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I know a guy in his 30s that only had sex with 1 succubi and kissed like 3 succubi in his life, can he be considered a "honorary" wizard or wizard "adjacent"? I think that are a lot of man out there with little sexual experience, not actual virgin like us, but borderline like us in behavior and all, how can we go to treat those fellas? I'm very sympathetic to those guys, I think there are almost like us in way.
>>206648
I feel that when people get hung up over strict definitions, it's often an indication of personal insecurity and a desire to be the one that excludes others for a change, instead of being the one who is excluded.
I feel that when people get hung up over strict definitions, it's often an indication of personal insecurity and a desire to be the one that excludes others for a change, instead of being the one who is excluded.
There are a lot of labels tnat may or may no apply to a loser:
-Outcast
-Shut-in
-NEET
-Virgin
-Autist
-Crab
-Failed normalfag
A wizard is estrictly a male virgin over 30 years old. You can be an autistic shut-in NEET but not a virgin and therefore you won't belong here. Why do you care so much to be seen as an equal? Why can't we have a website for male virgins only? I don't go to 420chan because I don't do drugs. I don't go to soyjakwhatever bevause I'm not a retard. If you are not a male virgin you don't belong here. So tell your "friend" to fuck off.
-Outcast
-Shut-in
-NEET
-Virgin
-Autist
-Crab
-Failed normalfag
A wizard is estrictly a male virgin over 30 years old. You can be an autistic shut-in NEET but not a virgin and therefore you won't belong here. Why do you care so much to be seen as an equal? Why can't we have a website for male virgins only? I don't go to 420chan because I don't do drugs. I don't go to soyjakwhatever bevause I'm not a retard. If you are not a male virgin you don't belong here. So tell your "friend" to fuck off.
If he's a male who had sexual experiences, he's not a wizard. It doesn't matter how dorky or friendless or good he is at Turtle WoW; he's neither a wizard or apprentice. No "honorary virgin" men, no "honorary virgin" succubi.
>>206656
It was much better. We used to have posts like ">wizchan 2018" and replies like "wizardchan 2020". nowadays all anyone says is "wizchan 2023". even ">wizchan in the year of our lord 2,022" was better than this 2023 shit.
It was much better. We used to have posts like ">wizchan 2018" and replies like "wizardchan 2020". nowadays all anyone says is "wizchan 2023". even ">wizchan in the year of our lord 2,022" was better than this 2023 shit.
no but it doesn't really matter unless he is breaking the rules on this website by disclosing such things about himself
it's just one or two pussies, what's the big deal. any man that hasn't gotten it in the last 6 months is basically a born again virgin. if they want to call themselves a wizard, i'm fine with it. more people to join in on scramble night haha
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>>206665
Kill yourself.
Kill yourself.
>>206673
Psychotic normies are always to be expected to be hiding in almost every area of your daily life. Or else
Psychotic normies are always to be expected to be hiding in almost every area of your daily life. Or else
>>206648
>not actual virgin
you're not a virgin if nobody wants sex with you. if nobody wants sex with you, you are a reject.
>not actual virgin
you're not a virgin if nobody wants sex with you. if nobody wants sex with you, you are a reject.
If they decide afterwards to reject sex and embrace the wizlife then we should respect them but otherwise no
Personally I feel closer to Tempcels than crabs. Temporary volcels. Who don't have sex until marriage. They know what its like to feel temptation but to stick to their principles and morals. Some of them are the biggest chads in the world like Tim Tebow yet they CHOOSE to be virgins.
>>206661
I'm always grateful for the recordkeeping wizzies reminding me what year we're in. If only they would add month and day..
I'm always grateful for the recordkeeping wizzies reminding me what year we're in. If only they would add month and day..
>>206699
We're about 5-10 years away from treatment resistant STDs being widespread, they're just rearing up now. I think we're likely entering the end of this casual sex era that's existed since the 1960s.
AIDs really knocked back the homosexuals for two decades until suppressive drugs allowed them to resume their debauchery.
We're about 5-10 years away from treatment resistant STDs being widespread, they're just rearing up now. I think we're likely entering the end of this casual sex era that's existed since the 1960s.
AIDs really knocked back the homosexuals for two decades until suppressive drugs allowed them to resume their debauchery.
>>206713
no wiz is going to suffer from it anyway, so why bother? also, normies might still come up with new medicines.
no wiz is going to suffer from it anyway, so why bother? also, normies might still come up with new medicines.
>>206774
The fuck is there to bump retard? I'm over 30, have never kissed a single female or had any sexual interactions with one. If this doesn't apply to you, you aren't a wizard.
The fuck is there to bump retard? I'm over 30, have never kissed a single female or had any sexual interactions with one. If this doesn't apply to you, you aren't a wizard.
>>206656
There was an Era where every kept posting this fat guy spanking people and typing BUTTHURT
To this day I have no idea who the hell the fat guy was
There was an Era where every kept posting this fat guy spanking people and typing BUTTHURT
To this day I have no idea who the hell the fat guy was
>>206699
They're much more respectable people, but I don't exactly feel close to them. Maybe if they made it to 30 first, but most of them are dating from their teens and get married long before wizardhood. It's total normalfaggotry, it's just not degenerate sluttery.
The only exception I'd make is if you were tied down against your will and raped.
They're much more respectable people, but I don't exactly feel close to them. Maybe if they made it to 30 first, but most of them are dating from their teens and get married long before wizardhood. It's total normalfaggotry, it's just not degenerate sluttery.
The only exception I'd make is if you were tied down against your will and raped.
>>206779
He was a gay porn actor called Daddy Howard. Wizchan was always ran by homosexuals.
He was a gay porn actor called Daddy Howard. Wizchan was always ran by homosexuals.
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>>206779
It's a 4chon.net meme, he's just some gay porn actor. It's forgotten lore, but the kernel of wizchan actually came from a 4chon /r9k/ thread in which someone suggested a version of /r9k/ but no succubi and no discussion of sex allowed. About a month later the original wizardchan was created and linked from there.
It's bizarre how influential 4chon was to modern imageboard culture, when it was the most unhinged and schizophrenic imageboard.
It's a 4chon.net meme, he's just some gay porn actor. It's forgotten lore, but the kernel of wizchan actually came from a 4chon /r9k/ thread in which someone suggested a version of /r9k/ but no succubi and no discussion of sex allowed. About a month later the original wizardchan was created and linked from there.
It's bizarre how influential 4chon was to modern imageboard culture, when it was the most unhinged and schizophrenic imageboard.
>>206802
8chan and arguably 4chan /pol/, the creator of 4chon wrote the tinyboard software that 8chan runs/ran on.
Although in retrospect 4chan /pol/ was always going to become what it is.
8chan and arguably 4chan /pol/, the creator of 4chon wrote the tinyboard software that 8chan runs/ran on.
Although in retrospect 4chan /pol/ was always going to become what it is.
>>206809
No I wouldn't really give them credit for pol, as pol already existed, and 4chon spunoff from pol for not being nazi enough. it has the causality backwards.
No I wouldn't really give them credit for pol, as pol already existed, and 4chon spunoff from pol for not being nazi enough. it has the causality backwards.
>>206811
>as pol already existed, and 4chon spunoff from pol for not being nazi enough.
4chon was literally created because /r9k/ and /new/ were deleted by Moot.
>as pol already existed, and 4chon spunoff from pol for not being nazi enough.
4chon was literally created because /r9k/ and /new/ were deleted by Moot.
>>206819
even so the original /new/ was de facto already /pol/. I wouldn't say 4chon created pol. it was like a pol refuge from 4chan during that period.
even so the original /new/ was de facto already /pol/. I wouldn't say 4chon created pol. it was like a pol refuge from 4chan during that period.
>>206648
>can he be considered a "honorary" wizard or wizard "adjacent"
Being a wizard is a mindset. Basically being a volcel and not giving a fuck about succubi. If you have that mindset (plus valuing isolation and more wizard shit) but you're actually not a virgin, I'd say you're free to lurk.
>can he be considered a "honorary" wizard or wizard "adjacent"
Being a wizard is a mindset. Basically being a volcel and not giving a fuck about succubi. If you have that mindset (plus valuing isolation and more wizard shit) but you're actually not a virgin, I'd say you're free to lurk.
>>206648
having sex = being validated by the social behemoth who runs modern society (aka females) = not being a reject = not being a wizard.
Now, piss off.
having sex = being validated by the social behemoth who runs modern society (aka females) = not being a reject = not being a wizard.
Now, piss off.
>>206832
>modern society (aka females)
While I generally agree with you this specific statement sounds silly.
>modern society (aka females)
While I generally agree with you this specific statement sounds silly.
i don't mind as long as it's not a current sex haver
better than current state of wizchan with hookercels that talk about it on wizcord voice chat on Fridays/Saturday
better than current state of wizchan with hookercels that talk about it on wizcord voice chat on Fridays/Saturday
>>206782
Yeah tempcels aren't us. But they are closer to the Wizard ethos, than failed normies. Not every loser is a wizard. Saying no to sex, even for a few years, when the world is telling you its the greatest thing in the world is more wiz than what OP speaks of.
Yeah tempcels aren't us. But they are closer to the Wizard ethos, than failed normies. Not every loser is a wizard. Saying no to sex, even for a few years, when the world is telling you its the greatest thing in the world is more wiz than what OP speaks of.
>>206844
this site is doomed to be raided constantly by chadlite larpers sitting all day in wizcord voice chat, whoever isn't there should at least know this
this site is doomed to be raided constantly by chadlite larpers sitting all day in wizcord voice chat, whoever isn't there should at least know this
>>206847
i heard you, thanks. don't bother with >>206848-like butthurted asses pretending they are not faggots
i heard you, thanks. don't bother with >>206848-like butthurted asses pretending they are not faggots
>>206648
a crab would get defensive and vehemently claim that anyone who has sex is a normalfaggotdoublenigger period. Because crabs think sex is some holy grail that will transform their life when in reality sex can range from being no better than masterbaition to ecstacy.
if he's a wizard 100% of the time outside those randome occurances then i'd say yes he can be a wizard.
a crab would get defensive and vehemently claim that anyone who has sex is a normalfaggotdoublenigger period. Because crabs think sex is some holy grail that will transform their life when in reality sex can range from being no better than masterbaition to ecstacy.
if he's a wizard 100% of the time outside those randome occurances then i'd say yes he can be a wizard.
>>208334
>if a person has sex he can still be a wizard because of this nonargument against crabs that has nothing to do with the definition of wizard
wizchan 2023
I seriously hope you get banned and also kill yourself you retard.
>if a person has sex he can still be a wizard because of this nonargument against crabs that has nothing to do with the definition of wizard
wizchan 2023
I seriously hope you get banned and also kill yourself you retard.
>>208335
you are 1000 times more ridiculous. If you had sex do you think you would transform into a normie? that everything about you would change?
you are 1000 times more ridiculous. If you had sex do you think you would transform into a normie? that everything about you would change?
>>208336
>If you had sex do you think you would transform into a normie?
I wouldn't be a wizard anymore and won't be arguing and trying to change the definition to include me.
You will accept people who had sex as wizards. You're a retard and worse than the in c els you hate so much.
>If you had sex do you think you would transform into a normie?
I wouldn't be a wizard anymore and won't be arguing and trying to change the definition to include me.
You will accept people who had sex as wizards. You're a retard and worse than the in c els you hate so much.
>>208337
sure if you want to keep that definition its already set in stone. but when i think of a wizard i think of the reclusive and smart characteristics of the individual. it just so happens that those characteristics have a 99% chance of you never getting laid
its like trying to convince some third world dad that some fucked up tradition like arranged marriage is bad. The "you did x you dishonor our people you are cast out" is dumb. But people are afraid of their beliefs being challenged.
normalfags are the people who would turn this place into /r9k/ 2.0 with all the sex threads and gf threads, talking about their relationships while sharing their fetishes and politics. But if OP's friend isn't like that then whats the issue? everyone here could be secretly having sex and you'd be none the wiser. Why? because it has no baring on how they post, they are bigger than it and thus aren't slime.
sure if you want to keep that definition its already set in stone. but when i think of a wizard i think of the reclusive and smart characteristics of the individual. it just so happens that those characteristics have a 99% chance of you never getting laid
its like trying to convince some third world dad that some fucked up tradition like arranged marriage is bad. The "you did x you dishonor our people you are cast out" is dumb. But people are afraid of their beliefs being challenged.
normalfags are the people who would turn this place into /r9k/ 2.0 with all the sex threads and gf threads, talking about their relationships while sharing their fetishes and politics. But if OP's friend isn't like that then whats the issue? everyone here could be secretly having sex and you'd be none the wiser. Why? because it has no baring on how they post, they are bigger than it and thus aren't slime.
personally i think being a wizard is about rejecting sex, not being a loser, so i feel closer to christian tempcels who wait till marriage, at least they knew what it was like to say no to sex during their prime years.
>>208338
>everyone here could be secretly having sex and you'd be none the wiser. Why? because it has no baring on how they post
So wrong. I can tell by the way you write that you're a normalfag and the fact you want to change the definition of wizard so friends of yours can fit in tells me you're a faggot.
>everyone here could be secretly having sex and you'd be none the wiser. Why? because it has no baring on how they post
So wrong. I can tell by the way you write that you're a normalfag and the fact you want to change the definition of wizard so friends of yours can fit in tells me you're a faggot.
If your wand is defiled then you deserve no entry here.
Interestingly though, the faq makes a distinction between virgins and kissless virgins, and then says that only virgins, who haven't had sex, are allowed here. The implication is that kissing is alright.
Maybe core staff has already decided that a bit of fun is allowed?
How much further can it be stretched
Interestingly though, the faq makes a distinction between virgins and kissless virgins, and then says that only virgins, who haven't had sex, are allowed here. The implication is that kissing is alright.
Maybe core staff has already decided that a bit of fun is allowed?
How much further can it be stretched
>>208347
I for one have never kissed anyone, and appreciate that the kissers do not disparage against kissless virgins in their posts.
I for one have never kissed anyone, and appreciate that the kissers do not disparage against kissless virgins in their posts.
What about a gigachad who's fucked hundreds of whores but now repents and perceives himself as a virgin?
>>208347
does fucking whores count? sois still call them the sexist slur for virgin. but it sounds as stupid as you would expect coming from the clown cult
does fucking whores count? sois still call them the sexist slur for virgin. but it sounds as stupid as you would expect coming from the clown cult
the real way to tell someone is still a virgin is if they have no sense of pride/self-worth/self-esteem
the normalfags here who had sex all have inflated egos and self-worth, their gambit is always going to be that they had sex and you didn't and will be secretly smug suggesting things like "truwizards don't exist" and "it's just a meme" "why do you care so much about virginity?"
the normalfags here who had sex all have inflated egos and self-worth, their gambit is always going to be that they had sex and you didn't and will be secretly smug suggesting things like "truwizards don't exist" and "it's just a meme" "why do you care so much about virginity?"
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>>206648
YOU are the man!
YOU are the man!
I think for most of us it wouldn't change anything if we had sex to be honest other than having had the experience once which would be slightly different from fucking a fleshlight. The reason why were here is not a lack of sex but other factors that wouldn't magically change just because we fucked another person once. Virginity is just a good fundamental requirement for a community like this because it indicates a certain lifestyle. The guys that OP describes in his post are not normies and they must have had sex under very special circumstances otherwise they would be able to have sex now as well and they are not. If you are able to have sex if you want to then you are a normie but if you have to pay for it or something weird led to it then you're still not a normie but also not a virgin. Remember when hotwheels lost his virginity to a mentally ill succubus who had munchausen syndrome and fetishsized taking the virginity of some retard, that happens very rarely but if it does it doesn't mean that the guy suddenly is a normie who can engage in sex anytime he wants.
I don't wanna upset anyone and I'm not implying that someone wants sexual contact so plz don't ban me immediately for this since I'm not breaking any rules.
I don't wanna upset anyone and I'm not implying that someone wants sexual contact so plz don't ban me immediately for this since I'm not breaking any rules.
>>206665
I think realistically the statue of limitations on pussy getting is like 7 years, after a complete Solar Cycle of not getting pussy one is essentially retuned to giving 0 fucks and seeming like one has gotten 0 fucks.
I think realistically the statue of limitations on pussy getting is like 7 years, after a complete Solar Cycle of not getting pussy one is essentially retuned to giving 0 fucks and seeming like one has gotten 0 fucks.
>>210806
If I cut off my hand then get a transplanted hand from someone else and then use that hand to masturbate…am I still a wizard?
If I cut off my hand then get a transplanted hand from someone else and then use that hand to masturbate…am I still a wizard?
No. There is a world of difference between those who are full wizards and those who played the game, even for a little bit. If you are a wizard or potential wizard, you would sense from an early age that not only are you out of the game, but that you find the game disgusting and see correctly that it leads nowhere good. So many of us "fail" because we see the way humans are expected to mate with each other as complete insanity and not worthwhile. It is not about a lack of desire on our part, as if it were an internal decision. The wizard recognizes that there is a world where events happen, whether he has the philosophical grounding to see it correctly or is corrupted by the ideology of the rulers. It is only for that reason that a wizard can live as he does. Wizards who truly internalize the enemy religion and false ideology will either destroy themselves, or must become useful idiots for the people who made the world into this.
It may seem mean to "exclude" people who played the game, who are much like us in their thinking and may have come to the same conclusions. Those men, though, know very well the difference between that small experience and being completely out. We're not stupid, and we figure out what this game really is. We're not like crabs who indulge in yet more failed ideology. And really, there are sexhavers who do it a lot and understand what we are, understand the wizard mind, but they know very well they are not us and can't be us. I've had people who have all the orgy fun tell me it's not all it is cracked up to be, and on some level they get that it's fucked and that wizardry is the superior way of life. Usually this comes after the ritual rejection and humiliation because they didn't rise high enough in the great game, and things like this remind me that "winning" doesn't mean much at all. Certainly the men ruined by divorce and the games played don't think they won anything after all is done. But, they have to go through the court proceedings, and often they see - and likely saw beforehand - that it was all a lie.
The wizard life requires someone to see the entire structure as rotten from the outset, and this usually is set by puberty. Normoids will never be a wizard in their mind. Even if they became total virgins, they couldn't be wizards because their mindset is alien to why we do as we do. They might resemble us more and see things our way, and adopt some of the habits of wizardry, but they are aware that they are not us and live a very different life. There is nothing wrong with that. Unlike some normies, I don't believe everyone is meant to be the same, and false moral equivalence is one of the worst things in this society, not just for us but for everyone. It always leads to people being dragged to the lowest common denominator, and the mentality is designed to destroy a democratic society where people had a stake in the society to call their own.
It may seem mean to "exclude" people who played the game, who are much like us in their thinking and may have come to the same conclusions. Those men, though, know very well the difference between that small experience and being completely out. We're not stupid, and we figure out what this game really is. We're not like crabs who indulge in yet more failed ideology. And really, there are sexhavers who do it a lot and understand what we are, understand the wizard mind, but they know very well they are not us and can't be us. I've had people who have all the orgy fun tell me it's not all it is cracked up to be, and on some level they get that it's fucked and that wizardry is the superior way of life. Usually this comes after the ritual rejection and humiliation because they didn't rise high enough in the great game, and things like this remind me that "winning" doesn't mean much at all. Certainly the men ruined by divorce and the games played don't think they won anything after all is done. But, they have to go through the court proceedings, and often they see - and likely saw beforehand - that it was all a lie.
The wizard life requires someone to see the entire structure as rotten from the outset, and this usually is set by puberty. Normoids will never be a wizard in their mind. Even if they became total virgins, they couldn't be wizards because their mindset is alien to why we do as we do. They might resemble us more and see things our way, and adopt some of the habits of wizardry, but they are aware that they are not us and live a very different life. There is nothing wrong with that. Unlike some normies, I don't believe everyone is meant to be the same, and false moral equivalence is one of the worst things in this society, not just for us but for everyone. It always leads to people being dragged to the lowest common denominator, and the mentality is designed to destroy a democratic society where people had a stake in the society to call their own.
Im in my 20s and I had failed sexual experiences with my ex gf (it didnt got up because I was anxious about my small dick), that was 2 times, it was nice before when we were cuddling each other and kissing, but when we got to the stuff closer to the real stuff, I just couldnt.
I honestly think I have it worse than You guys, I rather had been a proud wizard than a pathetic failure…(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
I honestly think I have it worse than You guys, I rather had been a proud wizard than a pathetic failure…(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>210839
realistically most of us are probably in a similar situation, as long as you don't bring it up it's fine(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
realistically most of us are probably in a similar situation, as long as you don't bring it up it's fine(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>210837
You're making a good point by stating that there is huge difference between those who were out of the game from the very beginning and those who quit willingly.
However, I think it is natural to try to play the game, especially when you're in early teens and when everyone around praises it. There are not many people so intelligent as to see the fallacy when they're 13 years old. Plus your libido striking your brains away is always there as well.
I think the difference is *when* you quit and *why*. I never really understood what's the point of the game and how to play, but external influence forced me into trying it. And you know what happened? You're right, nothing. I was spoonfed on my every step, because I would never make a move myself and yet I never made it to dating. I never even made it to a point when I could claim I have a female friend. And the most important, I never felt like that's what I want. Sure my libido was there, but I never felt interested in any real interactions outside school.
When I grew up I saw the appalling horror of enduring a female and going through the rituals. My libido is still there but any prospect of close relationship with a female repels me terribly. It's mentally painful to fight against your libido trying to wrench remains of sanity out of you, but I'd rather deal with this pain than with all the humiliation of playing the game. I don't even consider a sexual intercourse to be a reward. I feel nothing but disgust at the thought and this disgust is much stronger than the evil libido.
You're making a good point by stating that there is huge difference between those who were out of the game from the very beginning and those who quit willingly.
However, I think it is natural to try to play the game, especially when you're in early teens and when everyone around praises it. There are not many people so intelligent as to see the fallacy when they're 13 years old. Plus your libido striking your brains away is always there as well.
I think the difference is *when* you quit and *why*. I never really understood what's the point of the game and how to play, but external influence forced me into trying it. And you know what happened? You're right, nothing. I was spoonfed on my every step, because I would never make a move myself and yet I never made it to dating. I never even made it to a point when I could claim I have a female friend. And the most important, I never felt like that's what I want. Sure my libido was there, but I never felt interested in any real interactions outside school.
When I grew up I saw the appalling horror of enduring a female and going through the rituals. My libido is still there but any prospect of close relationship with a female repels me terribly. It's mentally painful to fight against your libido trying to wrench remains of sanity out of you, but I'd rather deal with this pain than with all the humiliation of playing the game. I don't even consider a sexual intercourse to be a reward. I feel nothing but disgust at the thought and this disgust is much stronger than the evil libido.
Is a wizard candidate still eligible for full status (or at least partial) if a succubus relative did stuff to them when they were a kid? (like 8-10 years old.) Asking for a friend obviously.
>>210852
I used to think the Russian Wizchan was the purest wizards as there was not a single discussion about succubi or relationships on their front page. Only years later did I discover it was all on their NSFW board.
I used to think the Russian Wizchan was the purest wizards as there was not a single discussion about succubi or relationships on their front page. Only years later did I discover it was all on their NSFW board.
>>210842
Most of us were out of the game from the start. It wasn't a choice. Schools have a way of sorting out who will not be allowed in the mating game. By the time I take an interest in succubi, it is always distant and something other people did. I knew not to get too attached, and I knew early on that they didn't like men generally. Certainly not me.
What I didn't know is that the people who participate in that game actually like the backstabbing and humiliation. That is the "pleasure" they seek. I assumed in my naivete that people saw something material coming out of the relationship itself, and that on some level they had to at least like each other. I didn't understand why humans would accept such a clearly maladaptive and cruel game that is designed to destroy reproduction and make them miserable, and why that would be normalized and accelerated. In the past, it was easier to pretend because most people were not in cities, and there wasn't that much of a "great game" to be played. It was easier to stay away from the worst of it, and normal people recognized the excesses were destructive and pointless. Certainly I heard no end of how many people hated the game, yet the constant droning of music glorified this state of affairs and naturalized it, as if we were meant to be this way and this natural law were somehow praiseworthy.
So I grow up knowing this is the culture and that the rot of it all is glorified for no reason, and it doesn't take long for me to ask why. This is not something exclusive to wizards. Plenty of normies have told me that they hate this bullshit but they feel obligated to play along. It is a minority that benefit from the "great game", who impose it on the rest of society violently. The difference now is that they can enclose the world and there isn't any escape. It used to be that many people, male and female, attempted to escape the game so they could live. Now the "great game" can choke the world, and reproduce its values in everything else. So, we are not allowed any recreation, any idea, that is inimical to the rot.
The point I'm saying is that you're going to find a lot more wizards and apprentices in the future. It has already started. They might not recognize themselves as such, and may not have any great thought of themselves as "wizards", but there are so many men who are just… done. There is no point in pretending, and it has been known for a while that the rulers are pushing artificial insemination at the least. The phase we grew up in during the 90s was a death cult, where the ideology demanded submission to a gigantic lie. That ideology is no longer able to rule as it did, and no one has any reason to go along with the forced positivity death cult of Reaganite neoliberalism. They ran out of things to plunder, and the neoliberal types are moving to the next country to suck dry after shitting us up.
Most of us were out of the game from the start. It wasn't a choice. Schools have a way of sorting out who will not be allowed in the mating game. By the time I take an interest in succubi, it is always distant and something other people did. I knew not to get too attached, and I knew early on that they didn't like men generally. Certainly not me.
What I didn't know is that the people who participate in that game actually like the backstabbing and humiliation. That is the "pleasure" they seek. I assumed in my naivete that people saw something material coming out of the relationship itself, and that on some level they had to at least like each other. I didn't understand why humans would accept such a clearly maladaptive and cruel game that is designed to destroy reproduction and make them miserable, and why that would be normalized and accelerated. In the past, it was easier to pretend because most people were not in cities, and there wasn't that much of a "great game" to be played. It was easier to stay away from the worst of it, and normal people recognized the excesses were destructive and pointless. Certainly I heard no end of how many people hated the game, yet the constant droning of music glorified this state of affairs and naturalized it, as if we were meant to be this way and this natural law were somehow praiseworthy.
So I grow up knowing this is the culture and that the rot of it all is glorified for no reason, and it doesn't take long for me to ask why. This is not something exclusive to wizards. Plenty of normies have told me that they hate this bullshit but they feel obligated to play along. It is a minority that benefit from the "great game", who impose it on the rest of society violently. The difference now is that they can enclose the world and there isn't any escape. It used to be that many people, male and female, attempted to escape the game so they could live. Now the "great game" can choke the world, and reproduce its values in everything else. So, we are not allowed any recreation, any idea, that is inimical to the rot.
The point I'm saying is that you're going to find a lot more wizards and apprentices in the future. It has already started. They might not recognize themselves as such, and may not have any great thought of themselves as "wizards", but there are so many men who are just… done. There is no point in pretending, and it has been known for a while that the rulers are pushing artificial insemination at the least. The phase we grew up in during the 90s was a death cult, where the ideology demanded submission to a gigantic lie. That ideology is no longer able to rule as it did, and no one has any reason to go along with the forced positivity death cult of Reaganite neoliberalism. They ran out of things to plunder, and the neoliberal types are moving to the next country to suck dry after shitting us up.
>>210890
nice post im also in the born-rather-than choice club
the way i see my life in hindsight just further points to how i never had a choice and everything is hard-predetermined with free will not existing
nice post im also in the born-rather-than choice club
the way i see my life in hindsight just further points to how i never had a choice and everything is hard-predetermined with free will not existing
>>210892
It was "determined" by other people who built this society that chokes actual humans to death, rather than any natural law.
I was born to lose but my life didn't have to be this, and my life could have been a sad outlier that was still manageable. I could have had more than this in a different world, whatever my faults. In any event, from an early age, I just didn't care about winning the mating game. Other people can do that - it didn't seem to help them or the offspring, and I do have to question if I'm actually that bad a person that I must be barred from reproduction. Really, when it comes down to it, any penis or vagina will do when it comes to making offspring. Certain people made this a moral crusade not because their qualities are better, but because they saw control of mating and childhood as politically useful and could assert it violently for the first time. We see the results of that world, where most people are fearful and we have to accept cokeheads running every country into the ground and making us suffer for no real reason. If I play the eugenicist game of "me wantee" I'd just contribute to the problem, and so the chief reason I was demotivated was because I could not bear to force a child to live under this regime. In a different world, I might think differently and maybe having a mini-me running around wouldn't be so bad. As much as I came to hate children and everything about childhood, I'm not a sadistic monster like them, and the children don't deserve to suffer. If a man dares say that, though, they're accused of being perverts, while the society celebrates disgusting faggots raping as they please among other depravities. Eugenicist morality is deliberately inverted.
Free will exists - for them. It wouldn't be possible to impose this naturally as a "just so" story. Naturally we would rebel against such a spurious authority because even the dumbest of us see the futility of such a society and know we don't have to live like this. Everything about this society had to be violently imposed by people who could do so for the first time, who had always wanted to do this to us because that's what they are. We are not obligated to give them a fucking thing and, inshallah, they will all be exterminated.
It was "determined" by other people who built this society that chokes actual humans to death, rather than any natural law.
I was born to lose but my life didn't have to be this, and my life could have been a sad outlier that was still manageable. I could have had more than this in a different world, whatever my faults. In any event, from an early age, I just didn't care about winning the mating game. Other people can do that - it didn't seem to help them or the offspring, and I do have to question if I'm actually that bad a person that I must be barred from reproduction. Really, when it comes down to it, any penis or vagina will do when it comes to making offspring. Certain people made this a moral crusade not because their qualities are better, but because they saw control of mating and childhood as politically useful and could assert it violently for the first time. We see the results of that world, where most people are fearful and we have to accept cokeheads running every country into the ground and making us suffer for no real reason. If I play the eugenicist game of "me wantee" I'd just contribute to the problem, and so the chief reason I was demotivated was because I could not bear to force a child to live under this regime. In a different world, I might think differently and maybe having a mini-me running around wouldn't be so bad. As much as I came to hate children and everything about childhood, I'm not a sadistic monster like them, and the children don't deserve to suffer. If a man dares say that, though, they're accused of being perverts, while the society celebrates disgusting faggots raping as they please among other depravities. Eugenicist morality is deliberately inverted.
Free will exists - for them. It wouldn't be possible to impose this naturally as a "just so" story. Naturally we would rebel against such a spurious authority because even the dumbest of us see the futility of such a society and know we don't have to live like this. Everything about this society had to be violently imposed by people who could do so for the first time, who had always wanted to do this to us because that's what they are. We are not obligated to give them a fucking thing and, inshallah, they will all be exterminated.
>>210837
>If you are a wizard or potential wizard, you would sense from an early age that not only are you out of the game, but that you find the game disgusting and see correctly that it leads nowhere good. So many of us "fail" because we see the way humans are expected to mate with each other as complete insanity and not worthwhile. It is not about a lack of desire on our part, as if it were an internal decision.
I could sense that I was out of the game from an early age, but not because I thought it was disgusting or leads nowhere good. succubi showed interest in me in middle school but I just was afraid to take the next step. I've always been afraid. In high school I was such a ghost that no one even knew I was alive let alone showed interest in me. It's not a decision either, it's merely a deep set phobia. I feel like a person afraid of heights except I'm afraid of intimacy with other people instead of heights. Becoming intimate with another person for me would be like asking a person who is afraid of heights to walk on a small plank going between two tall buildings. Maybe you have arranged a sour grapes mental cope to convince yourself you never wanted it, but personally I never chose to be like this. Yes, my own decisions and actions are leading me to be celibate, but ultimately I am probably a crab simply because I am not free to do what I wish, my choices are set by my insecurities and fears.
>If you are a wizard or potential wizard, you would sense from an early age that not only are you out of the game, but that you find the game disgusting and see correctly that it leads nowhere good. So many of us "fail" because we see the way humans are expected to mate with each other as complete insanity and not worthwhile. It is not about a lack of desire on our part, as if it were an internal decision.
I could sense that I was out of the game from an early age, but not because I thought it was disgusting or leads nowhere good. succubi showed interest in me in middle school but I just was afraid to take the next step. I've always been afraid. In high school I was such a ghost that no one even knew I was alive let alone showed interest in me. It's not a decision either, it's merely a deep set phobia. I feel like a person afraid of heights except I'm afraid of intimacy with other people instead of heights. Becoming intimate with another person for me would be like asking a person who is afraid of heights to walk on a small plank going between two tall buildings. Maybe you have arranged a sour grapes mental cope to convince yourself you never wanted it, but personally I never chose to be like this. Yes, my own decisions and actions are leading me to be celibate, but ultimately I am probably a crab simply because I am not free to do what I wish, my choices are set by my insecurities and fears.
>>210997
I think many will find some interest, but they know they can't act on it in that environment and nothing good can come from it. Basically, unless you're horribly deformed or completely incapable of appearing human behaviorally, there might be a succubus somewhere who smiles at you. You can't take that to mean anything more than it does. One of the succubi remembered me from when we were very little and so it was more about friendship than that.
The real test is when you have to join the parties, not the initial interest. That's where you get weeded out, and it is a brutal game. They don't tell us who are left out any of the secrets, and the succubi who aren't yet inducted into the club just muddle through things until they're eventually picked up. It always happens even with the succubi who are really cast down. The succubi who are "like us" are treated like animals and become rightly fearful of any man, and the nastiness takes hold of so many men. It becomes strange to believe there are nice men, and niceness does not last in society.
In any event, I've been specifically warned that if I ever were with a succubus, people would break that up. It's one of the lines of defense they use to make sure those who are not allowed in don't get anywhere, and to make sure participants in the game keep playing by the rigged rules to make everyone nasty. No one, no couple, can survive against that for too long. If you stay out of the game, you are denied promotions, kept out of the loop in society, and eventually face hardship, while those selected to rise get jobs handed to them and laugh at the losers. That will wear down anyone, and it's all by design. Knowing that, relationships on the basis of kindness are not tenable, and eventually people who get into relationships learn the hard way how this works.
If that isn't enough, you have to think for a few minutes about what marriage really is, and the institutions that enter your life as a result.
Usually, schools fucking with kids is the breaking point for a marriage. If someone is not in the club, schools will shit on the kids of any "unsanctioned" union, will make endless insinuations if you aren't paid up with the club and don't play by their rules. They, like any mafia, will make sure everyone is on the take. That's where I've seen so many decent men, men who are normies, learn the hard way what this is. The man, the succubus, the kid, all suffer because the man was not able to play a stupid rigged game, and these are men who are more normie and basically have nothing wrong with them or nothing unusual in their psychology. Enough such stories will destroy the resolve of capable men. What would that mean for men who never had an affinity for that game in the first place, who had a native disgust for the whole process? I wouldn't put up with that much hassle, and it's not like what I'd win is a "reward" in the first place. The idea of doing that now is too depressing for me to even fantasize about it. It's one reason a lot of men turn to fetishes and extreme fantasies - the society is so unlivable that the fantasies are further removed from anything real, because to think about what really happens is too horrifying.
For me, I never had that much interest in the game in the first place, and what interest I did have was destroyed very quickly with the rounds of humiliations I got, all intended to remind me that I was out for life. It was over the top stuff too - succubi slapping my butt and making jokes about sexual harassment, then accusing me of sexual assault, knowing that I was very fearful of being accused of anything like that. They knew I had seen legitimate rape in my life and was fucked by that, and that just made them do it more, with the support of teachers laughing at it. I blew it off as much as I could, but this is what they do to us. They tell us to tolerate the intolerable, then pounce on us for the slightest infraction of a made up moral code designed to be nakedly hypocritical. This is what Nazis always do, how you destroy any sort of society. What disgusts me are the people who go along with it without thinking about what they're doing - and it's not like the majority of people do this, either. Most people had enough sense not to encourage that rot and would complain to me about that shit. They weren't going to step in to stop it because they value their life, but they know it was bullshit and they know it was coordinated as part of the game. All they could tell me is that they're sorry they can't do anything about it, and I got it.
One consequence is that a lot more normies are disgusted and jaded with the process than they let on. If you aren't "happy" with this whole game though, they start making insinuations, and normie guys are pressured to kick down. That's why they do it - create a society ruled by fear, and then they intensify it until a country is destroyed. They succeeded here, and once the country is destroyed, it gets far, far worse. The saddest thing is so many saw this coming and we were told we couldn't stop it, so a bunch of cokehead screamers could take the money and literally suck our blood, then fuck off to Europe. That's what it was for. They can't even suggest that there was anything else. That's Nazism.
I think many will find some interest, but they know they can't act on it in that environment and nothing good can come from it. Basically, unless you're horribly deformed or completely incapable of appearing human behaviorally, there might be a succubus somewhere who smiles at you. You can't take that to mean anything more than it does. One of the succubi remembered me from when we were very little and so it was more about friendship than that.
The real test is when you have to join the parties, not the initial interest. That's where you get weeded out, and it is a brutal game. They don't tell us who are left out any of the secrets, and the succubi who aren't yet inducted into the club just muddle through things until they're eventually picked up. It always happens even with the succubi who are really cast down. The succubi who are "like us" are treated like animals and become rightly fearful of any man, and the nastiness takes hold of so many men. It becomes strange to believe there are nice men, and niceness does not last in society.
In any event, I've been specifically warned that if I ever were with a succubus, people would break that up. It's one of the lines of defense they use to make sure those who are not allowed in don't get anywhere, and to make sure participants in the game keep playing by the rigged rules to make everyone nasty. No one, no couple, can survive against that for too long. If you stay out of the game, you are denied promotions, kept out of the loop in society, and eventually face hardship, while those selected to rise get jobs handed to them and laugh at the losers. That will wear down anyone, and it's all by design. Knowing that, relationships on the basis of kindness are not tenable, and eventually people who get into relationships learn the hard way how this works.
If that isn't enough, you have to think for a few minutes about what marriage really is, and the institutions that enter your life as a result.
Usually, schools fucking with kids is the breaking point for a marriage. If someone is not in the club, schools will shit on the kids of any "unsanctioned" union, will make endless insinuations if you aren't paid up with the club and don't play by their rules. They, like any mafia, will make sure everyone is on the take. That's where I've seen so many decent men, men who are normies, learn the hard way what this is. The man, the succubus, the kid, all suffer because the man was not able to play a stupid rigged game, and these are men who are more normie and basically have nothing wrong with them or nothing unusual in their psychology. Enough such stories will destroy the resolve of capable men. What would that mean for men who never had an affinity for that game in the first place, who had a native disgust for the whole process? I wouldn't put up with that much hassle, and it's not like what I'd win is a "reward" in the first place. The idea of doing that now is too depressing for me to even fantasize about it. It's one reason a lot of men turn to fetishes and extreme fantasies - the society is so unlivable that the fantasies are further removed from anything real, because to think about what really happens is too horrifying.
For me, I never had that much interest in the game in the first place, and what interest I did have was destroyed very quickly with the rounds of humiliations I got, all intended to remind me that I was out for life. It was over the top stuff too - succubi slapping my butt and making jokes about sexual harassment, then accusing me of sexual assault, knowing that I was very fearful of being accused of anything like that. They knew I had seen legitimate rape in my life and was fucked by that, and that just made them do it more, with the support of teachers laughing at it. I blew it off as much as I could, but this is what they do to us. They tell us to tolerate the intolerable, then pounce on us for the slightest infraction of a made up moral code designed to be nakedly hypocritical. This is what Nazis always do, how you destroy any sort of society. What disgusts me are the people who go along with it without thinking about what they're doing - and it's not like the majority of people do this, either. Most people had enough sense not to encourage that rot and would complain to me about that shit. They weren't going to step in to stop it because they value their life, but they know it was bullshit and they know it was coordinated as part of the game. All they could tell me is that they're sorry they can't do anything about it, and I got it.
One consequence is that a lot more normies are disgusted and jaded with the process than they let on. If you aren't "happy" with this whole game though, they start making insinuations, and normie guys are pressured to kick down. That's why they do it - create a society ruled by fear, and then they intensify it until a country is destroyed. They succeeded here, and once the country is destroyed, it gets far, far worse. The saddest thing is so many saw this coming and we were told we couldn't stop it, so a bunch of cokehead screamers could take the money and literally suck our blood, then fuck off to Europe. That's what it was for. They can't even suggest that there was anything else. That's Nazism.
>>211026
that "i know a guy" plausible deniability shit is so transparent it should not fly here
that "i know a guy" plausible deniability shit is so transparent it should not fly here
>>206651
A lot of people here can relate even if they don't perfectly fit the wizard archetype, and you probably wouldn't mind talking to them if you didn't know.
That said I hate anyone who does try to ruin the sanctity of this place
A lot of people here can relate even if they don't perfectly fit the wizard archetype, and you probably wouldn't mind talking to them if you didn't know.
That said I hate anyone who does try to ruin the sanctity of this place
>>211514
I can tell every single fucking time. There's at least one faggot shitting up every thread on this imageboard talking about sex, succubi, relationships, even reproduction.
Take a look at this thread:
https://wizchan.org/wiz/res/211212.html
There's a normie trying to prove to others how reproduction is the meaning of life. You arrogant normgroids should fuck off to facebook. You already have places for the likes of you. Why are you so obsessed with ruining every single fucking thing in the world?
I can tell every single fucking time. There's at least one faggot shitting up every thread on this imageboard talking about sex, succubi, relationships, even reproduction.
Take a look at this thread:
https://wizchan.org/wiz/res/211212.html
There's a normie trying to prove to others how reproduction is the meaning of life. You arrogant normgroids should fuck off to facebook. You already have places for the likes of you. Why are you so obsessed with ruining every single fucking thing in the world?
>sex with 1 succubus and kissed like 3 succubi in his life
he's a low value normie nonvirgin most wizards are low value virgin males, don't confuse it.
If you had sexual experiences and a girlfriend you are just not the same.
he's a low value normie nonvirgin most wizards are low value virgin males, don't confuse it.
If you had sexual experiences and a girlfriend you are just not the same.
>>211521
I agree and that's why I said "if you didn't know". Threads like that are making it known
I agree and that's why I said "if you didn't know". Threads like that are making it known
>>211521
you exist merely to propagate your genes. Life literally cares about nothing else. That is a biological fact.
you exist merely to propagate your genes. Life literally cares about nothing else. That is a biological fact.
>>211580
what's Life going to do about it?
Even normies have discovered hedonism is more fun when you just have endless sex with condoms and no brats.
even normie sexhavers have no use for screaming brats these days
what's Life going to do about it?
Even normies have discovered hedonism is more fun when you just have endless sex with condoms and no brats.
even normie sexhavers have no use for screaming brats these days
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