/dep/ - Depression

>>291107
And your source for all of this is still 'Because I just say so, okay?"

>>291109
NEET is a term that came up to describe a SOCIO ECONOMICAL ISSUE and you're here labeling multi millionares as neets when their lifestyles and circumstances differ entirely from neets. You couldn't be more impractical and unintelligent even if you tried. I guess some people never develop critical thinking and just spout the same shit over and over.

NEETRR (pronounced 'neater') = Not in Education, Employment, Training, Retirement, or Riches

>>291110
Source: because I just say so, okay?
I'm not even implying you should drop sauce, because there is none. I'm seriously convinced you're genuinely delusional, an ESL, or typing in bad faith to troll.

If someone is not working, training, or being taught, they are a NEET no matter the size of their bank account or how much more teen pussy they rail than you. The word is neither mine nor yours to define by subjectivity.

>>291113
Imagine having zero critical thinking skills and just repeat like a spaz a sociological term that you have little grasp of its meaning.

Neither retired nor rich people classify as neets by definition. Get over it, kid.

Look up what retired means and the socioeconomical implications of being rich which completely invalidate them both from being labeled neets.

>>291114
"Critical thinking skills" aren't required to determine that the sky is blue. They're not required to determine that anyone Not in Employment, Education, or Training is a N.E.E.T.

You've been throwing around this "you cant think critically" insult since the beginning and now you're saying that I'm just repeating myself? Talk about a pot smoker calling the katamine addict a nigger.

from google
>The term NEET, 'Not in Education, Employment, or Training', refers to a person who is unemployed, not receiving education or vocational training including apprenticeships, and includes individuals who are or are not seeking a job, excluding those of retirement age
nothing about how much money you have in your bank account. but is an homeless guy a NEET?? I don't know

>>291115
Retired people aren't neets by definition, same as rich people who do not have to work. How is that so hard to understand for your pea brain? It's like you suffer from tunnel vision and can't see that the retired and rich are exceptions to this.

>>291117
Retired people are neets by definition, same as rich people who do not have to work. How is that so hard to understand for your pea brain? It's like you suffer from tunnel vision and can't see that the retired and rich are not exceptions to this.

It's interesting that many retards here don't know that housewives, the retired, and the rich can't be neets by definition alone.

>>291120
But then I went to wikipedia and there was nothing in the definition that excluded it, except age, which excludes many wiz as well

>>291110
That is just false. You can't change definitions based on how many numbers exist in your bank account.

Do you also stop being a criminal if you kill someone while having 5 million dollars instead of 5 dollars?

>>291103
Neets aren't "at risk", where I live neetbucks is guaranteed by the constitution. So it's free income until the day you die.

The only difference between an inheritor who does nothing all day and neetbucks recipients is one gets 10k a month in dividends and the other gets 1,5k in neetbucks.
Neither one is in education, employment or training.

>>291172
>>291173
Different things. Your socioeconomic status changes when you're old and retired same when you're rich that's why they can't be neets. Neets are at risk in most countries neets don't receive income.

>>291176
What if you're old and retired but only have a pension of $1200, and the neetbucks guy has $1500?

>>287439
What's wrong with them exactly?

So basically it makes most sense to split it up like this and use the following Terminology:
>PoorNEET
you are on Gibs or borderline hobo tier.
>RichNEET
you got an inheritance or passive income and your level of money is "comfy".

thoughts?

>I think most of my depression would go away if I was free of financial stress even for a single year.
You're so very wrong my dear wiz. Even if you had enough money to pass your entire life jobless, you wouldn't be happy. Either happiness is not in material things, or we were just made to suffer. It makes sense if you think of it. Something thrives at night, something during the day, something is made to be green and prosperous, and something is made to be mere lichen, something is made to be happy, something miserable.

>>291741
>if you had enough money to pass your entire life jobless, you wouldn't be happy.
most retarded shit I've read today. Stop posting any time.

>>291733
all people I've met are assholes and those who aren't just pretend not to be.

>>291741
Utter horsecrap. My sense of happiness, safety and mental security shot up by 5000% once I obtained a small inheritance (less than 30k).

It also alleviated my sleeplessness to the point I can finally sleep without sleeping pills for the first time in a decade.
I literally feel like a different person even with a couple 10k's in the bank compared to being dead broke with the occassional $150 to my name. I feel like life is actually worth living.

Now with my disability payments and savings it doesn't matter if my car breaks down or if my washing machine stops working, I can just fix the problem by throwing money at it instead of living without a car or a washing machine for years.
I don't have to worry whether I will eat next month or not, I know I will eat next month.

Also, never underestimate the sense of possibility and wonder when you realize the world is actually your oyster and you can just throw $500 at a plane ticket and go wherever you want and it wont make a significant dent into your savings or make you bankrupt or lack food and basic necessities.

Just the knowledge of that possibility existing every single day changes your mental health for the better and transforms you as a person, compared to knowing you are confined within your tiny apartment with no way to escape even if you wanted to.

>>291763
THIS. lack of money causes lethargy and depression as a major contributing factor.

when you realize you can fly to macchu picchu any day you want or buy a new gaming pc whenever you feel like it your mind breaks free of all kinds of shackles and you start seeing opportunities where you previously saw only obstacles.

fuck anyone who thinks it doesn't make people happy. most poor people commit suicide only due to their financial circumstances and a lot of their lives would be saved if they had just $20k in their accounts.
let alone millions, but that's another discussion.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A LIFE IN A MODERN COUNTRY IF YOU'RE POOR.

>>291768
>lack of money causes lethargy and depression
>you feel like it your mind breaks free of all kinds of shackles
>fuck anyone who thinks it doesn't make people happy. most poor people commit suicide only due to their financial circumstances
>YOU CAN'T HAVE A LIFE IN A MODERN COUNTRY IF YOU'RE POOR.
this whole shackling-unshackling thing doesn't sound very modern on reflection

>>291763
>you can just throw $500 at a plane ticket and go wherever you want
>>291768
>when you realize you can fly to macchu picchu any day you want
I'm rich and I never had the urge to buy a plane ticket and travel into some 3rd world shithole or anywhere really. travelling is pointless to me, why waste money to go somewhere and look at shit you can look up on google in 3 seconds?
>or buy a new gaming pc
and play what? Games that are shitty and no fun and actually worse than the games from your childhood that you played on a toaster?
I bought a high end gaming PC and all I do is browse the internet and watch youtube.

Money is kinda like bottled cope, you can buy some distractions but it doesnt fundamentally change anything at all.

>>291793
>im rich
>money is cope
>it doesn't fundamentally change anything at all

I doubt that you are rich but even if you are just by your "arguments" you're more likely to be retarded than anything.

>>291794
I'm trying to understand our world. I don't deal with petty materialists like you.

>>291798
>I'm trying to understand the world
>so i'll say "cope" and use silly adhoms

You need a certain level of intelligence to understand the world, sadly.

I don't hate them, I just envy them a little. 🎩

>>291793
It literally allows you to sleep at night KNOWING you can't go homeless. You can book any hotel you want, you can probably buy an apartment if you want to.

How is that "bottled cope" instead of endless possibilities and safety?
Do you realize plenty of homeless people post here on their old ass phones?

If I was rich I'd circumnavigate the globe at least once, just get plane tickets from one place to the next until I'm all the way around the planet, and mostly just get drunk on the plane and not even go see anything, just one plane to the next and just drink.

>>291892
as if people haven't gone to war to have a slice of that freedom or obliterated entire countries for it. or sold their kids or kidneys or indentured 30 years of their life to labor for it.

but no, it "doesn't make you happy" according to that retard.

The ideal life for a wizard in fact is gaining passive income and investing it in some economic broker. Being unsocial is not enough excuse to trying to emerge some monetizable skill. Anything related with IT jobs and remote are ideal and easy for most of us. Maybe I don't care to be 'rich' per se but having a decent income is fundamental for buying books, computers, or collecting stuff, all of these things are the life fuel of any wizard.

>>287439
You hate that what you wish to become? Phew…

By the way, how are they not empathizing you exactly?

>>287454
This is true and a cruelty of society.
>The rich man can be a good man easier than the poor, moral luck
This is a good way to put it, the poor man may always be tempted to degrade himself or steal for wealth. He does not have the comfort to risk making a moral stance since survival takes priority. Ive heard that the "new rich" types are especially egotistical, and I think thats because they believe that they are superior than the "peasants". they feel like the poorer folk are an underclass, which is another way of displaying this "moral difference" between classes (the rich considering the poor degenerate/immoral).
However I cannot draw a line for wizardry between economic classes. I mean, where would one start? I have the privlege of neeting with parents, that would put me "above" the wageslaves wouldn't it? Does hardship create wizardry/robotics? I would say yes. how else does one become discontent? they must have suffered some kind of dissatisfaction first to make them aware, then spend the time reflecting on those negative feelings. But I feel like being rich does not make one immune to obtaining that dissatisfaction. Im sure there are many normals who lament wageslavery and the way society is going, that's not exclusive to being a wiz. Just so, I sure that rich people have their own circles in society where they have to navigate, with their own garbage rules and dynamics that can ostracize potential wizboys.

To me wizardry is mainly a mindset that's born out of dissatisfaction and disgust of social mechanics, and an attempt to disconnect from the world to avoid having to endure society. Being rich simply makes it a lot easier to distance oneself from society since they arent chained to it in order to survive via wagie. although if ones inheritance is managing a business or something then I guess they still have to interact with the norms.

Same

>rich wizards
don't think they exist
rich = normalfag

>>294120
Wizardry has nothing to do with looks, financial independence, or health.

>>294120
the rich people ive known in school have all been normalfags and dumb consumers

>>287439
What makes you think you cant earn 10k?

>>294150
Non neurotypicals in this economy don't get even manual jobs against thousands of competitors per job.

Crimes are too risky at the low level and not worth the minuscule potential payout.
Most wizards have no wealthy parents or family to ask for help.

There is a real chance he literally cannot do anything to get an amount like that with any level of effort.

>>294120
>>294123
>>294133
This is an overgeneralisation. The whole spectrum of wizardly characteristics is based on prejudices acquired from culture. Poverty contributes depression, and depression is correlated with virginity/loneliness. I am not wealthy, but I cope by simply not caring. I live off my family, not even burger flipping jobs will take me in anyway, and a virgin wagie who has no friends and is not a crab perfectly fits the concept of a wizard to me. Rich kids experience frustrations from the external world differently from otherwise spoiled kids, all relatively rich people I have known in my second/third world country were immense socializers, normalniggers and sex-havers in their teens

>>294168
>The whole spectrum of wizardly characteristics is based on prejudice
This is where you and so many others are wrong. Wizardry isn't a spectrum full of ifs and buts. The only thing that makes a wizard is whether or not he remains a virgin after the age of 29. Because of this there are no objective "wizard traits" aside from not wanting in to or to be entered by another living being.

>I am not wealthy, but I cope by simply not caring
"Not caring" is not a cope. It's just "not caring".

>>294170
>The only thing that makes a wizard is whether or not he remains a virgin after the age of 29

I've never tried to redefine that. But the concept is also an idea. A wizard as an individual being adequate to that idea is an ideal. As a substance, it is equivalent to the sum of the ideas of which it composed. The degree of wizardry is a spectrum. The ideal of the wizard archetype goes from the objective world into the subjective consciousness. There is a hierarchy of archetypes in the collective uncosciousness and normalfags will always divide people into alphas/betas/omegas beautiful/average/ugly etc. , just as crabs. The rich are normalfags and most of them are shit from experience. If someone here larps as a wizard multi-millionaire, I might larp as Nikola Tesla as well.

> "Not caring" is not a cope. It's just "not caring"

It is a gigacope and will backfire in the future

being rich is a good thing buddy

>>291112
>KHHFV
What does the "F" stand for? If it's for "fuckless" then that would be redundant since that's what "V"/"virgin" already means…

>>294215
Fanless. Poor guy is melting in the summer heat without a fan to breeze his spirit.

>>294226
I understand not having an AC (I don't), but not having a fan is just actual fourth-world… how does he even have a digital device and an internet connection?