/dep/ - Depression★

>>298267
I guess he's asking how to become a wiz.

>>298266 (OP)
> How do you get used to a life so lonely?
You never really do.
>How did you made peace with that?
they become apathetic or too weak to change things.

Thing is, you're passive and do nothing about you situation you remain in the same place where you started.
See it as those people who held one job for their entire lifetime or live in the same house for the rest of their lives, etc.

Hell no, i love being celibate. The God divinity you can unlock with semen retention. I feel amazing , best decision i made giving up lust. Try it.

when i'm alone, i'm fine and quite content. but among other people, i can't help but feel some kind of shame/guilt about not being "normal" even though i don't want a normal lifestyle, i don't want friends or the responsibility of raising children or to be respected for my status or money. it's just a feeling of general inferiority that i can't shake off and that creates this unpleasant inner conflict where you torn apart by two forces, none of which promise any kind of satisfaction or resolution.

it only goes away when i can quiet my thoughts in solitude, so now i try to organize my life in such a way as to maximize solitude and find joy in solitary hobbies and pursuits. if i could go live up in the mountains in a nice winter cabin with a nice view, that'd be the ideal, but of course i am still reliant on things for society, like electricity, food, entertainment… there doesn't seem to be a way to win, you're always sacrificing something in the end. anyway, it is what it is.

Nobody's lives go exactly how they wish - we will wish we were smarter, healthier, richer. This is a more general problem, one for all humans, that you are really struggling with. All people must accept that bad things happen to them and their life doesn't satisfy all their dreams. In general you must try to forecast the future and take actions that will improve your life: that is, figure out what you want and how to maximise the chances of getting it. Transform your suffering into a decisive rational decision so you can move past forward, accept your life situation and know how to move forward.

You want certain things and therefore you should either try to get them or give up on them if you think they aren't worth the effort. Or accept that it might happen or it might not: everyone has to live with uncertainty about their future. Unnecessary suffering can be gone if you can deeply understand this.

>There was also a post by disgusting shitskinned pajeet over how he can't have sex cause his dick is up his ass
What a disgusting way to talk to someone opening up about their problems, normie. I made that post for other reasons on how to better myself that at least I would feel just as capable as other men. If wizards here were given a chance to have sex and ascend, a lot of them here would do a 180 and take it, however if I was given a chance to do it, I would blow that too. And end up in a position where neither I would lose my virginity and nor would I be a wizard. I didn't make that post because I wanna have sex, I just made that post to know if there are way that I can become capable of it and that it would help with my psychological and overall wellbeing and help me make me feel better about myself, but dicks like you on the internet do all to destroy someone's self confidence, I don't have a problem if someone says that what Indians do is not right or whatever but I do have a problem on blaming and making someone ashamed for things they have no control over.

Just to be clear jannies and admin, I don't wanna have any real sexual/romantic experience in the future cause I am incapable of it anyway.

Yes for sure

>how do you cope with this?
by escaping, isolating myself in my room, a little part of the world where none of the normie stuff matters
and outside? well, all I can do is endure… avoid and minimize contact with normalfags to only what is absolutely necessary, because my actions and my words, especially my words, can only make things worse for myself

>>298266 (OP)
>and the thing is people do wanna talk about it here.
You're right! Sex obsessed crabs do want to pout and whine about >no gf on literally every forum or board they visit. That's why Wizchan decided to ban discussion of such topics!
>The fact of the matter is that most of us are miserable.
On /dep/, maybe.

>I want to know genuinely if there are any real wizards who have moved beyond this.
Yep! Plenty of us here. Of course, the only time we need to mention how "OK" we are with being alone is when newfriends such as yourself ask if we exist. To which, naturally, closet crabs crawl up from the abyss the call us liars and try to pull us back down to their level.
>How did you really do it? How do you get used to a life so lonely?
In a world with the hundred or so million humans that it can naturally sustain, aloneness is the default state. When your wives and daughters are so likely to die during childbirth, be taken or killed by other men, or prove themselves to no longer be fit to cohabitate with, the aloneness returns again. It is inevitable, natural, normal. Constant female companionship is a side effect modern civilization, and we didn't suddenly evolve to be dependent on it.
>How did you made peace with that? Do none of you ever had the desire of having a kid who looks up to you.
"It could be fun, but raising a child would detract from my own adventures and areas of study that I can only enjoy as a single man. Luckily these nice anime succubi can fill my instinctual needs to dote over and endear the company of a youth"
>Or a wife who will actually be on your side till your deathbed.
Good luck. There are many fish in the sea but most of them are already the kind of chum that only bottom-feeding crabs would consider worth the effort. The average loyalty of modern men and succubi alike makes the idea dying besides loved-ones something that must be prayed for. Would it be nice? I'm sure that when I'm clenching my gun, bleeding out in some frozen trench that I will consider how nice it would be to rather die gracefully surrounded by those who care for me. But to aim for and work to have that experience - to prepare for your moment of expiration for your entire life - to demand your passing be a spectacle for all you care for to witness - that is truly morbid. Old cats, elephants, ravens, crows, and wolves… They will seek solitude when it is their time to pass. It's practical for the herd and for the withering being. No fuss, no fireworks. Just quite lonesome. Forever sleep. Human men are the same.
>Or are we just gonna die in some apartment lonely or homeless on a street only for our corpse to be unattended and no respect paid.
Again, that is the normal human condition. Be glad you can be rewatching a childhood home video or playing your favorite game when the time comes to leave this world. Most good men have died by candlelight alone. In their dying hours they had much to worry about. Will his family be OK? Will his bloodline continue? Will his death cause undue grievance for those who wishes happy? These worries weigh not on the shoulders of an alone man.

>I feel like people here are like me, virgin, loveless, and lonely. But there is something different, I can't contain my innate desire to be wanted. And it seems like people here pretend that they have contained it but deep down inside they wanna escape this.
Typical crab self-hugging. No, we're not "COPING with being virgins by GASLIGHTING ourselves in to LARPING as happy" or however it has to be worded exactly for the staff to actually ban someone for saying that. There are 6 million reasons to be upset and downtrodden but what makes this site special is that nobody here considers their celibacy to be one of the contributing factors to their current depressive state.

>I am writing this in the state of real post-nut clarity
You must really be young and dependent on sex if you need to jack off in order just to think straight. Or you're such a young, groomed idiot boy that you actually fell for this ironic meme inversion of reality to help you feel better about your hedgehog-like need to cum. Hell, if the shit you redditspaced here is what you type when "clear-minded", then perhaps it's better you keep wasting your testosterone on cum regeneration so that the internet doesn't have to bear the true power of your retardation.


Stop with this "us" and "we". You're not a wizard if you're not choosing to remain a virgin. You're not shifting paradigms or overtone windows or breaking new ground by asking for the thousandth time >how some guy is not sad that no pussy??? tell me your all like me right??? you cant seriously be happy like this.

>>298266 (OP)
Looks to me like all your problems come from putting the disgusting sex shit on a pedestal.
I mean read shit like this here:
>In my eyes, the act of having sex is the highest expression of love
there is no such thing as 'love', its literally chemicals in your brain that trick you into procreating and providing for some roastie parasite. getting roped in by some succubus is one of the worst things that can happen to a male.
>most of us aren't happy
most people, normalfags or not arent happy and never will be and even if you managed to stick your dick in a fish hole guess what, you would find something new to be unhappy about. it never ends.
>I can't contain my innate desire to be wanted.
thats because you are literally brainwashed and an idiot, there is nothing good about being 'desired' or 'wanted', in fact that shit will dump even more problems and responsibilities on your head. now why would a self declared basementdweller like you want more of that? literally stupid.
>and how I haven't achieved any thing and I am a worthless basement dweller
I think its funny that you think that becoming a pornstar at a young age is something worth 'achieving'. and guess what, most people also dont achieve shit, having sex with a roastie is NOT an achievment and nothing to be proud of.
also these 'pornstars' eventually kill themselves anyway so who gives a shit.

>>298266 (OP)
>There are succubi who were born in 2007 who have became pornstars now, succubi born in 2008-2011 have regular sex and you all know how middle school was. I guess what I am trying to say is how do you cope with this?

I rather be a lich than just another number in some succubi's body count

>>298283
I did not expect to find a gem in a thread like this. Thank you.

All our ancestors share one common thing and that's they all had sex and reproduced. It's the one thing for which existence happens and why we're all here. It's the reason for life.

Every wizard ancestor is a sexhaver.

There is no choice in this life. Free will is an illusion. Nobody choose who they wanna be.

>>298276
> I don't wanna have any real sexual/romantic experience in the future cause I am incapable of it anyway.
why are you incapable?

>>298337
>there is no such thing as 'love', its literally chemicals in your brain
so there is love then?
that's like saying there is no such thing as fire it's just a chemical reaction that produces heat, light, and smoke!

You're incredibly low iq.

>>298406
I think you have a different, much less metaphysical understanding of the word "love" than that anon
he wasn't wrong, but neither are you
it's a matter of faith I guess, so it's pointless for you two to argue

>>298406
the point my projecting low IQ friend is that it is an illusion, a fucking trick put out by your body to make you a good little cuck that provides for a roastie. thats literally it.

I sympathize with your outlook, as I have phases like this too. Short spans of time when I am struck with a feeling of abnormality that almost makes me sick. Or rather, I feel sickened to live in a society where the things I've seen in my wholesome romcom anime do not exist.
However, I fully disagree that everyone here is miserable, that there is no genuine happiness or fulfilment to be found outside of this aspect of human life, that such real wizards do not or cannot exist. Indeed, there is nothing you can do to change your feelings in a very real sense. It takes time and patience with yourself, acceptance and the willingness to let go, if that's something that is possible with how your brain is wired. There are many ways of balancing out these desires for emotional fulfilment, having a good relationship with your parents for example or some sort of pursuit that is rewarding to you. Romantic fulfilment was only ever something a small minority of people got to experience anyhow, in human history most pairings were out of the necessity to pool resources. Sex too, was mostly just for the gratification of the man and pair bonding / creation of offspring. Most succubi never wanted to be with most men, they were more or less forced by socioeconomic circumstances. That's why nowadays, since our societies are more resource abundant, gender relations are falling apart entirely and sex is merely another transaction.
So again, there was nothing to be done about it on your part from the getgo. Grieve the life you think you could've had and move on.

>>298276
Relatable. I’m also impotent and cannot facilitate relations with the opposite sex, in fact, I face insurmountable difficulty befriending and keeping in close contact with our fellow brethren. This life of languor and ceaseless boredom, of joys and passions of lesser magnitude, it provokes hatred and contempt in me. I have done things I regret, and I have regretted not doing things; but this grief is worthless as it serves only to exacerbate and perpetuate itself.

Depression comes to me in waves.

>>298266 (OP)
I don't get which feel or idea are you exactly trying to cope against. succubi have it easier because men are the weaker sex, men even bully and despise/value each others according to how much succubi they have pleased without requiring the same from them because their dick dominates everything.

My cope is to still piss off succubi whenever they try to lure and not even look at them

HAVING SEX AS THE HIGHER EXPRESSION OF LOVE: No, sorry, losing my vital substance into an arrogant piece of flesh cannot be considered that. This point of view makes coherence sure with what I see in you as the mental disease of desire. The pussy is a trap, you do not know how to distinguish love from concupiscence and that's what makes you (love)sick in this way.

We are miserable because we are sick or we didn't know how find our place in this world.
>Do none of you ever had the desire of having a kid who looks up to you. Or a wife who will actually be on your side till your deathbed. Or are we just gonna die in some apartment lonely or homeless on a street only for our corpse to be unattended and no respect paid.
Those are fantasies that can take several cruel turns when practiced into reality. No, I am not a natalist. You do not even really want to be so, you are just sick in your soul about it.

If you just stopped cooming you'd have much better aura and mental energy so these miseries would be effectively battled away. It's like the sociopathic spirit of modern succubi, picking on you for not being good enough. A spirit which deserves nothing but hell.

Gooning into epic levels of speed while not letting a drop of your mana out, that is the way of the wizard. Looksmaxxing to reject succubi and piss off normies. Otherwise we end up like you.
>stop cooming, you are alone inside that mental filth of yours because of what you do. Sex is a war and you are a victim.

If you have energy to coom you also have it to lift weights and take cold showers! I don't know if you need these to control your libido, I don't. I just don't want to see anyone here to complain about being a failed wizard here by admitting a coom and then complaining about his mind getting lost because of it. You should really reform yourself if you want to heal or rather shut the fuck up and stop humilliating us as a collective.

"Love" is just deformed sex energy from a sick energtic body. Like the one of a coomer

>>298436
>Gooning into epic levels of speed while not letting a drop of your mana out, that is the way of the wizard.
what differences have you experienced in regular (nofap) sr vs edging with sr?

>>298463
My aura feels a bit off in a good sense. Recently I started to feel an uncanny awareness of sex being a dangerous thing rather than feeling the usual phantasies around it.