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 No.63677

I'm waiting for a hypothetical switch lite 2 to buy a console. I want to play VNs mostly on it and hope it will play switch 1 games to so I can play switch 1 games on the switch lite 2 and since switch 1 games are cheaper than switch 2 games.

 No.63678

why not get a steam deck or similar handheld? it can emulate switch 1/2 games and play all the VNs on PC too. you can pirate games for free instead of giving nintendo 50 bucks per title.

 No.63679

>>63678
It's more like 80 bucks at this point, and when you buy the cartridge, most are just a download code, you're still completely dependent on their servers to play the single-player games you overpaid for. Not to mention those consoles are all just shitty hardware sold at a premium price. Even then, apparently the Switch 2 sold really well. It's honestly shocking how stupid gamers are. They don't understand hardware, consumer rights or math for that matter.

 No.63680

>>63679
>apparently the Switch 2 sold really well

i think it's clueless parents buying it for their kids and nintendo "adults" that want to play super mario and zelda.

 No.63681

>>63680
>nintendo "adults" that want to play super mario and zelda
Funny because they haven't released either of those yet.
The last 3d mario game was 9 years ago.

 No.63682

>when you buy the cartridge, most are just a download code, you're still completely dependent on their servers to play the single-player games you overpaid
what? how to know if my cartridge isn't only a downloded code? also if the servers don't work anymore, that means, I can't play the games I paid anymore??
>>63677
I think I'll wait for the steam deck 2

 No.63683

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>>63682
>also if the servers don't work anymore, that means, I can't play the games I paid anymore??
If only you knew how bad things really are.

When you sign the EULA for a digital game purchase, or buy a physical multiplayer game in a case with its fine print on the back, you're agreeing to the fact that the company that provides the online service can rugpull you at any moment, for any (or no) reason. If you buy an online-only game and the servers go offline the next day, there's nothing you can legally do. Any game you've "bought" (technically rented) on Steam can be removed from your library by VALVe or the game's publisher for no reason given. Any Nintendo Eshop purchase can be revoked from your account. If you say the nigger-word in a singleplayer Minecraft world, Microsoft bans your Minecraft account. Your entire Switch 2 system can be permanently disabled from connecting to the online features if you put the wrong Micro SD card in it. The consumer must agree to not pursue legal action when the inevitable shutdown happens, or else they don't get to download the game at all.

The Wii, 3DS, and now I believe the WiiU servers are gone. A Nintendo Wii that someone had purchased and downloaded Princess Daisy's Bikini Beach Volleyball on to will never get to re-download the game if it is deleted from system memory. Nintendo even just won in court against the developers of a hardware+software set that let users who purchased digital game make digital backups of their purchases so you can then "download" them from yourself once these Nintendo servers go offline. You're required to agree to these conditions when you buy a digital game. If you buy a download code for a game and the servers from which you need to download it go offline, there is nothing you can do besides resort to piracy. So why wait to resort to piracy when you can just embrace piracy from the start? If the game is singleplayer, then the single best way to acquire that game is by grabbing a cracked copy.

 No.63684

>>63683
so if I buy a VN for the switch 2, the game isn't mine?

 No.63685

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>>63684
Correct. The current legal definition of game ownership doesn't even suggest that those who buy physical games own them in the same way they would own other physical goods. What you're buying [i]is limited access to it. And the limits of the access are always defined by "until we decide to revoke that access which can be whenever without forewarning". Think of it like if you buy it from the Nintendo eShop, it's technically rented, but you're not told when the return date is. As a rule of thumb though, so long as

- The Nintendo servers are online
- The game hasn't been delisted by Nintendo
- Your Nintendo account is in good standing

Then you can download and play the game. Even if your Switch 2 goes up in flames, you can log in to your Nintendo account and re-download them on to a new one. In doing so though, any previous Switch 2s you've logged in to would lose their access to those games until you logged back in on them. No game sharing!

But these are three critical failure points, so let's break down how they can affect your ability to hug Natsuki in Doki Doki Literature Club! Plus+

>The Nintendo servers are online


The Nintendo eShop isn't like Steam. You can't always upgrade your device to the newest model and sign in to it to play all of your old library again. Instead, each Nintendo eShop is specific to the current generation of device and their sub-models (Switch Lite, Switch OLED, etc). As new devices launch, the old ones are made obsolete due to Nintendo shutting down the online services for them, including the eShop. Not just by preventing new items from being purchased through it, but by preventing previously purchased items from being downloaded at all. It also lets you not play your games online anymore!

The Wii eShop was online from 2006 to 2019. That was 15 years. A young wizkid who used his birthday money to buy a game through it on day 1 could have downloaded it to his Wii and enjoyed it well in to adulthood. However, once the Wii's online services reached their end-of-life, the eShop was shut down. If he still has his games installed, he can play them, but if his hardware fails or his game gets deleted by his evil little sister, he'll lose access to his "legal" copy. He'll need to jailbreak his Wii and pirate the game to get it back.

>The game hasn't been delisted by Nintendo

Nintendo is always changing their mind on what kind of publishers they want on their platform and what qualifies as a game they'd like to sell. If you use the eShop to purchase Popotan, but then the company who developed Popotan gets bought out by Sony, Sony's acquisition contract may prevent that developer from selling their games on other consoles (That's why PlayStation 4 and 5 have so many exclusives!). In this instance, the particularities of the contract will either mean that your Nintendo account still has access to re-download the game so long as the eShop is online, or it could mean that once you uninstall it… *POOF*, gone forever. Otherwise, Nintendo themselves may have disputes with independent developers and publishers who then decide to stop doing business with Nintendo. In that case, it's the same thing. You won't be able to buy the game, but you may still be able to download it if you already have. Or you may never be able to uninstall it without losing access forever!

>Your Nintendo account is in good standing

You used Animal Crossing's custom artwork creator to add furry hentai to the game… And then you published it for other players to download! Your Nintendo account is now banned and you've lost access to all purchased games. You're going to have to make a new account and purchase those games again… But this is Switch 2, so your device ID was flagged as delinquent so now you can't even sign in to your new account on it at all! No more games from the eShop, and games you've bought physical cartridges for won't be playable online.

That's all digital download trouble though. As for buying physical copies of the game, there's typically less of a chance that you'll lose access but some caveats still pose a risk to those cartridge's usability. There are many tiers of physical games for the Switch and Switch 2:

>All-on-cart

Put the cart in and play. These games will ALWAYS work, as the Good Lord intended.

>Data-on-Cart

The game's data is on the cart but some of it needs to be unpacked and installed to the system memory. Might have to delete some of your installed games and pray you can download them back later…

>update needed:

Update-in-cart:
You need a new version of your Switch 2's firmware to play this game, and the update files are present on the cart.

Update-online:
You need a new version of your Switch 2's sfirmware to play this game, but the update files must be downloaded from Nintendo. Let's hope the servers are still online to do that!

>Download-certificate-on-cart

The cartidge doesn't have the game on it. Rather, it acts as a signature that allows you to download the game from Nintnedo. If the servers are still up and you're not banned, you can do that! Unlike buying the game through the eShop though, you can sell this cartridge to some sucker and then he'll get to download and play it. Of course, even if you have this game installed on your system, you'll need to insert the cartridge to play, so it's not an infinite game glitch.


So in short: No, you don't own anything. I hope you're happy!

 No.63686

>>63685
how do I know if the cartridge can be played even after the servers are shutdown? is it written somewhere?

 No.63687

>>63686
>is it written somewhere?
Nope! Finding out through trial and error if your game will work in the future is part of the game itself.

 No.63688

>>63687
(T_T)
I just wanted to play some badao gemu… what console do you play your games? what do you suggest me to do?

 No.63689

>>63688
Just play on PC

 No.63690

>>63688
>what console do you play your games?
I have a cracked Switch 1 and a gemu pasokon. The Switch is an early model for which the cracked software is undetectable by the vanilla software so I'm not going to be hardware banned from online games. The gaming PC is leet. It took me two years of overtime to buy the components and it can play any game available on max settings. I use it to emulate PSP.

 No.63692

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>>63690
>>63689
I just wanted to have a cool device because I donnt know how to pirate things. I'm tech illiterate and steam deck is like a mini pc and don't know how to pirate things and download games on it (I know to use steam though and thats all).

 No.63693

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>>63692
>I donnt know how to pirate things
You can't be serious nigga
Google "[insert game] free download" and click one of the websites. Then download the game and extract the zip file

 No.63694

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>>63693
ok yeah thats easy indeed

 No.63695

>>63693
Drop more lonely anime succubus pics

 No.63696

>>63695
Just search for them on Danbooru

 No.63697

>>63692
>steam deck is like a mini pc
It's more like an alternative Switch. The Steam Deck runs SteamOS which greatly inhibits piracy and other PC functionality. You can dual-boot Windows but the drivers for the hardware aren't up to speed. The ROG Ally is Windows natively and can effectively be described as a keyboardless laptop with joycons, but honestly at the price they're going for you may as well just buy an older used Windows 10 gaming laptop with something like a 1070 or 2060 in it.

>>63693
>Google "[insert game] free download" and click one of the websites. Then download the game and extract the zip file
Thanks for the virus

 No.63698

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 No.63699

>>63696
I enjoy interacting with people, Im not that hurried and can wait for an answer :)

 No.63700


>>63698
Thanks



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