Never really could get into comics. Especially mainstream Marvel/DC. Too many iterations/interpretations of characters and I just don't bother. Even a long running shounen is easier to get into since all you have to do is read from chapter 1 to wherever it is now.
Only comic I read was The Boys though. It wasn't spectacular, but I found it to be pretty amusing. I also remember reading something with a succubus who got stuck in a magical world except the joke was that she was super violent and ruined everything. It had nice art.
Too expensive for me to really get into. It take a massive amount of disposable income for so little entertainment.
I have read some, and maybe once every 6 months I will get a discounted or used trade paperback of a intresting story line, but other then that I don't even bother to try to pirate anymore.
I also can get into the cape stuff because you have to do so much homework to be able to even get into episodic stories.
So far my favorite comic is Sandman. It is really good. I haven't read the whole thing yet but I really enjoy putting on some goth music, getting comfy and reading a few chapters.
Read 2000 AD. Much better than the capeshit comics form the u.s
What is the name of first comic
The Doom Patrol by Grant Morrison.
Lol, I don't think I'd be able to take this comic seriously at all.
I doubt I could get into it. Even in batfam crossover events, I lose interest so quickly. I don't even like reading Nightwing and Catwoman standalone stories, who are characters I like, unless they're interacting with Batman. He's just the only superhero I like at all. Even so, can you recommend a good story or run?
>>42624>Azzarello writing Batman
Not sure how I missed this one. Thank you anon.
I read that in 2015 when I was just getting back into Batman comics, and was looking for a darky, gritty, noir, stand-alone comic without the Batfamily.
IDK I kind of feel like it went no where though. Although maybe it just means comics aren't for me, since its everything I requested.
I read it last night when it was recommended, turns out I already had it in a torrent I downloaded a while back. I thought it was Azzarello doing what I like him for: hard-boiled crime stories. You're right that it didn't really go anywhere, but there are plenty of times in the comics and other media where it touches on that theme of Batman fighting a city that will never succumb to his mission. He did a one-shot called Joker which is similar in a few ways.
If you want good stand-alone stories, check out Legends of the Dark Knight if you haven't already. It's a long anthology series of nothing but stand-alone stories
I used to love comics. Even drew some comics. Used to like music and reading too. Now I can't enjoy anyhting but the odd movie.
delete Scott Pilgrim is the worst comic I've ever read in my life. Read it if you don't believe me.
You haven't been reading many modern comics then. There is so much shit that is worse then Scott Pilgrim. It is no wonder that comics is dying as a medium.
I saw the movie when it came out and thought of it as a dumb fun ok fun. Wasn't planning on reading the comic anyway since according to people the movie was better.>>43439
Don't know much about comics, but isn't it only really dying in America? Manga does amazing in Japan and comics across Europe do fine from what I heard.
The manga industry is totally different from and separated from the comic industry.
And Europe has always been a very small market that can barely sustain its self. It too has shrunk as a market and had some real quality problems.
There are a number of factors involved, but the big factor that has had a direct effect on quality is the focus on identity politics and feminism rather then interesting well written stories and good art.
Basically no one wants to pay $5 bucks for 20 pages of crappy SJW propaganda.
>>43443>>43443>but the big factor that has had a direct effect on quality is the focus on identity politics and feminism rather then interesting well written stories and good art
But were comics actually selling that well when well written stories with good art were a thing? It just seems there's been a general disinterest for comics in the west for years.
Yes, not as good as during the speculation bubble of the 90s but the business was still thriving and there was still room for market growth.
I don't know, from what I heard comic books in the west have been stagnating for a while now and the surge of SJW shit just pushed away the handful of people interested in them.
Wizzies, can someone recommend me some good post-apocalyptic comics, please?
Something with a mad max or fallout vibe. With the emphasis on raiders/evil humans instead of zombies or some such shit.
Actually, I'm trying to remember the name of that one comic I saw several years ago. It was pretty brutal and graphic, I remember a scene where the protagonists (probably) were shooting at some perverted-looking raiders or something. Rings a bell to anyone?
Wasn't in the mood for such a genre back then, then forgot about it at all, now remembered and kinda want to read it.
Did the raiders have infected scars on their face? If so, that's Crossed.
What's a good website for pirating comics?
I remember them having bodyparts (like limbs and such) sawn or glued to their bodies. They looked like crazy cannibal slaaneshites.>Crossed
Yeah, that must be it. Thanks.
I just use piratebay and kickass - they usually have the stuff unless it's something really obscure.
oh i like batman and lovecraft, maybe ill check it out
Most people stay away from comics (mainly DC/Marvel shit) because no one wants to deal with what's essentialy fanfiction everywhere. With manga you read a story from chapter one until the end. With comics you have to deal with characters having 500 different stories with different writers taking places in different universes and it's just a giant mess to fucking deal with.
You know Disney got a lot of flak for nuking the Star Wars EU. But I think it might actually be a good thing if comic books had hard reboots every decade or so, instead of expecting us to know 70 years of history.
Ultimate Spider-Man was one of the main comics I read in high school, and for a while the ultimates were close to usurping the mainstream universe.
Like these heroes are supposed to be in their 20s and 30s but they have 70 years of stories and soap opera drama behind them.
it be nice if every decade they got a total blank slate, where we just preserve the basic character and mythos, and everything else is up for grabs.
I mean I'm aware of things like Infinite Crisis, New 52, Flashpoint. But to me New 52 was like the worst of both worlds, ugly and stupid new designs, but most of the soap opera shit of the 70 years still considered canon. Like Batman's 70 years of adventures including Jason Todd, Killing Joke, oracle was supposed to have happened in like 2 years of his career.
>>43506>But I think it might actually be a good thing if comic books had hard reboots every decade or so
But they do, at least DC seems to do that every decade or so.
Honestly that's the main reason I don't even bother reading capestuff. I stick to standalone things that don't deal with superheroes at all. One day I might try going through some, but not today.
I do admit that it takes a lot of homework to get into most capes.
New 52 was both a reboot and keeping most of the history at the same time.
I actually bought the first issue (it was on sell). I don't normally buy physical media but I really like the comic and wanted to read it when my internet was down.
I used to read some of the titles, but i left it after the future end event. After that i left reading cape comics.
Does the other character of moorcock hav any comics?. I think corum have one
Why idw has his own dredd? is just as cool as the british one?
Never read it but it looks cool and I will probably enjoy the show quite a bit.
Hope the current SJW crowd don't shit all over it for cultural appropriation or some other dumb shit.
I thought about posting this in the /lounge/ news thread in response to a few posts there but I didn't want to contribute to derailment and this is at least as much about comics in general as about that specific bit of news.http://archive.is/83nMW>[Watchmen] was specific to the Eighties of Reagan and Thatcher and Gorbachev,” he writes. “Ours needs to resonate with the frequency of Trump and May and Putin and the horse that he rides around on, shirtless. […]
I don't see why the entire comics-centered industry cannot let anything be. They have to realize that there is such a thing as tarnishing a brand. The film had neither the artistic merit nor financial success to warrant a series; judging by the reactions I had observed it seemed to have disappointed the fans of the comic and did not seem to engage with anyone who had no familiarity with the comic. Any attempt to squeeze more milk from those blood-scabbed teats will be correctly seen as unmerited greed, and will have to overcome a hostile kneejerk reaction from its fanbase. It seems so pointless. According to its Wikipedia page the Watchmen
film had a budget of $130 million and a total box office intake of $185 million, which makes it pale even in comparison with Zach Snyder's other comic films; 300
had a budget of $65M and a box office of $450M, Man of Steel
had a budget of $225M and a box office of $668M. Watchmen
's profit margin was not so low as Snyder's Sucker Punch
($82M budget, $89M box office), but did not reach the level of Snyder's 300: Rise of an Empire
($110M budget, $337M box office). I have never heard of anyone who thought that the story of Watchmen
would do well if expanded or reinterpreted, and the most positive reception of the Before Watchmen
prequel comics that I have seen amounts to "they're not actually bad as comics, just not Watchmen, and you can't expect every comic to be Watchmen. This doesn't destroy the original, it's okay to enjoy fanfiction." As a television series I would have had more interest in a continuation of 300
, and I couldn't even make it all the way through Rise of an Empire
. There have got to be better choices available as vehicles for contemporary social commentary. If they really wanted to, people could even do some serious Trump commentary using Greece as a setpiece. Especially if they used Alexander, a blond-haired barbarian king with a controversial legacy and many alternative interpretations to choose from. For example, in the Koran, Alexander became Dhul-Qarnayn, the legendary builder of an immense wall separating the civilized world from the nations of Gog and Magog. There's plenty of people who have and had negative opinions on Alexander; the Spartans despised the Macedonian upstarts. For centuries there has been argument between the Macedonians and Hellenes about whether Alexander was more Hellenic or more Macedonian, but in various eras this was a matter of trying to assign blame, rather than trying to claim credit. HBO could make some fucking hay with that, if they had the inclination. They'd have a problem with Frank Miller's personal politics if they used 300
as the basis, but if they went with, let's say, Wonder succubus lore as the basis instead and had it as Wonder succubus prequel stuff they could find a way to make it work.
>>>/lounge/185923> completely destroy it even worse then that movie to suit a petty political agenda.
Alan Moore's work was always political and the spirit animating those politics ranged from the grand to the personal, from the insightful to the petty and obscene (From Hell
, Big Numbers
, arguably even Neonomicon
). His political purpose was usually contemporary, even when set in the past or on alien worlds. Moore's run on WildCATS
, with its vanquished, suffering exploited Daemonite world and corrupt, inhumane Khera victors enriching themselves off the ruin was about the aftermath of the fall of the Soviet Union. If Moore were to revisit Watchmen
he would probably have done so in the context of contemporary politics as well. But these writers are not Alan Moore. The trouble is not that the work is being made for a political purpose, the problem is that it is being made at all. Worse, made by a complete fucking hack judging by the fact that he's credited with writing Star Trek Into Darkness
, a film that managed the incredible feat of being worse written and less watchable than Star Trek V
. If he were just a producer or just a director on it that might be forgivable. There are things men do for the sake of a career. But he was a co-writer. He helped author it. That is the sort of thing he writes. That is what happens when this man is put behind a typewriter. Star Trek Into Darkness.>“In [our writers’] room, Hetero White Men like myself are in the minority,” he writes, “and as Watchmen is (incorrectly) assumed to be solely our domain, understanding its potential through the perspectives of succubi, people of color and the LGBTQ community has been as eye-opening as it has been exhilarating. We’ve committed to doing the same in front of and behind the camera. And every single person involved with this show absolutely adores Watchmen.”
A social justice explanation for this "remix" doesn't make sense, when they talk about bringing people of color and LGBTQ in front of and behind the camera. Rorschach's psychiatrist was a black man and as good a person as any in that story, Hooded Justice was a homosexual and there were lesbians as well, all of whom were depicted more positively than the straight white males, BUT. That was only possible specifically because they were not the main characters driving the action of the story. The whole thing collapses into incoherence if people are actually better than Ozymandias, king of men, a vengeful, prideful narcissist whose true motive for murdering Comedian was less to silence him than to finally pay back the narcissistic injuries Comedian had laid upon him years earlier. Ozy had demonstrated he was quite capable of more subtle and remote murders, there was a particularly personal need to bring about Comedian's end with his own two hands. Bringing nonwhite nonstraight representation more fully into the lens would require making them as amoral as Dr. Manhattan, immoral as The Comedian, or otherwise as sexually disturbed and depraved as the rest of the main characters, just in order to fit the emotional and tonal needs of the story. Is there really an outcry for more depictions of black men and homosexuals as murderers, sadists, useless perverts, psychopaths and rapists, like the main cast of Watchmen? It sounds more like an advertisement slogan than like something that could have any meaningful impact on the story, or even on the depiction and representation of minorities. Mr. Lindelof must be preparing this as an exit strategy. Maybe he knows he is going to trek into darkness again, and is preparing to blame the minorities, or public intolerance for them, for his own inability to make a watchable product. No, Lost
was not watchable . But it's not really going to work this time. The guy who directed the all-female Ghostbusters
had some significant successes in comedy under his belt and there were no blindingly obvious glaring signals that he was A Very Bad Idea. Damon Lindelof has some questionable successes under his belt such as Lost,
and then he also has Star Trek Into Darkness
I just don't understand why or how anyone could think it was so vital to run an updated series on Watchmen that they had to rush headlong into it instead of at least waiting for the disappointments the fanbase had to fade away, and to make sure they hired the right team this time, instead of giving the matter to someone who wasn't suitable for it like Zach Snyder. Instead they make do with a guy who had Star Trek Into Darkness
on his resume. I am not even saying they should have left the property alone preserved in amber forever. I am just saying Star Trek Into Darkness
I thought someone someone already did?
As I said then, I have no intent on watching this bullshit. It is watchmen in name only. Just another thing take over by SJWs because they are hacks that can't make new shit so they have to destroy old shit and paste together a shitty thing of their own from the shards left over.
Probably because cape stuff is what's making money and HBO wants a slice of the pie before it's gone.
It is shit like this that make me think it is not even worth getting invested in anything because every few years some uncreative fuck will dig it up and shit all over it for both money and to shill their ideological bullshit.
Add to that all the other massive problems in the comic industry and I sometimes think that maybe I should just stick to manga and anime since the west can't have a good idea without later killing it in one way or another. We just can't have nice things and I am sick of it.
Well, since the thread got bumped I might as well report on my experience with Crossed.
The first three volumes (Original, Family Values and Psychopath) were ok, I liked them. As well as the general idea for the series about humans being masked shit, and the "crossed" being who dropped the mask.
In "Badlands" quality was all over the place due to different authors working on it. On average it got palpably worse closer to the end with some arcs featuring quite a shitty art-style and one even being authored by fucking Bemis (you can imagine what it's about). In fact, I wouldn't recommend anything made by anyone other than Ennis, Lapham or Hine in this series.
The "Wish You Were Here" webcomic was surpsisingly long and story-rich, but got weaker towards the end. The other webcomic was too short to even mention.
And the final installment (+100) was so ridiculously over-saturated with SJW propaganda that it nearly gave me cancer, so I ended dropping it in disgust. And a real pity that was, because it's set 100 years after the outbreak and has a very comfy atmosphere. But alas, everyone's there is either homosexual or bisexual, the protagonist is a mulatto strongwoman, her mother is a lesbian, a local community is run by an FtM butch, a neighboring one is a town of peaceful muslims that are just like real muslims except they don't discriminate against gays and succubi, and have a female Imam leading them, and all of that happening on the territory of former Tennessee. Wow-wee.
To summarize I can only say that Crossed timeline shows the process of degradation of comicbook industry, as barely anything made after 2013 is worth looking into.
They have vol.5 of the darkness trade paperback plus two other comics I don't give a shit about at Dollar General for 6 bucks.
I am debating whether to get it or just pirate it.
If you really like it and want a physical copy then buy it after.
If I remember correctly vol.5 is old and the company already made their money when they sold it to the store.
I benn reading some Usagi Yojimbo Comics, and i still wonder if lord Hikiji is still a human or now is an animal
Does anybody knows comics that have the noir and pulp feeling of sandman mysterie theater?
Like actual pulps like The Shadow and The Phantom or do you mean stuff inspired by the pulps like Sin City?
Just bought my first proper physical cap book.
Batman, the 100 page special from Walmart.
While I really liked batman cartoons and such this is my first time picking up a comic for batman. Hopefully it is good and not a waste of $5 bucks that I could have spent on used discount bin trades or something nice from the net.
Well I just read this and absolutely loved it. And it all began a couple days ago when I found out by chance that there was a new DuckTales on (found that out by flipping through the channels, first time I turned the TV on in 5 years or so). I remember enjoying the original series a lot so I decided to check it out. It's ok I suppose. Reading about the series on wikipedia ended up on on an article about Rosa. I did read Disney comics as a kid some times but had no idea who Carl Barks or Don Rosa was.
I'm glad I found this and at the right time too, they're publishing a Don Rosa library, which I stole on a torrent site but intend to buy it soon.
Anyway, it's a straight forward adventure about uncle Scrooge and his nemesis Glomgold competing to see who finds a hidden Inca treasure first. The whole story is a perfect example what I used to like about comic books like The Smurfs or Tintin. Colorful, no nonsense, don't take itself seriously, likable characters, easy to follow, no need to keep track across a trillion other editions. I mean I never cared about super-hero stuff in the first place and thethings mentioned by >>43505
really kills it for me, though I did follow the X-Men for about 8 years beginning with the whole Phalanx invasion thing in the early 90s I think but that was it. Then I tried again a decade later when they began with the All-New X-Men but before I realized I was having to keep track of multiple time travels with young and old versions of the character jumping around between time lines and for fuck sakes that's exactly why I don't read this shit.
tldr: Get this book for free and give it a chance, I think it will make you like comic books again.
Btw this got me so happy about comic books again that I got a full set of Tales from Crypt to give it a try. Will report back after reading a couple of issues.
How bad is Scott Pilgrim? I never understand why it was so popular
It's nonstop references to video games and "nerd" culture.
It has the same level of quality as a mid-00s web comic that somehow got published.
again. So I'm still reading a bunch of comics. Here's some of the stuff:
Frank by Jim Woodring
Weird, beautiful drawings with nothing really going on storywise. Really liked it though. Very surreal stuff.
The Sculptor by Scott McCloud
Meh. Has its moments but mostly didn't speak to me at all. This guy get super powers and spend doing sculptures of his girlfriend. Then they die
Adventure Time The Four Castles
I watched that show up to the third season or so and wanted to take a look at the comic. It's actually alright, has the same mood as the cartoon but I think I should've got a Ice King title because apparently he has a solo comic going (at least I saw one in GetComics).
A Contract with God by Will Eisner
Got it because everybody says it's a very important comic book in comic book history. Read the first story and it's OK, there are interesting moments in there. I was expecting more I guess because it's Will Eisner and all.
Betty Boop n.4
I was curious about it. Drawings are nice, story is super simple and straight forward. I actually read the whole thing fairly easy, which is something I can't say for hero comics like Superman.
Tales from the Crypt n.20 (which is actually n.1)
Really liked it. Read only the first story, The Thing from the Sea. It's a very charming comic book and I totally got it why some many comic book aficionados say it's one of the best comics ever made. I read it because Don Rosa said it was his favorite comic in the world after Uncle Scrooge and Donald stuff by Carl Barks.
Micronauts n.9, the new one.
I was surprised. Got it just because it had a Sphinx at the cover. Drawings are meh but the story got me hooked. Planning to read the other issues.
Liked it a lot. My spanish is kinda shitty but managed to read it. Just wish it was easier on the way. Those crips black and white illustrations are hard to get into.
Read the first couple of chapters. Didn't agree with a few points (for example if the character looks realistic you'll have a harder time to symphatize with it, which I think it's pretty much nonsense). Good stuff otherwise, guy really love comic books.
I got a bunch of other stuff too, here's a list;
Aliens - Labyrinth
Cadillacs and Dinosaurs
Disney Giant Halloween
Fallout New Vegas comic book
Hearts at Sea
Lament of lost Moors
My Favorite thing is Monsters
Over the Garden Wall
Strangers in Paradise
If you know any of these and want to say something about it please do. Also if you want to recommend me stuff I appreciate it. I'm basically binging on comics right now. Let's see how far it lasts.
I just finished to read Heck. Best stuff I've read so far. Can't recommend it enough. It's about a guy who can go into the netherworld to ask stuff for people residing in there (turns out it's pretty much everybody who have ever lived) and he makes a living out of it. it's actually about friendship but don't let that stop you, it's more like a friendship between a man and his dog really.
Very simple drawings and dialogue but I found it so gripping. Really nice way to spend a hour or so. I also read the Fallout New Vegas which establish the characters you meet as soon as you begin the game. It's OK.
Mickey's Craziest Adventures was also a nice surprise. One pagers, really smart humor, loved it. Read The Age of the Apocalypse which is more like a profiling of how the each X-men created his/her own little group to survive in a scenario where Apocalypse won and Xavier is dead. Kinda nice but the story is spread across so many issues, kinda of a hassle. Also gave it a chance to Paradiso. Not really my type of stuff I guess but it's interesting enough I'll continue to read it. It's about a guy in a post-apoc world wanting to get inside the only city that is not complete shit, called Paradiso. At least that's what's going on in the first issue. And finally I read the first issue of The Superannuated Man which has a weird and intriguing premisse. Will continue.
If anyone feeling like reading comics again or starting to, https://getcomics.info
for most things and https://www.zipcomic.com
for more rare stuff. It would be nice to have someone to discuss all the stuff I'm reading. Give it a shot, once the feeling of "this looks like shit and dumb, I can't read this" is gone, you really can get into it.
#2 of 100 page Batman comic is finally out at my local WM.
I am so hype I am going to read #1 again then read #2 tonight.
This is legit getting me into Batman comics. Might binge some stuff online after I finish while I wait another month for #3
I think I might have missed out on #3 as it sold out or wasn't in stock every time I checked.
I will see if I can find it online ether as a scan or if I can get a used copy.
Anyone know if batman rebirth is any good?
They restocked with fresh #3 and they have a Halloween 100 page special with a new swamp thing comic in it.
Thinking of ordering a few used comics on Amazon. Stuff like The Shadow and Sandman.
Can any one recommend me some comics to read online? I want something dark, broody. More Dredd than Noir but doesn't have to be science fiction.
Keep the pozz low please.
Can't you read just about anything online now days if you look hard enough and the ones you can't find you can download?
Anyway Sandman is pretty damn good and usually pretty easy to find. It is very dark and "broody" but it is very different from Dredd.
I found a random trade paperback at the dollar store called Irredeemable.
It is a lazy deconstruction of superheros written by someone who I think doesn't actually like supersheros but read watchmen once and thought they could one up that, mixed with really bad art direction and panel flow. The over all art quality is pretty mediocre. It could have been saved with good writing but it isn't written well at all.
I think in the future anything written by this guy, Mark Waid, is something that I should probably avoid. Even McFarlane, who while being a great artist and promoter isn't all that good at writing, writes way better then this.
Your phone is big enough that you can actually enjoy the art?
I have seen memes related to the comic but never got around to reading it. You make it sound interesting though so I might give it a shot.
I couldn't without constantly thinking of early 2000s goths and myspace users. That's mainly invader zim's fault though.
garth enniss and carlos ezquerra make a comic just like that, but i dont remember the name ritgh now
I'll start posting here instead.
Conan The Barbarian #5 is out. So Conan is smuggling a wooden idol that ends up killing everyone on the ship and when animals eat those killed by this monster, they turn into tentacle monster themselves. It bothers me that Conan is now killing Cthullu with a sword. I'm talking about a creature that could feasibly swallow the whole ship. It felt way overpowered to be a Conan enemy but what do I know. I have a few Mr. Aaron seems to put Conan into situations only someone with actual powers could get out of. And why the idol killed everyone BUT Conan there remains a secret to the ages.
This issue suffers with the whole show don't tell approach to storytelling. We never see how he killed that huge monster.
That was a fight everyone would like to see, instead we get a single panel of it. Then when everything is done, Conan is alone on a ship with burned sails, marooned and ready to die. So they just throw another ship at him.
All that said it was a fun 10 minutes read, I think they're trying too hard to show how cool Conan is instead of telling a compeling story.
Link to comic: https://getcomics.info/marvel/conan-the-barbarian-5-2019/
Savage Sword Of Conan 04 - Apr 10 2019
Conan The Barbarian 06 - Apr 15 2019
Age Of Conan Belit 02 - Apr 10 2019
I've been reading a ton of comic books again. Perhaps I'll post about all of them. My favorite right now is The Marquis of Anaon. In the 1720s, Jean-Baptiste Poulain, son of a merchant and former medical student, travels to countries where mysterious phenomena have been observed or where inexplicable crimes were committed both to enrich his scientific knowledge to come assistance to victims of events that seem supernatural. Spirit Cartesian and rational, it must cope with living in remote regions where reigns the obscurantism and where crisis situations often result in the persecution of groups living on the margins of the community.
Art is brilliant, all the characters have clear, interesting expressions. Their anxiety, fear, joy and all other emotions are crystal clear on their faces. There are only five books, I've read three so far. I think the second one has the best art, the first one the best story.
You can read all the books online here:https://comiconlinefree.com/the-marquis-of-anaon/issue-1
Or download them here:https://europeanclassiccomic.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-marquis-of-anaon.html
I've read from 94 to 108 just now and there's a good reason lots of X-Men fans tell people to start with the Claremont run on the series. We go from the mutants fighting carnies, dinosaurs and bank robers to truly cosmical threats and creatures from the Beyond. It feels like a huge improvement and it's very easy to get invested. My only trifle with it is how they had Beast vanishing from the book, no explanation given. I had to hunt down other Marvel titles "something I find really annoying in American comics" to find out what happened to him.
People talk a lot about jumping in points but I do believe Giant Size X-Men 1 and #94 onwards is a really good place to start. There's very little you miss by ignoring the previous issues. This is where Wolverine comes into the team as well, along with Colossus, Nightcrawler and others. If anyone want to start reading it; https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/8890356/Uncanny_X-Men_(001_-_544__amp__Annuals)_(-_Nem_-)
Just finished reading the famous story Days of Futura Past, #141, #142. It is by far the best X-Men story so far, way better than Dark Phoenix or the Proteus stories, even though those were pretty good too. Finally I felt like there were actual stakes on their struggle and the whole thing is really tense, specially the first issue.
I'm going through these fairly quickly, let's see how far I can get before burning out. I've read every single X-Men story from its debut in 1963 all the way to 1981. Let's see how far I can get before burning out.
I went back on those first 66 issues and made a list of my favorite stories. Maybe I'll to another list when I reach #200.
-X-Men first visit to the Savage Lands. "The Coming of Ka-Zar!" (#10)
-An alien codenamed Stranger takes Magneto to a space zoo. "The Triumph of Magneto" (#11)
-First appearance of Juggernaut and the -Crimson Gem of Cyttorak. "The Origin of Professor X!" (#12)
-The whole Sentinel saga starting with "Among Us Stalk… the Sentinels" #14, #15 and #16
-Magneto's attempt to build a mutant clone army in "If Iceman Should Fail..!" #18
-Prof. Xavier going solo to Lucifer's underground base in "I, Lucifer…" #20
-The X-Men get caught in an underground feud between Mole Man and Tyrannus in "War – in a World of Darkness!" #34
-The X-men try to avoid an Alien ploy to trigger World War III beggining in "We, the Jury…" #37, #38 and #39
-The uncanny world and fate of Grotesk and the Gortokians in "Now Strikes…the Sub-Human!" #41
-Mesmero and the City of Mutants, also the first appearance of Polaris in "Who Dares Defy… the Demi-Men" #49 and #50
-The Living Monolith saga and first appearance of Havok in "Wanted: Dead or Alive… Cyclops!" #54, #55 and #56
-The Sentinels return under the direction of the Sentinel's original creator's son, Larry Trask in "The Sentinels Live!" #57, #58, #59
-Magneto relocates to the Savage Lands and start to buid a mutate army there in "War in the World Below! #63
Still reading it. Currently at issue 154 so I can make a list of my favorite stories from the second volume. Here it is.
-The rise (beginning in the last volume), appearance and fall (in this volume) of Dark Phoenix starting with "Too Late, the Heroes!" in #134, #135, #136, #137.
-A grim, grim future for the X-Men in "Days of Future Past" in #141, #142.
-Sprite has to fight a relentless, eldritch N'Garai demon from another dimension in "Demon" #143.
-Cyclops has to overcome his fears by teaming up with Man-Thing in "Even in Death…" #144.
-A solitary, childish mutant is desperate to find a friend in "Cry, Mutant!" #148
-Terrible things lurks deep within the underground ruins of Magneto's base in "And the Dead Shall Bury the Living!" #149.
-One of the most emotional stories from this period and great character development for Magneto in "I, Magneto…" #150.
where do you read them?
can you pls gib the link to read them?
i used to watch the 90s cartoon
ill try to donwload it
I was reading the latest Sonic issue and they had a preview for this series called Canto. It just came out and it looks promissing. Cool premise, the art is not the best but I can tell I'm going to like enough to keep up with it. You can find on getcomics or read online if you like.
There's only one issue out so I can't tell what the story is going to be about but we have this character called Canto, he's from a race of enslaved androids living in an apoc future with a medieval feel to it. They work to keep a furnace heated under a city called Arcana. Nobody knows why. One day a slaver kills one of his friends and he sets out on a quest to find a cure. https://readcomicsonline.ru/comic/canto-2019/1/6https://getcomics.info/other-comics/canto-1-2019/
I've read it before. It's different from anything else I guess, too "meta" for my liking. If you are interested in the history and evolution of comics, that's what it plays with.
Calvin and Hobbes. So many childhood memories.>favorite author
Probably J.R.R. Tolkien, or C.S. Lewis. Also a huge fan of Robert Jordan. If you mean comic author, I liked Greg Farshtey when he wrote Bionicle. Loved reading those as a teenager.>favorite cartoonist
Probably Bill Watterson>favorite character
To add on to this, I also really loved Spaceman Spiff
I was more into Stupendous Man myself.
I like the one with the khajiit umm I forgot what it was called but it takes place in the elder scrolls universe and the main character is katia managan or something
I'm aware the Archie comics ened and IDW tookover and they have this new Forces style "resistance" arc but I've lost most of my interest in Sonic so no. I went through a time of reading the Archie comic and I adored it, but got bored at what I later learned was the exact point Flynn tookover. I must be one of the very few that liked Penders Sonic.
I'm past the age that I can stomach any cheesy fan-service anyway.
I tried to read Archie's Sonic but the sheer amount of issues made me gave up on it.
hey conan wiz are you still here?
Hey wizzie, yeah. I'm also the x-men wiz and the sonic wiz, Uncle Scrooge wiz.. it's awful lonely itt to be honest. Well at least the Crossed wiz is not me. Anyway what's up?
alright, watched the conan the musical vid on jewtube, remembered you wrote a indepth post on comics and why conan is good, tried to find it on wayback machine, couldnt, so just posted here
also you posted a link to dl conan comics but i dropped it at the 2nd book sadly, just not my thing i guess
I remember that. It was a response to some guy saying the comic was shit because the main character was just a chad or something. I don't recall exactly what I said though, sorry. It was something about Conan being the barbarian's archetype and the comic working exactly because of it. The fact his absolute masculinity is played to the point of silliness and he can brute force his way though a grimdark world infested with magic and monsters makes the perfect character to create fun comic book stories with. It also makes him more impervious against political correctness, as both Conan and the world he lives in is suppose to be the darkest age of man in all its aspects. I don't know, it's just fucking great imo.
Hey if you want to try picking up again it would be cool to have someone to talk to about Conan. It's hard to get into but if you read just one issue a day or something and let that sink in you can have a great time.
I see, it was probably me that said he was just a chad wish fullfillment etx
If you have a link for dling a series of it ill retry reading it
There's a lot of Conan comics that got published over the years. If you're more into books you can just download all of the Hobert Howard's books (https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/16355301/The_Complete_Chronicles_of_Conan_-_Robert_E._Howard_[EN_EPUB
]). Many of the comic book adventures are of course based on the books. If you want to try the comics again, you have to decide how grim you want your stories to be. If you want absolute grimdark, then the best way to go is reading Savage Sword of Conan, (https://getcomics.info/marvel/savage-sword-conan-1-235-annual/
) that's the favorite of many Conan fans because of the more adult approach to the character and the unique art. It's, well, savage. If you want a more "campy" "comicbooky adventure" Conan, then Conan The Barbarian is what you're looking for (https://getcomics.info/marvel/conan-the-barbarian-vol-1-1-13-1970-1972/
). Both of those titles are old though. Old art, old way of storytelling. If you want a more recent approach, Marvel bought the rights to publis Conan again at the beginning of this year, which makes an interesting jumping in point. You can get those on getcomics also.
Read a couple of issues of everything and see what suits you. I hope you find something to your liking wizzie, good luck! Any questions or something else just post itt, I'll be happy to talk about this stuff.
will check out the savage sword, thanks wizzie
It's also worth mentioning that the comics went downhill after Roy Thomas left.
I would rather let the new reader finding out for himself what writers/artists he prefers.
Damn math teachers. Am I right boys?
I like to read Unbeatable Squirrel succubus and I think she and Kraven have cute chemistry and I like to imagine he used a time machine to go back and take her virginity on her 5th birthday just like the Turks did to Bulgarian succubi in 1907 except it is with consent and enjoyable (since Doreen has super-strength it would not hurt her) instead of being rape and unenjoyable.
did you just draw this?
Hey man sorry I didn't see your post. I don't have any steam or anything like that, I pirate every media I consume pretty much. You can make short posts here you know, it's not like there's a bunch of other people using this thread anyway.
I remember fapping to these, not proud at all. And eve less so to Squirrel succubus now
welp conan wiz-san, i finished the savage sword of conan, bretty gud, liked it overall. tho havent properly read comics before so dont have much of a reference
any other recommendations?
Can we have a whole series of similar artwork?
24 hours and no new post, guess every time i see my old post i'll just have to draw or do something productive while i wait for replies?
Where has everyone gone? Have they (the smart wizzes of 2013-2016) moved to the dark net or something, is there better conversations there that update more regularly?
Comics is kind of a dying hobby with very few new people getting into it and a high barrier to entry.
Also the site is just slow and this board is usually super slow. Threads last for years and there usually isn't extended back and forth in most threads. Well at least not the productive good natured kind.
High barrier to entry to comics you think? Why?
Couldn't i create a comic right now?
>>52033>High barrier to entry to comics you think? Why?
Everything about getting into comics takes a large amount of effort (and in the case of buyfags fuck tons of money) for very limited entertainment compared to alternatives, especially with the major decline in quality of writing and art in a lot of more curret and surface level content like the vast majority of superhero comics for the past decade.
Only in the past 5 or 6 years has there even been a reliable place to read comics online compared to say manga, and you can't find them in normal stores or even the rare few book stores left most of the time. You have to go out of your way to a specialty comic book store for find physical comics. Shops that have been closing at record rates.
Then you have the dense about of research and back issue reading to get caught up on what the hell is going on with a charicter to even have a hope of understanding what is going on in a story that is usually build of parts of other interwoven other stories of totally separate series because they are writing towards a event that then turns out to be a total dud anyway.
It isn't like dropping into a series of genera fiction novels or something. It takes weeks or even months of real deal research to actually keep up with a current story line if you are just starting out.
And don't get me started on the community compared to other fan communities when it comes to newbies.
>Couldn't i create a comic right now?
Totally missing the point to a extreme degree. This thread isn't even about making comics and I have to think you are just being dense because you think it is funny. It isn't.
Hey wiz, did you read the whole thing? That's pretty cool, and to know that you liked it too. I'm glad to know that. I'm sorry taking this long to respond, I'm trying to keep my internet usage to a bare minimum.>so dont have much of a reference
You read the very best comic book series of Sword and Sorcery ever committed to print my good friend. I wouldn'to recommend it otherwise. I don't know what I could recommend after that, it depends on what you liked about it. If you liked specifically because it's sword and sorcery, then I'm afraid it's all downhill from Savage Sword.
may i ask why youre trying to keep internet to a minimum?
and i liked it because..uuuh.. id say it wasnt pretentious? its good at what it does (testesterone oozing man kills monsters, saves scantily-clad succubi) and doesnt try to be more than that
dunno how best to put in words
anyways, its fine if you recommend stuff other than conan, ill check it out regardless
comics are inherently jewish
jews invented comics
If you ask me, Scott Pilgrim laid the groundwork for comics of the 2010's. For better and for worse. And since I don't really like most of the characters from the little I've read, I want to say worse. >>52728>>52729
That is both a wrong and a non-issue. Fuck off.
I wonder if they will take a whole new direction in the post-corona world.
I tried to read sandman two times when I was a Teenager, but I left it in the issue where Chesterton appeared because I couldn’t understand it. I finished it a couple of months ago. Just in the issue where Lucifer leave the hell, I realized the bad taste I used to have for stopped reading it. Even if the main characters are abstract concepts with human form, they have feelings and sorrows. And the secondary characters that are just humans are not less interesting just for being normal people. The day by day of the stories flow with naturality that could be boring in other kind of comics or books. The everyday bitching of work, money, relationships, politics and sex that make the Stephen King novels so boring, if you are not from the U.S, Especially from Maine, it’s a part of the comic i couldn’t understand the first times I tried to read it. Now I can’t understand how Neil Gaiman makes possible writing about that without being boring.
The Only flaw I have with this comic is the Issue Where Marco Polo appears. I know an Argentinean comic about him which does a better job. It’s called El Libro Secreto de Marco Polo. The best chapter is where he knows Samuel Taylor Coleridge in the dream Palace of Kublai Khan.
Sorry is the English is not good enough. Is not my first language
What happened to the huge amount of horror comics from the 50s? Titles like tales of the crypt, or creepy. The only horror modern comic I know is the new volume of Creepy, and some adaptations of horror books of Clive Barker. Horror comics never became a thing again, after Fredric Wertham and Cape comics. The same thing goes for the sword and sorcery ones. Besides of the limited series of Conan and Kull, published by Dark Horse, those types of comic’s remains forgotten in detriment of superheroes comics. Now that the superheroes seem to be useless against a virus, we should probably see a growing in other kind of genres.
Most of those genres are European dominated now.
There are still stories from the US being published but they get nowhere near the attention as the shit put out by the heavyweights of the US industry.
Look harder wizzie, there are a lot of horror comics still coming out and lots of recent stuff. Gideon Falls, Ice Cream Man, The Empty Man, Wytches, Redlands, Nameless, Rat God… Take a look at Vault Comics and Image, they always put out horror stuff, you just have to keep an eye for it.
>The same thing goes for the sword and sorcery ones
To be honest that genre never managed to go much beyond Conan and you're probably never going to see something as good as The Savage Sword of Conan ever again. Hell it's my favorite comic of all times, it's as good as a comic will ever be imo. Marvel is currently publishing 3 Sword and Sorcery titles, Age of Conan, Conan the Barbarian and The Savage Sword of Conan. I haven't been following comics too closely for the past year but there's probably something else getting published besides those.>>54187
Do name some of those titles, I would love to know more about Euro horror comics.
>>54188>Do name some of those titles
I haven't dived too deeply into them myself, epecially not the serials, as I tend to stick to graphic novels but a few I read last year were
Little Miss Cheery
The Suicide Forest
and some old random Italian comics about female vampires that I read mostly for the art like Yra the Vampire and Sukia.
if you want argentine comics check out el cazador, patoruzito and mafalda
After years of reading only manga i want to get into western comics but dunno where to start since it's so massive.
Im interested in the best batman stories/arcs, planet and world war hulk, and classic thor and daredevil stories. I read V2-V3 of wolverine,the one where he fights romulus,and enjoyed it.
Are there any avaible lists for what im looking for?
also spiderman is my favourite superhero;what runs should I run about him?
>also where do i download. torrent?
I don't know about Daredevil, Hulk, nor Thor, but in terms of Batman I can only recommend Hush, Arkham Asylum (illustrated by Dave Mkean) and Mad Love in my subjective opinion.
Dont read The Killing Joke nor Whatever happened to the caped crusader? unless you can stomach the people behind them
is the one where batman is an old man and fights superman with a tech suit good?
i dont remember the name but I like the movie about it i saw
Hard to say, I never saw Dawn of Justice.
There's also Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller but I could never endure the disorganised style past the first few pages.
This is really great. Black and white comic art is underrated over here, and yeah I know it was a meme in the 80's.
I've been meaning to get into the Judge Dredd comics since high school.
Mignola is a master of the form and I can appreciate why he's so renowned, but his style just doesn't jive with my taste. Highly subjective thing, taste.
I read the court of owls and im going to read miller's batman trilogy
Any other essential modern batman stories i should read?
¿Why the original writer of Thorgal left the comic? The other writer is not a good as Jean van Hamme.
¿Is Marvel publishing Conan comics again? I thought that was impossible. Conan is basically everything the new Marvel writers hate.
Yes they are. I haven't been following it too closely because there's only few issues out yet and I like to binge but so far it's been more or less the same vibe you get from the original Conan The Barbarian, only the art is current year. The Savage Sword of Conan is also pretty close to CtB, which imo shouldn't be. They should aim to copy the original Savage Sword like CtB now is going for the original CtB footsteps. Going for a more gritty approach, maybe even b&w art, who knows, right now there isn't a difference between the two titles, I don't know who would be purchasing both, but there's always hardcore fans out there. All in all, both those titles feel rushed as hell and are of mediocre quality.
About new Marvel, I assume you're talking about agenda-driven identity politics.
For people with those sensibilities, Marvel is putting out a third series based on Conan's universe called Age Of Conan. It's focused on female characters like Belit and Valeria. Belit was pretty bad but I heard Valeria is decent, I'll check it for myself eventually, she was always too much of a smug swashbuckler for my taste but who knows, I'll give it a shot.
I remember reading an Achilles adaptation published by Marvel and written by Roy Thomas. ¿Does Marvel used to publish adaptations of classic books? ¿When they stopped published them and why?
¿The comics written by Brian K Vaughan are enjoyable? I’m looking for some apocalyptic comics, and Y: The Last Man is one of the most recommendable in almost every comic’s site. Also, are Saga and Paper succubi worth reading?
¿How many comics Elric of Melnibone have? I know Marvel published “The Dreaming City” back in the 80s, and I think DC had an Elric comic written by Neil Gaiman, along with other series based on Michael Moorcock work. I think there was an French adaptation, but I don’t know if they are only doing the first Elric book or if they are gonna do the 8.
Anyone here like bone? any recommendations for long, self-contained comics in a similar vein?
Perhaps I mean to say underground comics, not indie comics. There still are indie publishers and comic creators making new stuff.
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There are still underground comics just like there are still zine scenes.
It is just hyper niche and they like it that way.
And yeah, indie comics are actually booming right now compared to the mainstream industry. Mostly through crowdfunding.