No.67385
>>67383Would work for awhile provided you remain consistent in number of workouts and slowly increase weight and/or volume.
No.67386
>>67383if u new drop shrugs, squat, and overhead press
No.67393
>>67384Thanks for the suggestion.
>>67385I know consistency and progressive overload are key.
>>67386>>67387Yeah dude please elab.
No.67394
Btw what do you guys think of nucleus overload? Is it bullshit or legit?
No.67395
>>67394Don't know enough about it to have a truly informed opinion. That said I think it falls in the category of things advanced lifters look into to squeeze just a tiny amount of extra gains when they are near their natural limits.
So unless you are that far along that you plateaued with more conventional stuff, I don't think it's really worth worrying too much about.
No.67456
>>51836My view is this: if you want to deadlift, you should deadlift. If you just want to be fit, there are many other hip hinge movements that are far safer and more effective at hitting the glutes/hams. RDLs, back extensions and good mornings are good examples. They're also less fatiguing because there is less weight involved, which lets you get more volume in over the week. Tom Platz and Robert Oberst has the same view. The risk to reward ratio is very bad
No.67667
I have back problems so I just do bodyweight exercises.
No.67668
>>67667I've heard people say that Deadlifts fixed their back problems
No.67669
>>67668There are many kinds of back problems and ways of approaching deadlifts.
No.67671
>>51836I lost weight still eating all the crap I enjoy in excess by intermittent fasting, if you eat enough in one sitting for 2 days, then don't eat for two days
No.67672
>>67671Caloric deficit works regardless of how you do it.
How some people pretend they just can't lose weight like it isn't in their control always struck me as weird.
If you ain't bodybuilding or something it really ain't complicated.
No.67673
>>67671>if you eat enough in one sitting for 2 days, then don't eat for two daysMany guys consider the body to be tuned for this exact scenario. A successful hunt in gorged upon completely as to not waste meat and then there's a period of digestion and repair before the hunter can exert himself on another prey.
No.67674
>>67672When you're a fatass your stomach will make the rumblies from just eating a normal amount of food, the stomach has a mind of its own and wants the amount it's used to having no idea it's bad, that's why fatties when trying to lose weight they do OMAD one meal a day that's like 2000 calories just so they can feel full.
No.67695
>>67394as the other wiz said, its mostly something you do once you have at the very least been lifting for a good while or have had a history of lifting in the past. it is very effective and also doesnt waste your time. if you are a beginner then do starting strength, get real fat and strong, then do nucleus overload and recomp until your body is in acceptable shape
No.67696
>>67393>>67387also dont listen to the idiot telling you not to squat or overhead press. though when doing the OHP you really need to be strict and make sure you're not bending the hell out of your spine. shrugs are probably unnecessary though since the other exercises you have listed already are effective for back and trap strength
No.67697
>>67695>get real fatNo way!
No.67738
my form when deadlifting was always bad. I never see anyone else in a gym doing them and it's a bit of a hassle to set up just to do a couple of sets. Nice numbers though op
No.67739
>>67192Facebook reels. Lots of techniques and posture tricks.
No.67837
>>67150>Even 5 pounds can cause issues eventually and it has no measurable benefits.I used to use 30 pounds…
No.67838
>>67837£30 is a little much to pay for a set of 2.5kg gloves…
No.68114
I'm the only one at my gym who deadlifts, or does anything with the Olympic bars really. It's almost as if the whole matted section of the gym is just for me, if it wasn't occupied during daylight hours by succubi doing weird sitting wrist curls and stuff there because it's the closest mirror they can get to. Stinky bitchezzz stop peeing on my mat!!!!
My grip strength has me peaked at 300lb for measly single lift. I must go shopping
>>67839
Not true at all. Why would someone think this? Answer: because weak idiot
No.68133
Gave myself some sort of back injury doing squats with poor form and going up in weight too fast now I'm having to not go to the gym for a week to recover. At least my gym has a pool I can go to for some cardio that's light on the joints. Remember to be careful wizards.
No.68137
>>68133Spinal decompression should be done before and every heavyweight back and leg sets. Just 15 seconds of hanging from a bar can help
No.68670
>>68115I thought that mixed grip was more liable to cause a bicep injury in the arm that's supinated.
No.68671
>>68670It is. Reverse grip has no benefit. If it's the only grip that is comfortable then there is something wrong with your wrists, and endangering your entire arm isn't worth making a HIT exercise more comfy.
No.68672
>>68671Mixed grip is used to lift more weight during dead lift when not wearing straps. It has nothing to do with comfort.
>>68670Usually it's a trade off between making it easier to bail to avoid leg and back injures, but there is a slight increase in the risk to bicep injury.
This is in the context of lifting very heavy, like near or even at the very limit of your strength. So no matter what you are dealing with a risk of serious injury. Mix grip is a way of mitigating certain risk for a lesser one.
No.69507
Working out and feeling good about getting stronger only to see random manual laborer lifts more than you with ease.
No.69512
>>69511>why bother being healthy and feeling good when there exist other people who are healthier than meSuccubus.
No.69515
>>69514
Depends on your goals and proclivities.
Like I workout to make myself better at my hobbies and make my work feel easier.
I don't need to be the biggest most strongest in the whole world for it to be worth my time.
No.69543
>>51836>Does anyone also have tips on how to feel full and not feel the need to eat food?>drink lots of water>compensate lack of carbs with fiber and lean(ish) protein>consume only good fat, no vegetable oil at all>take most of the carbs of your day in the pre-workout meal (if a full meal, eat 2 hours before training), so you feel energized in your training session and to use the consumed energy effectively>cut off stupid "food" like candy and soda, use your sugars strategicallyA useful diet tidbit. If you're a food enthusiast, transform your meal into a delish by using different seasoning and adapting existent recipes to your goals. For example, I make yakisoba with extra meat and vegetables and less noodles.
A huge beef or chicken thigh with great seasoning and some BBQ sauce (here's your strategic sugar) as a full meal, for instance. If you think the sodium is too much, chug down your water. Impossible to feel empty. And an idea for a snack:
>ground lean meat (80%)>oat powder (20%)Make meatballs with those ingredients, go light on the seasoning and store them in the freezer. Whenever you crave for crap food, shove some of these bad boys in an air fryer and you're good to go.
No.70032
>>51836I don't deadlift because I am too tall and have slipped discs in my back. Wish I could tho.
I wont be reading all the replies but I am also addicted to eating and how I go about not eating all day is drinking a lot of water and tea. Makes me feel full and drinking a cup of tea almost gives me the same feeling as snacking. And if you really want something to eat just eat rice cakes, celery and stuff like that
No.70088
>>51836
>Right now I'm 80 lbs overweight and need to stop eating so much food. The problem is I'm addicted to food and since I'm a 28 year old virgin, it's not like I have much else to do
>it's not like I have much else to do
>it's not like I have much else to doRandom, VERY RANDOM piece of advice from a 30-something fatty who gets his food from a bakery/from his mum
If you're like me - as in not designed for high education - you really, REALLY ought to try to upgrade yourself to a cook, who *professes* at spending his time to process fine stock into fine food.
I mean, a proper *trades school* cook - if you are a NEET - would give a job that allows you both a earn $$ salary (not $ poor, not $$$ rich, but have some room for fun) AND you'll probably get a chance to recycle undemanded food as your extra calorie supply, kekw.
Middle ground: learn *some* tricks from "Well Cultured Anonymous" free e-book
>Does anyone here do deadlifts? I'm thinking about working to get a god-tier deadlift. My first goal is to make it up to 405lbs deadlift and then see how far I can take it from there. Right now I can do 255 for 5x5. Any wizbros here with tips? You didn't mention what's your height, your overall weight, but you seem to be okay already and you probably need advice how to get FURTHER muscle gains. Hmmmm. Subbed to the thread.
No.70622
>>70621I know a lot of people use these to hang themselves.
Anyway I don't see the use of lifting for health issues, unless you need to strenghten specific muscles or something.
This isn't going to clear an infection or heal injury.
But I am glad you are seeing improvement.
No.70629
>>70622>Anyway I don't see the use of lifting for health issuesA good chunk of the human population exists under constant spinal and abdominal compression. After years this brings about a myriad of negative side effects and causes the body to grow in a weird way to accommodate the constant stresses. A caveman in nature is also under the constant affliction of gravity but the active lifestyle he leads at least shifts the load around periodically. Deadhanging, incline laying, swimming, and even just jumping rope can take load off of the spine long enough to counteract these effects.
No.70630
>>70629I don't think people are really similar to cavemen, anywhere where civilisation sprung up there was farming of carbohydrates and use of written language.
I think cavemen just gathered and hunted and their mental capabilities where very limited. Their lives must have been animal-like and they must have had some kind of primal beliefs which predates polytheistic religion. Something like Hinduism but that which came before it and eventually reached it's climax with it, and eventually faded away.
Sorry for diverging the discussion.
I get your point about activity keeping your body healthy.
No.70631
>>70630Rather insulting view of hunters-gatherers. They needed to be sharp and strong to survive unstable conditions. Farmers - not so much.
No.70632
>>70631>Rather insulting view of hunters-gatherers. They needed to be sharp and strong to survive unstable conditions. Farmers - not so much.They literally didn't survive, only some tribes exist in South American rainforests and the Congo Basin today.
I wouldn't exactly call these guys sharp, they lack the most rudimentary tech like clothing and shelter, and even isolated desert tribes have a more advanced society as they farm goats and such.
Their worldview is largely centered around pleasing the local spirits, Gods or ghosts and they live an animal like existence, where their entire life is centered around the struggle for food.
I wouldn't call them strong either, their muscles might look impressive but their survival rates and life expectancy is very low not only compared to the modern world but other primitive people's which at least have agriculture and writing.
No.70636
Do you practicers of strength training also do some cardio (running, biking) regularly ? Isn't it dangerous to only strength training with no cardio at all and a sedentary lifestyle ?
No.70637
>>70636>Isn't it dangerous to only strength training with no cardio at allHow could anybody possibly come to that conclusion? Someone must have a pretty warped definition of the word "dangerous" to make any sort of assumption like that.
No.70638
>>70636At some point a valid consideration - seems like balance is in order and probably healthier.
No.70639
>>51839> I know they're probably all laughing at me on the inside because I'm an overweight virginNobody cares bro!
t. regular gym-goer
No.70640
>>70636running and walking are boring
i don't do them outside of walking to the store to get groceries
No.70650
>>70639>Nobody cares bro!This is wrong in two diametrically opposed ways and right in one way.
On one pole is the fact that I and many people would rather not be afflicted by the smelly air and stinky sweat of the obese. It's universally understood that fat people are unclean and their very skin excretes poison. Like cooties but for fat people. Foodies. For the sake of everyone besides him, I hope that sometime in the past 5 years that user has lost his excess bodyfat and he's no longer a pollutant. It's why I wipe the machines BEFORE I use them.
On the other pole, many who go to the gym have come to learn how good it feels to exercise and be fit so they become happy when they see others working towards feeling good. These empathic normaltards mentally invest in the hope that the fat guy loses his fat for the sake of his own health. Care is had that another unhealthy body becomes healthy for the mutual benefit of the beholder and the onlooker.
The way it's right is that there are a lot of people who just don't care, and that itself is split in to to opposed reasons. These people either don't have the cognition to process the quality of people they're sharing space with, or they've transcended beyond judgement all together. Neither afflicted nor benefited.
t. regular nighttime gym-goer