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 No.38278

Want to start learning Japanese?
Here's some useful links to help you out.

-http://realkana.com/ (tool to learn the kana)
-http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar (Tae Kim's grammar guide)
-http://pastebin.com/kXqhRbWi (setting up Anki)
-http://jisho.org/ (Japanese-English dictionary)
-http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/ - (Actual Japanese dictionary for rare words and alternate definitions)
-https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/yomichan/ (Popup dictionary definitions when you hover over a word, Chrome version is called yomichan)

みんなさん、がんばって!

Last threads:
>>28755
https://wizchan.org/jp/archive/res/25255.html
https://wizchan.org/jp/archive/res/19661.html

 No.38289

how long would you need to study japanese to reasonably navigate around tokyo or other big cities in japan on your own? I want to go but I'm no good beyond basic communication skills and I'm not really comfortable being illiterate and lost

 No.38290

>>38289
The big cities are actually quite english friendly and at any train station or hotel you could find an attendant who speaks english. Signs and announcements as well usually alternate between a japanese and english version.

To actually answer how much you should know, I would recommend focusing on vocabulary and kanji and stick to basic grammar. I found it was more important to know what words people were saying rather than the relation between them. And kanji is very necessary because most signs are written in kanji, and unless you are reading something written for kids it will not have the furigana above it. Also many names, especially that of places, are kanji and many are just expected to be known by even little kids just because they are ubiquitous (words like come and go).

 No.38291

>>38290
how often do people use non-jouyou kanji in real life or on signs/shops?

 No.38328

https://easyjapanese.net/
I found this website, it has a lot of features to help you read simple news I think a bit better than NHKeasy, I'm at 4 months studying and slowly getting through these articles. I don't ever really read news so everything is pretty new to me. I find it easier to just read the sentences and not try to interpret them to english, rather it's easier to just accept that the point was gotten to me and I don't need to know what it would be in english

 No.38337

https://learnjapanese.moe/resources/

a lot of useful links here

 No.38440

>>38337
これはすごく便利なリンクだよ。シェアしてありがとう。アニメじゃない映画とドラマとかを見たいけど、どこで見るか分からなかった。でも、アノんのおかげで、今いいリンクを見つけた。

 No.38491

>Moe cancer threads thriving
>Actual Japanese learning thread is dead
Adds up for this crowd

 No.38492

>>38491
>this crowd
What do you mean?

 No.38493

>>38491
Yes, we are all normalfag ironic weebs here. Leave.

 No.38494

>>38440
ありがとうございます。日本語を何時から勉強した。僕はあの文らが中々難しくないんです。

 No.38495

>>38491
>Moe cancer
Whatever do you mean?

 No.38496

PC is fucking dead, is there any way I can learn on my android phone for the next few days? I'm a beginner so I can't read most stuff without yomichan, since I don't know the kanji

 No.38497


 No.38499

>>38494
>日本語を何時から勉強した
2年間勉強していると思う。大学で勉強してる。一人で日本語を学べないんだw。

>僕はあの文らが中々難しくないんです

いいぞ!勉強しつづけて、アノン!

 No.38820

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i wish i weren't mentally handicapped. i would have learned japanese by now

 No.38821

>>38820
im mentally handicapped too, im slowly learning though

 No.38822

hello how are every one today ?

 No.38977

anyone interested in learning still? I'm growing slowly, don't mind explaining some grammar even though I'm still kinda low

 No.38982

>>38822
寝る間に死にたいです

 No.39085

I feel like I'll never learn japanese fluently, I've been studying for 9 months and I'm at like a baby level, I could probably ask for directions or ask for food/water and tell people if I understand them or not, and maybe ask for stuff at the grocery

 No.39125

>>39085
9 months is not a very long time in the context of language learning, especially if your native language is linguistically distant (e.g.: English-Japanese). So keep it up!

 No.39175

>>39174
>>39174
why so mean

 No.39176

>>39174
why post that in this of all threads, it's one of the few where people are actually doing something constructive

 No.39178

>>39176
It's two years old and nobody has anything to show for it. The entire board is doomed crabs who failed to learn Japanese and obliterate their dopamine wiring from watching little anime succubi. It's quite possibly the most unproductive thread on the internet.

 No.39179

>>39178
nah I've learn tons of japanese since the original thread

 No.39180

>>39179
Since 2016? Big whoop. It doesn't show and a few outliers doesn't make up for the overall inefficiencies compared to pro classes. This is one of the biggest chans so there's no real excuse.

 No.39182

>>39180
maybe people just don't post about it

 No.39184

>>39182
Why are you even replying? What's the purpose of his posts in the first place? Just let him crawl back to whatever hole he came out of.

 No.39237

Just finished reading Utawarerumono. I remember being a lot more into Touka in the anime. I wonder if she stepped up her VA game in between them. Now I've got like 5 days to make it though part 2 before the anime for 3 starts…

 No.39239

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>>39237
That was a good read wasn't it? At least I remember being decent enough to binge read the whole thing in a few days. I'm reading a lot of self-published vns lately and writing my impressions of them in another ib. I don't care about wizchan anymore and this thread in particular, despite being the OP for most of them since 2016. It's nice to finally see at least one cultured anon still hanging around here though, even made me respond. I spent this afternoon reading METORY btw, I think I'm getting close to the end now. There's a sort of creative chaos in free Japanese VNs that I really enjoy. じゃ、愚痴愚痴止めて方が良いですよね。偽りの仮面お楽しみください。さよなら、ウィザードさん。

 No.39240

>>39239
Yeah. I was actually expecting a little more to be honest, I quite liked the anime, and adaptations are usually so-so, I find. Guess they did a really good job with it, managed to fit most of it in there, too. I don't mean it as a complaint, I had a good time with it, don't think I ever felt disappointed, it just made me respect the work they put into the anime that much more.
The gameplay was actually fun, basic as it was. Had a bit of a giggle seeing them talk up Genjimaru that much while Oboro (made him my striker since he was so fast, literally every point in damage/tech) was just tearing through like half the field on his own without giving enough time for the rest of the gang to get into a proper formation. Pretty nice mix of units in the game, too.
>It's nice to finally see at least one cultured anon still hanging around here though, even made me respond.
I'm not much for these kinds of general hangout threads, but I do lurk.

And thanks. I'm really looking forward to it. Always liked the characters there a lot better. Actually found Hakuoro to be outright annoying at times in the anime what with all the angst and moping and the VA literally moaning all the time. Haku always felt like a pretty direct response and foil to Hakuoro to me, and I like that. He's just a good time.

Sounds interesting, doing a deep delve like that. It's always fun when you find a new genre or something and go to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. I'm in the exact opposite phase here, just skimming the surface of the medium, seeing what I like. Think I broke my streak of never having read anything but works that already have translations like two months ago.
>There's a sort of creative chaos in free Japanese VNs that I really enjoy.
I can't really speak for VNs, obviously, but I've found the same with anime/manga and a few other things. The less people involved in making something, the more… pure, for lack of a better word, an experience it tends to be. Weirder, more unique, raw… I like that. My favourites are rarely what I would call the best made, or most polished. It's that weird, unique stuff. The things you don't find anywhere else. It really can't be overstated how blessed they are with their doujin culture.

 No.39241

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>>39240
>The less people involved in making something, the more… pure, for lack of a better word, an experience it tends to be. Weirder, more unique, raw… I like that.
Not that anon, but I relate to this heavily. One of my favourite VNs - see pic - is pretty much this, you can tell the writer just basically did whatever they wanted, unrestricted, and considered how long-winded it got at parts, probably minimally edited. Made for a brilliant and hugely immersive experience with very unique and deep worldbuilding.

I wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone who is at a bit more advanced stage of learning Japanese.

 No.39402

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I'm about to start grade 3 Kanji. It's becoming easier now I know what the Kanji radicals mean. They're like hieroglyph pictures. And if there's a 2nd radical it usually tells you the way to say the kanji. For instance 五 "go" = 5. 言 "i/koto/gen" = say. Now 日本 (nihon/nippon) = japan + 語 (go = language) = 日本語 "nihongo" Japanese language.

See 言 is made up of 口 (mouth) with lines that look like sound waves coming out on top. 五 (five) has nothing to do with language but it's just in 語 as a radical to indicate the sound "go" as you read it.

It all comes together once you grasp the meaning of the radicals.

Attaching the printable files for grade 4 Kanji cards. The site link for all other grades is at the bottom of each pages.

 No.39415

I tried taking the JLPT for the very first time this July, and managed to pass N1.
Just did it for fun, since it's very cheap to do so in my country, don't actually need it for anything. Wasn't as hard as I expected honestly, though listening felt especially tough at the time.

 No.39457

>>39415
Do you mind going more into detail? What was it like? I'm planning to enter into the next JLPT and try N1, I probably don't have to worry about failing since there's still a long time until then, but this'll be my first time taking JLPT so I might just be getting cocky.

 No.39464

>>39457
The only actual practice I did was the question sampler on https://www.jlpt.jp/
You just need good time management really since it's kinda tight, 110 minutes for vocab, grammar, and reading, no breaks, so if you're stuck on a question you have to move on.
Listening I probably should have practised as I had no idea what structure the exercises would follow, and in N1 they only play the audio once it is not easy. I was not prepared at all for some of the problems having no text at all on the page and the question and answer list is audio only, played once. Thankfully I still got 40/60 pts in the listening section somehow.

 No.39479

>>39464
I see. I'm glad there's no autistic training regimen needed to pass it. Reading sounds like a bitch and listening too, especially with how you can only listen once. I guess I should be glad that I've recently set my focus on listening practice and already have some decent results. I should probably get to dealing with my 2000 dues though, there were a few words I didn't know in the N1 sampler.

 No.39639

ENGLISH IS ALL WHAT YOU NEED

 No.39644

>>39639
It’s not about need.

 No.39645

>>39639
You sound like you need more English tomodachi.

 No.39647

>>39639
If I start cussing in English in real life, a decent chunk of people will understand and be displeased with me. If I start cussing in Japanese in real life, nobody will understand and thus will not be displeased with me even though I'm cussing as hard as possible. That alone is reason enough to suppose that Japanese is superior and that I should learn it.

 No.39950

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Any goals for 2023?

 No.39963

http://www.kanjidamage.com/
Found this the other day, feels like I'm actually making progress.

 No.40057

>>39950
Read a book on Japanese history, all in Japanese. Shouldn't be that far away for me.
>>39963
Why not anki instead?

 No.40058

I am sort of stuck at a certain stage in learning japanese, I can get an idea of what a japanese person is talking about with a little context if I don't know the words exactly, I can get through say a japanese food review or something similarly casual in japanese and not have too much of an issue. I think my biggest problem is lack of vocabulary



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