/dep/ - Depression

Have you ever thought that your suicidal ideation is not caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain but by life not being worth living? Psychiatry forces people to accept life and to endure it like a dog, but I'm not a dog and you neither

>>301174
I don't mean to derail this thread, but what else could make life worth living, if not certain chemicals in the brain?
Yes, you can do things to make you feel successful, accomplished, happy, like you have a purpose etc.
But these take so much time and effort, it's a lifelong struggle.
Why not skip the tedious grind and make life worth living through chemicals? It's a cheat, but this corrupt world almost necessitates it.

I tried Wellbutin and really hope it would work, but it made me way more agitated than I already was. I was snapping at people, trashing my things, getting piss out drunk and screaming at people… All because of Wellbutrin. Too bad, it was a medicationn that I hoped would work for me since the effects of it were intriguing and exactly what I was looking for.

>>301175
Since you asked here are my suggestions to make life more tolerable:
>do not work, enslave your parents and force them to pay for anything you want
>sleep at least 10 hours per day
>enjoy long hot showers
>install proper air conditioning and heating
>watch police pursuits on youtube
>take care of a cat, avoid dogs
>drink milk, avoid meat and sugar

>>301177
I am not OP but B12 and B1 injections saved me from a pit of fatigue/depression where I was sleeping 14 hours everyday and laying on my bed for 7 out of the remaining 8. Very strangely enough, my b12 levels were "sufficient" but turns out that can be misleading and there is a wide range of what actually sufficient is.

There are published studies of ADHD medication REDUCING the overall mortality of ADHD havers, that's because despite what retarded gorilla niggers say, it is a real condition rooted in serious and often unfixable through traditional means defective metabolism.

Apparently Wellbutrin is not a shitty SSRI so there's that. Also as far as I know MAOIs are well-known for being actually effective, but retarded doctors phased them out because reasons. The main cited risk is something about tyramine and cheese, and serotonin syndrome even though SSRIs are actually more likely and have probably given serotonine syndrome to much more people than MAOIs. What I'm trying to say here is often there is a real underlying physical condition that can be fixed or improved, be it through nutraceuticals or medication. Therapy is honestly the worst fucking thing you can try and it's for succubi and faggots and people with non-issues anyway.

I really believe that if you know what you're doing and taking it can work, but that's a big IF because psychs are pretty much going by trial and error if they even genuinely give a fuck about you, otherwise they're on big pharma payroll and get a cut from giving you whatever new shiny pill crap.

>>301180
>remaining 8
Fuck me I meant 10! yeah yeah i probably have some unironic brain damage but hey, it was miles better than my retarded family suggesting "therapy".

>>301182
how do you know meth is actually working and not a placebo? have you done a controlled study?

>>301182
>sounds like your mood changed and you attributed it the most probable thing in your mind, but in reality, the injections could've done fuck all. no way to know without a controlled study.
>SLEPT 14 HOURS
>couldnt do anything without the need to nap immediately after
>"just a mood change, just placebo effect bro"
Lol. Lmao even. Some people are impossible to change their mind but hey I won't waste my time like that.

>meth is pretty enjoyable.
Meth doesn't hit all ADHD havers the same.. just like caffeine puts some to sleep

>>301174
Of course I had that thought. I pretty much went through all possible thoughts and arguments related to the topic of suicide. And no thought or argument ever changed anything. Only action can change something. But yes I am too much of a faggot to change anything in my life. I am not saying the pill is a solution for the problem. But since I can't suicide neither, so I might as well? I mean I have been standing at the train station and if I jumped then I wouldn't live right now. But I didn't jump. There is nothing to lose. I don't see any valid solution to the state of being conscious, being alive. It sucks either way, but maybe it will suck a little bit less with the pills, so why not? I have been emotionally numb for over a decade without medication, so there's also nothing which I could miss now.

Some ratings of antidepressants and nootropics I found:
https://troof.blog/posts/nootropics/#antidepressants

Its class of amphetamines. I asked the psychiatrist for it just because I read it's amphetamines. It doesn't have the euphoria or confidence-inducing effects like Adderall or Ritalin, it just kind of made me feel more nervious and agitated than I already am. Also doses higher than 150mg or so lower seizure levels and can induce seizure, I also read some people claiming it can cause sudden death/cardiac arrest.