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 No.288745

I am incapable of considering and preparing for the future and it fucks me up.

I didn't have motivation to study in college because I hated my subject and didn't really care about money because all I did was browse the net, watch anime, read manga and play retro video games which you can all do with a cheap laptop. I thought that the future will just get better and we might get UBI and more cheap escapist technology. I never even considered the fact that:

>i will get tired of these things and want more

>i will get sick of consooming and want to create
>my parents will get tired of me and we will get into arguments
>the future will actually get worse because of the economy, global instability and climate change
>neetbux could get reduced, come with harsh conditions or straight up canceled
>my health will get worse as the 20s buff wears off and I might need more money for better healthcare

Now I got tired of video games, internet and anime but these things ruined my attention span so its hard to focus on things that are more challenging and dont give instant gratification.

I want to finally move out but with the current housing crisis it seems impossible.

I have constant anxiety for the future and wish I had money and skills to at least have some mobility and choice and not just be at the mercy of fate.

My back hurts and I need to get a good mattress but no money thanks to the increased food prices.

There is no choice but to prepare for the future and do damage control but the mistakes of the past weigh on me every day. Especially since the mistakes I made were so obvious if I took the time to think for a few minutes and wasn't such an escapist addicted manchild who thought he could hide from reality if he ignored it.

 No.288746

>>288745
You didn't make any mistakes.
It is what it is.

 No.288747

>>288745
You don't get out of poverty working hard, that's a myth

 No.288749

>>288747
then how does it happen scientist? i think the case of immigrants in america is a great defense of the reality of your so-called 'myth'.

its not that every hard worker gets out of poverty, its that getting out of poverty is hard work.

 No.288750

>>288749
A typical succubus in Bangladesh makes around $1 a day making jeans in a factory for 12 to 14 hours a day.

I have never worked a day in my life and get around $1600 equivalent in Norwegian neetbucks. I also have a used Tesla and newest gaming pc, etc.
Most days I just sleep and order pizza, or do nothing.

I don't think I work 50x harder than she does. It's all about where you were born into.

 No.288764

>>288750
Truly the people at the bottom and at the top see things more clearly for how they really are

 No.288765

>>288746
He clearly made mistakes by living like a manchild, and unlike half the wizzies on here who bury their heads in the sand, he's aware of what he fucked up. Good on him for not making excuses for himself. "It is what it is" is the motto of the worthless.

 No.288767

>>288745
>my parents will get tired of me and we will get into arguments
I'm 35 and this started now, they are beginning to realize that I'm going nowhere and it makes them panic and they saying all kinds of weird shit to me.
kinda funny how all my cousins even the ones who are youngest already have careers and families on their own but I'm still stuck in the same room since I was 11 years old. still never even had a job or any friends. they literally never even saw me with other people or talking to succubi or whatever. I literally spend my entire life in front of a screen and now they ask me when I plan to get married lol

 No.288768

Im in the same situation as you OP. It feels like I didn't turn adult until recently despite being 30 years old and now I'm in this cycle of being self aware about my situation but also feeling unable to make any meaningful move because I never did anyhting productive and never had any interests I would pursue on top of my attention span etc. being fried. Escapism also lost its purpose some time ago and I cant enjoy anything, even when I try to play a game, the consciousness of my sad existence comes through and makes me unable to focus or enjoy things.

I think we just lack the blissful ignorance that many others have because were quite self-aware about our situation despite being seemingly unable to change it while others just waste their time away without ever feeling bad about it. If you were some low IQ ghetto dweller or some spergy idiot then you wouldn't even feel bad about being a retard consumer.

You're right, the only choice is to prepare for the future to the best of your abilites. Save money, work out, try to stay healthy, prepare for the worst because this world might only gonna get more difficult as you already wrote.

I pity the guys who just mindlessly blow through their neetbux and retardbux thinking that the economy will be able to provide for them like this forever. At least you're self-aware and have a drive to be more even when it seems almost impossible and you have a healthy self-preservation instinct as well.

 No.288769

>>288767
>kinda funny how all my cousins even the ones who are youngest already have careers and families on their own but I'm still stuck in the same room since I was 11 years old. still never even had a job or any friends. they literally never even saw me with other people or talking to succubi or whatever. I literally spend my entire life in front of a screen and now they ask me when I plan to get married lol
Seeing your younger relatives proceed in life while you're still in the same situation for decades is brutal. I remember watching my younger cousins grow up and now they all have relationships and careers while I'm still the same. The zoomer boyfriends of my cousins even started to mock and bully me at gatherings and now I just avoid my extended family completely because family gatherings are just another reminder of how fucked up my life is.

 No.288776

>>288769
I havent been to any family meetups in decades and I'm never invited to anything, guess nobody wants to associate with a loser like me and everyone just pretends I dont exist.
despite all my shortcomings my Parents still cling to the fantasy that I turn into a normalfag one day. insane level of delusion, as if a neckbeard wizard like me who hasnt left the house even once since 2016 would suddenly speedrun through life and tick all those boxes.
Kinda tried to explain to them whats going on but they dont really listen.
overall the least of my worries, my main problem now is my health going down the shitter.
my eyesight really took a dive and the floaters in my eyeballs are getting more and more annoying every day so even staring at a screen is getting painful now.
the other problem I have is my heart which is making me trouble now. I have a heart defect since birth but only since the last 5 years it started getting worse and noticably so.
even walking up some stairs is already getting too much, I cant sit for long and have to lie down all the time and shit hurts from time to time. sometimes I feel like I'm about to pass out. I keep this health stuff secret from my parents tho because I dont want them to drag me to doctors and hospitals.
Kinda doubt I will make it beyond 40 so even if I was a normalfag, the normalfag life was never in the cards for me.
The future really looks like shit and I'm basically just waiting for a heart attack go take me away from this cursed world.
at least the suicide question solves itself that way.

 No.288803

>>288768
> even when I try to play a game, the consciousness of my sad existence comes through and makes me unable to focus or enjoy things.

This I believe is at the root of "why video games and escapism no longer feel fun" for millions of people on imageboards.

Past a certain age like 30 it's hard to stop pretending like it's anything but an escape from an irreparably fucked up real world existence.

 No.288806

>>288803
Depression/anhedonia sucks the joy out of anything

 No.288807

>>288776
>despite all my shortcomings my Parents still cling to the fantasy that I turn into a normalfag one day. insane level of delusion

same. they like to pretend like I'm completely normal healthy and capable but I've been sitting in my room for the past 15 years, I am none of those things and the disconnect is quite grating.

 No.288808


 No.289265

>>288745
When Randolph Carter was thirty he lost the key of the gate of dreams. Prior to that time he had made up for the prosiness of life by nightly excursions to strange and ancient cities beyond space, and lovely, unbelievable garden lands across ethereal seas; but as middle age hardened upon him he felt these liberties slipping away little by little, until at last he was cut off altogether. No more could his galleys sail up the river Oukranos past the gilded spires of Thran, or his elephant caravans tramp through perfumed jungles in Kled, where forgotten palaces with veined ivory columns sleep lovely and unbroken under the moon.

He had read much of things as they are, and talked with too many people. Well-meaning philosophers had taught him to look into the logical relations of things, and analyse the processes which shaped his thoughts and fancies. Wonder had gone away, and he had forgotten that all life is only a set of pictures in the brain, among which there is no difference betwixt those born of real things and those born of inward dreamings, and no cause to value the one above the other. Custom had dinned into his ears a superstitious reverence for that which tangibly and physically exists, and had made him secretly ashamed to dwell in visions. Wise men told him his simple fancies were inane and childish, and he believed it because he could see that they might easily be so. What he failed to recall was that the deeds of reality are just as inane and childish, and even more absurd because their actors persist in fancying them full of meaning and purpose as the blind cosmos grinds aimlessly on from nothing to something and from something back to nothing again, neither heeding nor knowing the wishes or existence of the minds that flicker for a second now and then in the darkness.

They had chained him down to things that are, and had then explained the workings of those things till mystery had gone out of the world. When he complained, and longed to escape into twilight realms where magic moulded all the little vivid fragments and prized associations of his mind into vistas of breathless expectancy and unquenchable delight, they turned him instead toward the new-found prodigies of science, bidding him find wonder in the atom’s vortex and mystery in the sky’s dimensions. And when he had failed to find these boons in things whose laws are known and measurable, they told him he lacked imagination, and was immature because he preferred dream-illusions to the illusions of our physical creation.

So Carter had tried to do as others did, and pretended that the common events and emotions of earthy minds were more important than the fantasies of rare and delicate souls. He did not dissent when they told him that the animal pain of a stuck pig or dyspeptic ploughman in real life is a greater thing than the peerless beauty of Narath with its hundred carven gates and domes of chalcedony, which he dimly remembered from his dreams; and under their guidance he cultivated a painstaking sense of pity and tragedy.

Once in a while, though, he could not help seeing how shallow, fickle, and meaningless all human aspirations are, and how emptily our real impulses contrast with those pompous ideals we profess to hold. Then he would have recourse to the polite laughter they had taught him to use against the extravagance and artificiality of dreams; for he saw that the daily life of our world is every inch as extravagant and artificial, and far less worthy of respect because of its poverty in beauty and its silly reluctance to admit its own lack of reason and purpose. In this way he became a kind of humorist, for he did not see that even humour is empty in a mindless universe devoid of any true standard of consistency or inconsistency.

In the first days of his bondage he had turned to the gentle churchly faith endeared to him by the naive trust of his fathers, for thence stretched mystic avenues which seemed to promise escape from life. Only on closer view did he mark the starved fancy and beauty, the stale and prosy triteness, and the owlish gravity and grotesque claims of solid truth which reigned boresomely and overwhelmingly among most of its professors; or feel to the full the awkwardness with which it sought to keep alive as literal fact the outgrown fears and guesses of a primal race confronting the unknown. It wearied Carter to see how solemnly people tried to make earthly reality out of old myths which every step of their boasted science confuted, and this misplaced seriousness killed the attachment he might have kept for the ancient creeds had they been content to offer the sonorous rites and emotional outlets in their true guise of ethereal fantasy.
But when he came to study those who had thrown off the old myths, he found them even more ugly than those who had not. They did not know that beauty lies in harmony, and that loveliness of life has no standard amidst an aimless cosmos save only its harmony with the dreams and the feelings which have gone before and blindly moulded our little spheres out of the rest of chaos. They did not see that good and evil and beauty and ugliness are only ornamental fruits of perspective, whose sole value lies in their linkage to what chance made our fathers think and feel, and whose finer details are different for every race and culture. Instead, they either denied these things altogether or transferred them to the crude, vague instincts which they shared with the beasts and peasants; so that their lives were dragged malodorously out in pain, ugliness, and disproportion, yet filled with a ludicrous pride at having escaped from something no more unsound than that which still held them. They had traded the false gods of fear and blind piety for those of licence and anarchy.

Carter did not taste deeply of these modern freedoms; for their cheapness and squalor sickened a spirit loving beauty alone, while his reason rebelled at the flimsy logic with which their champions tried to gild brute impulse with a sacredness stripped from the idols they had discarded. He saw that most of them, in common with their cast-off priestcraft, could not escape from the delusion that life has a meaning apart from that which men dream into it; and could not lay aside the crude notion of ethics and obligations beyond those of beauty, even when all Nature shrieked of its unconsciousness and impersonal unmorality in the light of their scientific discoveries. Warped and bigoted with preconceived illusions of justice, freedom, and consistency, they cast off the old lore and the old ways with the old beliefs; nor ever stopped to think that that lore and those ways were the sole makers of their present thoughts and judgments, and the sole guides and standards in a meaningless universe without fixed aims or stable points of reference. Having lost these artificial settings, their lives grew void of direction and dramatic interest; till at length they strove to drown their ennui in bustle and pretended usefulness, noise and excitement, barbaric display and animal sensation. When these things palled, disappointed, or grew nauseous through revulsion, they cultivated irony and bitterness, and found fault with the social order. Never could they realise that their brute foundations were as shifting and contradictory as the gods of their elders, and that the satisfaction of one moment is the bane of the next. Calm, lasting beauty comes only in dream, and this solace the world had thrown away when in its worship of the real it threw away the secrets of childhood and innocence.

 No.289268

I would suggest you prepare now. In my 20's I could never have fathomed the severe hardship and poverty of my 30's. Do whatever it is that you can to empower yourself and ready for difficult times, it will help with your anxiety and give you something purposeful to focus on. Things will be so much worse if you put it off, and there may come a point where you cannot turn things around and will be doomed to a very long and difficult life. Pretty sure I dealt with something similar, not sure I would call it blindness as much as obfuscation of the future by the marring of the present.

This may not be of use to you, but you can use post-it notes or similar, put up some reminders around your room and living space, compelling you to take action you know will pay off, and prepare you in some way. You can start very small. I've done this during some rough times and it helped a lot.

On the topic of planning for the future, all wizard should be proactive about dental health, and if you're a poor wizard you will need to have an account or savings for your dental only. Save up a little each month small amounts. Always you need to take care of your teeth, you need them not just for eating, but once you lose your teeth and stop chewing, it does something to your brain deteriorates your mind even more, something to do with nerve stimulation. I can't remember how exactly but it would be easy to chase down for anyone interested.

Use dental floss and brush regularly. Try putting up a special note for yourself somewhere in your room or house, maybe on the back of your door when it's closed, to remind yourself to brush, and not be in extreme pain from dental because of lack of future planning.

 No.289285

>>289265
That was a good read. Too bad I have a fairly bad case of aphantasia, so I have a really hard time visualizing beauty around me. If I want to experience it, I need to pour thousands on updating my ugly wallpapers, furniture and chipped paint.

But I do realize the pursuit of things is in vain and ultimately meaningless.
To me it's just a cope so I don't feel sad the moment I wake up and have to look at decrepit surroundings.

 No.291298

>>288745
I have realized the same thing about myself recently. I simply do not have the capacity to plan for the future in any concrete way. I believe that it has to do with having health anxiety throughout my teens and being convinced multiple times that I was going to die soon, so my brain learned that long term planning isn't worth much in the face of RNG tragedy.
The only thing that motivated me to give up the constant online scrolling was because it made me more miserable than the process of giving it up. The only reason I take care of my body somewhat is because of my afforementioned health anxiety. The only reason I started budgeting is because I've been in the red for a while and it started having immediate effects on my life. The only reason I'm learning programming and OpenGl is out of some weird nostalgic impulse to recreate the feelings of enjoyment I had when playing games years ago. Etc. I have no idea or plan where I will end up in the future. I think it's pointless to try and do so. I just do things because they seem to be worthwhile right now and hope for the best.
>>289265
This was great. I am scared of the day I stop dreaming, the peace and wonder of sleep is often the highlight of my day.

 No.291356

>>288767
I recently admitted to my parents that I think the reason I am crazy is because I developed an anxious-avoidant attachment style in childhood due to emotional neglect. I said that we have a relationship that is essentially like co-workers and that is not emotionally intimate. I don't know if this was a mistake or not. I felt like the worlds biggest asshole and had to fight off the urge to cry because I don't want to blame them as they've not really done anything wrong, they were just introverts who are not emotionally available. Considering I grew up to be the same way I empathize with them. They were actually good to me unlike many wizard's parents, but I still think I am fucked up because of emotional neglect and I told them as much. It's interesting to clear the air about this. I think it makes my parents feel guilty probably and like I said I feel like an asshole. I don't know if it was a mistake or not. My gut screams yes, just keep avoiding, don't get into this sort of shit it's a can of worms but maybe listening to that impulse is why I remain stuck in life.

 No.291408

>>288745
>Now I got tired of internet
How did you even do that? Internet is like bottomless well for me. I just can't stop surfing web, addiction is very strong.



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