, you know. In a calm-spirited country they're just part of the scenery and you don't even have to think about them. In a not so calm-spirited country… well, this wiz nailed it
>>25838 No.26096
>>25830>free meal for unpaid workliterally the definition of ancient slavery.
you are a brainwashed slave.
modernism is controlled by mind programming, no need for forceful brutlity of the past.
makes things easier for Satan.
No.26098
>>25833I filmed that place 10 years ago, and later I saw that some rapper nignog got in the shot and ruined it.
No.26112
>>25705Given how socially rigid and eccentric Nips are, they are going to have a wave of troublesome foreigners and no economic growth to show afterwards. There's a good chance they will give the collective middle finger to Western preferences afterward.
No.29054
Japs will be wrecked soon, since global rules are easing for migration and Abe&diet themself allowing more and more to come.
No.29055
>>29054Just wait for the first beheadings and trucks of peace in Japan. Then everyone will ask "how can this happen?" and "How can Japan become more inclusive and multicultural?"
No.29057
>>25830Sounds like it could apply to a gulag. If you respect someone, you don't pretend he doesn't have a life outside of work.
No.29406
>>29400how is the no alcohol policy treating you wizzie?
No.29407
>>25623but its full of slant eyed japs
No.29412
>full of azn normies
>tokyo japan
Nigga wut
No.29426
>>29412"azn" is probably some current internet slang for "asian"
No.29429
>>29426>currentyou must be really young
No.29432
>>2942929
first seen it about a year or so ago
No.30142
>>30139nara deer place fucking sucks man. buses coming in shuttling people every few minutes. people walking everywhere. the deer suck too they arent interested unless you have food. i had more fun playing with god damn feral cats anywhere else than that shitty place
No.30152
>>30142even after the cat shat all over you?
No.30273
>>30142Deers eating out of your hand doesn't impress you?
No.30275
>>30273not when assloads of people are being shuttled in, when there is no privacy, and you can only feed the deer special cookies the obasans sell from stalls for extorted prices. they also will come up and grab shit pants and shit to harass you. don't have any food? they dont give a damn about you. it's a scam, fuck the deer. like i said, feral cats were way more fun and would eat anything you happened to have, you could also play with them
No.30391
I like that Tokyo has two tall towers. it's the best.
No.30395
>>25623Weeaboo idealisation
No.30693
The idea of staying up late playing vidya or watching animu, crammed in a small apartment as just one more body in a metropolis with 14 million residents does seem quite cozy and appealing to me, to be honest.
Given the otaku/hobbyist culture in Japan, it definitely seems like a great city to NEET in, especially in the context of what the wizzies
>>29056 and
>>29360 said.
No.30714
>>30142Miyjajima's deers are like pets though. You can pet them and they're cool.
>>29056Yesterday around 11pm I looked outside a window of my hostel near a bridge over a lake close to akihabara station and the street was completely empty.
Tokyo's overrated by Normans coming from some shitholes and spamming their social media with their stupid "observations" on the crowdiness of the city. They go to roppongi or some other night district and then spout generalising bullshit ""OMG Tokio is so busy during the night!!!,,. It's all an overhyped advertisement.
The thing about "gaijin spot" is bullshit too. (On a Tokyo local train)I once on purpose took the middle seat of an empty 3 person sitting space and 2 people sat beside me anyway.
>>29055Tokyo was the only place where I saw a kebab bar. It's also the only place where I saw so many muslims. In Asakusa especially, and ueno. Curry center. Some hostels there(and in sapporo) have "Muslim friendly" food or some shit.
No.30767
Good luck with the renting (wish me luck too pls).
Here's a great vid detailing the renting experience in Japan for foreigners. Just watch the whole damn thing. Here are the keypoints though.
https://youtu.be/iZ5f_QokinY8:12 The language barrier
10:10 Concerns about integrating into the community
- 14:50 Housing Support Centre for Foreigners
– 22:00 Chonaikai (Neighborhood associations)
23:00 Guarantors
25:15 [Conclusion] Why most foreigners have a hard time renting in Japan
28:48 Acquiring property is easier than renting (non surprisingly tbh)
No.33031
>>33028why would someone with long hair wear a beanie indoors?
No.33032
>>33031for FAGshion reasons.
No.33040
>>33028I wish there were small and cheap apartments like this in my country. Everything is built around families. It's like there has never been any thought of people living by themselves.
No.33602
It's literally impossible to move there unless you're a native English speaker or have some special skills.They won't let you in if you aren't useful to their
society
It would be too depressing to have to return to your shithole after the tourist visa expires
No.33603
The thing I hate about cities is the noise of close quartered living..but from what I have heard/seen/read the Japanese are conscientious when it comes to being an asshole disturbance to the people around you with noise and rudeness, even on public transportation, unlike in the west where being as loud as possible is a virtue to large chunks of the population. If this is more than a meme, it would be cool to visit and maybe stay indeed. What could actually quiet apartment life be like?
Is it true, anyone who has been there, that the Japanese as a society actually frown upon loud asshole behavior?
No.34039
Take me back to TO-KY-Oooooo
https://matcha-jp.com/en/ramen/1448Mmmm… ICHIRAN RAMEN
No.34044
they'll let you in, but they'll move you to some countryside boondocks so they can get the locals there to not be racist.
No.34046
>>33603what surprised me the most when i went to tokyo years ago is how calm it was despite being a big city. maybe its not the case if you live there tho, can someone confirm?
No.34069
>>34046I was there last year and didn't felt like that with Tokyo, but Kyoto did feel oddly calm despite being so big and touristy
No.34070
>>34069Yeah tokyo didn't really seem calm to me either. Lots of loud ads blaring their slogans. Though it becomes dead silent the moment you get outside the town centers.
No.34207
Souffle omelette?!?
>>33040True dat
No.34241
>>25634Tokyo has a surprising ammount of green areas tbh
No.37049
Cities are cancer. Tokyo and 80% of Japan is just the shitty tourist trap of the world at this point. It's every normalfag's foreign paradise.
No.37051
>>37049You hate everything though so your opinion doesn't matter.
No.37088
>>37051>your opinion doesn't matterBack to 4cunt
No.40573
>>25623to live in tokyo you have to be a meganormalfag
so Tokey=worst city ever
No.40608
tokyo is now full of tourists, nippon has fallen