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 No.303254[View All]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
/wiz/ tier room setups edition.
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 No.304182

>die
>Christ shows up and starts speaking
>he says "this is exactly what you think it is"
>those who believed in me and have loved get MEGA PLEASURE FOREVER
>those who have disbelieved and tormented and hurt get MEGA TORTURE FOREVER
what is your reaction?

 No.304183

>>304182
I mean loved non-sexually obviously (for trigger happy mods)

 No.304184

>>304182
oh well

 No.304186

I'll never have friendships or a sense of belonging again for the rest of my life. I am scared of life, scared of death. Scared of the world. I want the warmth and safety I felt when I hugged my mother as a little kid. But that feeling is just a fading memory now. I'll never experience it again until I die alone and unknown. It's too damn cold tonight.

 No.304187

>>304186
Don't whine, be a man

 No.304188


 No.304189

I would also like to truly belong somewhere. I wish I still felt things, anhedonia killed me

 No.304193

I'm not sure if it's depression/mental illness. But I just have a foreboding that the whole world's going to go to shit over the next few years.

 No.304198

>>304193
>>304193
It already went to shit lol
wealth, health, social cohesion all gone in the western world
Chinks will become the new masters with their industrial capitalism

 No.304199

>>304187
What the fuck is a man like you doing here?

 No.304200

>>304199
It looks to me as if he's disparaging a young timid boy for whining about being lonely on a forum designated for grown men who chose to remain alone.

 No.304205

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Thanksgiving is tomorrow, and while I usually like Thanksgiving due to the fact that it's typically very simple and low-pressure for me, this year is going to suck.

>mother and sister got into a big argument earlier this year and have held a grudge ever since

>now I have to split my Thanksgiving between two houses (I currently live with my parents, but I'm expected to go to my sister's as well)
>some of my family will be coming here first and bringing their friends/girlfriends (strangers, in my home? fuck that shit)
>afterwards I have to go to my sister's, a succubus who is notoriously stubborn and selfish
>teenage nephew (sister's son) just got busted with alcohol, my brother is a recovering alcoholic and became a devout christian (I sense lengthy lectures in the very near future)
>brother-in-law's (sister's husband) family will be there, and although they're nice, I'm certain they can smell the potent stench of disfunction and abnormality on every member of my family
>on top of all that, I have been sick for the past two days, and while I really don't want to infect anyone, I'm worried if I opt out of any 'festivities' my family will get offended and give me shit over it for months

I used to at least enjoy Thanksgiving, but now I think I can officially say that I hate all major holidays.

 No.304209

>>304205
that sucks wizzie, but aren't you… a grown ass man? are you seriously not able to put your foot down and just tell your mom/dad you don't want to go to the stupid social event? you must be pretty young if you still care about what your extended family thinks (spoiler: they'll think you're a fucking loser no matter what). just stop showing up to the yearly humiliation ritual you'll be happier, trust me.

 No.304212

>>304209
>aren't you… a grown ass man?
Physically, yes. Mentally? I don't even qualify as human anymore.
>are you seriously not able to put your foot down and just tell your mom/dad you don't want to go to the stupid social event?
My parents are actually alright with it, given the way my sister has been acting the past month or so, but my siblings and nephews will give me shit about it. It's not really that awful I suppose, just annoying.
>you must be pretty young if you still care about what your extended family thinks
I'm not and I don't. Anything I do socially basically amounts to a bare-minimum effort to avoid unnecessary hassle or harassment.
>(spoiler: they'll think you're a fucking loser no matter what). just stop showing up to the yearly humiliation ritual you'll be happier, trust me.
Thankfully, I've reached the point where my family has given up hope on me becoming 'successful' and have accepted that I'm a disappointment. That's why Thanksgiving used to be nice, I would just show up, bullshit my way through a little small talk, eat a feast of specially prepared food, pretend to care about football for an hour or so, then go home. Simple and tidy, or at least it was until now. My previous post was, more than anything, a small lament about the only holiday I still liked becoming shit. Just another thing in this bleak life that I can no longer enjoy. All that said, if I'm still feeling sick tomorrow I wont be going anywhere. Not worth the hassle.

 No.304216

>>304209
You should know better than to ask a question like that. If you're still reliant on someone else for food and shelter, you're dependent on their whims.

 No.304218

It is too hard to be understood and connect with anyone and my vulnerabilities are too numerous and raw to avoid coming up too early and frequently and being struck in a way that isn't just unbearable painful but that destroys the process of trust building and ability to even continue any communication .

All the growth and progress I've made is offset by remaining problems that are still too big and some that got bigger in the mean time

Now I'm almost 40 and still have less than scraps of all the human necessities.

 No.304220

>>304205
Bring tupperware-like boxes

 No.304225

>>304216
nah, if you act like a bitch, people gonna treat you like a bitch. if you don't provide pushback, people will just walk over you, including your parents who are used to the idea that they own you because you came out of their dick & vagina.

 No.304226

>>304225
Disrespecting people who give you food is acting like a bitch. Disregarding your family because of muh quarrels/issued is acting like a bitch, too. If you're so smart either kill yourself or earn your own food. And if you don't depend in your parents to give you food, maybe you shouldn't be a bitch a spend an hour with them of the Thanksgiving day for the simple fact of them being your family, it won't kill you.

 No.304228

>>304226
if people respect you, you respect them back. that's called reciprocity, but you don't kiss their ass and eat their shit time and time again and hope something changes. if your family members prod into your personal life and make you feel bad about yourself, they don't deserve your presence. simple as!

 No.304236

I hate normies so much.

 No.304239

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>>304205
Sounds better than my family, I know I shouldn't complain since family is family but I really just don't like my own family man; you can't pick them anyway, they're inherently terrible people.

Alcoholism and mental illness mixed with poverty and disfunction, nothing new or special but it fucked me up more than enough to post here.

>pic not related, just something I was staring at on acid once.

 No.304240

>>304239
the irony of looking down on your family for being alkies while shoehorning that you're a braindead druggie in the very next sentence. sorry kiddo, you aren't any better than them.

 No.304242

>>304240
He hasn't reproduced so he still has the moral high ground here.

 No.304254

I wonder how many people would still be around if everyone was given a small device with a single button at the age of 20 years that simply makes you never wake up the next time you fall asleep. I'm sure I would not be around. But this kind of utopia is not even dreamable in a normie psychopathic narcissistic ruled world.

 No.304257

>>304236
This.

I can't stand people, I live in a overpopulated european city and every time I leave the house I have to endure crowds of people driving cars, talking to each other and forming queues in shops.

Now that winter is coming they also spread viruses and illnesses. It's intolerable how selfish and shallow humans are, they don't care if we get sick.

 No.304275

>>304257
Can't tell if a troll or just the general mindset on this chan. We got covid measures, because niggers like you went along with them, retard.

>Hurr durr other selfish

Meanwhile lives in an already overpopulated city

 No.304276

>>304275
>B-but people have no choice about where they live
Yeah, I bet the rest of those assholes are saying the same thing, yall deserve each other

 No.304284

>>304275
I'm forced to live with my parents and I'm immunodepressed, so yeah these selfish assholes meeting with relatives for christmas spread all kind of diseases. I truly despise this time of the year.

 No.304308

>>304275
>covid was bad
That was one of the best years of my life as an actual 30+ wizard. Life actually paused, the whole of life paused, any guilt trips from my parents, from my coworkers, from MYSELF were on hold. As a working wizard I got to reexperience life as a NEET again.

There are a lot of niggers complaining about people being sheep. Those people are fags who think they're smarter than they actually are since they were deaf and blind to all the other stuff had been going before covid hit.

 No.305569

>>304308
oh!
I experienced something great in 2020

>>303797
aaaaaaaaaand thats why I don't sub to random services (explaining this point to a normie can be done with an ai-generated rap rather than a real explanation)

 No.305597

Skipping even one pill of my psych meds is a trip. It turns the internet into a terrifying alternate dimension, it makes it impossible to sleep and I think I may even have had a seizure. The time I spent asleep was fraught with the worst, most vivid nightmares of apocalyptic doom I have ever had.

 No.305615

There is no "figuring it all out". The world is non-understandable.

 No.305620

I want religion and spirituality preaching banned across the entire internet. It's a form of spam, advertising and shilling.

 No.305621

Why am I even living? Nobody could answer this. Biology, history, science, philosophy, whatever, it all fails to even address this question. It's so basic that we fail at even getting what this is about. What is. Not even close. It is impossible that such thing should exist. Not thinkable.

 No.305633

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So for the past week or so I've been watching videos about topics concerning the corruption of the modern world, whether it be about propaganda in media, immoral and illicit activities of the elites, or just the general degradation of people and civilization. This isn't the first time I've learned about some of the many unsavory truths about our modern world, but I did realize that my entire adult life has been following a pattern thus far:
>learn that the world is a dystopian shithole and that I'm incapable of doing anything truly meaningful to change it, nor can I build a successful life for myself without compromising or flat-out losing my morals in the process
>lose drive to do anything more than make very minor improvements to my personal life and spend the majority of my time in escapism because it feels like it's all I can really do
>continue in this stagnant way for months at a time until I almost forget why I'm not doing anything with my life
>stumble on new knowledge that reminds me that life is shit, effectively resetting my cycle of stagnation
This started back when I was in my late teens, I'm now in my early thirties still living with my parents, working dead-end jobs, burying myself in video games and old movies/tv shows, and ultimately going nowhere in life because it hardly matters anyway. I wish things were better, not just for me but for all decent peoples trying to stay honest in this world of lies. The only tiny spark of hope that I still have for this world is that it seems more people are waking up to the truth overtime. I don't know if it will be enough to push people to act, and I don't know if those possible actions will prove fruitful, but I hope it all gets better someday. What I am sure of is that I likely wont be around to see a better future, whether I kill myself before it happens or I die of old age (since I doubt anything will improve significantly in my lifetime) before things get better, I just hope this evil is fully exposed and utterly destroyed someday.

 No.305635

>>305633
I can share a poem that may stem from similar feelings.

Great as glaciers, the clouds
Floating o'er an empty sea
Cast upon the busy crowds
Deathly pale antipathy.

Scatter'd like so many blots
Carelessly on paper strewn:
Him, pursuing private plots,
That one, trawling for a boon,

All in all, the inky herd
Must dark patterns always trace.
From ill courses undeterr'd,
Ever goes the mortal race.

There are also some bits of advice I can offer, which I often have to remind myself of in connection with these matters. This could all very well be mere projection on my part, because I am very susceptible to all that which I am about to attribute to you. Also, I recognise that you may have intentionally omitted some details in the interest of protecting your privacy, or simply because you didn't feel like expounding on every point. That all being said, I wonder if you might find any of this useful, too.

>The 1st - "Physician, heal thyself!"

Or, the principal importance of solving your own problems before trying to solve those of others. Being still very far from perfecting myself, I admit a certain hypocrisy in even recommending the same to you. However, it seems clear to me that, between changing the world and changing one's own life, it's far more practical to begin by changing one's life, and that even the example of those changes taking place in yourself can have an effect on other people. The reverse should also be true: by not overcoming the evil in oneself, one could function as yet another vector for that evil to "infect" others, by example or indirect influence. Perhaps you could benefit from temporarily setting aside or reducing the amount of time you spend on larger "external" topics like the state of the world, elites and civilisation. When you do spend time on these things, consider what you hope to gain or how you can practically apply what you learn to your own situation.

>The 2nd - Clear goals and thinking.

There seems to be a certain vagueness or over-generality in your way of thinking about these things. I wonder if you might not benefit from clearly outlining what you want to accomplish and why, as well as what the specific obstacles to each of your goals are. Also, perhaps you could define and delimit what you consider to be your inviolable moral principles, so you can better understand how to get around them without betraying yourself. My assumption is, if your morals will permit you to go so far as being gainfully employed, you are not one of those types who feels he is committing an intolerable evil merely by participating in the world. Therefore, you ought to have a fair amount of flexibility in what you can achieve externally. Since you like video games, perhaps you will agree with me that having a list of clearly stated goals is rather like having a quest log, and so is very useful in providing direction to your activities and ensuring that you continue to make progress over time. This even if you don't spend all (or even most) of your time on "questing." Having things stated clearly in this way also allows you to break goals into sub-goals, which can be distributed across days or weeks, making large tasks far more manageable.

>The 3rd - Things that are beyond our control.

I consider myself deserving of chastisement when I find myself wishing for something that is out of my power. I suggest you confine your hopes to those matters which you can affect the outcomes of. This way, your happiness or disappointment won't be subject to random chance or the whims of other people, and you will always have the ability to give yourself reasons to feel moralised, by living up to your own standards of conduct and fulfilling the goals which you set for yourself. On the other hand, when considering whether something really is or is not within your control, you may find, as I often do, that arbitrary self-imposed limits have been preventing you from considering certain courses of action, and so the scope of what you can achieve may be considerably larger than it seems at first glance.

>The 4th - Controlling that which influences you.

"Hopefully" I am not being overly presumptuous in these repeated comparisons between your situation and mine. I have found that I am a very easily influenced person, and so I find it necessary to avoid excessive exposure to things which I expect would influence me in a negative way. Directly put, if you fill up your head with examples of corruption and immorality, and these vices pervading every level of civilisation with no counterbalance, it's only natural for you to feel that you are hopeless and powerless, and that nothing you do really matters. I believe this is a direct reaction to all the demoralisation you've been bombarding yourself with. You may feel that by turning away from these things, you are turning away from the truth. My opinion is that this truth is a very one-sided truth, to the point that it could well be termed a "lie by omission." The omission is that there is in fact goodness in the world, and I think you believe this too, because you allude to decent and honest people in your post, and your mention of corruption and degradation implies that there is something to corrupt and degrade, i.e. something which is not yet totally consumed. If you are anything like me, I think you could benefit by providing yourself with as many examples of that goodness as you can find, anywhere in the world, be they modern or even historical, because those examples will have a positive effect on you, here and now. Eat well and take care of yourself. Spend time in nature if you can. Everything helps.

 No.305637

>>305633
I don't want to say I'd be fine with my fate if the world wasn't shit, but it'd be a lot easier to be resigned to it if the world was actually a good place.

 No.305640

Hold the fuck up, why are there *two*Depression Crawl Threads up?

 No.305641

>>305640
I don't remember what the bump limit is, but I guess an overzealous thread creator jumped the gun.

 No.305645

Once again, just like 10 years ago I'm starting to get… college fever? Well, the urge to get higher education. Only difference is now I am not 25, but 35. Does it even matter at this point? With AI and whatnot right around the corner? I don't know, it just feels so extremely wrong to let life pass by like that. I know education is not the only road and that I could be "doing" something else with my time but still. Life hasn't improved at all since 2015, in fact it has gotten exponentially worse. Back then I had $2,000 in my bank account, right now I'm $600 in credit card debt and I cannot work fulltime due to chronic health conditions. My country offers public university but you still have to pay some entry fees and stuff, it's $60 this year and the deadline is in 2 days so I am kind of having another mini middle-age crisis wondering what the fuck am I doing with my life. How could I let things get so bad, become so helpless and destitute that I cannot invest $60 in "my future" and above all fucking idiotic and naive enough to consider that it makes a difference at this point.

I really don't know how to feel or to do. Should I encourage myself to try again despite knowing my flaws and problems from the last time I tried in 2015 haven't been fixed? Or should I slap myself to wake up to my unbearably bleak prospects and reality?

 No.305646

Oh and it'd be a crappy "IT" degree, just helpdesk monkey. Beats a HS diploma for sure. Just in case anyone wants to add their 2 cents, but I'm mostly venting. On second thought and after a few deep breaths I think it's not worth stressing over it right now. Not because it's not important, but because as I just said myself, the flaws and issues from last time are still there. For fucks sake, I haven't even put together the new desk and second-hand PC parts I bought months ago, haven't migrated my hard drives, installed a switch/firewall in my room, I have no stable income and I still go from days where I just pretend I'm productive for 20 hours straight forllowed by days where I sleep for 18 hours. There is no point for now.

Do you remember that screenshot about "abscent yet omnipresent" parenting from some old thread about lifelong neets whose life never quite took off? That's how I got here. I have to escape. I had to escape 10 years ago, but I failed because I didn't have the tools, support, guidance , environment or genetics……..

 No.305647

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It's soulcrushing realizing how behind you are in life, words are not enough to express the sorrow, rage and regret that you feel when you actually do try to get out of your bleak circumstances and need to, forcefully take a good look around to assess the situation. I'm not even into escapism, not directly at least as in I don't watch anime or play games. I just pretend that learning how the world works will somehow help me. But truth is only your inmediate surroundings and relationships matter, we live in the present, not the future. So many people in my family fell for the same mistake, either straight up living in their childhood bedrooms or mentally stuck in childhood despite being married and with kids. There is a word for this and it's called being fucking stupid, I didn't ask for a minimal neuroplasticity brain!

 No.305648

>>305647
You have my sympathies. I came to a similar realization myself and the pain is truly soul crushing.

 No.305652

>>305635
>>The 1st - "Physician, heal thyself!"
In spite of my overall poor situation in life, I still make efforts to improve things about myself here and there. I've been more mindful about what I eat and how active I am, and over the course of this previous year I've successfully lost just over 20lbs which feels nice. I've also been trying (somewhat unsuccessfully, sadly) to work meditation into my daily routine, which helps when I actually set aside my chronic escapism long enough to make the time for it. Unfortunately, these things don't really improve my life as much as I might like.

>>The 2nd - Clear goals and thinking.

I've certainly tried a lot of what you've said here about breaking down larger goals into smaller, more manageable pieces, the only problem for me is that each time I try to work towards something, my natural pessimism and ever-growing anhedonia rears its head and kills my motivation almost instantly. Also as I get older, I just don't know what to do with myself, I don't know where to even begin anymore. Unfortunately, I've never been successful in overcoming these challenges, and I'm not convinced that it's even really worth the effort since it seems to me like one wasted life (mine) wont matter much anyway in the grand scheme of things.

>>The 3rd - Things that are beyond our control.

I do try not to focus too much on things I can't control, but the primary issue with this is that while I can't change or effect the actions of the government, corporations, banks, etc. they sure-as-shit can effect me. When the company I work for chooses to withhold raises or change the standards of my workplace and the law says it's ok, I'm the one who has to adapt or find a new job. If my bills/rent go up, I'm the one who has to pack all my shit and move somewhere more affordable, while the property owners hardly suffer at all. If grocery prices where to skyrocket one day, I can't just stop eating until prices go down, I have to scrounge the money to pay for food or starve to death. I fully understand that these larger entities will always have more power than the individual, but it's getting ridiculous these days. As I stated before, it does seem like more people are becoming aware of what's going on, but we're still a long ways off from a workable solution and things are still very shitty which can be infuriating at times.

>>The 4th - Controlling that which influences you.

I wouldn't really consider myself 'easily influenced' as most of my views and conclusions of the world are based more on logic and deductive reasoning (though admittedly, I do often have a natural inclination towards pessimism) rather than popular opinion and bias. So when it comes to learning about the state of the world and how corrupt most things have become, I can never unlearn that knowledge. In my previous post, I alluded to my escapism being my primary method of trying to forget how bad things are, but sadly I can never fully forget. Worse still, I know all of the patterns a little too well to ignore them. So for example if I'm playing a game and listening to a youtube video or podcast, all it takes is one idea spoken about someone's opinion or worldview in that video/podcast to remind me of the vast web of lies and degeneracy that engulf modern society. It doesn't really ruin my day or anything dramatic like that, but I'm basically saying that the world is pretty vile, I know why it's so bad, and even when I try my hardest I can't force myself to ignore or forget the reality of it.

All that being said (much of it admittedly very negative, for which I do apologize) I do truly appreciate your post. As angry, depressed, or otherwise disgruntled as I often get, I do realize that at the end of the day I'm just one lone little wizard shouting furiously into the void, and that you are largely correct that I should be focusing on my own life more, rather than fixating on the hellscape around me that I can't change. Thanks, wizzie.

>>305637
It certainly would be an easier pill to swallow.

 No.305653

>>305645
>>305646
I hesitate to make any suggestion, because your situation sounds quite volatile, but it seems to me as though you haven't got much to lose in making an attempt. My two cents: go for it, if you believe you can make it work. I was in a similar position years ago: lots of debt, no income, no degree. I chose to get the degree despite my situation, and haven't regretted it. If you do succeed in completing it, chances are it will pay for itself in the long run, and you might be surprised what kinds of doors it can open for you - not only in your chosen field, but also those mysterious positions that only require a degree, no matter what it's in. It does seem that AI is or will be taking over a lot of jobs, but considered from another angle, couldn't having more credentials rather strengthen your position in the coming years? This especially because some of these AI tools are being used to filter job applications, often based on keyword scanning, and so your application could be saved from the trash bin, or at least "signal boosted," by including mention of your degree. I also get a sense that perhaps you feel you are too old? If so, I don't think that is a significant barrier. I got my degree later in life, and I saw people attending the school who were even older than I was. The health conditions and other details of your specific situation, of course, I cannot speak to.

>>305652
I think I understand. You seem to be stronger than me in a lot of ways. I think I may just be better at self-deception. Congratulations on the weight loss: that is a great achievement. I believe you are capable of more great things. I can certainly relate to the desire to shout into the void from time to time, and to difficulties with emotional state changes. No doubt, this world can keep squeezing us, and kill us off whenever it likes. It hasn't become impossibly bad for me yet, for which I am grateful, although I have had some close calls. At a certain point, perhaps one would welcome the change. I wonder if you like to read history? I hated the subject when I was younger, but it has been growing on me the last few years. I find it comforting to think that many of these problems occur in cycles. Perhaps you find this too fatalistic. History can also supply plenty of examples of great men surviving difficult times.

 No.305654

>>305653
>You seem to be stronger than me in a lot of ways.
Perhaps, perhaps not. I like to think that each person has their own strengths and weaknesses.

>I wonder if you like to read history?

I do enjoy studying history on rare occasions. There's certainly a lot of good, bad, and morally gray to be found throughout history. From the art, mythology, and philosophies of ancient Greece, to the superstition, fear, and brutality of the Aztecs, history can shed light on the many various aspects of the human condition and the human psyche. One of my favorite figures (though this is likely a predictable and popular answer) is Napoleon Bonaparte. People often focus their attention his achievements as a brilliant military strategist (as warfare is so often viewed as the 'sexy' aspect of world history) but not always on his success as a statesmen, or the positive changes he made for France's economy and the welfare of the middle-class families in that time. A really impressive and fascinating man all around.

>I find it comforting to think that many of these problems occur in cycles. Perhaps you find this too fatalistic.

Not necessarily. The fact that human history is largely cyclical is a bit comforting to me as well, as the current 'low-point' we find ourselves in is indicated by historical patterns to most-likely turn around, sooner or later. My only real gripe with this cycle is that it's indicative of the inability of most humans to evolve beyond their baser instincts, thus repeating the same core mistakes like ignoring wickedness for the sake of personal gain or self-preservation. I really think that if the average person had better pattern-recognition, and placed more importance on things like truth, objectivity, and logic, then we wouldn't keep falling into the same traps and repeating the same mistakes. Where that to happen, civilization might actually start to enjoy some real growth in terms of intellectual and spiritual enlightenment, at which point there's no telling how far humans could go. Maybe some day, I can only hope.

 No.305672

I have $4 in my bank account :(

 No.305680

>>305672
Your $3.99 monthly account fee is due today

 No.305701

nothing but pain in my life, soon I will hang myself


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