/dep/ - Depression

You're just another unlucky man out there. 99% that your case is as far from unique as I am far from salvation.

>>286097
No, it is unique but I thank you for your opinion.

This loathing and self hatred is embarrassing to read. Why contribute to your own suffering by being so mean to yourself? And if what you've said is just a collection of sentiments of what others have said about you, then why care about what anyone else says to such a degree that you think lesser of yourself because of it?

There are people online who deal in this self-hatred like it's a pyramid scheme. Please learn to identify and disassociate from them before you begin to deal out such horrible thought processes to others like you're doing with a thread such as this. Self-respect should be what wizards have above the common man. If we are all who we are going to have, then we out to learn to love weselves. Now that November's over, I can go back to loving myself every night, hehehe

Ugliness is a virtue, and your ability to type what you have proves a sufficient level of cognition to lead a good life.

Ugliness makes entry into the pursuits of the mind and spirit all the easier. You won't be teased into a false societal membership, nor will you be dragged around by the conventions of the crowd. You can be your own man and excel in whatever area you desire to.

>>286100
>Why contribute to your own suffering by being so mean to yourself?

It all depends on how old they are. If they are still in their early 20s they should stop defining their personality as fixed and instead at least slowly work on it.

HOWEVER most of us are thrown into life randomly with no purpose. You were not defined to have some talent you need to discover. Some people just really have none. That's why religion exists because for some people there isn't anything rational hopeful you can say. That for me is the hellish part. The awareness of it all. The complete loneliness of suffering. You could be in debilitating pain and after waiting for 6 hours in the ER get sent back with no help. It's like trying to get customer support for a broken product and all you get is someone who barely speaks your language and has no clue how to help you and just tells you to turn it on and off again.

I'm thinking of giving buddhism a try but once you become aware of it all it's hard to not have it in the back of your mind that it's all cope.

>>286093
>I got one in a couple billion shit luck, and you mean to tell me this is just the result of randomness?
Of course. Also, you're way overestimating the statistics.
1/100 chance of having a hell of a life seems more plausible. Maybe even more.

>>286108
>It all depends on how old they are. If they are still in their early 20s they should stop defining their personality as fixed and instead at least slowly work on it.

Wrong, your personality is set as soon as you are three years old, neurosciences teach us.
If you were born fucked up, you stay fucked up.

>>286109
>1/100 chance of having a hell of a life seems more plausible. Maybe even more.
>>286110
>Wrong, your personality is set as soon as you are three years old, neurosciences teach us.
>If you were born fucked up, you stay fucked up.

This comment of yours is short and sound innocuous at first but it well encapsultes everything wrong with not just this site, but websites where men gather to discuss their emotional troubles in general. More "everything is hopeless, happiness is something WE are not allowed to have" blackpilling. No you fat retard, life is not set in stone at 3 years old. Happiness is not genetically predetermined. Wizards' lives aren't hell and the chance of growing up basking in despair is not common at all.

How fucking dare you go to a place where some sad maen are discussing their sadness and possible solutions just to tell them "yep, it's all hopeless and you'll be depressed forever with no chance of change". You're either legitimately delusional and belong in a care facility with no internet access, or you're a troll in which case you need to slit your fat throat in front of your family immediately. Last thing you'll see is them finally smile before it all fades to black, and you die painfully having seen proof that people who are miserable can actually become happy when whatever is making them miserable is no longer a factor in their lives. Do it.

>>286112
Toxic Optimism.

>>286114
Why is convincing men that they will be sad forever something you log in every day to do? Do you hate men? Do you hate wizards? What do you gain from this? Just another potential indoctrinate in to your Blackpill Cult, another sad toy for you to manipulate in to suicide to jerk off to with your Discord friends and lolcow forums. Drink the Kool-Aid already.

"Things can get better" is a universal fact. When the saying pertains to men's suffering, it's the only truly true truth. Describe at all how optimism can be bad, and how commonly it does end up bad that it shouldn't be suggested at all.

>>286116
>"Things can get better" is a universal fact

No…No it is not.

>>286118
Oh shit… time to give up! Thanks bro, I needed that.

>>286119
No problem, I like to clue people into reality.

>>286118
Yes it is times infinity. To suggest otherwise is to submit to some concept of demonic, ethereal forces that pull the strings to random mens' lives to make the worst conceivable life a reality.

If you've given up, then you really should kill yourself before you have the chance to convince a hopeful man to.

>>286116
Why is converting men into normalfags something you log in every day to do? Do you hate men? Do you hate wizards? What do you gain from this? Just another potential indoctrinate in to your Bluepull Cult, another happy toy for you to manipulate in to suicide to jerk off to with your Discord friends and lolcow forums. Drink the cyanide already.

"Life is a fucking vicious hell" is a universal fact. When the saying pertains to men's suffering, it's the only truly true truth. Describe at all how realism can be bad, and how commonly it does end up bad that it shouldn't be suggested at all.

>>286121
The world isn't a comic book. Horrible shit happens to people all the time and there's nothing they can do about it. Are you a child?

Like, my cousin was diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer. should he NOT GIVE UP BROOO JUST TOUGHT IT OUT STOP MAKING EXCUSES???

I would love to hear you say that in real life. Oh yeah, I already can tell you're going to say I'm comparing my problems to pancreatic cancer, no I'm using it as an example of a problem that can't be fixed.

Have you considered starving to death? I will starve to death when my parents die

>>286122
>Why is converting men into normalfags
Ah, so that's your angle. You believe anyone who smiles, who is happy sometimes, who can see himself being happy in the future and is willing to trudge through the bad to reach the good…. is a normalfag by virtue of it alone.

Clarify. If a 30 y/o KHHHFV male who likes to make origami and play Minetest is sitting in a basement and thinks to himself "Hmm, I'm not really depressed or even sad. life is good". Does this make him not a wizard? It sounds like a radical hypothetical but it really is a genuine concern because if you're the same guy that's been posting nonsense like that for months now then you really do believe he's not a wizard because he smiles when his cat tries to yawn and meow at the same time.

>>286123
>my cousin was diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer
Do you love your cousin? At least appreciate his existence somewhat? Do you want to see him smile instead of frown? If so, it would be real mean of you to sit beside him in the palliative care ward and drill in to his head "The world is all suffering, everything is pain. Life is hell forever. Happiness is a lie. You're going to die anyway so just lie down and rot.". That is the behaviour being contested in these exchanges. We have guys like OP who are at the end of their rope, and then faggots such as that "the blackpill is realistic" dumbass who climbs all the way down the rope just to kick OP off and watch him fall. That is what trolls do, it is what guys who want to see men suffer do, it is what the "blackpill" is all about. An internet cult that gets young men to kill themselves so they can be laughed at by a gaggle of men in skirts who listen to breakcore and share Sailor Moon wristcutting JPGs. Fucking pansies.

>Horrible shit happens to people all the time and there's nothing they can do about it.
Nobody is denying that bad things happen, or that some of these bad things can't be undone. What's being explained is that there's always good within reach that will take your life further from the bad. Everyone dies, some people die soon, and some of these people die in pain. These people, in their hunched-over state of ruin, would still prefer to laugh than to cry. They then achieve this through comforting thoughts, good memories, nice cat videos, conversation… Trying to get some lemonade out of the few unspoiled lemons left in the fridge. Only a freak would try to deny them this hope that even when approaching their final destination, there can be some nice sights along the way, just as there were before the diagnosis.

Your usage of a problem that can't be fixed, while still meticulously shot down by me, is irrelevant in the context of telling OP that there is no hope. All OP has said so far is that he's unfit, ugly, and not smart. Two of those things can be fixed and the other can be made up for with a great sense of humor. The rest of your post is you making a strawman, putting the "bro BRUH DUDE" surfer chad words in my mouth, and then saying "say that to my face fucker not online see what happens". Again, and again, you trolls come here and do this exact same thing. Well done, my butt is hurt, but you're not doing a good job of convincing Wizchan users to listen to your hopelessness fairytale you when you type these disconnected strawmen.

My suggestion to OP is to watch Cardcaptor Sakura. It might make him smile a bit in spite of his underlying depression. It would be nice to see OP, a fellow man, a fellow WIZARD, smile. Does anyone else have suggestions for OP?

>>286127
You are a normalfag bitch bragging about your bluepill happiness all the time when all people want is to hear they're not alone in their misery even if they have heard it a billion times before. Drink cyanide, do us a favor.

>>286129
As predicted, he begins shaking and screaming in protest when presented with the suggestion that sad people should not be made sadder on purpose.

>>286131
Normalfaggot.

>>286101
>Ugliness is a virtue
>ugliness
>something people have no control over
>a VIRTUE
your post will be pathetic if it wasn't so damn funny because it's just a big cope

>>286100
You are kind of right. I know there are a lot of people online who do intentionally try to torment me and make it worse, but I also feel they may just be right. I really haven’t ever been able to win at anything in life. I just don’t know how I could ever change and make life something good. It’s never been that way but I always think about how it could be good and I get upset when I realize it’s not possible.

(not OP) personally i might have sabotaged my own life and it could be all my fault. eventually my mind broke and i started giving away money, no psychiatrist or hospital in this country could help me, then physical illnesses took everything that was left of me, now im a broke in debt addict always in pain dying from god knows what. Feels like every time i tried to make things better it only made things worse.
I used to think my life was hell a couple years ago as well, but now i would give anything to go back to what it was like before. What i experienced this year i cant even discuss with anyone since nobody could understand it, im at a level of a homeless hobo until its all over. I regret not killing myself all these years. That was the biggest mistake of my life.

>>286112
>You're either legitimately delusional and belong in a care facility with no internet access, or you're a troll in which case you need to slit your fat throat in front of your family immediately.

>>286118
>"Things can get better" is a universal fact.

LOL
Next time you're trolling with your optimistic posts, try not to label others as trolls, at least.

>>286123
>[Is he] a child?
No, he is a normalfag, not in the wizchan sense, but in the most general sense ever.
Maybe he reads self-help books too lmao

>>286129
>[He is] a normalfag bitch bragging about your bluepill happiness all the time when all people want is to hear they're not alone in their misery even if they have heard it a billion times before.

That's the whole point indeed. If OP wants a therapist, he can get a therapist.
If OP feels he can improve something about his life, he knows what to do.
If he posts here, instead, writing what he wrote, it's not because he wants advice or bluepills, it's to share his life with others that may understand him.

And by the way I wasn't even talking to OP but I was replying to >>286108 giving my opinion (which is based on available studies) that this idea that you can change your personality when you're 20 is bullshit.

But feel free to believe whatever you want.

>>286121
I don’t think things can get better. Things have only ever gotten worse since I was a child. No, things cannot get better. I have enough experience now to say that I think. I become older, more bitter, sadder, less capable, and my body rots more

Lol op I am same as you

>>286093
How can you write like that and consider yourself mentally deficient?

>>286281
I am unintelligent and cannot really solve any problems I face in my life. I live in a state of constant confusion and I never really know what to do when faced with something new. Everything I have ever tried seriously has been a failure.

>>286284
How old are you anon

>>286285
I turn 25 this month.

>>286286
Are you that anon who posts I am sorry for posting this who loves cs, math and drawing

>>286290
That is not me. Sorry.

>>286293
I also hate my life anon, I am a poojeet born in poojeetland.

>>286294
The only difference is I am 7 years younger than you

With Wageslaving I can buy cool stuff

But nothing beat waking up every morning at any time you want and not having to go into a job

Having all day everyday to play as many videogames as you want

A small amount of money set aside by your family or the government to buy just enough games and food

I think NEETs have it made

>>286112
oh wow another optimistic fag with a hostile tongue get over your own problems before trying to preach your bullshit

>>288843
Being NEET while also getting generous donations from parents is like the ultimate life form unless you count being a rich trust fund kid which is less than 0,0001% of the planet.

No responsibilities, no job, no nagging boss or work agencies, just total freedom and a good standard of living.

Neetbucks alone probably isn't going to cut it these days due to high costs of living and inflation.
You need like $500 or more per month from your parents on top of neetbucks for a comfy life.

>>288843
>Having all day everyday to play as many videogames as you want
Yeah, like I care about that as a 37 years old. I have no hobbies, I don't get pleasure from anything other than alcohol.

>I think NEETs have it made
I'm as fucked up and depressed as I was before.

I should be livin' the dream right now, but I still feel like shit.

There is no salvation.

>>290832
>just total freedom
To do what? If you don't care about anything and you have no goals, no hobbies?


Don't get me wrong, I keep recommending getting NEETbux in any appropriate thread. Wageslaving is pure death.
But the NEETbux life is not going to fix your fucked up brain if you have a fucked up brain.
The fact alone that they gave me NEETbux because of my mental health is proof of that.

>>286093
Do not try to fit yourself in shoes you are not fit for. It is actually hard sometimes and I am a great example: On ly knowing what projectors must do helped me against my despairing job search after 8 yrs of consecutive failures at having some earnings. But no, a projector should never go after things himself.

>know your shoes