/dep/ - Depression

a personality is just a mask people put on in order to be vaguely acceptable or attractive to other people. it takes some time to build up, but it essentially just taking up a bunch of traits, activities and a certain appearance that you think is cool and then taking it seriously and identifying with it. normies are naturals at this, they aren't even aware how artificial the whole thing is, they actually think this is who they are. you can do the same thing, just pick a cool character or a cool person and emulate them until you believe your own bullshit. if you're sufficiently neurodivergent, you'll feel a natural disgust towards this kind of "acting", but it's unfortunately required to live in a society and not creep people out. you see, they don't know what to make of you if you don't fit into a specific frame and explain yourself. "i like x y and z and have a passion for w, that's why i dress like this and do stuff like this on the weekend, see, it all makes sense, i'm a real person". and then other people validate you and it's supposed to feel good. i think that's the main reason normies care so much about socializing, it's mutual validation of each others personas, otherwise normies go crazy and don't know "who they are" anymore and start cracking around the edges.

>>300507
Great, now we need to add "having a personality" to the list of things that retards consider a "cope" of some kind.

>>300508
jung thought that the persona was a necessary evil, so very much a cope, but one that you eventually learn to let go in your later years in process of individuation. many of us on wizchan probably never developed healthy personas and we don't get very far in life because of it. reminds me of a kafka quote "I was ashamed of myself when I realised life was a costume party and I attended with my real face".

>>300510
the wicked person mainly drinks most of his venom

this is probably the most low IQ thread ever posted here
>i have no personality because someone told me i had a personality but i didn't believe it
this person can't be older than 15 here from soyjak

>>300514
you sound like a normalfag

A personality is just a collection of the events and experiences that happened to you/with you. People do have their own personalities, even the most boring normalfag has something unique about him or her. Yeah, the special snowflake thing isn't just a meme. There aren't two people on this Earth who lived exactly the same life. Some little details or circumstances are always different or things happened in different order.

Many ideologies and religions try to wash away the individual into some faceless collective. But it never works. People are different. If anything, people are united by their uniqueness and individuality. The link that connects us as people is the fact that we are different.

Personality isn't just something stupid like "I'm a goth" 'You are a rocker' 'He is a communist' etc. You can't express a personality in a sentence. Also, your personality doesn't have to be "logical" or "consistent". People are full of inner contradictions and people have many sides to them. But that doesn't mean they don't have a unified personality.

>>300528
thank you, I believe I have one of those tastless personality that other people don't like or searching a better personality more expressive personality

>>300529
I used to believe in what Schopenhauer called 'character'.
>No doubt it seems as if our lot were assigned to us almost entirely from without, and imparted to us in something of the same way in which a melody outside us reaches the ear. But on looking back over our past, we see at once that our life consists of mere variations on one and the same theme, namely, our character, and that the same fundamental bass sounds through it all.
Personality then is the vibrations of the bass that we emit outwards, that can be recognised by other people. And this is why every mask has its flaw and can be recognised as fake if only observed extensively enough. As any attempt at faking character is not only exhausting, but it's always interspersed with splinters of our underlying character that will become obvious to the attentive eye. This is not to confuse with lying about events or facts, yes people can maintaining a charade if they really want to and are clever. But they can't fake character because it will seriously damage them after a while, making them mentally ill. Now with normies is the point that their character is fitting for the social world just good enough so that they can maintain a personality to achieve their goals and get the validation they so desperately seek. For the character that's not fitting it's a much harder task, as they have to find their niches, adapt their goals, make big self-restrictions and sell this as emancipation for themselves. But I believe that this is fine and can potentially lead to even much greater and more interesting lifes as history again and again shows because in this shaping is hidden the potential not only for suffering and illness but also creativity, originality and in very rare cases genius.

>>300532
had to reread your post 3 times to understand it haha. you write beautifuly.
I understand now, some personality fits better in certain situations (example normalfags are good at socializing) and some personality fit better for themselves (introvert), you say at the end, the later has a more beautiful petsonality because he might create better things but why? (tell me if I get it wrong)

>>300538
>>300538
You got it right I'd say. Normal people don't need to put effort into shaping their personality because their character already is fitting to achieve basic goals like getting affirmation for how they are and forming social connections to achieve material security 'naturally'. Outsiders and the like don't have this natural way of achieving these basic goals. That's make it necessary for them to shape their goals and behaviours much more drastically. This can lead to repeated failure and extreme misery, no doubt in that. But it can also be the starting point to transcend these basic goals and witness something bigger, like greatness. I refuse to believe that people like Napoleon or thinkers like Nietzsche (I don't like him but have to respect his influence) had characters that were just easily fitting in the general social realm, no in order to make all the effort they put in they had to have had traits that were far away from regular people. For Nietzsche it didn't end well as we can see, still he has something to show for it.

>>300551
youll get banned for what you wrote

>>300505
I would say that my personality is like that of an anime succubus. On a spiritual level, my identity is synonymous with a kawaii anime succubus. But in a based way and not a tranny way.

Yes. I guess it's because I never tell jokes or act in a humorous way. Also I avoid showing anger about anything because someone who's not a funny person being angry about stuff just comes off as a pissy whiny person. So I try to remain as neutral as possible all the time.

Sometimes I think about watching comedy shows/movies so I can build up a sense of humor and get ideas for funny lines. I like comedies but it's usually old 90s stuff that no modern person would relate to. I need to watch newer stuff like The Office.

>>300555
if your personality is kawaii online then it means you have a good personality irl,is that so?
>>300556
there's strong and weak personalities I believe, and those who make jokes have strong personalities and it shows. if you try being funny maybe you're developing a strong personality?

Many years ago I would take an antidepressant and while being on it I tried to act and be like Tony Soprano. Needless to say that in actuality I'm much more of the complete opposite than like him. It's funny how these substances lure you into believing you can be like someone and reflect a certain personality while really you're not even close.

if your perception of having no personality makes you suffer, maybe it's time to learn about your ego.
a powerful disruptor spell of ego, is to question all assumptions made by your thoughts.
>DO i have no personality? DO i have a personality? who is asking this?
>AM I a NPC?
optimally this shuts up your thoughts and doesn't encourage you to ponder further, or answer the questions.
the goal is for everything to remain open ended - wondering - uncertain.
uncertainty is the bane of the ego.

>>300583
>the goal is for everything to remain open ended - wondering - uncertain.
uncertainty is the bane of the ego.
doesn't doing this makes you go crazy lose your mind because your not in coherence with your ego/self?

>>300585
if with crazy, you mean that you become unable to function, then no.
you continue to function.

once the nature of the ego is understood, one might call the ego itself crazy.
the ego is not the self - it might seem this way, but it isn't.

if you want to learn about the nature of your ego, try to keep track of all the little identities it spins for you.
>i am a sigma male
>i am a beta
>i am a workaholic
>i am lazy
>i am generous
>i am greedy

same with stories
>my mom hates me
>my mom is over protective
>my life is shit because of my genetics
>my life is shit because i keep doing mistakes

return to uncertainty as an immediate response to the ego's shenanigans.
>is my life shit?
>does my mom hate me?

>>300547
Napoleon had to fit in somehow, otherwise he wouldn't have been so successful. By "success" I mean what people generally consider to be such.

Military leaders and rulers/leading politicians always have to be some kind of normalfag, otherwise norms wouldn't follow them. Brute force and tyranny can only get you to a limited height of social success, if the masses of people hate you then you will be fucked in the butt. That's why I personally don't consider leaders such as Napoleon to be true Superman material. The outsider thinker or artist or even criminal or someone considered as "crazy" by society symbolizes to me the true self-ownership that should characterize a superior person. Someone who isn't afraid of going against the flow of the community and can create unique values despite all opposition.

Best part? It's all pre-determined. If you receive certain genes from your ancestors and are born into a certain environment then you are destined for greatness and nothing can stop you.

>>300586
This is just nonsense to make you susceptible to mind control.

>>300505
I never understood the appeal of wanting to appear interesting to random people. If personalities are just the summation of someone's subjective experiences and value, then I see no real reason to do anything, as I'm really anhedonic.

>>300596
I don't want a personality to appeal to people, its just when someone says you have no personality, it hurts

>>300600
hurt is fine
no need to act
just feel

thats actually super advanced that you can just feel the hurt, instead of going sigma male in response

>>300601
>hurt is fine
>no need to act
>just feel
What a great advice, this is how spree killers are created. If you encourage others to internalize the stress then you only end up with more broken and insane people. You feel things so that you can act on those feelings. You shouldn't bottle things up because the lid is going to blow off one day.

>>300505
>N.P.C because no personality
No, it's actually the other way around. What normies call personality is a fake persona, a facade built on T.V, Netflix and Youtube. Their "personality" means having your mind set on things and having internalized ideas regardless of whether they're true or not. They just imitate what seems cool to them. Normies with "personality" are literally actors playing a role, but in real life.

Having "no personality" means that you have an open mind, are willing to give ideas a thought, instead of processing them through preconceptions and prejudices. You are the real player because you are not bound by your role. You choose the dialogue options, they can only respond in accordance with their personality.

The downside is that people will see you as indecisive because they're used to getting quick, machine-gun responses. Waiting in silence to let you think is something inconceivable to them because they themselves rarely actually think before responding. They rely on the response just appearing in their head, like a reaction triggered by a stimulus. Input - reaction - output. That's why they give you the fluoride stare if you take a moment to think about what they said.

>>300603
you cannot consciously bottle things up. things get bottled up when we run away, escape, and numb our mind.
if we show up to our feelings, sensing them, we are not bottling things up.

action itself is not virtuous.
specific actions can be very useful, and may either be INFORMED by feelings, or done in DIRECT MECHANICAL REACTION to the feelings.

the latter is perpetuates suffering.
the former is done from a place of freedom and spaciousness.

>>300505
you use wizardchat instead of a mainstream succial media.

A piece of personality - check