No.296607
People are of course just horrible and unable to understand. "Laziness", depressions, lack of energy, lack of motivation etc. are all obviously consequences of other things that have happened such as bad parenting and bad genetics
No.296609
i wouldn't moralize it, but depression is definitely a choice, albeit somewhat unconscious. there's an internal calculation going that basically tells you giving up on reality is the best you can do for now. until the circumstances change or you find a way to see things differently, shifting the equation in a direction that results in positive action, you're basically stuck in limbo.
depression is definitely bitter sweet. there is a sick enjoyment in it if you're being honest with yourself. yes, you're "miserable" but you're exchanging these negative emotions for something much worse. staying in bed and ruminating is much preferable to going outside in the world, doing something meaningless that's forced upon you or playing a game that you know is impossible to "win".
ultimately, it's just a reaction to your circumstances. you shut down, because the alternative just seems worse to you, whatever "normalcy" or "well-adjustedness" people are pushing on you. despite the misery, you'd rather stay depressed than give them what they want.
No.296615
On the other hand, there are people who seem to remain happy in any circumstances. Many of them are shallow people who give advice like "just smile and you'll feel better :)" or "just pretend you're having fun until you feel it :)"
No.296622
I think that depression is more of a by-product of worldviews that promote meaningless in life. The logical conclusion in such worldviews is to kill yourself.
It's another topic whether or not these worldviews are even justifiable in the first place.
No.296648
if by morals you mean partaking in the solidarity of society morals are a spook that nobody abides by but everybody uses to shame others with. if I had enough financial and psychological foundation to remain a weight on the back of societal filth without having to deal with it I'd 100% do that. it's not even an extreme position. everyone knows it's far better to do that since all they dream about is early retirement and a home in the middle of nowhere.