/dep/ - Depression

(if your hand in on a cooking plate and it hurts and you pull away, that's fine, no one is perfect)

>>300887
you will be a doormat to death on your death bed.
you will be a doormat to your headache after work.

i wonder what thought existed in your head before you wrote this.

>>300883
Ok but I'm getting really hungry and might starve or get too cold

>>300891
So there are some times in life that things aren't entirely to our liking, so we should just give up on trying to enjoy things all together?

>>300897
I might starve

>>300897
>>300900
the rules do not bar you from getting food. they bar you from reacting impulsively to sensations.

>>300899
the rules do not bar you from enjoying things.

when a wizmonk heads towards warmth on a cold winter night, he doesn't run, instead walks slowly, unless he's absolutely certain that his body will FREEZE if he doesn't run.
if his body did freeze, it would no longer be able teach the end of suffering to others, so he would run.

can you do a 3 day streak of these rules? my record is 1 hour.

>relax into sensations, pains, emotions and feelings without doing anything about them
This advice is more dangerous than those wizzes praising suicide.

>>300910
can you explain please, im scared now

How does ascetism benefit a wizz? I read techings of wise men like Thomas of Aquinas, Marcus Aurelius and Buddha, and what stood up for me is thaf they all were men of power before their ascetic life. They enjoyed power, money, fame and eartly pleasures before denouncing them and living a life of humblbess.
Why should I then? I never had my time of pleasure and fun. My whole life was dull and pleasureless. How can I renounce that which I didn't have?

>>300912
you might drop the rules once you find a HOT BABE or a WIZARDLY VIDEO ON THE NET, but when you feel like something's missing again, you can pick em back up.

these rules apply throughout a BIGGER JOURNEY of SPIRITUAL GAIN, it has many twists and turns.

at the end of the road, you need no rules any longer. when you feel something is missing, you just remember who you truly are. when you feel something needs to be clung to, but you cannot really remember what that was, you just remember who you are.

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you have your real world face. now imagine that inside your mind, there's another face of yours. it senses all the things your body senses (through eyes, body, ears etc). what's that face look like? super worried all the time? anxious? maybe angry? your outer face might be all lax or non expressive, or maybe have a forced laugh, but what does that inner face of yourself look like?

if you want it to have a calm, content relaxed smile, no matter what inputs are served through your senses, then it's time to delve deep.. only to realize at the end of the journey, that no delving was ever done. you were just a guy sitting on a chair, looking at a screen, all along.

there is poop pressing on my sphincter from the inside
the toilet is nowhere in sight

AM I a phoneposter?
SHOULD I relax my sphincter?


I am the sensation in my rectum
I have achieved turdmaxxing

>>300912
>Wise men
>Buddha

Look at the predominantly Buddhist places of Earth and reconsider if his teachings were anything short of destructive.

>>300912
Realistic asceticism is good. Existence itself teaches everyone sooner or later in life to embrace some level of asceticism. You can't always satisfy all your cravings and desires so you just learn to endure hunger of all sort or you kill yourself. In my opinion anyone who lives past 25 or so settles into some kind of stoicism of his own eventually.

The powerful men you mention are good examples for asceticism because they had it all yet they weren't happy. If some beggar preaches asceticism then you could say that it's easy for him to hate pleasure when he never even had a chance to enjoy it. When powerful men reject the hedonist life then it actually means something.

>I never had my time of pleasure and fun. My whole life was dull and pleasureless. How can I renounce that which I didn't have?
For people like you it's about stopping caring for something you will never ever have. It's easier that way. You can delude yourself that you will have all your pleasure some time in the future for some unseen reason but you know that hope is fake. Just let it go and embrace your life and you will know more pleasure that way than if you kept hoping for something that will never happen.

>>300929
What do you mean? Elaborate.

rule 4: dispose of your piss bottels ASPA

i accidentally took a few gulps of my own piss because i mistook it for juice carton while drunk

My religion forbids me from worshipping 3d gurus so that would be impossible.

There is the sensation that our mind tends to be somewhere that is not in the here and now. This is inflated by technology in general and media consumption specifically. The here and now is taken away from us the moment we are unable to act directly to fulfill our most immediate needs. To be more precise there is superfluous fulfillment of our basic needs that's why we have the time to ask for something else than the immediate needs. People might call this else thing with names like power, self fulfillment, Nirwana, metaphysical love, 'real' friendship and deep emotional connection, or just harmony with the world, it doesn't matter how you call it. Point is that the acting for something as abstract as this which is not immediate need fulfillment is only possible for few people as the acting is not concrete but theoretical, hidden, not obvious, language based and most often requires basic skills in using social situations for personal need fulfillment. The last thing normally is never available for people here. That leads to confusion, and helplessness as in which need to chase and how to achieve it. The most abstract of goals to chase is the solution only for very few people, the clarity of mind needs to superb. Because the mind needs to combine the most concrete and most abstract reality in one instance and this is a rare occurrence.

buddha was a chad sexhaver who decided he was done with having sex
he's laughing at virgins

>>300939
this is also why it's important for wizzers to do sense fasting - no electronics, no drugs, no music, no getting into arguments, no binge eating, no complex thinking.
optimally, just sitting.
maybe getting up to go to the toilet or get more water, or sit somewhere else.

all that abstract garbage needs to fall. the house builder inside them has to be revealed, constantly making new plans, new identities, new abstract concepts, etc

>>300946
the problem is that as soon as they try this, they will feel very uncomfortable or very bored, and they let themselves be driven by that.
they need to SIT THROUGH THE BOREDOM and UNCOMFORTABILITY, in order to get into touch with the world again.

>>300946
Generally people in solitary confinement don't come out happier or well-adjusted. Maybe try a new idea?

>>300952
can you suggest something

>>300934
WAS that an accident?
WERE you drunk?

relax into the taste of piss

>>300913
what if i see the HOT BABE ?
what should i do then?

Rule 4: Disregard all above rules and read up on Epicureanism instead.

Rule 34: If it exists, there’s porn of it.

>>301015
>pleasure is the guide of life
pleasure is nature's trick to get you to do things, and sex is the worst of them all, the worst deception
if creatures rationally wanted to reproduce, there would be no need for pleasure during sex
>buh-buh-but humans go to the lengths of in vitro to make babies!
they are either deluded (believing in some fantasy about life having meaning) or evil (selfishly wanting to secure their future)

>>301025
if life was good, there would be no need to drink or blink
no one would suffer from thirst or dry eyes