/dep/ - Depression

>>297677
Look at it this way - normalfags are controllable cattle driven by animalistic instincts. You know this, and so do the Jews, except Jews call this kind goyim instead of normalfags. Jews taking over the media and spreading degeneration affects only the normalfags. You are left as you were, you don't have to consume the same goyslop as the goyim consume. And do not be fooled, the normalfags were just as retarded and promiscuous before this, as they are now, only then they kept their behaviour hidden, and now they are open about it. So it's actually good that the goyim signal their degeneracy because now you can easily spot and disregard them.

>>297657
There are several grocery stores within like 5 minute walk, even though im in a small city. I can just carry it and walk easily. Most people go several times a week instead of doing one big shopping trip like in more americanised countries. But despite that, these days i still just get groceries delivered to my door because it costs almost the same

>>297654
1) fuck you
2) ill have you know i am white and have european genetics

>>297681
>But despite that, these days i still just get groceries delivered to my door because it costs almost the same
nice you can become a hikikomori

I know rare but I am interested if there are any wizards from USA who don't have a licence. I have heard that every job in the United States (whether the job itself is car related or not) requires a driving licence. Must be incredibly hard for those who don't have a driving licence there.

I never felt the need to get a license growing up in a big walkable european city with a dense public transport infrastructure.

Nevertheless everyone but me got a license at 18 and I didn't and I see it as another sign how exceptionally inept and stuck in arrested development I am.

It's not seen as anything special with even the dumbest people having one but for me it feels impossible. I can't picture myself navigating this big car through the dense traffic and narrow roads of a city where you have to constantly watch out for people.

>Can you drive?
No
>Can you parallel park?
No
>Can you survive without parallel parking where you live?
Yes
>If you don't drive then how do you get by in the country you live in?
I walk or bike
>Do you feel unmanly if you can't/don't drive?
No, because walking and cycling are healthier
>How does one cope knowing that foids can drive while you don't?
I don't cope, because I don't need to.

>>297720
Where do you live?

>>297444
I learned how to drive pretty late but I don't think I'm bad at it, so I don't feel too deficient :P
I'm also so unsocial this point I don't really think of anything in terms of manly/unmanly, and thus feel unbothered.

>>297715
American here. The majority of my old friends didn't drive to their first job, they either walked or took public transport. I used an electric bike to get to my first one. As long as you live in a city I think you can see plenty of young people who don't drive to work because they can't afford a car yet. Having the option to drive is still frequently preferable when because you have a wide sphere of job options to choose from. I can't say anything about more rural areas.

I can drive but I dislike driving. Makes me feel inept that don't have a car or drive. Public transport is OK here and I barely go anywhere so.

I can but I don't like it. normscum are as aggressive and unruly in their cars as they are in real life. I would have to be one of the very few people on the road for this activity to be truly enjoyable for me.

i feel like every car that comes within a few metres to me is a social event with difficult social rules communicated by subtle movements. The slightest mistake can lead to death. I dont understand how normal people with 100 IQ or lower can do it so easily

>>297730
yeah i get those worries too, like when a car drives towards me i can imagine it suddenly turning into me, and i get shivers
i understand its just paranoia though, its not rational to be afraid of this happening

most people, myself include, drive sort of unconsciously, by muscle memory
the car becomes an extension of your body and you dont even think about what how to drive, you just use that car like you use your hands or legs
its like you can "speak" with your fingers through a keyboard if you're used to typing, dont even need to look at the keys

>>297731
>its not rational to be afraid of this happening
But it is rational. Horrific crashes happen all the time. I know someone who died in one, i was once a passenger in a car when the driver almost ran over a child, and i have already crashed once myself. Driving is incredibly dangerous, and especially so for me because i have so much anxiety and bad spacial awareness, so i just shouldnt do it

>Can you drive?
Yes
>Can you parallel park?
Yes, just reverse in.
>Can you survive without parallel parking where you live?
No
>How does one cope knowing that foids can drive while you don't?
Get a license, it's piss easy, as you said, even succubi can drive.

Driving a car sucks, it's boring and you're perpetually stuck in traffic. Get a motorcycle, cheaper and more fun.
Get a license and motorcycle, nothing makes you derealise like driving aimlessly at night.

>>297738
How do I calculate whether I'd be able to fit in a parking spot when it comes to parallel parking.
I struggle with parallel parking and reverse bay-in parking. How long would it take to learn parallel parking and the kind of reverse bay-in parking shown in the video? I have been driving for 4 years. Do you live in a city like NYC? And am worried that I wouldn't be able to get a licence in a country like Germany. It's my dream to drive on autobahn.

>>297738
How do you manage to drive in the night? I have a low slung sedan and the lights from SUVs pierce my eyes. And sometimes when they are on low beam. When I flash my light at them the faggots then turn on the high beam blinding me even more. I have no vision issues diagnosed but what do you guys think do I have vision issues?

>>297759
Hmmm, sounds like you suffer from one of these extremely rare diseases. They are so little known, that you are unlikely to get it diagnosed though, especially if you live in one of those shitholes like India. I would advise you stop driving lest you die in a car crash and not cute gf will look at your mangled face.

>>297761
Yeah, I try to avoid driving in the night but my father insists that the more I drive in the night the better I'll get at it, surprisingly my father is pretty good at driving in the night even when being absolutely blinded, I guess parents exhaust all their ability before they pass on their genes lol

>>297758
PS: I think the Chinese might just be the best drivers of all time, I have been watching Chinese "parking in the yard" videos like the vidrel recently, and even their succubi are pretty good at it, I have also been analysing street view in Germany and seeing so many people parallel park huge vans. I just don't understand why I am the odd one out and can't do these things properly despite driving for 4 years. It's quite bad, sadly where I live there is no place to practice, and I don't even have the money to buy cones to practice, and I would have to buy a lot of cones to replicate that yard, I wish I had a parking yard to myself with cars lol, I would spend my whole day learning how to park, its so weird it feels like there is something 'pending' until I don't fully learn how to park like this, it's unreal how much I obsess over parking, more so tha crabs do over succubi, I just hope I manage to become a pro at these kinds of reverse bay-in parking and parallel parking, these are my only wishes.

>>297763
Trust me anon. I live in Germany and tons of people suck at parking. Half the time I look for a parking lot some retarded boomer is taking up 1.5 lots with his crossover suv he doesn't need.

>>297764
>crossover suv
I'm tired to see these cars everywhere in western europe and tesla too

>>297765
same
SUVs are the worst thing that happened to cars
cars produced after 2000-2005 generally aren't worth attention
they're made for retards who sue the manufacturer for crash injuries because they were too stupid to wear the seatbelt, and now cars have annoying fucking beepers to remind you of the seatbelt
and don't get me started on how fucking ugly these cars are, i could write a book shitting on every little detail of modern cars

okay, time to calm down…

>>297758
Okay, now I want to learn how to reverse park like this. Has anyone here done this kind of thing shown in the video? I feel like this only happens in East Asia.

>>297767
yeah all the time
it only looks impressive because its sped up
with enough time you could do it to

i feel like like 90% of you "bad drivers", your problems stem from angry tuk tuk drivers and honking normonkeys who rush you, so you try to do it quickly
just relax, take your time, try as many times as you need, and you'll do fine

>>297768
This is true. Most drivers keep honking incessantly it puts me into a lot of pressure. I will try keeping my composure. Although I would say that Audi A8 parking in the video is still impressive even though it's sped up (Maybe not for you as you are already good at it). Btw I don't get much chances to park like this any idea how I should practice? I am trying to find a free and open space (challenging in India) and using some cones but they are still kinda expensive for some reason even though it's just plastic. So what can I do in the meantime? Is there some other way or is there ultimately no remedy except practice?

I have some more questions too like, when you try to do reverse bay in parking the corner of your car or the rear left part of the rear is more likely to touch the other car? How can it be gauged through camera? Given that camera is usually in the middle of the rear of the car.

And while parallel parking how do I know it's safe to turn inside without hitting the bonnet of my car in the front car. I don't know accurately where my bonnet ends as when I drive I usually keep a margin of 2 ft. and that margin while helpful in traffic and avoiding accidents can be a pain in the ass when you try to turn in or make a manoeuvre in situations which depends on accuracy. So how do I accurately gauge it?

And lastly how the hell did people use to reverse and see thing like low heighted walls and other things that are not visible through the rear windshield when you get close enough when there weren't any rear view cameras?

>>297766
My mom (blessedly I live at home) got some crossover ev electric car as a work car. I shit you not the only interface is some retarded touch screen, EVERY TIME you enter the car you have to go into some submenu to turn off the "automatic lane keep" (aka I'm gonna jerk you back into lane if you even breathe on the markings funny), "driver attention" (aka the infrared scanner that looks at your face constantly and beeps at you if you look out the window a bit too long) and "speed warning" that will beep at you if you even go 1km/h above the limit (and btw it doesn't read the signs it just takes the latest speed limit it has in its database and sometimes it's outdated).
I fucking hate this retarded shit.

>>297766
>and don't get me started on how fucking ugly these cars are,
lol I would read that. also those who drive suvs…are they assholes?

In addition to this >>297771, I have some other questions as well, like when you are turning and trying to reverse between two cars, and you see the mirror and the car parked in it, how do you know how far away the boot of your car is from the parked car when you're seeing it in the mirror?

And the same goes for the lines, like when you see lines on the ground while doing a reverse bay-in parking and see the lines in your side mirrors, how do you really know how far away the line really is while looking in the mirror, I can't seem to gauge it correctly, and have been driving for 4 years. Would you say that I should give up driving or is there something intrinsically wrong with me?

Sorry, English isn't my first language so I am unable to explain my question well, ask me to re-explain and I will try using ChatGPT's help to better elaborate my points.
PS: I know on /wiz/ there was a taxi driver here maybe he can answer my question.

Man this is getting beyond emasculating. I tried to parallel park today but I got it right only after a few tries and I had to get out and physically look whether I can turn in or not.

While a rear cam solves a lot of problems.
I have three questions, I'll be glad if someone could answer them.
A) We know that we're supposed to: (i) turn 45°
(ii) then turn wheels straight
(iii) and then turn wheels again in the opposite direction compared to original.
So in during the second step how to get an idea how close the back wheel of thr car is to the kerb and when are ready to do step (iii)?

B) While doing step (iii), how to know that whether your car's front corner is going to rub against the car in the front?

C) While sitting in the car, how to judge whether that spot is big enough for your car not?

>>297444
It's all about geometry
>put your car as close as possible to the one which is going to be in your front
>turn wheels to right fully
>select "reverse"
>go slowly, until getting an angle of 30º or 40º
>stop
>turn wheels fully to the other side
>backwards again, slowly
Practice makes mastery. You must get yourself used to the previous distance you need to be from the other car (closer side to side, a bit behind or the opposite, the angle when you change wheels orientation), it is basically two moves, both with wheels fully turned.
>practice makes mastery

My mom doesn't let me drive her car, probably because i'm too autistic and failed the drive licence exam twice, but even if i could, i'd still feel like a baby that needs parents permission to do anything.

>>298008
>>298009
Thanks for taking the time to reply. With regards to the steps in the photo where you're parking to the right. Even after a lot of practicing I always end up either on the kerb or either too far to the kerb. This is the hardest part. How do I know when to go for the final turn even the side mirrors of the car don't properly show the distance between rear left/right wheels and the kerb. Btw let me know if you're able to understand what I am asking as my English is crappy so I apologise for that.

And hell, I can't even get the first part right which is to see a gap and be able to judge whether I would manage to park in it or not? How do I practice for that and improve my judgement?

>>298014
Basically I am unable to judge the distance in blue when backing in after completing my (first) 45° move before finally tucking in the front. And I can't seem to gauge in side mirror how close the kerb is to my car's left wheel. So how do I figure that out? And ofc if the space is big enough to park in the first place.

>>298014
You cannot sense the distance with accuracy. Only changing parameters and trying different combinations you can find the accurate one:
>being a bit forward or a bit more backed than the blue car, rather than at its same length
>trying different angles for the moment of changing wheel direction

The side mirror should be focusing more of the floor. Also, driving schools recommend you to step down the car and get back in for better checking.

The blue distance is not judged, you just try and try… after many times your memory and intuition should do the job.

>>298016
isn't that like learning anything?
you just repeat it over and over until your brain unconsciously develops the circuitry that works

I can drive, manual even.
I can parallel park if space is not too tight.
I could if I really needed too but fuck paying and walking extra for parking.
I can drive but I don't own a car, I live in Mexico City. Public transport is excellent in terms of coverage and distribution despite the buses and drivers themselves being awful. Our subway, or metro is amazing, super cheap and quick. Never left my state though.
I don't really care nor think less of someone if they can't. Actually I think that driving anxiety is a valid reason to not drive here specifically and I'd imagine the same happens with other large cities like New York or Moscow, driving culture in such a congested city is like a jungle, you really need a lot of visual contact with other drivers and a lot of aggressivity to make your way through. If someone doesn't want to put up with that it's fine.
Foids can drive, but zoomers can't. I don't care much about that.

The cars I drove were all subcompact class with their axles pretty much on each longitudinal end, dunno how to explain it but it's like they had no hood and no trunk. They had them of course but they weren't hanging like they would in a large sedan like a Crown Victoria. So they were easy to park. Anything bigger I wouldn't be able to judge space correctly.

>>298016
I see. The first ten times I tried, by the end of it I was still unable to gauge that distance where I should start for the final tuck in of the front. I just hope and pray that it's something that I can learn and not something that I am unable of.

I do point my mirrors downwards when I start reversing. I talked about this with some of my family members as well. And it was a bit frustrating to know that they could just gauge the distance in the question by just looking at the side mirrors and that they "just know it" while I struggle with it.

I will do as you say though and keep practicing and hopefully I would be able to work it out of it anything discuss some reference points. Also let me know if you have any tips on how I can figure out if the space between two cars is enough to park in the first place.

>>298021
I learned and have only driven manual as well cause they are cheap and easy to maintain. I do drive a sedan though and you're right, I have to be extremely mindful of how the boot of the car and the hood of the car swings so to speak.

I have another question. When parallel parking, how do you judge how far behind the rear parked car is from the boot of your car without camera. I mean people have been doing parallel parking for years, how do they manage to judge this?

Or same goes while parking when you pull inside a slot in reverse, like how do you judge how far you're from the kerb, bushes, or the car parked behind, given that it's bonnet is below the boot of your car and you can't see the rear parked car's bonnet or the kerb or bushes from your rear windshield. How the heck did people manage to do this without cameras?

>>298111
>try to park in
>cant see shit
>get out of the car
>walk around and notice the distance
>get back in
>park in
>if not sure repeat the process
alternative is having someone to look while you park and giving you hand signals.

>>298112
That is how I park for now, while this is better than hitting someone's car (and risk being beaten by the other car's owner), this process is kind of embarassing because other people manage to do it without stepping outside their cars. Any ideas on how I can get good at this?
Btw, thanks for replying, I really appreciate it.

>>298113
eventually if you do it often enough you will be much better at judging the distance and wont need to get out that often anymore. the car at some point becomes like an extension of the body.
>is kind of embarassing
thats like just in your head dude. being careful is not a bad thing. if I saw some guy parking in like this next to my car I wouldnt think hes retarded, I'd think what a careful intelligent man that cares about his things and the things of others.

>>298114
The problem is that I've been driving the same car over past 4 years. And while I have no problem in driving in front or even in traffic. I even feel like I have gotten better over last 4 years when it comes to driving in the front but when it comes to reversing and understanding how far things are in the back, I literally feel like I am as blind as I was on day one of driving. It's just so hard to look back out of rear window and barely see anything or look at side mirrors and judge distances accurately tbf I don't even know how to practice for it. And then there is doing it in the night as well where barely anything is visible or you're blinded by the lights in the side mirror.

I think I have figured out what my problem exactly is, the problem is that I can't judge distances in the rear with enough precision using my side mirrors, that is what my problem is.

Not only does it not help while doing this >>298015 but there is another unique scenario where this causes problem consider this you've got to do a u-turn on a road which is not wide enough to do a complete u-turn in just one try, so you have to reverse a bit and then turn it again.

Now, consider this photo here, a guy has to take a u-turn but the road isn't big enough to take a u-turn in one time, so the guy (blue) has to reverse, but turns out a guy in the red has already stopped to close to the guy. So the guy in the blue has very limited room to reverse.

So the question becomes how does the guy judges the distance between his car and the car in the red using his side mirror, the distance is indicated by green colour.

Last time, I was in this scenario where I had to take a u-turn, I ended up bumping into the red car and almost got lynched by the public as I bumped into a stationary car.

So what can I do to avoid it, just by using my side mirrors, how do I accurately manage to judge the distance in green?

>>298115
maybe you should get a different car, some cars are build like that that you have poor visibility and all kinds of retarded blindspots, the mirrors are shitty, seat too low etc.
my first car was a huge mini van but I was sitting up high in there with huge windows and large mirrors and had good visibility so I never had a problem parking it anywhere even in somewhat tight spots.
when I later sold it I had gotten a station wagon and in there I was sitting low and had poor visibility and I fucked up the bumper and the paint multiple times.
and this was all before parking sensors and cameras and all this shit and if you have that in there then parking is basically automated piss easy mode and you know the distance by listening to beep sounds. some cars can even park automatically I heard.

>>298119
>just by using my side mirrors
you are supposed to turn your entire upper body and head around and judge the distance that way. not just look at the mirrors.

>>297444
I live in a rural area which means I have to drive to get anywhere. There's no need to parallel park, though. When I did that section on my driving test I bumped into one of the cones, but I was still able to pass. I've never had to do it outside of the test, thankfully. If I were in a situation where parallel parking were needed, I'd drive somewhere else and park a mile away if I had to. I'm bad at backing into a parking space as well, and I won't do it unless there are no other cars nearby.

>>298119
I used to drive for a living, if you do the same shit every day it becomes like second nature, just do the same shit over and over again and your subconscious will automatically do it for you eventually

>>298129
I primarily drive two cars, a hatchback and a sedan. And I can't gauge distances in the rear using just side mirrors in both of them, so I thought that the problem is with me, the thing is both of my cars don't have a rear view camera or sensors, so I have to do it only visually, I can judge distances in the rear using side mirrors only when the disparity in distances are huge.

Like when I have to reverse let's say towards a bush/kerb in a parking lot, I generally stop 3.5feet away from the bush/kerb looking in the side mirror, any closer than that and I can't judge the distances accurately, and when there is a situation like this, the rear windshield is essentially useless and turning back doesn't help either.

And this is the problem that I described here >>298119 while making a u-turn and >>298014 while parallel parking.

>>298130
Well doing that in the case of the u-turn situation that I describe, the red car's hood dips below my door windows and the C-pillar get's in the way of view. And in the case of parallel parking the kerb is also below the car's door's windows so you have to rely on mirrors.

And the thing is, I believe that the parallel parking situation can't even be solved by rear cameras and sensors because it only helps to aid you in how far away you're from the car in the rear but doesn't tell you when to turn in such that you don't end up too far away from the kerb or on the kerb.

>>298131
I have the same problems but live in a city so there is no option for me but to learn.

>>298132
The things is I have been driving a lot for past 4 years, and I have gotten better at judging distances, like for example you can't see the tip of the hood/bonnet but now I know where it is because of experience over the last 4 years, but when it comes to the issues that I described, would you mind taking a read and suggesting some sort of remedy? Because no matter what I do and how much I do it, I just can't judge distances accurately with the side mirrors, and I just feel like I am as blind today as I was on the first day of starting to drive, it's like I have not made any progress at all.