/dep/ - Depression

congrats on turning 14, champ. yeah, i remember my "lol everyone is stupid except me" phase. it's the perfect time to get into r/atheism and naive left wing movements like communism too.

had a synchronicity moment, right as i made this thread the banner turned into this

Because they're irrational they become predictable. Just means we can save our money when things like tattoos or Bitcoin get popular.

«Yes, but my nose runs. For what purpose then, slave, have you hands? Is it not that you may wipe your nose? Is it then consistent with reason that there should be running of noses in the world?»

«Do you comprehend that you are awake? "I do not," the man replies, "for I do not even comprehend when in my sleep I imagine that I am awake." Does this appearance then not differ from the other? "Not at all," he replies. Shall I still argue with this man? And what fire or what iron shall I apply to him to make him feel that he is deadened? He does perceive, but he pretends that he does not. He is even worse than a dead man. He does not see the contradiction he is in a bad condition. Another does see it, but he is not moved, and makes no improvement: he is even in a worse condition. His modesty is extirpated, and his sense of shame; and the rational faculty has not been cut off from him, but it is brutalised.»

Aside from quotes, what can be said to a man, who claims, that his rationality had been taken away from him? I am not a God to give it back to him, nor can I argue with him, for claims to be irrational, and the irrational cannot perceive the rational (the argument).

The frightening part is everyone mistaking the rationalization of this irrationality for it "getting better". Because when you see it like that it becomes clear that as the organisms we are, we can and do come up with elaborate coping mechanisms to prolong life no matter how painful it becomes: see boomers for a perfect example of this.

Meanwhile young people take risks or kill themselves with relative nonchalance. My only answer for this is that we grow attached to life, again, no matter how bad it becomes. Really bad news for the wizard crowd, man.

I think I am in an interesting situation, a lot of outcasts and loser types have freely indulged for decades non-stop their hobbies, pleasures and interests. But I always refrained from these because I thought it would be wiser to save these things for bad times, this was before I realized this rationalization of irrationality action. Should I finally indulge in stuff I like or pull the trigger already?

>>304293
After Scott Adams said he would have to murder his son to prevent him from being a crab shooter

>>304297
Epictetus? He was a stoic, right? My favorite stoic idea is the "premeditatio malorum", that is, envisioning worst-case scenarios so as to be mentally prepared for them. However, worshipping "rationality" is inhumane. you have to acknowledge the influence "irrational" (that is, primitive, instinctual, emotional or even "unexplainable") drives have. Maybe it's something that's easier to understand if you are unrestrained or disinhibited, or at least know or knew someone like that.

>>304301
Indulge in stuff. I am not going to tell you to suicide. But in the end it's your choice. I sadly can't just cast a spell that makes it impossible for you to suicide no matter what.

Have you ever seen the Robert Crumb documentary? His brother Charles was a wizard. He still lived with his mother when the documentary was made. But he offed himself before the documentary was even released. He was 49 years old. That decision - suicide - it was just tragic, not "logical"..

His other brother Max, currently 80 years old, was in the same documentary literally speaking of raping succubi hahah. And he didn't off himself

>>304301
>The frightening part is everyone mistaking the rationalization of this irrationality for it "getting better". Because when you see it like that it becomes clear that as the organisms we are, we can and do come up with elaborate coping mechanisms to prolong life no matter how painful it becomes: see boomers for a perfect example of this.

>Meanwhile young people take risks or kill themselves with relative nonchalance.

I think it's the other way round: young yobs have no idea how to handle situations that aren't even that bad for an old chap.

>>304294
>>304294
it's the other way around, isn't it???