No.296518
Is suicide from hanging painful?
No.296522
>>296511Are You going for partial or full hanging?
No.296523
>>296518If you do it normally it is like someone is strangling you, so if you enjoy breathing, it is not fun. Most advice is to do this weird jump where if you can push your self down fast enough and at a weird angle the noose can snap your neck, which is far less painful.
No.296525
>>296511Same, my health issues are bringing me to suicide
No.296530
poor souls suffer while evil people live the best life
No.296531
>>296523>>296518If done properly it takes only 5-20 seconds until loss of consciousness due to compression of the carotid arteries. Snapping your neck is not a good idea, what the fuck are you talking about
No.296740
>>296531 is right, partial is difficult, dont try it. do a full suspension, its not about snapping your neck, its about falling from a height high enough that you won't be able to back down once you kick the thing you standing on. if you won't have anything to grab then no matter how you die in probably 1-2 hours uninterrupted your brain will be so dead nobody will be able to 'save' you.
No.296757
>>296756Good luck Wizbro, please die as soon as possible in a quick way (hopefully)
No.296758
>>296757I wish I used "please rest as soon" instead of "die"
No.296759
>>296757 >>296758Doesn't matter, know what you meant :), thank you and goodluck in yours.
No.296760
>>296530True. It's such a simple statement but it really has a million words contained in it.
>>296511Man don't die. You're gonna die eventually anyways. Why today? Look I am brown, short, skinny fat, balding, Indian, poor, low IQ, and my dick doesn't work and a jackass driving truck crashed into my father's car today which I was driving.
So you must be surely better than me right? Look I am not saying that there are people doing worse than you so your problems don't matter, they do. But suicide is irreversible. If you've enough food to eat, a roof over your head and an internet connection for now, things are good.
And hanging? My god that is the worst and most painful way to go.
No.296762
>>296760Don't talk when you know nothing about methods and the poster. Hanging is not a bad method and it doesn't have to be painful. You know nothing about his situation. Spouting feel good stuff and others have it worse doesn't help. A suicidal person is at a point that requires serious and quick improvement of his living situation.
No.296778
How does suicide by sodium nitrite work?
You ingest it? Mix it with water? How much is enough?
No.296779
>>296778Searched on sanctionedsuicide
No.297312
How would a NEET believably go about finding a large height to fall to his death from? I'd prefer my death to be ambiguous as to whether it was suicide or an accident.
No.297342
>>297312idk. there are so many fall suicides, but thinking about it logically, i looked through my whole area, and there arent even any tall buildings in my city, and outside, looking at part of my country, tall buildings are either skyscrapers where u have to live to jump from, or some building sites that you'd have to break in. Basically if you don't already know of such a place odds are i don't know how to find it. Maybe you can go and find some high tourist spots somewher but i have no idea how one would do that. Or travel half the world to known ones.
No.297359
>>297312I think a more effective way to achieve this would be to travel to a cold country, fall through lake ice and drown. That's a lot more believable as an accident and you can do it in any isolated place
No.297365
>>297360you're just a death fearing coward but keep pretending there's a morality to your fears
No.297532
>>297531buy a wig and write in the testimony that you want the carcass attendants to throw the wig on your body's face
No.297533
>>297532I have autism so I'm not sure if you're joking or not. Are you joking?
No.297535
>>297533yes, im joking
i find it very strange, and to be honest, a bit narcissistic to be concerned about your dead body's hair, of all things
No.297536
>>297533thats how i felt about
>>297531 No.297541
>>296511I have been thinking too much about my future lately and the topic of suicide, I am saving some informative posts about some suicide methods in my google drive, so I can have all the instructions, dos and don'ts when my care taker passes away and I will be forced to endure homelesness, hunger, and worsening health (due to lack of income) I must finish my document, enable the offline mode, get the 2 password authentication, and download it in my device, so, I can have it when shit hits the fan, hopefully once I am done with this O.C.D-ish task, my anxiety will be minimum.
No.297552
>>297541This thread is just skyrocket levels of cuckhoardary for telling wiz who to kill himself instead of some others
No.297553
>>297552EFILism is supreme.
No.297859
Guys, I bought Morphine. 10mg in pill forms. 60 pills. I bought it just to get high but I am now considering taking a lethal dose and end my life. I'm like OP. I'm not even depressed. I just wanna leave this existence and maybe something better than this will come. Idk. I mean, we're gonna die anyways. Isn't it better to go by your own doing than waiting for an agonizing pain and dying at the hospital at "God's will"?
No.297886
>>297859combine opiates with benzos and alcohol for an instant death combination
No.297887
>>297859Voluntary euthanasia should be a human right
No.297897
>>297859shit dose. they sell 200mg morphine here and junkies do it i.v.
get a higher dose or 80mg oxys at least
No.297905
I live in an area with lots of drugs and crime. How much fentanyl do I need to die and in what form? Will swallowing or snorting it work or do I need to inject?
No.297906
>>297905bro, dont do dat, there is always a tomorrow, and i know good things will happen with u
No.297907
>>297906I am a college dropout with 0 job experience at the age of 30. There's literally nothing for me in life.
No.297908
>>297906you dont know shit about a random user posting on here
>>297905snorting it would work, it would be by ideal method. impossible to say how much because sellers with dilute /cut it to unpredictable levels
No.297909
>>297905you need to do drug at least everyday
No.297925
Is a pullup bar doable for suicide? I'd still have my feet on ground. Ideal ligature?
No.297929
>>297925No, it is only good for hanging and pulling up by your hands. If you try to hang from your neck instead it gives you an error.
No.297942
>>297925if it were high enough it would be great, but you say your feet will be on the ground, so no
No.297955
>>296511I'd rather eat the corpse of any responsible than rather kill myself for whatever the world means to me. This thread is improper, and should be boycotted
>>296530That's what we might better focus on.
No.298160
I drilled a 2x4 to the wooden parts of the ceiling of my room, rafters I guess? I could stand, tie a ligature and kick a stool from out of me. But I weigh 240 lb. Would the board snap or some shit?
No.298172
>>297360you're an actual retard if you believe this. And I don't mean like the people from the low iq thread though that might check as well. At least those have some dignity. You however are seriously dangerous as you are deceived.
No.298173
>>298172looks like a comment an adolescent would make or a troll post
No.298197
newfag here, currently 18- just turned it on the 17th lol. i feel like my life is over, i have never had a relationship- platonic or romantically.
i have various addiction issues and i am just an overall faggot. should i just rope?
No.298199
32 years old and I have no hope of anything ever improving for me.
No.298204
Is there any Kind of stuff(Like drug/medicine)that i can buy easily and Overdose on and die quick?
I dont even feel so depressed everything is Just so boring its Just not worth living anymore i dont wanna be humiliated anymore
No.298214
>>298197You're 18 basically a child. Start making incremental progress and youre ahead of 99% of people on earth
Unrelated, to the thread: how to make sure you don't survive from hanging?
No.298222
>>298214Idk man, we were 18 once too. Would anything have helped us overcome our burdens?
Imo we're just paper boats in the vast ocean of life, there's not much within our control. We do the best with the shitty hands we inherit.
Even if I was 18 again I have no idea how I could've negated this pathetic state I'm in now. I can't change the genes I inherit.
No.298252
How lethal is hanging? Is it likely that I could survive, but become retarded? I live with people (parents obviously we are on fucking wizchan). I could do it like at 2 am and they get up at 6 am. Would 4 hours be enough to die? Whats the best rope/knot?
No.298263
>>298214>>29825212 mm polypropylene rope. Slipknot.
Full suspension hanging is very reliable as long as you really have a good anchor point to hang from. You may struggle to find a good anchor point inside a home. You cant do it inside while people are sleeping because the process of death can easily make a lot of noise. If nobody finds you id leave at least 30 min to be sure, even though you should be unconscious within seconds.
No.298284
>>298263Would buying a bunch of fentanyl be better? Just find a bunch of pills and keep snorting or should I inject?
No.298287
>>298197You're a young man in a world that walks on young men.
You're still hormonally volatile - your lust and anger deceives you.
You're too young to have developed your own sense of culture and belonging.
You haven't sampled to sweet fruit of self-purpose, adventure, or solitude.
There are 6 billion people who hate you and want you to die. They're faggots, don't listen to them.
You know the game is fun but challenging because you've seen other people enjoying it. Don't quit before leaving the tutorial area. Give it a fair shot before logging off.
>i have never had a relationship- platonic or romantically. You are eighteen. Less than a quarter of your peers can say any different and those who can are statistically unlikely for these relationships to endure. If you want to do a romance quest then go do one. If you fail then learn from your failures and try again after you've done some other things in the game.
No.298288
>>298284snorting or injecting fentanyl is better, thats a top method if you can get it
No.298289
>>298287I am Not him but i am pretty much the same as he is
I just cannot stand this shit anymore its a lie that Things will get better the older you get
And even if this Feeling that i have is making it Impossible to even wait that Long i can feel myself slowly going fucking insane i dont even feel Like myself and everything feels so Distant and boring
Its a fucking Nightmare and Not to forgot i cannot look into a mirror anymore i hate my ugly horse face so much .
My life wont get better anymore and i Know that the only thing that will soon come is me having to wageslave away and lose myself more and more
This was my ""Game"" and i am logging off it hasnt been fun since i was 13 and its not gonna be anymore fun in the Future
Once the agepill hits its going to go even more down
No.298290
>>298289>its a lie that Things will get better the older you get It's a lie that things will stay bad, and the people who are lying are doing so because they hate young men. Lying piece of shit. You're not helpless to change your living conditions or capabilities at the age of 18. Have some accountability or keep your fingers away from the keyboard. Yes it might be hard for you to get away from whatever evil is keeping you down, but fuck off and die if you feel the need to convince other men online that your incapacity and hopelessness is normal.
Some conditions of being 18 are:
Physical:
>Unpredictable hormone imbalances, sexual irritability>Constant physical and mental fatigue from growingObligational:
>Generally being expected to be more and do more>Inexperience in pretty much everything an adult needs to doExperiences:
>Seeing your peers stray from you on their own paths>Knowing nuance, assuming things are being said that are not actually being saidAll of these will go away in no long while. There are solutions to them now too!
For the physical, just find an outlet for your growing and sweating body. Just lift weights or go for a run. Compounding the new fatigue with the constant fatigue will let you sleep your troubles away and awaken stronger and healthier than you were. For the obligaitonal, just stop caring. You're a dumb teenager like we all were. Cut your jeans and huff paint behind the library. Who cares? Dumb people, and the only thing dumber than a dumb person is someone who cares what a dumb person cares about.
For the experiences, just do stuff. Take the bus, go shopping for bootleg anime DVDs, throw stones at passing cars. Every step you take in SoCiEtY will strengthen your footing in the long run. Scrolling Instagram and watching other people do stuff does not count as doing stuff.
>agepillOh, it's another "blackpill is TRUTH. Take the KILLYOUSELFPILL, silly young guy" memelord troll. Or someone who was groomed by one.
No.298291
>>298290Are you 16? Things only get worse when you age.
No.298292
>>298291No they don't, unless you're some queer with an infantilism fetish.
No.298293
>>296511>will become a certified wizard this year>have a decent paying job>hate it but stick with it consistently>economy is so fucked beyond all repair that I do not expect to live with dignity /alone/ in a house - most likely a life-long renter>hate people with a passion>childhood trauma>everyday is reliving the past while LARPing as a functional adult>highest aspiration in my existence is literally becoming a pony or a horse so that I can vibe in nature without the complexities of humanity nor painful memories>do not value the human experience at allEvery night I wish to die in my sleep, and everytime I awake in the morning I instead die a little more inside.
No.298316
>>298287lust is the least of my concern, ssri's effectively castrate you. i would not engage in lust even without, it is vain.
i don't see anything i might be "missing", 18 is the beginning of the downward spiral.
i won't quit yet, i just feel capped with autism and retard points.
No.298327
>>298316Why are you taking SSRIs at 18? Or at any age for that matter if you're not that guy? No wonder you feel like shit. Burn that poison and fucking decapitate whatever faggot doctor is prescribing chemical lobotomies to children.
The hormones responsible for lust, anger, and sorrow are generally kept in balance with those needed for self-contentedness, peace, and happiness. Subduing any of them with drugs or alcohol is going to throw things out of whack and in time you won't be able to feel anything, relying on more and more SSRIs just to function at baseline level. You are a grooming victim no different than a "trans kid" being given hormone blockers, because that's effectively what SSRIs do. Don't strangle your brain by cutting off chemical supply lines and restricting synapses that, at 18, are totally normal and neccesary for you to grow. You've got 7+ years of natural brain and body growth, don't throw that away by stunting yourself with poison.
Now I'm butthurt over your situation. Kill doctors. Behead doctors. Roundhouse kick a doctor into the concrete. Slam dunk a doctor's prescription into the trashcan
No.298329
>>298327i'm getting off of them, stay rest assured. they tried to start adhd meds and i won't take those either. however, lust is not an emotion. it is the devil's form.
desire is human- lust is not.
even without ssri's i would still be a autistic khv loser
No.298334
>>297360Das kann ich bestätigen.
Diese Ballastexistenzen hier müssen sterben und mein Penis wird hart wenn ich daran denke.
Für die Wirtschaft, die Volksgemeinschaft und meinen harten Penis.
Sieg Heil!
No.298335
>>298329adhd stimulants are a useful tool and you could even sell them. no need to take them everyday
No.298336
>>298334Ja!
harten Penis, mein brüder
Sieg Heil!
No.298442
Hey i have decided i am Just gonna try it with sodium nitrite Wish me luck
No.298445
>>298442good luck wizbro. hope you end up deader than a doornail
No.298449
Not to dissuade you from this apparently resolute decision, but suspicion peeves me that you might be counted among the crowd of world-weary croakers who suddenly regret their resignation in its finality.
If the rope snaps, do you think you would be met with unexpected gratitude and rejoice, or ironic life-affirmation?
No.298451
How to how heroine do you need to OD? I don't know how to cook it. Can I snort it instead?
No.298453
Recently, I turned 27 years old, I have many chronic diseases and other problems, I have no money or income, I live at the expense of my parents, I have no education and other things. I'm NEET! Recently I went to the doctor who said that I have every chance of becoming a 30 disabled person, rheumatoid arthritis, but I have no money for treatment to check this disease. An old sick mother who drags me. I am so tired of it that my life will always make me suffer. I want to do what I had to do for a long time. I’m not afraid or I'm not sad, I don’t care that I'm tired of all this, I'm going to do it on the handle of the house. Of course, I will delete all the information and burn my perspiration and other things .. We are wizards from birth in shit, and we must understand that many of us lost when we were born. I am going to draw up a small work plan that I want to do before leaving (although I have no money). I would very much like to do it to the music and just fall asleep on forever, but in my country I can’t get a medication. Although I will listen with pleasure how to do it more correctly on my door, I think to use a belt.
No.298454
32 yr old wizzie looking to check out.
It gets worse for me every passing year now that I've crossed into my 30's.
No.299387
>>296511what are the most efficient things to suspend the rope from when you're hanging yourself? I've been struggling to find anything and there aren't any forests near me. guns are illegal in my country and I don't know how to get drugs. I can't take it anymore I just want to die and never see my ugly self again
No.299389
>>298449>you might be counted among the crowd of world-weary croakers who suddenly regret their resignation in its finality.They weren't suicidal in the first place. They were doing it as a cry for help.
No.299393
>>298449Why does it matter? It doesn't. Survival instincts mess with the brain in all kinds of ways, but it's just another evolutionary biological reaction
No.299673
>>299668
Depends on your situation of course, but I don't see how it could fail with a properly secured exit bag and just two minutes of research. One side effect of failure is brain damage due to lack of oxygen i suppose. Another "side effect" is that it will be an obvious suicide, and not accident, if you care about that stuff. Then again it won't be a messy suicide for some poor soul to clean up.
No.299702
>>297531I would advise against shooting yourself in the head and here's why. There's at least some evidence that converges on the idea that before you die, your life flashes before your life before you die literally. All your memories come into your vision sort of like a compilation before your brain shuts off. And its because of this time slows as your dying drastically from your perspective. If you were to shoot yourself in the head straight away, you would go straight to black. to actually experience the life flashing before your eyes, I would shoot yourself in another fatal area of the body like the heart for instance
No.299703
>>299702Not that wiz, but why does this matter? What is the benefit of having one's life flash before their eyes, especially if that life was awful enough to provoke suicide? I'm not seeing the downside of 'straight to black' here. Aside from that, your suggestion would potentially cause more pain and suffering prior to death, which is completely unnecessary. What's your true angle here?
No.299704
>>299701I have done extensive research which suggests that all this is wrong. Blocking the carotid arteries leads to loss of consciousness within a few seconds. It may be painful for 5-15 seconds. People test this with manually applying pressure such as with 'partial hanging': you can try it yourself and see that you start to pass out.
Breaking the neck makes it more pleasant for observers because the body doesnt move as much but it is said by some that it doesnt even cause instant death, it is just paralysis.
No.299724
>>296760nta and don't have a self deled plan but
>gonna die anywayslife is just a sinusoidal oscillating between 0 and -1 . i'm never actually "happy" or anything like this. my youth is gone and it only gets worse from here according to literally everyone who has ever lived, oh yeah except randoms who become rich and don't need to work. fat chance that happens to me
>there are literally people in africa suffering more than you rn you can't self deletethinking about how much others are suffering doesn't make me happy, retard.
No.299747
i just discovered i can use a belt for hanging, no need for a new brand rope.
No.299813
I hate normies
No.299825
>>299812
Guns are the best if you can get them, 99% reliability(shotgun to head) no pain(bullets travel faster than nerve signals) otherwise I would go for laying on train tracks, and if you have neither only then would I go for hanging.
No.299833
>>299825a tent + charcoal/wood burning + a place deep in the forest is pretty good too
No.299949
I think I'll have a train decapitate me. Guns are not easy to get in my country unfortunately
No.299985
Its because I can't imagine things getting better that I'm wondering if I should even stay. I feel like I'm trapped. Everyone depends on me working, god frowns on my fair weather faith. I don't know how to make myself happy again. Not like I was before. I don't look forward to anything but sleep. Everything feels so heavy like I'm just over it and ready to call it all off.
No.299989
>>298292Yes they do. Are you retarded? Just look at all the old people around you. They are all rotting and near death. Age brings about more illnesses, conditions, etc.
No.299996
Well, you heard about exit bags, but it's not exactly reliable. For one, a literal bag has a lot of leaks, you don't have anything to maintain the steady pressure and a lot of gas is wasted simply blowing past you instead of being released on demand.
What you really need is
1. SCBA/SCUBA full-face mask with integrated second-stage gas regulator
2. 5L-10L gas cylinder with any inert gas (at 150-300bar)
3. First-stage gas regulator to drop the pressure from cylinder's to the one mask's second-stage regulator is designed for
4. A hose to connect the mask to the first stage regulator
5. Fum tape to apply to threads and seal the connections
6. (Optional) some threaded adapters (see below)
SCBA/SCUBA masks are relatively comfortable, they come with handy straps that make sure mask stays on, no matter what. There will also be no leaks or wasted gas, since it will only be going in when you're taking a breath. Be careful however with SCUBA masks, they typically also have a purge button on the nose, which you don't want to fall on. Not serious, just may be unpleasant, as exhaling will be a struggle, and it's also a bit noisy above water. With 5L cylinder you also have a chance of venting all of it before brain death, so just assume position where that won't happen - on back, or sitting for example, but not over the table.
The sense of choking is coming from excess of CO2, rather than from the lack of oxygen, so any inert gas will do to fill the lungs, but helium and nitrogen are the most widely available. Helium is used for the balloons, and nitrogen is used for welding, so either should be easy to buy anywhere. Purity hardly matters, even the lowest sold 99.8% will do. Consider also taking a gas cylinder cart, it will simplify moving cylinder around, as those can be quite heavy. Take 10L one if you haven't worked with this before, you'll need some extra gas for testing everything out.
Mask's second-stage regulators are typically designed for 9-10 bars, so a first stage regulator is needed to drop the pressure from cylinder's 150-300 bars. Take one with manometer and adjusting handles, rather than fixed-pressure diving ones, it would be easier to manage. Most gas cylinders have a valve with 1/2"M port, so you'd need a 1/2"F input on gas regulator.
A hose should be long enough for comfort, 100-150cm is ideal, but with proper cylinder positioning, stock 60-70cm may also be enough.
Apply several layers of fum-tape to each male threaded connection, then after screwing it in with a wrench, apply more fum-tape around the connection to make it completely airtight.
Gas regulators typically have 1/4"M thread output, while mask hose is having 3/8"M thread on both ends, so you'd need some threaded coupling to connect them and adapt the difference. Those are not super common (may need to wait for the delivery), but they exist. If you can't find a single 1/4"F ~ 3/8"F part, try two: 1/4"F ~ 1/4"F + 1/4"M ~ 3/8"F. This is likely to be the main source of leaks, so make sure to fum-tape it well.
After assembly, open the cylinder valve, set the first stage to mask's designed pressure, sit/lie, strap on the mask, turn mask's valve to start breathing with cylinder contents rather than atmospheric air and simply wait. After couple of minutes you'll start fading out, but you may remain at least partially conscious for 5-10 minutes and then it will take another 10-20 minutes until complete brain death.
No.300006
>>299949But what about blackpowder guns?
No.300029
I was looking into death by co2 poisoning. Buy a small camping bbq of some sort, buy charcoal, light charcoal inside car, take some pills to sleep, never wake up. Idk if thatll work but seems the least painful way to go about it.
No.300035
How easy it is to suicide by hanging
>It was committed by a woeman
>Not even with a proper rope
>Not even with a proper hanging place, just a doorknob
>Husband was nearby
>A housekeeper found Spade hanging from a red scarf tied to a doorknob in her bedroom, according to police. Her husband Andy was home at the time. The designer left a suicide note addressed to her 13-year-old daughter, telling her it was not her fault, reports CBS News' Jericka Duncan.
No.300083
I live in pain all the time
No.300087
This website is so diverse on the one hand you have the people discussing suicide and on the other you have people saying how wonderful it is being a wizard and how they are oppressed here by people who devalue their experiences. Although for some reason I think there are more people who depressed than happy. Did we ever have a poll regarding this?
Personally though I won't really recommend suicide to anyone cause you're gonna die eventually and as you get older time speeds up or so I have heard so it should not be a problem. Hopefully speaking you guys manage to turn your lives around. Although it's not like nobody here cares for anyone, like no one would give anyone here a penny if they needed so there's that as well.
No.300092
>>300087It can take a long time to die even after your spine stops working and your primary continuation choice is to gradually getting paralyzed while rotting in own piss and excrements left from improper care of indifferent and infrequent nurses. Vegetative functions and consciousness can be maintained for decades even in such condition with said minimal care.
No.300093
I always just wish the van that hit my foot when I was a kid had run over a more rewarding place.
>my head
That why I'd never be even thinking about suicide now. But I'll tell you this "accidents" that happen when young totally change the development of one's brain. Just being me, physically and mentally slow at a young age and bullied and belittled.
>Hey it's the retard who got hit by a car
>Hey do you need your mommy to hold your hand when you cross the street?
I remember vividly around middle school age wanting to stab myself with a knife in the kitchen multiple times, this is at a very young age and I was homeschooled mind you. HOMESCHOOLED and still got bullied at places like Sunday school at church for being chubby, slow and retarded.
No.300094
>>300093Why is there so much bullying in the West? Why don't parents discipline their children?
No.300095
>>300087> I won't really recommend suicide to anyone cause you're gonna die eventually and as you get older time speeds up I dont really understand. For me thats the biggest problem. I need to avoid the horror of a drawn out, painful, natural death. Modern medicine can torture you for many years and you can be stuck in a hospital with no means to achieve suicide
No.300096
>>300094You think it's better other places?
No.300098
>>300096Yup it's better in other places especially in countries with so called honor culture. Except Japan maybe. Indian wizanon talked about it earlier how bullies don't bully in India not because of goodness of their hearts but because there are consequences for bullying like ruined legal documentation that renders you ineligible for jobs, parents, and teachers who publicly beat you. There wasn't much bullying in Singapore either where I grew up.
No.300099
>>300094Because there no consequences for it and because normalfags are wild animals, and animals hate weakness on instictive level.
No.300151
>>300105
I looked up global suicide rates a couple weeks ago out of curiosity, and it turns out that South Korea is #1 and has been for years. I was a bit surprised by this so I did a little research on it. Basically, they have this insanely high pressure to succeed and compete against each other and the world, while also sacrificing their individuality in favor of mass-conformity. From birth, they're pushed to overperform, so schools are strict and overbearing which continues into the workplace, bullying (as you pointed out) is rampant at all ages, especially if you underperform or fail at something, and depression and anxiety are largely ignored as problems. Personal relationships are also given little consideration, being placed below professional success, money, and responsibility to the community, so loneliness is common there. Most of the suicides in South Korea are carried out by people who either crumble under the extreme pressures of their society, fail in their professional pursuits with little to no chance of recovery, or people who get relentlessly bullied for not rigidly conforming to SK's societal norms. Needless to say, all of those situations are also accompanied by severe feelings of loneliness, depression, anxiety, inferiority, and hopelessness. It's pretty brutal and though I never really cared about South Korea before, I genuinely feel sorry for them now.
No.300153
>>300151Have you been living under a rock or something? Or are you a beaner mutt who looked admiringly at Asia without realizing how soulless the bugs are?
No.300155
>>300153>Have you been living under a rock or something?As I said, I never cared about South Korea enough to pay attention to anything that happens there.
>Or are you a beaner mutt who looked admiringly at Asia without realizing how soulless the bugs are?At no point have I ever lived under the illusion that any part of Asia is some magical wonderland, nor have I said anything suggesting such a notion. I never said nor implied that South Korea wasn't a shitty place, I was only surprised that it was so bad as to have the highest suicide rate in the world.
If you're going to be needlessly antagonistic, you could at least practice some basic reading comprehension. You might look a little less foolish that way.
No.300156
>>300151You have to separate the elder suicide rates from the youth suicide rates in my opinion, they're entirely different things.
East Asians have massively high elder suicide rates. It skyrockets up after 80 and they're just ACKing like crazy. But from what I've read their general suicide rates outside of that are nothing unusual.
White people have their suicides cluster around 50 for some reason. Maoris, Indigenous Americans and Abos have high youth suicide rates.
Killing yourself at 80 is a different kettle of fish than killing yourself at 20.
No.300201
the thought of a neck snapping makes me queezy so ill probably do it by gunshot to the head
No.300239
>>300151And on top of that they have consription and circumcision.
Even more grim if you are man.
No.300240
>>300153>how soulless the bugs are?Normalfags in general are pretty souless, asian or not.
No.300267
I've begun to think of death not as something tragic, or a loss, but an opportunity for which exploration into new frontiers can be had.
It's a tremendous gamble, but if things go well, you find a new world, maybe a bit better, and start living in it, without all the drag of this one.
If things turn out bad, you're subjected to damnation forever, and hell is your eternal abode.
Some say they'll be nothing, pure blankness, eternal rest, but I don't think that's true, and my reason is because-
"The greater and worse between two evils is always preferred over the lesser"
Or put another way-
"If things can go bad, they'll go bad."
So therefore, hell must exist, as it's the worst case scenario to ever be, and complementarily, heaven must exist, for matter presents itself dually, then in addition, God must exist.
The alternative of slipping into eternal rest and dream is regrettably too optimistic, making me think atheism is a product of hope, in some twisted way.
Now the problem therefore is, the circumstances you find yourself here could well be reflective of the circumstances in the hereafter, as "the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer" is simply true, wherever you go, so then… I guess the 'refuse' in today's world are basically just cursed forever.
I haven't read this anywhere, but they say God shall answer all questions, which makes me wonder what the most frequent will be.
What, then, shall the refuse ask? Say, a man living as a tramp from birth, son of a prostitute, bastard, fatherless, thrown to the bogs from the first day, he turns up again in the next world as charcoal for fire, deprived of hope once more. Here, he's trash, and there, he's worse than trash.
That's not depressing anymore. There exists no language capable of describing such a miserable state of affair.
Sometimes, I think, when giving advise to someone whose 'erred', the best thing you can do is simply concretely give him the outcome otherwise afforded from his effort, as telling him to do so-and-so probably only enrages him, making the situation worse, as he thinks to himself - "I've tried everything they're suggesting, and nothing worked out." "Is there something wrong with me?" "Why do I keep failing, and everyone succeeds?"
Sad. Adam apparently had an argument with Moses once, within which he revealed the world exists in a state of determination and if that maintains, there's no point in trying to fight or claw, but simply exist, that the currents sweep you by, wherever they wish to carry you.
In my case, it led me to dropping out of High school, and taking drugs everyday, as I continue to relent from confronting the outside world, afraid of infecting it with my ugly self. Mom even said it herself - I'm sorry for giving birth to you. I mean, I'm the product of her cheating anyway, and I turned out incredibly, unfathomably disgusting, with a face and body uneven and incongruent in several ways. I have an extra pinkie too. I'm sure all these deformations are reflective of the bastardized preamble leading to me.
But why God? is my existence only being used in example of what not to do? Is that all I am?
In that case, humans are just cattle, entities for whom roles and labels can be subjected to at ease.
Satan was once one of God's greatest followers, you know. His envy at the progeny of Adam… some say is a sympathetic plight, yet sympathizing with the devil himself is likely sheer blasphemy. Striving and striving, soaring to the furthest of heights, a devil was allowed grace to the pavilion of heaven, and wanting to claim spot as 'best', was suddenly obstructed by a new, superior creation, for whom all were instructed to bow down to: Adam.
I don't involve myself in any social affair, but I think that 'motif'… replicates itself a lot. Far too much.
Just as the genius and talented defeats the hard worker despite the latter killing himself in hot pursuit toward his goal,
Just as the beautiful triumphs the ugly through no means other than simple existence, all preferring their statements and 'truth' over the latter,
Just as the crippled are secretly humiliated, the handicapped looked down on, the 'broken' nothing but a liability, those functional are deemed benefits.
Just as the cuck is the cuck, and the bull the bull.
Just as females will always have more value, societally, than males, and access to a stable life whatever the matter, as they will be pined for, loved, wanted for, despite the latter, the man, doing everything worthwhile..
Satan, for all his prayer, for all his effort, was to bow down to superior Adam, and rejecting, was consigned to a sure fate in hell.
The word of God is just.
The word of God cannot be overcome.
Your destiny foredestined, your losses and 'happiness', assuming you get any, carefully calculated, tabulated on the scripture somewhere behind the gates of the highest heaven.
It's all a theatre, a test, a game, and my acting role has been decreed as among the 'losers' whom the audience takes satisfaction jeering at.
I wish it wasn't so.
Like an abused dog, I can only run for so long before I get beaten once more, and throughout it all probably look for some way to escape, as anyway I'm brought back to death
No.300273
>>300267> atheism is a product of hope, in some twisted way.Indeed. It doesn't matter if there is heaven or hell for you, any continuation of existence unending is an ultimate torture. But as in plebian politics, most you're allowed to choose in Christian tradition is the decorations of your torment.
No.300274
I need a method without guns or hanging that can do me in with minimal survival with injuries.
No.300341
Any advice on what to write in a suicide letter? Should i leave one each for my family or just write one? Is it better to not leave one at all perhaps?
No.300342
All those posters against suicide are manipulated by kikes that want us to suffer in this hell which they helped to get even worse as long as possible
No.300344
>>300342I'm personally not one of the anti-suicide guys myself, I think the question of whether or not to end one's own life is purely a personal choice so I don't actually discuss it here often, but I find the anti-suicide group to be a mixed bag. It seems to be made up of two major groups: One is the 'optimistic' and 'caring' group, they say nice things and try to convince others not to end it and I think it comes from a good place and that they mean well. The other group is the group that dismisses people's grievances and attempts to shame people out of suicide, and I think this group is made up of kike-puppets and normalfag invaders. The one's who say dismissive statements like "you're overreacting", "suicide is pointless, so just live" or "suicide is selfish" etc. are just trying to shame and bully people out of making their own choices, which is actually fairly ridiculous when you consider that many who wish to kill themselves seek to do so
because they have been neglected, shamed, and bullied for most of their lives, as if doing more of the same will somehow make a difference. The first group, the well-meaning group, is alright. I don't necessarily agree with them, but I tolerate their presence here. The second group, the bully/kike group, is a collection of cretins that I genuinely despise.
I think the one thing that I will definitively say here in regards to my own eventual suicide is that I don't give a single solitary shit who tries to tell me otherwise, when I'm ready to die I'm going to fucking get on with it. My whole life has been filled with people trying to tell me what to do and how to live, and it's given me nothing but stress, depression, and misery. So when I put that gun to my head, I don't give a shit if God himself descends from the heavens to tell me 'don't do it' it wont matter. In fact, I'm going to tell him to go fuck himself just before I pull the trigger. I decide my own fate, no one else.
No.300345
>>300267the logic you're using to arrive at these conclusions are built atop pain, and pain often distorts reality. Pain doesn’t make your insights less intelligent, it makes them dangerously convincing.
You reason from what youve known: abandonment, rejection, deformity, judgment, and loss. You’ve seen the world’s cruelty and found no reason not to believe it reflects the structure of the universe itself.
Yet even if you are convinced hell is the likeliest reality, that doesn’t prove it is. Probability isn’t truth. And the pain you carry, which tries to assure you that you’re meant for destruction, is playing games with your mind.
No.300346
>>300341just leave something so brief and straight to the point.
No.300352
I just ordered my SN. Hope it’s of fine quality and will arrive safely. I’m really done with having had consciousness.
No.300355
>>300352you really assume death is the end of consciousness?
are you willing to bet everything on that assumption?
No.300357
>>300355Bet what? It's a gamble, sure, but if consciousness can be get rid of, there is a potential for infinite improvement. And if not, it doesn't matter anyway - any eternity of self-awareness is torture, no matter the decorations.
No.300420
thinking about shooting myself in the head during break at work, there would be about 30-40 people who would see it
No.300421
I have my rope and all but the survival instinct is so much fucking harder than what i expected. I feel like puking when i put it around my neck. This is truly horror
No.300422
if i go to san francisco or some other usa city can you just buy fentanyl of some niggers? or a gun? or they wont deal with a random white boy and will just rob you?
No.300429
>>300421seems like the entirety of you, does not actually want to die.
and that there is just one part in you, that seems to want to die.
that same part also worries of your financial future, or better life circumstances, or hates specific features of yourself.
it feels a need to change at one time, or a need to die at another.
it tortures you every day.
why not kill just that one part in you?
No.300430
>>300421Narcotic + Barbituric = instant painless death
yet society decides that is better to waste millions on mentally ill people trying to keep them alive as much as possible in some mental hospital or ugly hospice
No.300604
fuck it. im done. im either going out by handgun or exit bag. either way ill die so i dont give a fuck how im going to do it. im tired, im fucking tired. i have no plans, no aspirations, all i want to do is to kill myself. i dont know when ill do it, but im going to be gone. fuck this
No.300607
>>300429I don't think this kind of post is helpful, because it minimizes the problems that person is facing. It's basically saying, "hey, why not just solve your problems instead of killing yourself?" Suicide only becomes an appealing option when one feels their problems are impossible to overcome. If it were so simple for someone to "just kill that one part in you", don't you think they would have tried that before tying a noose around their neck?
No.300608
>>300607>when one feels their problems are impossible to overcomeAnd a lot of these feelings of helplessness are misguided, reactionary, impulsive, or themselves driven by factors such as health and nutrition.
>If it were so simple for someone to "just kill that one part in you", don't you think they would have tried that before tying a noose around their neck?Not if they had people online convince them not to try it, of which there seems to be many here (you included).
No.300609
>>300608>Not if they had people online convince them not to try it, of which there seems to be many here (you included).It's interesting how much the locus of control has suddenly shifted. In your first post he's framed as totally responsible for his own feelings, and "just" needs to kill the evil inside him. Simply solve his own problems, try a new diet, it's easy. Now suddenly once you've identified that I'm actually evil it's a larger problem and he's a victim (of me, or of this website). He would solve his problems, if only I wasn't in the way stopping him by criticizing your posts.
No.300610
>>300609I'm
>>300608 and that is my only post ITT. I tried to make sense of your reply by reading up the reply chain but I really can't figure out why you typed what you did.
No.300611
>>300610Don’t worry about it, I’m just another mental case rambling in the asylum. I just get annoyed at self help style advice sometimes and felt like you were moralizing against me for going against it. It comes from a lifetime of being suicidal and hearing the similar things while at the same time there is no real help available. What you said about suicidal thoughts is often true, but I.ve heard similar things from many people with no love for me, when what they really meant was “stop complaining and being a burden on others, get back to work”
No.300644
Any good jumping spots recommended in new south wales?
No.300662
I wanna be dead but I hate the idea of a useless or stupid death. Can't think of an honorable way to die, because none of the usual occupations where that's a thing would hire such a batshit insane person like me. Maybe I could become a fisherman and die trying to save me mateys at sea, I like the sound of that
No.300716
I live in constant physical pain I don't know how to make it stop, hypothetically I could jump from the sixth floor, I hate the human body
No.300718
>>300716observe your wish to make it stop - the thoughts surrounding it.
detach from them.
become the observer of both the pain, and the thoughts of wanting the pain to stop.
No.300719
>>300718My hypochondriac instinct makes it difficult not to worry every time I have pain
No.300720
>>300719try meditation, it helps distance yourself from it, just enough for you to be able to observe the thoughts, as well as that instinct.
you do not need to be desciplined for meditation, and strained effort is unneeded. just find yourself doing what you are already doing, but do the things consciously.
you are ALWAYS already breathing, so start - without adding more effort - to breathe "manually" - consciously.
from outward appearance, no one would be able to tell whether you are breathing unconsciously (deep in thoughts) or consciously, and the switch is invisible as well, to anyone but you.
look at the things you're already looking at, but consciously.
let thoughts exist parallel to these conscious actions.
add observation of how your chair feels under your butt, or how your feet feel on the ground.
let these sensations live parallel to your thoughts.
rotate observation and conscious effort. make it a challenge to sense all and do all at once, but start small.
No.300721
>>300719Constant pain can be interesting observation. If you observe it, try to understand it, you can find a way to accept it and be okay with it, but also - explore it's depths. I don't bother with dentals, since feeling teeth rot can be so entertaining. Eventually they stop anyway, so it's only temporary distraction.
No.301593
Hey wizzies, I got a cheap, accessible, and high success rate method for you
Long Drop Hanging
Get a tow rope from harbor freight, autozone, etc. terminated with a loop at both ends. Get one with at least a thousand or two lb strength, to account for the shock force. $15-$30 depending on length (see below) and location. I'm using the 20ft 6000lb recovery strap from harbor freight.
Find a high place with something strong you can anchor the rope to (rock, concrete pillar, sturdy tree trunk, etc). Choose the anchor carefully as there will be a lot of force on it. Make sure the length of the rope will leave you above the ground at the bottom.
Loop the rope around the anchor and pull the other end through and tight, then push the loop at the free end back over itself to make a loose noose.
Put the noose around your neck, tighten, and jump. Anecdotally it may be more effective if the knot is in the front or side of your neck vs the back.
Thaf's it. Old execution manuals used complicated tables to compute how high the drop should be to avoid decapitation but still break the neck, and numbers were in the 7-9ft range, so I suggest overshooting that with a 20-30ft rope, especially after using a few feet for fastening it. You should probably plan for decapitation to ensure success. If you care that much about family, first responders, etc. you're still too attached to this world to follow through.
Benefits: backup of a drop if the rope/anchor fails, cheap (vs eg gun), plausibly deniable materials (vs eg inert gas)
Drawbacks: more difficult site selection than fall from height due to anchor requirements, not free, can't be done inside house, messier body than poisons
Stay tuned for results when I test it later.
No.301594
>>301593In lieu of a livestream, check the obits in Charlotte, NC for Liam Roeth.
I'll be sure to post again if it doesn't work, so that there's a negative confirmation signal as well as positive
yes yes, I shouldn't be posting here, but I thought the datapoint would be appreciated No.301601
>>301593useful post, thanks
No.301620
Will a belt around the neck kill me fast or will I be able to undo it?
No.301621
>>301620There is no easy suicide. Just keep living.
No.301622
>>301621I'm dying and am not being given access to euthanasia and don't want the pain to continue
No.301629
>>301620belt might not hold your weight. ropes are rated with weights like "max 100kg". Get one at least rated HIGHER than your body weight. Research how to tie knots and hanging places for suicide and ask yourself if you want to do short drop or suspension hanging. you can find pics of succesful hangings on gore sites. fuck this world
No.301630
>>301621There is, but society makes it hard because "life is precious" and all that pro-life bullshit filled with pro-psychiatry propaganda.
No.301631
>>301630It is human nature, and even a common trend of beings with minds to protect human minds.
No.301632
>>301631It makes absolutely no sense to protect the life of someone that wants to die
No.301633
>>301632No one really wants to die. What suicidal people really want is to free themselves from the source of their suffering. They see no other way to end the suffering, but to end life altogether. There might be another way out of the suffering, but they don't see it.
No.301647
>>301633I crave nonexistence
No.301658
>>296511fent od is best way if youre in usa