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I now consider researching conspiracy theories to be a hobby of mine. Of course, as a hikki, this information is of literally no use to me whatsoever, and I do not have the charisma to "educate" others. It is simply a pastime.
Many people act like simply researching these very alternative ideas is damaging in and of itself. Popular on wizchan youtuber named "K9 Aversion" recently announced she will no longer be creating content simply because people among her fanbase were discussing 5G towers and anti-vaxx ideas within her communities. Discussion alone is so offensive? Why? I do not even believe many of the ideas proposed myself and just enjoy thinking about them.
Because of these extreme reactions, I feel it necessary to give this disclaimer. Again, I do not necessarily believe the things proposed in this thread but rather enjoy thinking about it.

Please do not discuss theories that are political in nature in this thread. I don't want it to be deleted, although I find them interesting as well.

Some examples I've been thinking about lately:
- Alien abductions are real, however they differ from the normalfag idea of an alien abduction in that real abductions occur spiritually and not physically. And these abductions are NEVER to your benefit and you leave very unhealthy and emotionally damaged. They happen during the sleep normally, however sometimes they can happen while awake and when this happens it's similar to a date rape drug– you have a 2-5 hour blank spot in your memory when you "wake up" and have a feeling of general unease.

- The extension of the flat earth theory which claims the entire sky is a hologram, and sometimes that no planets except Earth exist. There are many youtube videos that document sky hologram "glitches".
- Alternatively (not flat earth related), that the sky is itself a giant living organism and that it sometimes sends shards of itself down to attack or observe people (they look like blue blankets and fly at great speeds.)

- You can fall through the ground like a video game glitch and get stuck in an infinite void on certain parts of the planet.

- Dinosaurs existed up until the early 1900's as evidenced by dinosaur tracks on the top layer of the earth that are way too well preserved to be from 60,000,000 years ago.

- Some gnostic wizards think that if they become spiritually elevated enough that they can cease ingesting food of any kind and live healthily off of sunlight, positive thoughts and positive vibrations sent from other people alone, and never have to eat a physical meal ever again.

Just some examples of non-political theories, you do not have to discuss these in particular.


This video seems to be blowing all over bitchute and youtube. It was a good one but nothing new and looks like it's made for people who have no idea about it with mass appeal in mind.


>Please do not discuss theories that are political in nature in this thread
All theories are political, because they imply that imply that the PTB are actively covering something up.



>Please do not discuss theories that are political in nature in this thread.
Well this thread is fucking useless.
What conspiracy theories aren't political in nature?


I guess more mundane stuff like john lennon isn't dead or walt disney is in cryosleep.


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I like entertaining the thought that conspiracy theories are real, specifically the ones about aliens/UFOs. The world would certainly be more interesting if they were true. Yet, no matter how hard I try, I can't bring myself to genuinely believe in them or take them seriously.


UFOs are real. Whether they are alien to this world, I don't think so.


Start reading abductee testimony. Fighter pilot testimony, read the cases with radar evidence etc. It's very real.


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Do you still believe Wizchan is safe?


Modclique is a fagclique, so no


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the wizchan gay conspiracy is actually the only one that's worth discussing about.


Link it, idht to gts


I doubt abductee testimonies are true, it's just attentionwhoring normies looking for easy recognition or money.


I've been listening to the Dead Rabbit Radio podcast, he is kind of famous on imageboards because sometimes he covers /x/'s iceberg conspiracies. He also tries to follow a "no politics" rule.


Btw I was really into the /x/'s icebergs, but the idea is dead now because too many people think of it as just creating word soups instead of holding very obscure theories that someone somewhere actually upholds as true.


What's some good icebergs to slide down?


safe from what?


how is it a conspiracy when we all know it? it should be obvious if you browse /b/ somewhat regularly.


i don't think that the economy in the USA even exists. we're billions in debt, supposedly, yet where's the ramifications from that? how come Wonder Bread is still only a dollar a loaf? shouldn't it be like $50, like what happens when countries with a real economy are in debt?

i think that the economy is just a lever in the president's office. they pull it down sometimes and everyone starts roleplaying that times are tough and everyone's poor, but nothing actually happens. literally nothing happens. gasoline prices have been sitting at $2-$3 a gallon since i was a little kid, it only changes between these by mere pennies. but people like to roleplay that that's drastically affected all the time for some reason.


Check out Epic Sellouts and his transvestigations, those are pretty funny.

Also researching the big gov / celeb who do child kidnapping conspiracies and the andrechrom harvesting is pretty fucking sacry.


I genuinely don't believe anyone exists outside of my state. The entire planet is my state and it's all just a big lie. People coming and going in the interstate freeway are actors who drive their truck around in a loop to warehouses and start the routine over again. There is no economy and politics are just a scam. In fact, nobody actually dies because I've never seen it, that's for sure. People can get their body damaged but they're taken behind the scenes to get fixed. I don't have a mother or father, they are hired actors raising me as parents. This is a big simulation/test that is created solely to make me miserable and insane and also keep me alive as long as possible. In other words, hell. None of you wizards are real, just fragments of my mind posting itself.


Work is a lie. No one has to work. It does nothing, it produces nothing. I tried this, I stopped working. Every source you see says that you'll become homeless or starve. Nope, I just expect my life to continue as it is and it does. No, I'm not leeching off of family members or government, resources just fall into my lap and I don't question it so it keeps happening. This is a fundamental truth of the universe; the mind creates reality, not the other way around.


>This is a fundamental truth of the universe; the mind creates reality, not the other way around.

Then how do you explain niggers then? I don't think you can, WizKiddo.


Caused by repressed aggression or id-impulses most likely. As I've integrated my aggression feelings I've been seeing less and less niggers. I don't think I've seen a nigger irl in a year.


So what happens if someone comes and assaults you?
Was that simply your repressed feelings manifesting themselves?


There's more to the economy than the average price of basic goods.
The price of bread is dependent on the grain industry, and since there is a great surplus of grains then bread remains cheap even if the economy is doing worse.
The ramifications of debt is that every year billions of tax payer dollars are used to cover interest payments. Money goes from you to you know who.


Sort of. It might be more accurate to frame it in the terms of destinies and timelines. Right now, if you try, you can feel your life in a temporal sense. You can sense where it's going and where it's been, you might have a 'good feeling' about your future or a 'bad feeling'. Basically, all of creation can accurately be called a part of your subconscious. Don't make the mistake of thinking that your linear thoughts have a huge impact over this, your consciousness is normally just a small slice of the Mind, unless you're vibing very high. It's like how, if you're having a good day a single thing that upsets you can suddenly shift the slice that composes your self into a bad day.
So, to answer your question. It's not that you have a secret desire to beat yourself up, but that you are blindly acting a role in reality which requires you to get assaulted. Learn to perceive the covenants and scripts of reality and you can shift into one or the other. There's a trick to this, but it doesn't translate into words very well. Basically you sense it and then feel it until you are feeling it all the time and it is more real than what was previously real.


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Reminder: most of the 3000 deaths in 9/11 were fake. These "victims" never existed. Their photos are photoshopped.


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If you were to drop a ten strip of some really rare chemicals, you'd be with the extraterrestrials within hours, or so the theory and legend goes. That's only the tip of the iceberg.. rumor has it that there exists a paranormal entity that can remove all the nerves from your body leaving only your eyes, brain, and central nervous parts - and make you watch as it pokes holes in your brain with a needle - with you completely powerless and without a body. Not to mention - in a lot of drugged pain. Lord knows what they might do, perhaps drug you with a degree of lethality or perhaps they give you a lobe transplant with life-altering results, like you take a hit of cannabis and lose it completely with a giant spider's 300iq frontal. According to the legend, there exists a unit tasked with dealing in the paranormal, leucotomizing overpowered bodies, finding ways to leucotomize them to make your life a whole lot safer and less dangerous is what they do. You could meet one of them in your day to day life - a conqueror of the paranormal. They go from dealing with hophids all the way to dealing with the creator of the universe themselves, of often dying in the process. We pay them in regenesis and monetary wealth, oftentimes it requires an immense amount of pavlovian conditioning to keep one from their very demise. And that's all I know. What they call them I'm not sure. There's another about the state of the police in the united states of america but I'll leave it to someone else.


you havent mentioned any conspiracy theories, you just like the paranormal. there has only ever been one conspiracy (worth talking about), and that is that occultists rule the world. if you realize this then things like politics dont matter anymore.

thats not a conspiracy theory, youre just a solipsist. if you think your mind is the only thing that exists, its the most fundamental fuck up you could ever make in life. if you dont think that a higher power exists, then you think you are the highest power, and therefore you decide what is right and what is wrong. every door to evil has been opened up, you can kill, steal, torture, and get away with it, because you are the one who decides if you get punished or not.

being a solipsist also blocks off every path to knowledge there is (unless you unironically think you are god, which if you do i cant really do anything). if you dont believe a higher power gave you a working brain, then who did give you a working brain? there is no way to know if you a solipsist, because you would be using a potentially faulty brain and potentially faulty reasoning to answer the question, therefore all knowledge is unknowable. all knowledge and the search for the truth hinges on one belief, that it can be found. this is why no occult school in the world will allow atheists in, they are unteachable.


> there has only ever been one conspiracy
That's not one conspirancy, that's a concept of one. Which I agree is one of the most important, but be no means is "the only one" of that type.


It’s a hobby that occasionally yields fruit in all sorts of ways you wouldn’t expect. Especially if the detractions that come from deprograming certain habitual behaviors relative to turning you into a black sheep don’t matter so much to you day to day life.


Amateur historian goes into detail of a conspiracy book that insist that Hitler was a British agent among other wild things.

I found it pretty amusing.


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Our subconscious spirit remembers our past and it tends to manifest into the things we create. Art, music, film, even videogames.

Final Fantasy XIV is a retelling of human history and each umbral calamity has coincided with a high point in each civilization in our history. The sixth umbral calamity brought down the people of Nym (Atlantis) and the 7th has or hasn't happened yet. The map attached is from the game and is clearly an imitation of Earth. The bottom left is Africa, right Asia, and the evil empire is the Europeans in the North.


Of course I realize the writers was heavily inspired from our own real life myths and legends. It's easier to have a base than to start with a blank canvas. The important part isn't that it's a ripoff, but rather our subconscious tends to try and make things from our past lives a reality. Like imbibing yourself to the point of blackout and trying to piece the events of the previous night together.


I don't think that there's actually 300 million people in the US. In fact, I don't think that there's 8 billion either. IMO, it's probably exaggerated. I really want to look into the space stuff, gonna get a telescope eventually :)


>I don't think that there's actually 300 million people in the US. In fact, I don't think that there's 8 billion either. IMO, it's probably exaggerated.
What makes you think that?
If anything the count is nearly always lower then how many people there actually are.


I too listen to Dead Rabbit. Jason is the man. Eggless Travel episode is 10/10


Watched some episodes and it was pretty bad. He literally reads a "who was phone"-tier creepypasta from reddit and calls it "covering a story". Then another episode he went /cow/ and just read and joked around the ramblings of some obviously mentally ill man.


Gangstalking is real


Truth is, I was big into conspiracy for a long time, but it pretty much lost its fun when it got too real and too explicit. By now the main ones may barely be called conspiracies anymore, so what's is left for the "community" are the most deranged and absurd ones.


Anyone else feel like Gnosticism accurately explains the world from a wizard's point of view? The normalfags in the Catholic church literally murdered the Cathars for being wizzies


What podcasts do you think are good?


not him, most of them are garbage.

>He literally reads a "who was phone"-tier creepypasta from reddit and calls it "covering a story". Then another episode he went /cow/ and just read and joked around the ramblings of some obviously mentally ill man

this is 99% of what you will hear on these shows


I think you need to look up the definitions of 'conspire' and 'paranormal'.


Here is the theory I posted about.


I was quite into DRR, but it has been losing its way recently. I guess it's just impossible to stay so long releasing five episodes a week with 2-3 stories per episode and do any research on them, he's just reading the articles most of the time, it became a "crazy facts and weird internet" podcast. There are a lot of recent things I disliked, like how he is overdoing Real Raw News, where he is just reading and being super ironic and doing exactly what he said he avoided doing for Hans. And what about the Mope episode, he just presented the movie as if it was a true story. From everything I gathered almost nothing on the movie is real, and it reinforces the idea that he's not even trying to research. Meanwhile some that had potential, like the Tarantino one, he outright dismissed, just because he is a Tarantino fan? How many times didn't he speculate over even smaller things? I'd rather hear the detailed balloon boy story he mentioned, better a good story well researched than tons of article readings.



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Jesus Christ was an extraterrestial alien.

Also, look up a picture of an ophanim.


>duuude aliens
Aliens don't exist. They are the product of science fiction and the soulless modern materialist worldview. Every example of UFOs are either government psyops, mentally ill people, or demonic experiences.


You mean contact with aliens probably never happened. Given the size of the universe and the number of galaxies, it's virtually impossible for aliens not to exist or to have existed in the past.


Aliens might exist but they never visited Earth, never seen Earth and never will know what Earth is. Every 'alien' people see are demons, government shit or hallucinations. There's a theory that many infamous alien sightings are just people remembering being in the hospital as an infant and it sounds very convincing to me, you could look into it if you want to


Why come into a thread about having fun with conspiracy theories just to try and spoil the fun like none of us have ever thought that they aren't in fact real before?


he likes demon fantasy over alien scifi


Im pretty sure that entirety of American/NATO culture is artificial in a sense that certain movies shows book were selectively funded and promoted while others were not
and thanks to globalization that was primarily led by America entire worlds culture is slowly becoming more and more artificial
a very crude example of this is Comics Code Authority and im pretty sure more devious and cleverer tricks were used in other areas of media such as movies cartoons and whatnot


He's probably met actual alien fanatics. Should keep his knee-jerk reactions in check but i can relate. Alienheads are very fucking annoying.



>>62068 >>62070
Just in case some might get the impression that this is just a "used to happen back in the old days" sort of thing:

""" Military leaders saw pandemic as unique opportunity to test propaganda techniques on Canadians, Forces report says
A plan devised by the Canadian Joint Operations Command relied on propaganda techniques similar to those employed during the Afghanistan war.

Canadian military leaders saw the pandemic as a unique opportunity to test out propaganda techniques on an unsuspecting public, a newly released Canadian Forces report concludes.


The propaganda plan was developed and put in place in April 2020 even though the Canadian Forces had already acknowledged that “information operations and targeting policies and doctrines are aimed at adversaries and have a limited application in a domestic concept.” """

The main reason is that they need to relentlessly promote war and the fantasy that "our" soldiers are heroes, instead of the mass murderers and rapists they are in reality. November 1918 really scared them, and reminded them once more that one thing that can easily bring down the system is coordinated mass refusal of military service. Their only counter to this is perpetual brainwashing.


back in my day the biggest conspiracy was that carlton banks and will smith were the same person


Back in my day the biggest conspiracy was that John the Baptist was the "charismatic recruiter" of the Essenes who recruited Joshua of Nazareth into what today the media would call an extremist religious organization with eschatological beliefs, with bases in remote, inaccessible areas, looking forward to cleansing their homeland from the occupying foreign military. Their initiation ritual was immersion in water, to symbolize both purity and the washing away of the filth of foreign occupation.


>Why come into a thread about having fun with conspiracy theories just to try and spoil the fun like none of us have ever thought that they aren't in fact real before?
Because there are actually interesting conspiracies out there, but they are diluted by random crap people pull out of their asses like cloud bursting. You belong on X.


Well MIND=BLOWN. It makes a lot of sense if you think about it, how they're always in the same room, and they're both black.


I am convinced that Mark Wahlberg and Matt Damon are the same person.
There is no way to tell them apart.


I have the same thing with Matt Damon and Leonardo DiCaprio. Hollywood has some kind of revolving door of blockheaded sandy blonde dudes that all look like the same person.


Perhaps its just one guy with different aliases.


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Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinformation
October 31 2022, 9:00 a.m.

Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.
There is also a formalized process for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or Instagram and request that it be throttled or suppressed through a special Facebook portal that requires a government or law enforcement email to use. At the time of writing, the “content request system” at facebook.com/xtakedowns/login is still live. DHS and Meta, the parent company of Facebook, did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
To accomplish these broad goals, the report said, CISA should invest in external research to evaluate the “efficacy of interventions,” specifically with research looking at how alleged disinformation can be countered and how quickly messages spread. Geoff Hale, the director of the Election Security Initiative at CISA, recommended the use of third-party information-sharing nonprofits as a “clearing house for information to avoid the appearance of government propaganda.”


5G towers can be used to image everything around them in fairly high resolution and the government is almost certainly using them for this purpose, but then again wifi routers can also do this so not much has changed except for them being able to image any space in the entire country now instead of just where there are wifi routers. I assume this has something to do with why the government didn't want Chinese companies to supply the chips for the 5g towers. Obviously they can also collect signals intelligence but that goes without saying. The reasons most conspiracy tards seem to be concerned with them though are all goofy nonsense.

Alien abductions are real, but in reality what is actually happening is people are getting roofied and then raped, usually by their fathers. Their brain processes the incident into aliens to process the trauma and because of the way the drugs fuck with your perception.

The Earth is not flat. The sky does have living organisms in it like bacteria but is itself not a living thing. Dinosaurs went extinct when we think they did. Breathitarians don't exist.

That's my thoughts on the stuff you posted about.

9/11 truthers I think have a lot of stuff that makes me think it could be legit as long as you ignore the nonsense about the towers being rigged with bombs or something. The actual towers collapsed exactly as you would expect them to if they were hit by planes. The incestuous relationship between the Bushes and the Osama's is real. The fact that it benefitted Bush incredibly is real. The fact that the Saudi Government was involved at the highest level and the Bush administration covered that up is real. Then there are proven conspiracies like MKULTRA or Iran-contra. I don't like very silly conspiracy theories that are easily proven false or which have no evidence to support them.

As for the conspiracies I am interested in, I think the guys behind the national prayer breakfast are basically the shadow cabal of global capitalist elites. They are christian fascists who believe in bringing about eschatological end-game through political control. They are broadly allied with the zionists in Israel who have the same goals. The federalist society is part of this conspiracy as are every one of the judges they pick (including merrick garland). The Russian mob under Mogilovich became powerful enough that this cabal decided to bring them into the fold. This happened basically since the fall of the soviet union with Greenspan creating the oligarchs who were then slowly allowed into the fold of global elites. The proper way to think about the fall of the soviets is that the weak and old soviet regime was usurped by a conspiracy involving an alliance between criminal elements in Russia and the security service (KGB, then FSB) who overthrew the soviets by conspiring with Greenspan. Pro capitalist businessmen could also be lumped into the mix as they became the oligarchs, but ultimately the oligarchs are lower on the pecking order than the spooks or mob bosses.

The Russian interference in the election was actually an operation coming from the American side with the Russians acting as cover to give plausible deniability to the republicans. Trump was born into a mob family. His father was a front for the mob. First Italian, then Russian after the Italians got taken over by the Russians in the 80s. Trump has also worked as a front for the Russian mob most of his life and as a result was turned into an asset by the Russians. He was agreed to as a neutral party that both sides could work with as both (the American and Russian) sides had some leverage over him. The American Christian fascists got Trump moving the capital of Israel to Jerusalem and their christian fascist supreme court justices installed and the Russians got US withdrawal from Syria and Trump was supposed to stop the funding to Ukraine, but ultimately he fucked that up and fucked up winning the election. The wall was a payoff to organized crime which controls big stakes in the steel and concrete industries. They made it slotted so that people could easily pass drugs through it and the expense of the wall can be used to deter any more effective measures being put in place like cameras on towers or vibration sensors in the ground.

I honestly think he was trying to lose both elections because he didn't want to do it. The part of him that is narcissistic and mentally ill wanted to win to supply him with narcissistic supply, but deep down he knew he would be better off losing. Melania is also an intelligence asset and part of her job is to handle Trump and she was in tears when she found out he won the first one. Now Merrick Garland is threatening Trump to actually try to win this time or else he will arrest him. He hasn't done it yet even though Trump was caught red handed stealing all sorts of classified documents because his goal is to apply leverage to get Trump to go back to being the cabal's pawn. There's a lot more I could say about this particular conspiracy but I've already written a novel so I'll stop here.

Non-political conspiracy theories don't really interest me as they don't affect real power for the most part and are often very silly with little real evidence to back them up. If this post is against the rules please delete it.


>They made it slotted so that people could easily pass drugs through it and the expense of the wall can be used to deter any more effective measures being put in place like cameras on towers or vibration sensors in the ground.
The fence is mostly non-existent, it's goal is to push migrants deep into the desert where it's easier to surveil and control from a distance. Think cops on ATVs visiting the migrant drop-cache spots and slashing all the water, and removing / destroying the food. I am ignorant to a lot of your post, but broadly agree with the 9/11 stuff. I'll keep an eye out for your posts in the future, I hope to read more Trump-Russia stories.


>Discussion alone is so offensive? Why?
Its brutally simple.
Because normalfags are natural fanatics, zealotry is in their blood.
"Conspiracy theory" is literally nuspeak for such words like "heresy".


In case it wasn't obvious, I meant to write Bin Laden's not Osamas.


Cloud storage hosts can access your files and use it to spy on you and steal information, if you store any sensitive information it will get analyzed and saved by someone. They backup your data without you knowing it and keep files that are interesting. They also use an AI to scan for anything that could be in their economical interest.

Theres a chance that actual human beings are watching people through their phone cameras which basically record from both angles at all times, they also use AI to process real time images and sound of your phone camera for analytical data. At some point we might see a huge leak of such data which could include a lot of weird recording of you as well.

Big mental institutions keep their patients on a leash for as long as possible so they can make a profit, they do anything form wrong diagnoses to gaslighting and prescribing meds they don't need while never actually giving anyone the help they need. It's all just a big machine and patients are their working material.

If you ever talked to a psychiatrist about violent thoughts or suicide you made yourself vulnerable to being used for psyop operations, no one will do any more research if they just think that you were mentally ill. The media is also additionally memeing certain people into becoming shooters and murderers through things such as movies and music.


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>The media is also additionally memeing certain people into becoming shooters and murderers through things such as movies and music.
It's not the media, they're just a vessel in this case. It's standard military recruitment propaganda targeting alienated young males with a message of glorification of violence, to round out the numbers reaped in through the poverty draft.
>'Quiet Part Out Loud': GOP Warns Biden Student Debt Cancellation Will Hurt Military Recruitment
>"The GOP is admitting that the military relies on poor young people to keep the war machine going, and that's why they oppose canceling student debt."
>September 19, 2022


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In addition to the DHS >>63136 having a streamlined process to take down stories [ https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/ ] from social media, the government is also not shy about manufacturing:

State Department concocting “fake” intellectual property “Twitter feud”
“Our public diplomacy office is still settling on a hashtag,” State Department says.
Jul 6, 2017 7:41 pm UTC

The US State Department wants to team up with other government agencies and Hollywood in a bid to create a "fake Twitter feud" about the importance of intellectual property rights. As part of this charade, the State Department's Bureau of Economic Affairs says it has been seeking the participation of the US Office of Intellectual Property Enforcement, the Motion Picture Association of America, the Recording Industry Association of America, the US Patent and Trademark Office, and "others."

To make the propaganda plot seem more legitimate, the State Department is trying to enlist Stanford Law School and "similar academic institutions" to play along on the @StateDept feed on Twitter.


I remember when Gamergate was talking about all these weird DARPA shit projects like LifeLog and everybody laughed at them.


Also, these aren't "extreme"/"abnormal" conspiracy theories anymore.


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>Also, these aren't "extreme"/"abnormal" conspiracy theories anymore.
They very much are as far as the mainstream is concerned, even though they are backed by government documents, and you still get smeared with the standard smears for them.

May 10, 2013 8:30 AM
FBI's Latest Proposal for a Wiretap-Ready Internet Should Be Trashed
The FBI has some strange ideas about how to “update” federal surveillance laws: They’re calling for legislation to penalize online services that provide users with too much security. While it’s not yet clear how dire the going-dark scenario really is, the statutory “cure” proposed by the FBI – with fines starting at $25,000 a day for companies that aren’t wiretap capable – would surely be worse than the disease.

Why? Federal law enforcement agencies like the FBI have long feared their wiretap capabilities would begin “going dark” as criminals and terrorists – along with ordinary citizens – shift from telephone networks, which are required to be wiretap-ready under the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), to the dizzying array of online communications platforms available today.
But if the FBI gets its way, companies won’t be able to adopt that “end to end” encryption model, or offer their users the security it provides. A wiretap interface is essentially an *intentional *security vulnerability, as network engineer Susan Landau points out – which means requiring companies to be wiretap-capable is also mandating them to design less secure services.


Weather engineering is real
MKUltra never ended, it somewhat works and still used amongst certain demographics
Plastics are turning kids trans
Probably only 1/10 of the famous school shootings by mentally ill young people were homegrown, at most. They all had glowie handlers and were trained, guided, or just used as a fall guy.
Aliens aren't real. The globe is real.
Autistic men are the most at risk adult demographic that no one want's to talk about protecting.
The internet is completely botted and astroturfed beyond recognition of a human. It's amazing how alien human conversations online are now.
Quantum Computing is impossible
The same organization has been running the US since at least the Clinton era, call them Illuminati for short.
They can erase your memories, but not read them. They can split your personality. They can cause you pain at a distance, and speak into your skull. They can devalue currency, they can have you murdered and let the city buy your house, they can kidnap your kids and sell them.
All smart phone cameras are always listening and sending data and information about you. They profile technologists and hobbyists and avoid the ones with the capability to check technically.
They arbitrarily kidnap and torture traveling citizens. They drone citizens.
They can engineer specific feelings and experiences into the new acid


>Autistic men are the most at risk adult demographic that no one want's to talk about protecting.

This, autistic men always get used for the things they invent such as the internet and games or to do complex tasks like coding and once normies find a way for everyone to use or do these things they essentially replace and bully autists out of their own turf with things like feminism etc. this happened with the internet, gaming and currently they are trying to do the same with coding but they keep failing on that one because they are hardly able to replace the skills but still they write articles about how "succubi are left out of coding" and how "misogynistic" it is when its actually something that anyone could learn at home. Autists always get the smoke despite not hurting anyone while normies get praised even if they are shitty people.

No one cares about autists because they are low social status even if they have money but everyone depends on the things they come up with.


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> It's because the project of mass state surveillance depends on mass commercial surveillance. Remember the Snowden revelations? Remember how they started with #Prism, a program whereby Big Tech had secretly colluded with the NSA to conduct illegal, mass surveillance?
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
> The companies denied it at first, but they changed their tunes – and squealed like stuck pigs – when another NSA program called "Upstream" was revealed. "Upstream" was the NSA's practice of wiretapping the fiber lines between Big Tech's data-centers.
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-nsa-intercepted-data-those-not-targeted-far-outnumber-the-foreigners-who-are/2014/07/05/8139adf8-045a-11e4-8572-4b1b969b6322_story.html
> Prism turned out to be a way to trick the tech giants into thinking that they were in control of the NSA's harvesting of their users' data. But what was really going on was that the NSA was capturing everything, picking out the stuff they wanted, and requesting it via Prism (this is called "parallel construction" and it's used when an agency does not want to reveal its methods to its partners or adversaries).

* DHS >>63136 having a streamlined process to take down stories [ https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/ ] from social media
* the government >>63175 is also not shy [ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/state-department-concocting-fake-intellectual-property-twitter-feud/ ] about manufacturing


video has been removed. What was it?


>They can engineer specific feelings and experiences into the new acid
Do they need to? I think they can do it in a 15 seconds tiktok video, they don't need to go far.

This is my problem right now. All these structures and elaborations are not needed. I got kinda of lost after everything actually happened, and it was all much less spectacular than all hypothesis and speculations. People were expecting stuff like "government projecting images of Jesus with aliens in the sky to install a big world tyranny", and how did it turn out? "Guys, give up your rights or you get the flu". Also, don't mind all the medium and small business that went bankrupt, international corporations will take over the space that was left. And take these suspicious substances into your blood, it's mandatory. Now get ready for the reset. Back in Will and Grace times they could change people's opinions with a series, now they can do it with a social media post. All that is left in the conspiracy community is masturbation.

I think it was this:


They don't need to, but a lot of the crazy making tactics work in unison and are more effective together than separately. plus, most neo-acid with programmed experiences comes from us or eu i think, where tiktok is cn


Tiktok was just an example, it can be a facebook post, a youtube short, a phrase on a t-shirt or a meme posted on 4chan.


You're being silly! What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.

But you're absolutely right. When people read about MK Ultra, the drug trials get and got everyone's attention. The more interesting experiments of MK Ultra were more mundane: social and psychological manipulation. MK Ultra was never about acid and truth serums with chemicals, it was about gaslighting and brainwashing with words. They realized that content moderation was far more potent than any drug or censorship. Whose messages that resonated with the regime were encouraged. Case in point: nobody ever hears or cares about the mundane psychological experiments of MK Ultra, they're all """distracted""" by the acid experiments.

Once these finer details of control were tweaked, this was expanded upon and extended generously with other Deep State projects, like when DARPA funded Lifelog, which become Facebook. Now through the major tech companies they use these methods on a subtle, continuous basis on the entire populace. A fact which has been corroborated by the Intercept now. Only now, their control is so deep, so vast, that the Intercept needs not even be censored explicitly. They simply get slid so that nobody even sees them. The future is not a boot, stomping on humanity, for all eternity. The future is funny cat pictures that make everyone question what a boot even is.


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>Only now, their control is so deep, so vast, that the Intercept needs not even be censored explicitly. They simply get slid so that nobody even sees them. >>63202
To add to what this Anonymage said, the Intercept itself is far from free of suppression of information that is a little too inconvenient, on both sides. For example, they censored their own founder on the Hunter Biden story to the point where he resigned. Like the Guardian, the Intercept is allowed a considerable measure of the illusion of freedom, but they are nonetheless controlled opposition rather than real opposition, because at the end of the day they still need a license from the government to operate.
>My Resignation From The Intercept
>The same trends of repression, censorship and ideological homogeneity plaguing the national press generally have engulfed the media outlet I co-founded, culminating in censorship of my own articles.
>The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.
* DHS >>63136 having a streamlined process to take down stories [ https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/ ] from social media
* the government >>63175 is also not shy [ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/state-department-concocting-fake-intellectual-property-twitter-feud/ ] about manufacturing


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>The US government acting as enforcement muscle for corporate interests? Never! You're just a crazy conspiracy theorist!


Z-Library Aftermath Reveals The Feds Seized Dozens of Domain Names
Digital database Z-Library’s domains seized by the FBI
Z-Library has a strong presence in emerging economies and academic circles, where readers are often unable to afford the books or paywalled papers they require
‘U.S. Authorities Seize Z-Library Domain Names’


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To see how much unnamed actors are bothered by the Intercept's DHS streamlined social media takedown exposure >>63136 https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/ take the case of 28chan.org. The story is a technology news story so it was posted on the technology board. The board's standard for relevance, from its catalog: (a) "this is a cute succubus" 29/05/22 (b) "Fuck fuck" 28/05/22. The DHS story was put up on 11/09/22 (Wed) >>63136 and deleted and permabanned with reason "bot" on the 16th. To judge for yourself whether they believe their own reason, the librivox JSless browsing script https://28chan.org/board/g/res/111.html#593 is posted from the same IP, and this is available in the IP history to the mod. Naturally, the standard smears against that IP will follow like clockwork – you can't expect anything else.

So the sliding behavior mentioned by this Anon >>63202 is sometimes ramped up to overt suppression, even if it outs the site. Basically if you want to check how fed or how free a site is, you can post the DHS exposure in a relevant section in a disciplined tone and check the reaction: no suppression / slide and distract / overt suppression.

The conspiracy theory that this post is relevant to, just to be extra clear, is that fringe, slower-than-wizchan sites are no longer allowed to pass under the fed radar. Inconvenient information is removed even from fringe sites when they happen to be fed sites, even when this outs the site in the process.


Yeah it's a multitude. Gangstalking, drugs, electronic imagery


FUCK. where else can i download pdfs for free?


>Using the DHS story as a canary-in-the-coal-mine to determine whether a forum is fed controlled.
…this piques my interest anon.

I also use forum sliding as one example. They have a whole host of techniques. Speaking of which…IS SOMEONE GOING TO POST THE GENTLEFORUM GUIDE TO SPOOKS ALREADY OR WHAT?!



The TOR site is still working:


If you don't want to bother with TOR, just use the Libgen site. That was the source for most of Zlibrary material anyway.



If you're not going to put a single example of other experiments why talk about them? Is like you just said nothing.


ntayrt but some other mk ultra experiments were basically crude gitmo experiments: sleep deprivation, trauma induced side effects and personality control, obviously drugs stuff, they attempted to do remote viewing and telekinesis, they did truman show type shit to junkies and hippies in SF, notably they gave uncle ted a bunch of acid, trapped him a room and had CIA operatives yell mean stuff at him


i remember having to use an irc client to download books in the past. i dont remember the name but it was fun


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>Google doesn't track you anyway after you explicitly opt out of tracking! You're just paranoid!

>Google will pay $392m to 40 states in largest ever US privacy settlement
>Case is a historic win for consumers after an investigation found the tech company tracked users’ location even after they opted out
>Mon 14 Nov 2022 20.49 GMT

Of course since the state is a Good Boy™ they made them pay peanuts: less than $10 million per state. Meanwhile:
>Location tracking can help tech companies sell digital ads to marketers looking to connect with consumers within their vicinity. It is another tool in a data-gathering toolkit that generates more than $200bn in annual ad revenue for Google, accounting for most of the profits pouring into the coffers of its corporate parent, Alphabet, which has a market value of $1.2tn.

Of course since the Guardian is a Good Boy™ they cannot be allowed to say a single word about less than $10 million per state being peanuts.
* DHS >>63136 having a streamlined process to take down stories [ https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/ ] from social media
* the government >>63175 is also not shy [ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/state-department-concocting-fake-intellectual-property-twitter-feud/ ] about manufacturing


Global Voice-to-skull (V2K) technology is deployed today.


Always has been.


Has there been literally anything done at all to make google stop tracking without consent or is this "historic win" literally just states getting paid free bux to stop talking about this?


Why would any state force them to stop rather than just force them to share what they’re spying? There’s too much power here for anyone to just throw it away.


I'm confident most of the Antifa doxes that happened in the past half decade were actually just leaks from the FBI/NSA.


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>Has there been literally anything done at all to make google stop tracking without consent or is this "historic win" literally just states getting paid free bux to stop talking about this?
Not in the US. And it's not even "states getting paid free bux", less than $10 million per state is peanuts for Google. But there is some movement from the EU via GDPR trying an alternate approach:

>Google Analytics declared illegal in the EU.
>Now that Google Analytics is illegal, will Alphabet protect data of Europeans better to comply with the GDPR?
>In two landmark court rulings, Austria's data protection authority as well as France's privacy watchdog has found that Google Analytics is illegal to use on European websites.


Not true, it was developed in the 1920-1940s and first deployed domestically in the 40s.


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>Apple doesn't track you anyway after you explicitly opt out of tracking! You're just paranoid! >>63243

> Apple Is Tracking You Even When Its Own Privacy Settings Say It’s Not, New Research Says
> An independent test suggests Apple collects data about you and your phone when its own settings promise to “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.”
> November 8, 2022

> For all of Apple’s talk about how private your iPhone is, the company vacuums up a lot of data about you. iPhones do have a privacy setting that is supposed to turn off that tracking. According to a new report by independent researchers, though, Apple collects extremely detailed information on you with its own apps even when you turn off tracking, an apparent direct contradiction of Apple’s own description of how the privacy protection works.

> The iPhone Analytics setting makes an explicit promise. Turn it off, and Apple says that it will “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.” However, Tommy Mysk and Talal Haj Bakry, two app developers and security researchers at the software company Mysk, took a look at the data collected by a number of Apple iPhone apps—the App Store, Apple Music, Apple TV, Books, and Stocks. They found the analytics control and other privacy settings had no obvious effect on Apple’s data collection—the tracking remained the same whether iPhone Analytics was switched on or off.

* DHS >>63136 having a streamlined process to take down stories [ https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/ ] from social media
* the government >>63175 is also not shy [ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/state-department-concocting-fake-intellectual-property-twitter-feud/ ] about manufacturing


If I were a spy, and forced to reveal information, one can sabotage.


final nail in the coffin for privacyfags. There's still pinephone thank god



>closed firmware phone


it's pozzed as well? seriously?


There's no conceivable way to make a privacy-respecting cell phone. It's just the nature of the beast.


this isn't evidence that pinephone is compromised


Yeah,I may have inadvertently sprent FUD. I tried to find a source to post and it appears the Linux Sunxi project is concerned with deblobbing the firmwares. Not 100% on that


yeah sad. you could make a dial phone easy enough. the issue even with that however is all signals are tapped and recorded

that is as simple as possible for a phone and even that is impossible in the end


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> Fracking is safe! Why won't you believe us? It will definitely not poison your groundwater! You're just a luddite opposing progress!

'Finally, Some Justice': Fracking Company to Pay Millions for Poisoning Town's Water
"This case proves once and for all that drilling and fracking contaminated our drinking water," said one Dimock, Pennsylvania resident.
November 30, 2022

Environmental justice advocates celebrated Tuesday when a fracking company accepted responsibility for poisoning drinking water supplies in Dimock, Pennsylvania. "Dimock residents have known for 14 years that Cabot Oil & Gas is guilty of contaminating our water."

Nearly 14 years after a well explosion on New Year's Day 2009 revealed to Dimock residents that methane had percolated into their groundwater, Cabot Oil & Gas pleaded no contest to 15 criminal charges, including nine felonies. The notorious driller, now owned by Coterra Energy, was featured in the 2010 HBO documentary Gasland.

In addition to taking full responsibility for destroying the small rural town's drinking water supplies for the first time—following more than a decade of denial and alleged harassment of residents—the Houston-based company agreed to pay $16.3 million to build new public water infrastructure and to cover the costs of delivering clean water to those who have been harmed for the next 75 years.

‘Gasland’ driller will pay millions for new water system in Dimock
Cabot Oil and Gas admits responsibility for contaminating drinking water wells
November 29, 2022

It began with an explosion on New Year’s Day 2009. Soon, residents of the tiny rural community of Dimock discovered dangerous levels of methane gas had seeped into their private water wells.

Almost 14 years later, after setting off a series of events that would make the village synonymous with anti-fracking campaigns worldwide, Cabot Oil and Gas pleaded no contest to 15 criminal charges, including nine felonies. It marks the first time Cabot took responsibility for destroying drinking water supplies.

The company agreed to pay $16.29 million to Pennsylvania American Water to build a public water system that will provide clean water to the impacted people, along with a pledge the company will cover water bills for 75 years. In the meantime, the funds will pay for individual filtration systems and bottled water.


Udo Ulfkotte, who blew the whistle that the CIA was forcing european journalists who print their content. This guy wrote a book on it, and died the exactly same year. The book was stopped from being printed and now is practically unheard of in the english speaking world. Interesting stuff


A lot of conspiracy literature is dreck put out by the conspirators themselves. If you want to read the really good shit, find one of the crazy Marxist types. They love a good conspiracy theory once you figure out their wonky thinking and manage not to go crazy.

CIA used the term "conspiracy theory" to refer to any criticism of eugenics, including things that were common knowledge. It's a "conspiracy" to acknowledge things that are right in front of you, that are publicly accessible, like the names of old money families in the oligarchy.


post the link


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some suspicious or weird stuff here


>2nd image
This must be the most retarded connection I've ever seen


>None of you wizards are real, just fragments of my mind posting itself.

I can confirm to you that I am real, wizzie.


AGW's a fuccccckkin hoax…. I have the science


If gravity is real, why can't it be weighed?


It is measured every time you step on a scale.


so how much does it weigh?


gosh right right


A guy in argentina just invented a car fueled by junk. He even posted a manual.


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