I can't find the scenes, but what always moved me was the scene from Gunslinger succubus where Claes slaps Angelica, making Angelica's deterioration after that much more dramatic.
I also enjoyed Elsa de Sica story. Probably the only anime I'd recommend to people who don't like anime. It's like the Godfather meets Lolita, with a Ghost in the Shell premise with drama instead of philosophy.
It's told with typical girlish animation that anime typically displays with young succubi, but with classical music. Plus its very low key all the way through, with no Mary Sues or over the top power. Season 1 is fantastic and works as its own story, but Season 2 looks like dog shit.
I don't quite know why, but this has always ended up remaining as a powerful scene for me. Maybe it is because the whole thing is like some beautiful dream.
Have you ever had a dream where everything is a blur except for a few things? A dream where you're stumbling around an expansive and beautiful town, but all you can remember when you wake up is–in picture perfect clarity–a single picture. A single sentence. A single feeling. Maybe this is why I'm immediately hooked at the beginning. A single picture of a burning cigarette in a quality that remains in stark contrast to the rest of the episode (especially when it's followed up by the poorly animated car driving across the bridge–something that ends up working in this scene's favor, in my opinion). A brand that doesn't exist (Never Knows Best), and is in fact more likely to have been written on the cigarette by Mamimi herself. A small, whistful expression of a cry for help written in felt-tip on the edge of a cigarette. Or, perhaps, more like a motto that Mamimi has found herself living by. Like the picture-perfect clarity of the cigarette sanding in stark contrast to the outlying artistic detail invoke aspects of a dream-like state, the varied interpretations of the simple scrawling on the cigarette invoke aspects of the varied interpretations of our dreams.
Naota's responses, a call back to reality and an explanation of the world around them, are so trenchantly plain and fastidious. Whereas all of Mamimi's are vague, tenuous, fibrous, multi-faceted. When she replies that "It's hard" was she talking about the break-up, or the bread? When Naota gives an interpretation to clarify, she ignores him and rambles off into a wonderful poem (and is there any other way to interpret it other than a poem?).
Or a panda with a mean face
Or sandals with the pressure point drawn on them
Or the smell of a blackboard eraser
Or a Sunday morning when you wake up and it's raining
Oh well, I like him more than hard bread"
Again, like everything else in a dream, is an answer that is never direct. An answer that waivers like any dream would. Yet, they all seem to represent the things that do not satisfy our expectations of their perfections. As if Naota were representing (somewhat ironically, given the typical interpretation of him being the "kid" character in what has been labeled as a bildingungsroman story) the completely rationalistic ego, and Mamimi the cerebral id. Yet, without giving a single coherent argument, I can't help but feel that Mamimi is "right" in whatever it is that she happens to be "saying". As if it were a reprisal for the glimpses of "rationality" that lurk within the id. An apology for the cerebral.
And that music in the background, "Bran New Lovesong". When fitted against this little vignette, it feels just like Vangelis' music in Blade Runner. As if another meaning would be its noir-like qualities. Or as if it were some very subtle reference to Roy Batty's final words.
But every time I finish seeing this, all I see in my mind is so little of the entire scene. The rest–Mamimi brushing off her skirt as she stands up, all of Naota's words and reactions, that badly animated car driving by, the desparate lonely ear-nibbling nuzzle, the nervous shuffling with a bag of bread, and all the other details–they are all washed away "like tears in the rain".
Like a dream I end up "waking up" from this scene with: the picture of a drooping cigarette, the words of a poem, and a melancholic song in my heart.
Your post made me finally watch YKK. Thank you.
>>34032>everyone dies>shinji refuses to be their saviour>Kaiji cannot save neither asuka nor misato
this show could have ended with a happy end like the 28 days later film
but instead anno had to make it the jus b urself brah ending
Rejoice, for you have been filtered.
happy ending would be if Shinji didn't cancel the instrumentality
Eva endures as a show because it's a mythic modern male coming of age. Shinji, at the end of episode 26 where he gets the CONGRATULATIONS confused me for a long time, but it's just him realizing he needs to take control of his life instead of letting the world dictate his existence.
Every character in that show is a reflection of his own frustration with other people. Asuka is the succubus he doesn't feel good enough for, Rei/Misato are both his mother, Gendo literally his father, Kaiji the male competitor/also father.
Asuka in End of Eva literally can't win. This is Shinji's universe, she's a reflection of his aggressiveness towards the world, her character exists to burn out.
And this is why you had that infamous scene where Shinji faps over Asuka's body- he's literally trying to play the aggressive part at that point. People remember all these scenes because the story was told from Shinji's point of view.
There's no 'just be yourself' in this story, Shinji is already himself, already a weak lowly socialized helpless teenager. Because that mirrors the reality of being a modern teenage boy so accurately, the story endures.
you put it in better words than I ever could
no, the happy ending would have been if everyone died.
in 28 days later the zombies won. the world has ended and the remaining humans are outnumbered by the zombies 1000:1 and have no realistic chance of normality ever coming back. They spend their days in permanent paranoia that somewhere might be a zombie lurking.
in evangelion they just rebooted the system and asuka is already pissed off to be stranded with emoboi of all things>>34345>every character is a facette of shinjis frustrations
but what about kaworuis he his latent homosexual side? just kidding
>there is no 'just be yourself'
I meant that scene where katsuragi tells him to man up and go fight or something like this
it was in the video even. I don't know what he did after that cause I watched this an eternity ago and hated it.
Maybe my expectations were too high after all the hype and all I read.
But thank you for your explanations.
What you wrote here really does make sense a lot and I feel like I understand it better now.=================
On a side note.
Have you ever noticed how common that >fantasy world where everyone is happy and lives in a bubble far away from all the worldy bad things
trope is in anime? Did evangelion start this trend maybe?
Apparently, this pheonemon is called>Assimilation plot
I remember Naruto had a similar idea being pursued by the eternal #2 Madara.
Some frustrated guy wants to build a fantasy world and capture everyone inside it for their own well being.
IIRC Some megalomaniac in Code Geass had something like this.
The military Junta in Fullmetal Alchemist had something similar too.
However, this is not the interesting thing. More interesting is why this plot, driven by some sore loser character is usually occuring in media that are consumed mostly by this very same demographic. It is like the anime studios are trying to tell neets to norm up already.
It is like Anno started this trend to openly spit into the faces of his very most die-hard fans and others found let's just do the same.
Has anyone ever thought about this?
If you want a real answer for kaworu, he's the good that people want to see in others. He treats shinji with kindness and always knew what to say, but for shinji to advance and learn to control his life, he had to kill him. It makes him a more cynical person, but also independent.
You forgot about the ironic and political sides:
Nerv beats all these giant monsters but they lose to a well trained human army with machine guns.
Even if Seele didn't have the New Eva Series, they already won since NERV HQ was destroyed and most of the team of people who fix the Evas were dead. Constant guerilla attacks would wear Nerv down until the Evas lost power and then they'd invade.
I haven't seen 28days for a long time, but the protagonist isn't responsible for the ending I think? (except he threw away the cure or something)
While in End of Eva Shinji would be solely the one to trigger it, who knows how many would have offed themselves if it ended like that, also by the time End of Eva was released in Japan, it already was wildly popular so I guess there was pressure from different sites to end it on at least an open way, in the movie there is this picture shown for a brief moment, but also some death threats/thank you letters
In the end it's how you interpret the whole thing, the world already became a red desert, everybody turned into goo, and it depends on every individual if they prefer to crawl back into such a reality, so I'd say that this end is almost as cruel as a zombie-apocalypse where the protag could do nothing to prevent it in the first place.
I mean Shinji doesn't seem too happy at the end after all, the first thing he does after deciding to become individual again is trying to strangle Asuka? maybe he didn't know what the world already became and regretted his decision
also i saw somewhere else mentioning the whole fantasy world with no problems prominent in anime could stem from Gnosticism, especially eva which is influenced by christianity (even if Anno jokes about just putting it in there because it's "cool", the symbolism is there)
>>34351>strangle asuka>save the world from disaster just so you get your revenge to the bitch that annoyed the living shit out of you for months
doesn't she say something like "I feel like vomiting" or something at that scene?
>stem from gnosticism, christianity
it is interesting how japanese are fascinated by the christain concepts and the westerners are often fascinated by asian concepts like shinto or buddhism.
the first movie was great
the sequel was trash and it does not exist in my brain anymore.
the protag wakes up from coma 28 days after the zombie apocalypse happens, finds a group of survivors and then travels around in hope to find other survivors. But the entire country is full of zombies and there is no hope that normality can ever be restored as everything is abandonned or rotting away already. there never was a cure.
>>34345>take control of his life instead of letting the world dictate his existence
This is such a childish illusion that normalfags typically love to indulge in and wax poetic about.
The world dictates your existence period.
think she says "Disgusting" in japanese, haven't seen the english dub. There was a quote I believe from her voice actor where she was asked to express her feelings if she found out that someone had the opportunity to rape her, but only stood there and masturbated, or something>>34401
don't know what to believe, you can argue either way because there is no definitive proof, successful people will say it's their own achievment, while losers usually blame cirumstances, bad genes or whatever, in the end the reasons don't matter, it's how we react to them, because we have to live anyway until the end, maybe that's what he ment with taking control of his life
>evafags are most pretentious fags ever
which anime is this Eva character from?
Eva is such a blessing to the world
The graffiti to the left of the box says ”レイプマン” or "rape-man"
the graffiti on the blue box says 死 or "die". Wut?
looks like it says 碇レイプマン or "Ikari Rapeman" though i don't get the insult, maybe the implication comes from Gendo and his wife-clones
btw the new trailer came out for the latest movie, looks like it will air on 23.1. finally
I didn't know that kanji, or most kanji for that matter. Also, imagine being so triggered by an animus ending that you decide to vandalize it and one of the only insults you can come up with are "Ikari Rapeman"
Too bad if fell victim to licensing slap fights and there will never be a proper conclusion or season 3.
It also had "sex" written on the wall. They probably wanted to vandalize something anyway and thought it would be funny.
It might have something to do with Shinji cumming over azuka.
The part in the sequel where Alpha just roams around on her bike is great
Yes. It is a harmful illusion, but very few people see through it and it is ubiquitous through modern culture. Some buddhists and other isolated figures do see through it
>>37470>Big-O came out 5 years after NGE. That surprised me
Believe it or not this is the only thing many people know about Big-O. After the finale aired many viewers were pissed off about the gobbledygook ending, they felt they got "Evangelion'd." The surge of arguments about it was noticed by the rest of the community, and that's the one thing they remember it for.
For me, it's the "hear the voice of the world" scene from episode 16 of Star Driver. I find it to be very enigmatic and moving, a beautiful expression of life.