No.43418
Made in Japan with anime style - anime
Made in China/Korea/West with anime style - cartoon
simple as
No.43419
>Give me your best argument for and against this
The word "Anime" is used to specifically refer to Japanese animation made by Japanese people in Japan, because that's just how the word is used. There's no need to explain the semantics or etymological background of the word, nor is there a need to justify and defend a word's meaning having exclusionary implications.
No.43420
>>43419But the actual usage says different you have news outlets and mainstream media calling non Japanese anime anime.
No.43421
>>43420they use it wrong then
No.43422
Is a western-style cartoon made in Japan still anime?
No.43423
This is like those faggy EU regional product trademark bullshit where they will only recognize cheese produced in a specific italian village to be real faggioni or something and if someone wants to make cheese with the exact same method in the US for example, he will have to use a different name even if you can't tell the results apart. I personally don't care. Language is just a tool for communication. If the person I am talking to consider rwby anime I will also consider it anime for the duration of the conversation so we share the same vocabulary and avoid confusion. If I am talking to a japanese animation purists then I will adapt the meaning again. It's just a word.
No.43425
What is even the point of arguing this nonsense?
Why muddy the water of a already established term to intentionally make it meaningless?
No.43426
In English, "Anime" is animation by Japanese people in Japan.
In Japanese, "アニメ" is any animation regardless of origin.
No.43443
>>43425>Why muddy the water of a already established term to intentionally make it meaningless?It's the esteem. Anime holds a higher reputation and commands more respect as a medium than Western or Chinese animation. Those who are fans of the latter feel that their cartoons should be revered, so they call their trash animation "anime" to heighten opinions of it. These newfags think that if a cartoon wears a face similar to an anime, sounds like an anime, and calls
itself an anime, then it must be one because it's then probably not total dogshit like cartoons or Chinoons are. They can only think in feels instead of reals.
No.43464
>>43443>Anime holds a higher reputation and commands more respect as a medium than Western or Chinese animation.LOL WAT?
Now I know you're just bandwagoning.
No.43466
>>43464Any argument for the contrary? Are cartoons and chinkscribbles revered more than anime?
No.43468
>>43417Made by a Japanese team. Now there can be anime inspired of anything else but only the japanese can make anime itself since it's Japanese animation.
No.43469
>>43466It depends on what the anime is really. Ghibli and other I suppose cinematic anime i can see the argument but lower tier anime especially ones tailored for escapism for male fantasy… Yeah that's dunked on hard even by other weebs. So technically you are both right and wrong.
No.43471
>>43470Yes. Weebs. Weebs weebs weebs ya old shit.
No.43472
>>43471What you said doesn't hold up regardless of how much you tried to appeal to retards by using niggerized '
shortened for the sake of shortened terms' language. Male fantasy isn't "dunked on hard" by any group - certainly not by the majority. There's no "lower tier" anime in spite of what you might have seen one of your faggy Twitch e-celeb's tier list videos. You implied anime isn't considered a more refined medium than cartoons and then you moved the goalpost to "well, depends on the genre of anime". So now you're going to be asked again: which cartoons from the West are considered better than anime? Which genre?
No.43474
>>43472Male fantasy isn't dunked on but yet we had two decades of our entertainment and 'gaze' gradually demonized and sanitized until it was all unrecognizable and fake. That many of us ran to foreign media just to get our fill and now payment processors are looking to kill that by refusing service to japanese erotica bit by bit and interfering with the in-house process that studios may have to censor themselves just to get paid because of the strangle hold these processors have.
A foreign medium is getting it's balls snipped for discourse countries away. But yes. There is no bias against male sexuality. IS THERE?
No.43476
>>43466Maybe because you're young you don't remember when anime was associated with three things, childishness foremost, and then sex and violence in the juvenile sense.
No.43477
>>43476Ah OK, so the argument is just "You're a zoomer, you're too young to get it".
No.43481
>>43477Are you retarded? If you weren't alive at the time why would you know what the situation was before?
No.43484
Anime = japan
That's it, maybe just maybe anime could be considered made by korean and china man, because they close culturally to Japan.
No.43485
>>43484>because they close culturally to Japan.Japan is not at all culturally close to Korea and China, you narrow-minded ESL.
No.43486
>>43485That's only something a weeaboo or a Jap would say. Japan are culturally closer to them than any other country and from a normie non-weeb foreign perspective they are part of the same autistic, collectivist slant eye cultural sphere with the funny traditional roofs and colorful robes.
No.43489
>>43486>from a normie non-weeb foreign perspective they are part of the same autistic, collectivist slant eye cultural sphere with the funny traditional roofs and colorful robes.Glad we agree that it is a stupid opinion that only someone who doesn't know what the word "culture" means.