I wish the people who made these things didn't feel the need to force niggers into every single program. I recently saw a commercial for a comedy middle ages show and I lost count of how many niggers and arabs were present in this show that was supposed to take place in 1200s or so Britain. It's really getting ridiculous.
Was it made by BBC or something?
probably, it starred that guy who played Harry Potter
Yeah, it is their official policy that they have to meet diversity quotas in all their shows and staffing even if it makes no sense or is precedential to the final product.
It is like they forgot that quality always trumps quantity when it comes to representation.
This is clearly a comedy. Also brits didn't develop the accent until the 1800s.
What horrible calamity made them develop it?
>>51523>You're making it impossible to just casually enjoy hobbies for the entertainment.
Are you serious?Creators turning shows into propaganda directly affects the actual entertainment product. Criticizing said perversion does not.
If third-party criticism destroys your ability to enjoy television I don't think that your hobby is actually watching television. You probably just like talking about it.
that's pretty much why i just watch asian shows now
Sadly I only know about the dramas and soap opera that my sister is into. Don't really know much about quality live action shows beyond that.
Silicon Valley. This сomedy show has become my favorite. I've reviewed it at least three times.
Richard Hendricks, a 10x engineer at tech behemoth Hooli, leaves his job to build Pied Piper — a Silicon Valley startup whose USP is a super-efficient compression algorithm. His core team includes programmers Dinesh and Gilfoyle, both of whom think they’re the company’s CTO.
Erlich Bachman, whose house the team occupies, made his money by selling his startup, Aviato, and now posits himself as Pied Piper’s sales/business head. The team is also joined by the enigmatic Jared, who focuses on the undervalued aspects of organization and business.
Pied Piper attracts interest from eccentric VC Peter Gregory, and Monica, an associate at his firm, becomes a big advocate and mentor for the startup.
Gavin Belson, the spiteful head of Hooli, wants to build a competing product that will destroy Pied Piper. His flailing efforts are blown away when in the season finale, Richard’s heroics cause Pied Piper to overcome adversity and win TechCrunch Disrupt.
How do you even find stuff to watch, Netflix is shit, I don't have enough space on this device to torrent anything and I've heard people don't even do that anymore, I can't get KODI to work, I think the only solution is suicide
Imdb and rotten tomatoes
For many years I have used wikipedia to find new good media. I discover directors, production companies, actors/actresses I like and explore their filmographies. In the process of watching the material I take note of new artists to look at. Wikipedia makes it very easy to do so.
Is this an adult cartoon or a western anime? I guess it's both, but it wouldn't have been appropriate to post it in /jp/, so I guess I'll just post it here.
Anyway, I liked it. Good adaptation of the series, mostly. Certainly one of the better video game adaptations out there. Action is well animated & it has nice, lean pacing. Voice acting actually wasn't too bad either, although, maybe it was just me, but the sound design & FX seemed very muted & hushed. Almost like there were extra sound effects missing most of the time, or something. I was also pleasantly surprised that it actually had a decent/meaty story to tell and that it wasn't just a parade of pandering references & fan service to cover up its lack of substance.
Speaking of references though, it was certainly interesting seeing all of the ones they peppered into the show. Like that weird geometric shape that's in the background of the save rooms of Symphony of the Night being shown as the engine that moves Dracula's castle. I guess that's not really a reference, since that's just part of the actual universe, but the fact that they used the exact shape seemed like a bit of fan service in a small way. The fact that it turned briefly upside down as it was being hijacked by the magician lady, felt more akin to a proper reference I suppose. Also how some of the monsters they fight are bosses from the games themselves, like that tag team flying bat and spear wielding pterodactyl looking thing. Alucard turning into a wolf and Dracula busting out his signature attacks from the games was cool to see as well.
Watching this series actually made me kind of sad at how long it's been since I last played an actual Castlevania game. I didn't even recognize 'Bloody Tears' when it started playing (had to look it up afterwards, since it sounded only vaguely familiar), which just made me feel disappointed with myself. I really only caught the most obvious references to the video games, which also just made me feel like a lousy cunt. It was super weird finding out this show is based on Castlevania 3 and that Alucard was one of the selectable companions in that game. I always thought Symphony of the Night was his first game. Fuck, I can't even remember the plot of Symphony of the Night if I'm being honest, even though I've finished it like 3-6 times over the years. Only Castlevania games I've played/finished are Super Castlevania 4, Dracula X Chronicles, Aria of Sorrow, Harmony of Despair and both Lords of Shadows games, including that extra downloadable one.
Well, it'll be interesting to see how Season 3 turns out, given it's right around the corner. In some sense, I don't even feel like this show needed another season, since the fight & defeat of Dracula, along with the proceeding epilogue episode afterwards, tied things up pretty well, I thought.
Finished Bojack Horseman.
I think it was a pretty neat show, especially when it focused on titular character (didn't really like Diane, Todd, any comic relief. Princess Carolyne was alright), some episodes were really great and I could relate to half-assing everything. I didn't dislike the ending. I think they wrapped it up nicely for a cancelled show.
The only TV shows I've liked were Breaking Bad, Dexter, Twin Peaks and some episodes of Dark Mirror, I'm pretty sure all other shows are unwatchable normie shit like The Wire and The Sopranos and I can safely kill myself knowing that I've watched all good TV, any recommendations for me though
I know this post is like from a month ago but if you like breaking bad then you need to watch better call saul
Deadwood is pretty good
Can anyone recommend me good, thought-provoking television shows with no violence?
I have been racking my brain but i can't think of a single show that has no violence in it
A started a new series but then the violent imagery gave me nightmares
oh hey, that's looks fun to watch, I'm pirating all 3 seasons now, thanks!
Interesting, to me it sounded like a bunch of drivel that leads nowhere.
It's a monologue. The function of a monologue is not to advance the plot, it's to provide depth to a character or exposition.
Watch Daily Planet if you can find a site to stream up-to-date episodes. Good science and invention articles and footage
So what do you all think of the Picard series? Are the synthetics and romulans supposed to represent immigrants?
It had potential but turned out horrible.
Much like all the other sci-fi stuff I loved when younger "current year" political agendas had to come in and shit on everything I like.
The genera is nearly dead to me at this point when it comes to TV shows.
While it wasn't quite as bad as discovery as far as quality it pissed me off a whole lot more because it seem to actively try to destroy literally everything that a fan of TNG could have liked.
It was made by a really nasty person who clearly has emotional problems. Someone who just wants to tear things down, to destroy them, but can't competently build anything anew or add anything of value.
This was really great. I stumbled across it by accident browsing my Amazon Prime account.
>Counterpart is an American science fiction thriller television series starring J. K. Simmons. It was created by Justin Marks and was first broadcast on the premium cable network Starz. The series ran for 20 episodes across two seasons.
Howard Silk, a gentle, quiet office worker, has been working for a Berlin-based United Nations agency, the Office of Interchange (OI), for thirty years; however, his rank is too low for him to be told what his work really involves, with him exchanging pre-scripted nonsensical messages. In fact, OI oversees a crossing point, below the OI headquarters, to a parallel Earth (the "Prime world"). The parallel Earth was created in 1987 during an experiment by East German scientists when only a scientist named Yanek was on-site. The original "Alpha world" Yanek meets his new "Prime world" counterpart, and they soon begin studying how the initially identical Earths start to exhibit subtle differences.
The differences become drastically more pronounced after 1996, when a deadly virus kills hundreds of millions in the Prime world. The virus is suspected of being purposefully delivered from the Alpha world, resulting in a tense Cold War state between the two worlds, with counterparts used as spies and sleeper agents. Silk's Alpha world continues to resemble ours, but the Prime world becomes quite different, with Howard Silk Prime being a ruthless and cold intelligence operator. Matters escalate during the series when a powerful rogue faction on Prime executes long simmering plans to get revenge on Alpha.
Why are these hollywood succubi turning to MLM and so interested in it?
>Gwyneth Paltrow>Kirsten Dunst
multi-level marketing / pyramid scheme
It is a scam business model that is bewildering that it hasn't been banned yet.
this show cured my insomnia
If you knew about the man before going in you would know they actually held back quite a bit for the show.
Dude got DEEP into sex magic stuff and the swinger sex party lifestyle around that time depicted in season two.
I enjoyed this quite a bit, even though it does get confusing at times. The lead actress said it helps to think of the series as a science fiction story rather than as a straight forward mystery. The plot can occasionally be hard to follow and key details are left open to a wide variety of interpretations, so this may frustrate some wizards. The soundtrack is also great.
I plan to also read the book and watch the film adaptation they did back in the '70s.>Picnic at Hanging Rock is an Australian mystery romantic drama television miniseries.
>Hester Appleyard purchases an isolated mansion out in the Australian bush to transform into a school for young ladies - a few months later, Appleyard College is a success. On Valentine's Day, 1900, when students and staff go for a picnic to Hanging Rock, three of the school's star students and their governess mysteriously vanish. Their disappearance leaves a devastating impact on students, staff, their enigmatic and formidable headmistress and the township at large. Theories abound, secrets are exposed and hysteria sets in, until eventually, the lives of the characters unravel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picnic_at_Hanging_Rock_(TV_series)
Pretty cool miniseries from way back when based on that one English guy, whatever his name is, who became the first western samurai and was all buddy buddy with Tokugawa. Overall I enjoyed it, but I found the conclusion to be pretty anticlimactic and unsatisfying. The story also became really convoluted and a lot of plot threads seemed to go absolutely nowhere at all. Also, if you're not interested in the setting, than this show can certainly get to be boring. I personally found the setting to be pretty interesting, but there were times where the story moved so slow that it just started putting me to sleep and I even had to stop watching early one night just so I could have a nap. Besides that, almost all the characters were likable and I especially enjoyed seeing John Rhys Davies as Rodrigues and Toshiro Mifune as Toronaga/Tokugawa. The guy who played Alvito was also great too.
Can't say I expected it to end on such a surprisingly bleak note for the protagonist. You assume he'll eventually help Toronaga become Shogun by taking the black ship, but then ends up losing nearly everything and becoming nothing more than a mere pet with a few titles which Toronaga plans to keep stranded just so he can keep learning from him. To be honest, I still don't really understand why Toronaga was so against using Blackthorne's ship, since like Blackthrone said, it would've allowed Toronaga to have the Portuguese and the Spanish by the balls and easily allowed him to become Shogun. Also, what was with all those ninjas that attacked Osaka castle? To kill Mariko? But she was literally about to commit seppuku just earlier that day. If it was just to capture her, then why not just have one of Ishido's guards detain her? Why the ninjas? Also, wasn't Toronaga ordered to commit seppuku as well? Whatever happened to that? Well, like I said, none of it seemed to make much sense in the end which sucked. I also felt like way too much time was spent between Blackthorne and Mariko and their budding romance. I would've liked to see more from other characters like Alvito, Rodrigues, or Toronaga.
It was still a pretty cool show though and showcased Japanese society of that time in an immersive and authentic way. Almost all of the Japanese dialogue isn't even subbed, which was a deliberate choice to put the audience in the same place of helplessness of the main character. I can imagine that for anyone who actually already knows how to speak Japanese the experience of watching this would be enhanced a bit. For me, I only know a handful of words from watching anime for so many years, which, of course, certainly wasn't enough to actually know what anyone was talking about. Pretty neat though how the show actually makes an effort to teach the audience about the Japanese language at times, through the character of Mariko as she's charged with teaching Blackthrone how to understand it. Sorta made me depressed how I'll probably never learn how to speak Japanese, or really any other language for that matter, but oh well. Guess I'm just another lazy dumb dumb who can only be bothered to speak their native tongue, since learning others is too hard and also just feels pretty pointless for someone who's just a hermit like me. Consuming untranslated Japanese media is pretty much the only reason for learning Japanese for someone like me, which really isn't compelling enough of a reason unfortunately.
>>53510Just wanted to add how I remembered that Ishido was holding hostages of all the other lords, including hostages related to Toronaga, at Osaka castle and Mariko was sent there to try and force/shame Ishido to release them through her suicide, since them being there would eventually force Toronaga to kill himself by decree of the other lords who also had hostages there. Ishido needed the ninjas to capture Mariko afterwards, so as to maintain plausible deniability, and to keep the hostages where they were while maintaining face. I guess that answers that, but why would Mariko committing seppuku matter at all to Ishido in the first place? He'd let all of his bargaining chips go just to save face? Still seems silly, but whatever. Also, apparently in the book, Toronaga burns Blackthorne's ship so as to win the support of all the other christian/catholic lords in Japan. In the show, it's done purely for keeping Blackthorne alive since Toronaga is certain that Blackthorne would fail to take the black ship and just as certainly die in the attempt, which he wouldn't allow. He also does it for that reason in the book, but the show could've used the extra explanation from the book of Toronaga forgoing the potential riches of the Portuguese black ship for the support of other lords in his bid to become shogun.
New Pope was fucking horrible, absolutely waste of time. Young Pope is great though, sad they ruined all the characters with New Pope.
>>53513>Why oh why must there always be a "i'm special i have free will character"
Because free will does exist. Determinism is just the Tyrant trying to convince himself that he is in complete control. Evidence to the contrary causes much tantrums and fits.
>>53515>this this and that exist for real so we must fuck up a piece of fiction by inserting a boring tropey character for the nth time to solve out our story.
I'm trying to remember another post where someone completely failed to understand the most basic premise of what fiction is, but I guess this is the first time. oh well>>53513
I read many interviews with the people involved in writing TV series and whatnot and many of them complain about the insane deadlines you have to write that stuff. I guess when you're under pressure your brain start to output the safe, out of the mill crap you've seen a million times before. Or they're just not imaginative, which happens a lot, too.
They add it so there's some manner of surprise to the story. There's no interest in a story that's predetermined. It's the same reason prophecies are awful in stories.
You personally having an irrational aversion to a particular pattern of events does not make it bad.
The freewillist thinks he's in control, not the determinist. It's the freewillist that freak out with the illusion, just look at religious people. I just hate determinism is always denied at the ending, it's like True Detective ending..the light is winning!!UGH
Yeah i expected it but i'm done with shows like these. I'll only give DARK season 3 a shot, i'll bet it will have a happy ending too. So disappointed.
Heard this was supposed to be good, so I watched it. It was alright. Was made by the same guys who did 'The Wire', which most claim is the best TV show ever. I personally thought that The Wire was pretty damn boring, but I'll admit that I didn't really give it that much of a chance when I tried to give it a watch years ago. The premise of this particular show is a bit mundane and happens to be centered around a bunch of needless hullabaloo that took place back in the 80's/90's about about getting some low income housing built for poor minorities in Yonkers (what a bizarre and silly name for a city), which triggered all the local NIMBY boomers in the area that didn't want niggers moving in next to them, but it still managed to keep my attention for the most part. Oscar Issac and Alfred Molina are both quite good in this. The courtroom drama and politics are primarily the only interesting thing in the show. Everything else I didn't much care for, especially all the melodrama which revolves around the various minority families.
As an aside, I couldn't help, but cringe when Winona Ryder and Oscar Issac's characters are bemoaning how "dull" their lives are when they manage to lose re-election to their various positions. They basically pine for how special they felt and that they can't stand not being "in the middle of things". They even refer to votes as if they're representative of some sort of "love from the public", which they can't stand living without. Is this how these people actually feel? They're supposed to be civil servants for fuck's sake, not petite celebrities thirsty for attention. Oscar Issac's character was eaten alive by angry crowds, despised, spat upon, and even received bullets from people threatening to kill him and yet he still feels all depressed about losing his bid to be reelected for mayor just becuase he's not the one in the spotlight anymore. That's some grade A mental illness right there. Normals can be so damn crazy. Jesus christ.
I also don't really get how Nick Wasicsko was a "hero" in all this, as the title of the show implies. He wasn't pro-desegregation, just pro-compliance. In the end, he was just left with holding this enormous bag of shit and had no choice, but to see it through. If he could've filed for an appeal or stalled out the process for longer so as to save his own hide, I'm fairly certain that he would've and the show even makes a point of indicating his efforts in this regard of simply trying to save his own ass. Even Spallone, the loud mouthed anti-desegregation guy in the show, was ultimately forced to comply and feel the wrath of these same boomers that tore Nick apart. In the end, somebody had to take the heat for this thing and, unfortunately for him, it just so happened to be Nick. I don't see how that makes him a hero, but maybe other people have a different definition of the word that I'm not aware of.
Also, was the actual Nick Wasicsko involved in corruption? That would explain why he, blew his brains out at the end. In the show, it just seems as if he does it because his political career is finished and his reputation is ruined, mostly by having his name be driven through the muck through that tit for tat investigation near the end there. That doesn't seem like enough of a reason for him to shoot himself, though. Why didn't he just go and become a lawyer, or something? To me it makes more sense that the actual Nick Wasicsko killed himself out of fear that something might be uncovered about him, even though none ever was apparently? I don't know, maybe the reason really did just come down to how he couldn't take the shame and sense of defeat, I guess.
Tried to watch "Dracula" on Netflix. Immediately some sarcastic independent succubus nun starts acting like someone off of Buffy, not a 19th century religious succubus. Plus, she practically blasphemes, I guess to satisfy the fedoras in the audience who would boycott the show if they portrayed religion in a serious light. Annoying. Then "DID YOU HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH DRACULA????" Christ. I know that Dracula's supposed to represent forbidden lust and such but just flat-out stating it completely ruins the metaphorical power of the portrayal, just utterly missing the point. Then it cuts to the past and the guy's wife starts joking about cheating on him. What the hell? Why are the succubi in this show all sarcastic whores? I'm tired of how in modern urban fantasy every character has to be snarky and joking all the time. At this point it became clear that this series would be nothing but Marvel movie style propaganda, so I quit.
I liked "Penny Dreadful" quite a bit. The plot does get unwieldy at times, but the great acting and high production values always made it fun to watch.
Unfortunately, I found the new spin-off series to be disappointing and I quit watching after a few episodes. The writing is pretty bad and the way it treats race relations in 1930s Los Angeles is tedious and cartoonish. The only highlights for me were the great sets and seeing Natalie Dormer play four very different characters in the show.
>The title refers to the penny dreadfuls, a type of 19th-century British fiction publication with lurid and sensational subject matter. The series draws upon many public domain characters from 19th-century British and Irish Gothic fiction, including Dorian Gray from Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray; Mina Harker, Abraham Van Helsing, John Seward, Renfield, and Count Dracula from Bram Stoker's Dracula; Victor Frankenstein and his monster from Mary Shelley's Frankenstein; and Henry Jekyll from Robert Louis Stevenson's Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Justine from Justine, or The Misfortunes of Virtue by the Marquis de Sade also appears. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Dreadful_(TV_series)>Penny Dreadful: City of Angels is set nearly 50 years after the original series, during the Golden Age of Hollywood in the 1930s. It takes place in 1938 Los Angeles, a time and place "deeply infused with Mexican-American folklore and social tension." The characters are connected in a conflict between the Mexican folklore deity, Santa Muerte, the caretaker of the dead and guide to the great beyond, and her spiritual sister, the demoness Magda, who believes mankind is inherently evil and sets out to prove her point. Detective Tiago Vega and his partner, veteran Detective Lewis Michener, are tasked with a gruesome murder case and soon become embroiled in LA's history, as well as its present, as racial tensions, the looming threat of war, and Nazi conspiracies threaten to derail them at every turn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Dreadful:_City_of_Angels
I had the misfortune of watching this dreck as well. Be glad you were wise enough to stop before the third episode where genderswap van helsing traps Dracula in a box and snarks at him for an hour. What else can one expect from Netflix?
I liked the first sesson and was halfway through season two I think during the Frankenstein monster/immoral immortals arc but stopped watching tv altogether and never remembered to pick it back up.
Eventually I might catch up but have been busy lately.
The guy on JRE is always talking about some optimisitc god is all around us spiritual bullshit so the series doesn't seem appealing, if your worldview isn't based on the world being a horrible shithole, I'm not interested in your series m8.
This utter drivel again…
Doing drugs and acting like they have discovered something new outside of their pretentious bubbles
Thanks wizzo, i'll check it out
I thought this was going to be an actual story-based cartoon.
Now it reminds me of Shorties watching shorties or Dr.Katz, where they set stand up to a cartoon.
It's utter woke garbage made my pseudo-intellectuals who probably wore google glass and ride electric scooters
What exactly about it is pseudo-intellectual?
Imagine how fucking cool it would be if everything turned out as predicted - BAM, a statement, determinism BITCH. And everybody loose their shit and off themselves.
Talking about drugs, god, the universe, quantum-physics, consciousness, all meme subjects of people that watch Joe Rogan podcast and think that makes them smart.
Instead of watching this 20min garbage, how about you sit through a 2 hour youtube seminar of a harvard physicist?
Exactly, you'd rather feel smart for 20mins than actually learn something.>Hey bruh did you see that mindnight gospel epidode? Sooo cool and far out, yeeeah i totaly get it
I'm a bit confused about what exactly you have a problem with. Do you think that it's impossible to present ideas about "drugs, god, the universe, quantum-physics, consciousness" in formats other than college lectures? Or do you think that only the intellectual elite has a right to discuss these things? You didn't bring up anything specific from the show so it's difficult to understand.
I don't have to explain it, it's clear to anyone watching the show that it completely lacks nuance and is a lazy attempt to appear smart. There has been a trend lately to create 'wacky' animations that all rip from adventure time, RnM and the rest, yet they just do it so badly that it's worth calling out.
In the end it my opinion, so take it or leave it.
Because your talking about scientism vs science.
Get a grip. Shrooms are fun. They can give you some cool perspectives on things because of how they work on your brain.
But it’s so stupid to fetishize it the way you do. If a Harvard physicist takes shrooms, he might come up with a new theory or solve a nagging math problem he can’t figure out because he can approach it from a new angel.
But this is because he’s got all this studying under his belt.
Your goofy ass isn’t going to unlock any type of esoteric whatever.
You are, quite literally, just tripping.
>>54620>But it’s so stupid to fetishize it the way you do
What? How am I fetishizing drugs?
Ignore the normgroid, they're one of those "anti SJWs are the same as SJWs" type of radical centrist faggots that act like they're so edgy because they have no values or morals
I got a degree in astrophysics but still think I learnt than that from one LSD trip. And from art.
It is completely irrelevant that you're 'just tripping on drugs'. The experience occurs and changes your worldview regardless of the cause. These things are internal, it has nothing to do with solving a real world problem.
It's impossible to disagree with someone's internal experience and claim that they're wrong; if they say they experienced something extremely profound, then that is true to them. It doesnt make sense to call it an illusion.
I think you should study more psychology and less astrophysics>your internal perceptions of the world are true
>The series focuses on the origin story of famed defense lawyer Perry Mason. In 1932, Los Angeles is prospering while the rest of the U.S. is recovering from the grip of the Great Depression. Down-and-out private investigator Perry Mason is struggling with his trauma from The Great War and being divorced. He's hired for a sensational child kidnapping trial and his investigation portends major consequences for Mason, his client, and the city itself.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Mason_(2020_TV_series)
This was good, but not great. Matthew Rhys did a wonderful job as Perry Mason. It's nice to see him again, because he was the lead actor in one of my all time favorite shows, the Cold War espionage thriller "The Americans."
They clearly had a big budget, but something about the 1930s street scenes and sets felt lifeless and fake. The story never really pulled me in, but most of the performances were first class.
There's not a lot of progressive, politically correct messaging, but it's certainly still there in each and every episode. The finale tonight strongly suggests they plan to double down on race and feminism in season two.
For a while when I was considering a law career, I liked the idea that Perry Mason was a lawyer who had adventures like a noir private detective. It romanticized law. So idk much about the topic, but kinda disappointing they took away the lawyer aspect, and made him just another private dick in this version
Gene Roddenberry injects his communist utopia delusions into everything in TNG. Also he banned the writers from having interpersonal conflicts with the crew since he thought that everyone should always work together perfectly in his vision of the future. TNG only really gets good once you get to the seasons after Roddenberry had his stroke. It's really funny though that even a communist like Roddenberry looks like an right wing extremist when compared to the shallow shameless propaganda that is modern day Star Trek. I mean at least he believed in something.
All in all, Deep Space 9 is the best Star Trek show.
The original is so boring i fell aslep
I used to watch voyager I thought ds9 to be boring but whatever it's been 10 years since I last watched that show
I like the original the best
My favorite without a doubt.
I enjoyed voyager too.
Wasn't a fan of Deep space 9 or the original show.
This is a spoiler free post. So I just finished watching the first season of Star Trek TNG. 26 episodes. I love it. Not knowing anything about Star Trek and going headfirst was the right idea. I had this vague idea that ST was about a bunch of guys in silly uniforms with people with silly rubber masks that we suppose to believe were aliens. Now I realize it's exactly that visually, but the dialogues is where everything is at. It's so smart at times, it has good, endearing characters and above everything else, it really makes you care for them. I really enjoy how optimistic it is, I understand now it really has a place in fiction history. It's so unbelievably refreshing to watch a show where they actually believe violence should be the last resort. The idea of humanity having improved beyond its old ways and achieved a higher standard towards life really makes you feel the Enterprise and its crew are from a future where we did something right. Pursuit of knowledge, wisdom, compassion, honor and so on. It's really a heartwarming view of the future, at least so far.
I like the fact that even when it's bad it's the good type of bad. There's always something interesting going on, even on bad episodes. Even on the purely space opera episodes I managed to have some fun. All the characters are interesting. They are mostly one dimensional characters; Tasha Yar is the head of security, who grow up in a shithole colony and had a tough upbringing, Worf is the Klingon warrior who has to adapt to human society, Data is an android curious about everything, La Forge is a blind guy who can see better than anyone else, Wesley is the annoying kid that knows better than everyone else, his Mother Dr. Crusher is the doctor with a romantic interest on Picard, Troi is the half Betazoid that can almost read thoughts and sense emotions, Riker is the good looking, all smiles commander, and the heart of the show captain Picard, who is there to make sure those higher 24th century new human standards humanity fought hard to achieve remains intact and operating in all their missions.
Those character they don't exactly grow (at least so far, I just watched season 1 of 7), and there's so much stuff that's silly and makes no sense (for example the prime directive) but it's always fun and the characters become really interesting to watching during all the crazy stuff that's throw at them. I've grown so fond of those characters that I began to develop strong expectations on how they should deal with the situations coming up and get angry when they go against their well established character traits, for example when commander Riker let's captain Picard go to a hostile planet or Picard being a moron and getting outsmarted by Wesley and so on.
So yeah, so far I'm really enjoying it. I have a lot more to say about it but I'll watch the rest of the seasons before that.
Here's a list of my top 5 favorite episodes from season 1 in no particular order.
1-Encounter at Farpoint - Shakespeare in space, also presentation of all the characters, a very nice start.
2-Where No One Has Gone Before - An insight on what is the universe on Star Trek and how it works. Plus we see some of the nature of the Enterprise itself.
3-When The Bough Breaks - The crew tries to help a civilization that can't have offspring anymore.
4-Hide and Q - The classic Temptation of Christ scenario, but in space.
Heart of Glory - Mr. Worf faces his primal instincts when the Enterprise rescues a group of Klingons.
5-Skin of Evil - A really interesting concept for a classical villain character.>>54910
To me it's either an entertaining piece of fiction or not. So far I've been finding very entertaining.>>54911
I read a lot of fans saying a lot of episodes from the old show was rather boring. I don't know, I feel like watching it now because there's a lot of references on TNG about the original series.>>54918
I read a lot of reviews and opinions before picking up TNG and apparently it's a favorite among lots of fans. I'm very happy with the choice.
Season 2,3,4,5,6,7 here I come.
Watching the original ruined Star Trek for me, so boring and old and crappy music also
Finished the second season. 22 episodes this time. I think it's better than the first season, with a couple of episodes being really, really good. We get to explore more of all character's backstories and see more of the strange ST universe that oftentimes are just mirrors we can gaze at and see our own problems and difficulties thinly veiled in an alien rubber mask. It's more entertaining than you might think. Here's a list of my favorite episodes and a couple of my least favorite ones.
Where Silence Has Lease - The Enterprise encounters a very powerful entity eager to learn about humans, treating the crew like lab rats.
Elementary, Dear Data - I love this type of trope where fictional characters realize they're fictional. It's executed here with a lot of charm.
A Matter of Honor - A closer look at Klingons. This one is interesting to me specially because I knew nothing about Klingons and I know they're a huge piece of ST lore. Nice watch, a lot of screen time to Mr. Worf, an interesting character that doesn't get a lot of attention in many episodes.
The Measure of a Man - One of my favorites of this season. A courtroom drama where Picard has to challenge a rulling saying Mr. Data is starfleet propriety. A basic discussion about life, rights and slavery, done in charming ST fashion.
Pen Pals - Another favorite. After Data come in contact with a doomed alien species, the crew has to decide to save them and break prime directive, or let them be destroyed. Again, a discussion on friendship, loyalty and compassion, done in charming ST fashion.
Q Who - My favorite episode of Star Trek so far. Scary, intriguing alien life, Q and Picard in a battle of wits. Very, very, very good. Love it.
The Royale - It's funny because I was reading reviews of episodes when I finish a season and this one is particularly disliked by trekkies. Thing is I liked the premisse so much I don't even care about the rest. It's another one of those "man realizes he's stuck in a fictional universe" scenario that I like so much.
Now for a couple I really disliked it.
Manhunt - Troi's mother comes to the Enterprise and tries to have sex with Picard and then Riker. That's it. Awful.
Shades of Gray - Worst episode of TNG so far. Not even an episode, it's just clips of previous episodes presented as Riker's memories while he's in a coma fighting an alien infection in his brain. Abysmal.
Samaritan Snare - Riker suddenly becomes the stupidest humanoid in the galaxy, along with everyone else on the Enterprise, just so this plot could happen.
Thanks wizzie, even thought i hated the original series (it was boring and shit) your reviews are comfy and give me hope that in a couple years when i rinse my memories of that abomination i can try again with TNG
>>54948>there's so much stuff that's silly and makes no sense (for example the prime directive)
what are you talking about, it makes perfect sense, on the face of it and from the point of view of a peaceful galactic government not wanting another alien war
Just finished third season. It keeps getting better. Good episodes are the norm for third season, I'm impressed how much it improved from the first two. We get to see more of the human and klingon cultures, more of the Romulans, etc. Very emotionally charged episodes here, touching motherhood to war, to PTSD, to daydreaming. Here's a list of my favorites.
The Enemy - La Forge forms an unexpected partnership with a Romulan in order to survive.
The Defector - A Romulan defector goes to the Federation in order to stop a war.
Déjà Q - Star Trek comedy done right. Q is absolutely hilarious here.
The Offspring - One of my favorite episodes of this season. Data creates another android.
Sins of the Father - Worf has to goes back to the Klingon empire in order to face accusations against his father.
Tin Man - A weird form of life is found and only an reclusive betazoid psychic can talk to it.
Hollow Pursuits - A member of the Enterprise battles video game addiction (actually holodeck addiction but it's the same thing, almost) and his real life crumbles apart as he becomes more and more negligent towards his real world responsabilities.
The Best of Both Worlds - The Borg are back and holy shit what a great season finale!>>54991
From the reviews I read, only a couple episodes of the first season are tos-like episodes, I think you'll enjoy TNG. I hope you watch it some of it soon so I can talk about it with you.>>55027
It does makes sense. I would love that something like the prime directive was a thing back during the expansion of the Portuguese and the Spanish empires. Imagine letting the great mesoamerican civilizations like the Mayas or the Incas to evolve by themselves up to present day or at least until they could cross oceans by themselves. Growing up I was fascinated by the Incas and would imagine what they would be like if they were let on their own. I think that's what the writers had in mind when coming up with this idea. My problem with the prime directive is a little more on the practical side of things. They break it all the time. If you're reading my posts you know I'm no ST expert, all I ever watched was the first 3 seasons of The Next Generation.
The problem of PD's non-intervention is that the Federation don't actually follow it, or at least it has many possible interpretarions and nobody is ever punished for bending it however they see fit. Here's a list of episodes I seen so far that clearly breaks PD beyond reasonable doubt.
Too Short a Season - A starfleet officer gives Federation weapons for both sides of a conflict. His interpretation of the PD for this is that "by giving the same weapons to both sides he would still be giving both sides a winning chance thus respecting PD rules".
Symbiosis - Picard breaks PD here by saving a shipment of drugs that was about to get destroyed but then don't give them ship's parts they need to continue transportation of the drugs because by doing so he believes he's protecting PD when he already broke it when he saved the shipment in the first place.
Pen Pals - Enterprise saves an entire planet from destruction because Data made a friend with one of its inhabitants.
Who Watches the Watchers - The Federation has a team of scientists hidden inside a proto-vulcan planet in order to study them. They fuck up and reveal themselves. The Enterprise then goes in to meddle some more in order to unmeddle the meddling. Just a mess.
Nobody is actually punished for PD violations, at least I have not seen any reprisals against Picard or the Enterprise and Picard does report all of those things on his official logs which I assume someone is reading it. The main problem I think is that the Enterprise is more on the side of humanitarian aid than non-intervention. Every time Picard has to decide between not doing anything or helping, thus interfering, he always goes with helping. All his medical officers seem to go completely against PD if it will enable them to save lives. I would like to see the entry for humanitarian aid on the Prime Directive rulebook. I'm sure that entry alone would be volumes long.
Another problem I see is how advanced a culture needs to be for you to be allowed to contact and interact with? Sometimes it seems they only need to be aware that there are other life forms beyond their own planet (pen pals) other times not even when that planet has interplanetary spaceships you're supposed to intervene (Symbiosis). It's inconsistent, but that's expected given the fact there are so many writers behind each episode. They use different versions of the PD, going for whatever works for that episode. I'm not complaining of course, whatever works to a good plot works for me.
Finally, Enterprise has just too many functions that makes it almost impossible for them to follow non-intervention. One day they're carrying diplomatic missions, the other pure exploration, hauling cargo, transporting delegates, policing, scientific field work. In one episode, Tin Man, they find about this life form they know nothing about, but apparently rushing to contact it is not a PD violation, if it means beating the Romulans of contacting it first. Then the whole thing is justified when they save the alien from being destroyed by the Romulans, even though the alien itself wants to die
. I really like the idea of the PD, it's just that it's really hard not to break it when you're obviously more on the side of a humanitarian services provider than a passive observer. Still, it's really interesting in theory. I would like to see the Enterprise letting a whole planet die of a plague under the guise of the PD and see how the characters react to it. So far they're always pushed into action by some last second technicality, which saves the crews from dealing with actual consequences of non-intervention. Maybe there is such an episode, we'll see.
Anyway, I'm really enjoying it. I love how optimistic ST is, I love how they present high ideals for humanity without looking obnoxious or imposing. Really well written most of the time.
This video explains it better than I could, thanks. Just one nitpick, at 12:15 he suggests that the extinction of an entire planet should qualify for intervention. At least based on what happens on Pen Pals, it does not qualify. Picard strongly implies they should not be saving Drema IV in that episode. They have a heated discussion about it and again, one of the medical officers openly argues against Prime Directive there. I think Med schools in the 24th century have a lot of professors who are openly against the PD on philosophical grounds and argue for humanitarian aid not be a violation of the PF or at least to be acceptable, which is not according to Picard, but it is according to both medical officers we see on the show, Pulaski and Crusher. Again, I would love to watch an episode that talks about this conflict on PD policy. It seems we have two sides, PD conservatives, who take non-intervention to an extreme, probably following its origins on Vulcan philosophy and policy, and effective altruists, who argue human technology should be used to aid all sentience life out there, except of course if they threaten peaceful coexistence.
I suspect there's an episode out there where extinction does qualify for intervention, I guess I'll know soon.
About Symbiosis, they still had a couple of space freighters left. That might have influenced Picard's decision to not give the parts for the ship, he knows they can still continue trade for at least a little while before everything described in the video happens.
One more thing I forgot to talk about on my season 2 and 3 posts. The guy playing Riker is so fat by season 2, I don't happened to him. He was probably on donut only diet in between seasons. They even gave him a beard to hide the double chin. He continues to inflate like a balloon on season 3, I wonder if he will be using an electric cart by the fifth season.
I just watched The Mandalorian. It was honestly great and I'm surprised a television series that is both modern and a part of Disney Star Wars turned out to be so enjoyable. Highly recommended if you like space westerns with stoic protagonist.
Keep watching wizzie, first and second season is weak compared to third season on, but watching the first two makes you care, making the later seasons even better. If you're enjoying those first episodes you'll love what's in store for you farther in.
Also wiz, use spoilers, there are other wizzies out there who might want to watch it for themselves.
Execution is more important than plot in Star Trek, spoilers don't really ruin the viewing experience.
Using spoilers is the considerate thing to do when talking about plot points here on /hob/. It's possible not everyone agrees with your assessment on what is important on a ST story, specially considering how varied they are.
doesnt he norm up in the end?
no, if you're remembering the "Nth degree" episode he makes a pass on troi but he was basically possessed by an alien computer program that screwed with his personality, the rest of the barclay episodes in TNG and voyager didn't have anything romantic
I'm the other star trek wiz btw, watched em all like 3x over
People are only allotted a certain amount of time and most holodeck use must be scheduled well in advance.
Anyone seen Apple Original Ravens Banquet? It's a fun little show about video game devs.
What are guys watching that's currently airing?
Finished season 2 of The Boys and it was pretty disappointing compared to the first.
Currently following along with Fargo S4 and there's that familiar Fargo feel but I'm just not buying the characters, especially the whole wise negro act.
Still waiting for Billions S5 to finish airing. What's the point of getting to stay home if I can't even watch muh soap operas?
Watched through Billions a few times, and S5 is an utter shitstain that is barely even coherent. Every 3rd sentence is some stupid obscure reference also. All of the characters have lost any sense of actual complexity and become walking caricatures.
Can't say I'm expecting anything different when it comes back.
There are zero (0) good shows currently airing.
Agreed. The last episode that aired was just a peak meme tier reference, like a parody of the actual show. Definitely dropped in quality since season 1.>>55966
Managed to find a relatively obscure show called Warrior currently airing. Despite the generic name, it's a really good kung-fu drama set in the US after the Civil War. Initially I thought it was going to be some woke non-sense, but the racism isn't just added on top like in Fargo, but it's an actual deep part of the characters. The fights are pretty good and I'm really enjoying the soundtrack.
Warrior sounds pretty cool.
I will have to check it out.
waiting for south park and the expanse
I finished it last night, gotta say I really didn't like the ending, he got the succubus off the hook just with that dumb speech, come on.
>There's not a lot of progressive, politically correct messaging, but it's certainly still there in each and every episode
Yeah, they try harder and harder to make the husband look like the bad guy, while the wife who was having sex the kid's kidnapper
was just a poor victim because misogyny.
I thought the show was ok but I won't bother with a new season.>>55646
My favorite current show is Succession, just a drama centered around a family full of awful people
Can any one recommend me some non-pozzed science fiction or mystery series? I'm rewatching Monk yet again and I need something new. Don't mind how old it is as long as it's engaging.
You could give "The Prisoner" a try, though it's not for everybody.>Some of my readers may wonder why I have bothered so much about a television series. But film is art, and I would go so far as to say that it is the Gesamtkunstwerk, the total work of art. It is capable of profundity, and of moving us in a way that no other art form can. And The Prisoner is serious film, and perhaps the greatest television series ever made. Like a great work of literature, it rewards us with something new each time we return to it.
The Prisoner is a 1967 British avant-garde social science fiction television series about an unnamed British intelligence agent who is abducted and imprisoned in a mysterious coastal village, where his captors try to find out why he abruptly resigned from his job.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner
Good series but I was hoping for something a bit less oppressive in tone. I'm wanting escapism more than a hard series.
Thank you for the suggestion.
Try Mythic Quest: Ravens Banquet.
Was watching Space Force. But honestly it was barely funny. And by the third or fourth episode was becoming a chore to get through. Am also watching the new season of Shark Tank as it airs.
I am rewatching 'Yes Minister' as well and it's a classic. Do recommend more British comedy shows guys.
The premise of the first season was alright. A trained supersoldier who follows a strict code of conduct is forced to hop from one system to the other, protecting a small creature that holds a mysterious power, having to shed off his old bounty hunter ways while learning about how working alone isn't always the best option, and gradually discovering the art of a long forgotten power that his cargo possesses. The first few episodes were like Kino No Tabi if you liked that premise, for lack of better comparison. It doesn't suffer from much of the flaws of NuWars and it actually acknowledges the oldschool Trade Federation / Techno Union assaults from The Clone Wars era instead of trying to retcon in new past adversaries. It's sympathetic to the Empire at times and also subtly paints the rebels as almost barbaric at times, much like with Saw Gerrera in Rogue One.
Unfortunately the ending of the first season suggests that the second part will be more of a group struggle, dispoving of the quiet comfy space travel instances shared by Mando and the creatuire (It's not actually Yoda despite plebs saying it's baby Yoda), but all in all it's a solid watch if you enjoyed the first 6 Star Wars films
I'm trying to get through episode two of Chernobyl, and I was already having trouble with the OC fictional female scientist character, but then she goes and says that the uranium hitting the water reservoirs could cause an, and I quote "2 - 4 megaton explosion". What the fuck? How could they let something like this into the show? That's tens of thousands of orders of magnitude off of what is actually possible. One hundred tons would be a high, VERY high estimate. Not two million.
He said ASAC schrader as in assistant special agent
Sons of Anarchy good show, probably as close to a 10/10 as I can expect to see in my life, bare long so I'll just list some good shit about it
-an entirely good cast, usually I'm surprised if I watch something that gives me just a singular lead character that I am genuinely invested in, but even the minor characters in Sons get far more attention than expected, in the beginning Tig is just the hitman who follows orders and also a necrophile, on paper a largely forgettable soldier type, but by the end he's got as much of a character arc as the main character, even Jax's dumbass 5 year old son gets developed
-on a similar note, Gemma specifically, as a general rule I am excessively bored by female characters, as their characterisation can just be summed up by 'I love my husband', can count the number of actually interesting female characters on one hand, and Gemma's one of them, probably just gonna be bad for me in the long term, because in everything else I watch now I'm just going to be wondering if Gemma can be good why this one can't be
-everything matters, there aren't any throwaway encounters, there's nobody that gets introduced in one episode and forgotten immediately afterwards, the shit they do has an effect, even when it goes well there's always a blowback of some sort, which goes a long way in making me retain interest in all of the story, there's not really a bad part, when they had to go to Ireland I figured it was just going to be a get in get out situation, but they had all sorts of shit they had to unpack afterwards
-accordingly, the dialogue is meaningful, back in primary school you'd have to read a page long document and then answer a bunch of questions about it, but 90% of the stuff you read doesn't matter, that's how it feels with most shit out there, but in Sons there isn't really an instance where I felt like I just wanted them to get on it, the dialogue's actually meaningful, and honestly I just like listening to them negotiate business deals and that
-more or less from the get go there's a conflict between Clay, the gunboat diplomat old president, and Jax, the young VP who likes to avoid killing people if he can help it, over time Jax does more extreme shit but it was always proportional, I was kind of predicting that eventually Jax was just become Clay, because that's what happens in a story like that, but he didn't, he did some pretty mental shit, like gouging out Moses' eye and cutting his fingers in revenge for Bobby, but it was always proportional, only time he does it is because Clay was a retarded boomer who got him into deep shit, not saying it's a bad direction, just an observation
-yeah it's good
Ye good show. I watched it a long time ago.
Crazy how Gemma killed Tara in that scene.
Check out mindhunters if you haven't watched that yet.
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So, Walt says that Hank's name is Hank and that the nazis should let him go because of that, and his offering. The nazis ask for Hank's opinion on this. By replying that his name is Isaac Schrader instead of Hank Schrader, he is telling the nazis, through biblical allusion, that he wishes to be sacrificed to God (his ideals) rather than to be saved.