/dep/ - Depression

Atheists are just mentally lazy, they just accept the easy answer that there is nothing more than meat and all of this is random and meaningless
>the universe was created from the big bang
and before that?
>uhh nothing lol
Let's go with that, doesn't the emergence of something out of nothing prove that there is more than this universe?

>>296640
>god created the universe
and before that? who created god?
>uhh nothing lol

>>296641
yes, many believers have conditioned themselves not to think about the possibility of something above god

>>296640
atheism is the logical answer to the cold and miserable world we live in

>>296641
Can I barge in and say that God is quite literally nothingness? You might ask how something can come from nothing but the fact that we’re here at all in the first place proves that it’s possible. Many philosophers say that it’s not possible for nothing to exist and that something will always arise.

We must collectively put an end to this bad habit of personification. God is a “what,” not a “who”. All I’m asking now is that you make sure you don’t develop a survivorship bias when thinking about how fine-tuned the universe is.

>>296668

I want to further expand on this idea by bringing to your attention that nothingness or non-existence shares the same aspects as God (at least from monotheistic viewpoints).
It is eternal, meaning it has no beginning and no end. It is also infinite, which should be self-explanatory. It is limitless and unbound, and it paradoxically contains everything despite being nothing. Additionally, many religions, notably Christianity, state that any man who would view God’s face shall surely die. Think about this from a different perspective: you must be something to know anything at all, and to know nothingness (that unknowable thing¹) one must reduce oneself to nothing, therefore losing the ability to know anything.

¹It is human nature to fear the unknown, what lies beyond death (nothingness) is unknown and unknowable, therefore it frightens us despite being unknown.

God can be seen as an infinite chaos, and this answers the question as to how we got here, but now how that’s possible. Let me explain, if nothingness contains limitless potential, then anything can come from it. I suppose an infinite number of universes can arise from this infinite void but there will never be an infinite number of simultaneous universes (obviously).
Furthermore, my guess is that some inchoate particle, perhaps something as simple as a vibration, came from this void like a fragment (although this void can’t actually fragment), and then the singularity occurred… somehow getting us to where we are today. It is not an extensive or convoluted explanation, maybe not even one that makes sense, but it’s trying to make sense of it all.

God could still exist, but it wouldn’t necessarily be the Whole, rather a created entity that exists beyond our universe (time and space) but not on the same level as the Whole, therefore we’re met with a hierarchy of sorts. It’s all speculative so whatever.

Anyway… look around and realise we live in a simulation no matter what standpoint you take, existence is an artificiality. Non-existence is paradoxically reality and God and everything and more(?). Try to achieve moksha, I guess.

TLDR - From nothing we came and to nothing we shall return.

on that buu pack

I've always thought Dragon Ball villians are hilariously fucked up if you stop to think about them and what they might look like if they were real, especially Buu.

>>296702
Oh yeah Dragon Ball was gruesome for a kid who would analyze things too much. I remember Buu could turn people into chocolate, imagine that happening to you. Would you maintain your consciousness in that state? Could you feel someone eating you? The horror!