No.61323
Craigslist has a free section with dirt, pallets, couches, and broken electronics. You'd still need gas, multi-meter, and soldering iron for diagnosing and replacing bad components, but you could possibly recover that cost with fixed electronics.
If you don't want to drive anywhere, go on walks through alleyways. I've seen lawnmowers and broken TV sets that people put out for bulk trash pickup.
No.61476
>>61475Don't do it, wiz. Seriously, I don't think it has any positive effects. I used to fast on fridays for months and the only results I got were weight loss/keeping my weight in check and feeling extremely tired and cold around afternoon and evening. I couldn't do anything, couldn't read, play, watch anything because I could barely focus. That's why I stopped doing it, because I couldn't do anything fun on days I starved myself. I guess it is okay if you want to fast if you want to lose weight or if you want to torture yourself, otherwise stop it, please. Even cutting yourself is better than this, if you want to hurt yourself so much or cause yourself physical pain in some way. Monks practiced fasting because they were strictly "no fun allowed" type of people who had nothing better to entertain themselves with.
I advise you to find other things you can satisfy your sense of control with. Oh yeah, and if you are forced to use your strength in any way you are fucked if you fast regularly. This is another reason to stop this madness. If you got into a fight and had to defend yourself (you never know) being at least at average weight is a must. Don't weaken yourself wiz.
No.61477
>>61476I can definitely relate to feeling cold and tired when not eating in the evening, esp. in winter when it gets very painful, but I'm a light weight so it might have something to do with that, I'm not sure.
Fasting is a big health fad these days. I think it's massively exagerated as some sort of one size fits all cure to… every ailment there is, basically, from cancer to erectile dysfunction lol.
>I advise you to find other things you can satisfy your sense of control with.Meh. Doing it for that reason is better than deluding oneself into believing it is making one healthier and spiritually enlightened or whatever the self-help crowd claims it does… Embrace the neurosis, reject the kooky bullshit and be honest with yourself.
No.61479
>>61475Read an article the other day saying fasting is actually really good for you once in a while. Going a week is stupid but like 1 or 2 days a week is supposed to (I don't remember source) increase dramatically your chances of long life. I too fast sometimes when I don't have groceries or am too lazy lazy cook. So I just smoke weed and write music of clean
No.61486
>>61476Last time I only had hunger pangs around 20-30 hours after starting and then I didn't feel hungry at all after. I only stopped because I wasn't sure if it was harmful or not. I didn't have any tiredness or cold feeling due to not eating.
>>61479Do you have an idea about what actually makes it stupid? I couldn't find any information on how much fat it burns vs. how much muscle or other important tissue it also destroys. That and potentially slowing metabolism are all I can think of that might make it stupid and was wondering if you heard anything else or if you can confirm these are why you say that.
No.61487
>>61475Oh yeah, ‘not eating’ sounds like a blast. Great hobby.
No.61495
>>61487it is consumption free
No.61514
>>61475Main benefit for me is that fasting allows my digestive system to rest and improves my skin health. I very often do intermitent fasting where I don't eat past afternoon because it helps me wake up in the morning due to hunger. Supposedly fasting also decreases your mTOR levels increasing your lifespan. I think fasting is fine as long as you maintain a healthy bodyweight. Once when I lost motivation to eat and lost a lot of weight I became emotionally numb and very weak and unmotivated. If you're in a bad place mentally make sure to plan your meals because not bothering with eating can be pretty tempting.
No.61548
>>61486https://www.heart.org/en/news/2019/11/25/regular-fasting-could-lead-to-longer-healthier-lifeLots of things on Google man. The human body is super resilient so fasting in smaller chunks is fine.
No.61644
>>57823you can't do shit then
books cost money
electricity costs money(so watching television is not free)
game consoles cost money unless you already have them(the electricity to play them costs money)
No.61645
exercise is not consumption-free
you burn calories and because of that you have to eat more. it leads to food consumption and water consumption.
No.61652
>>53574I guess you could try bushcrafting, not the type normies do where they buy a truck load of tools, but more like the type where you go into the woods and build your own stuff (tools, shelter etc) with what nature gives you. Exercise without equipment (calisthenics) and maybe meditation might work as well.
No.61975
dumpster diving
camping(if you already own the equipment)
No.61992
>>61975>dumpster divingHow do you get a big haul home without a car? Cars cost alot. Or were you actually planning on pulling a wagon behind you on foot the entire trip?
No.61999
>>61992I carried 64 pounds of equipment, food, and video games over a 70+20 litre ruck and 12 liter satchel, through snow and ice and that black slush that forms around the warm stormdrains. It's no big ordeal hiking with weight and even soldiers who are assigned to carry SAW ammo in full plating can adapt to it after a short amount of training. hueg bags come cheap because new production only has milsurp to compete with. You'll never regret your purchase of a bag that can safely store enough food, water, and anime to survive a 7-day bugout to the underside of an overpass.
>>61998These look good on paper but anything made to be collapsible and packable will eventually fail at the points of articulation. Adding any significant weight to a bicycle can really wear it down too. If something happens to the bike, anon will have to carry it PLUS his haul. Better to go slow and steady and just make the walk. Better yet, get a tow-behind tot roller, the little strollers with 2 wheels and a canopy. The hobos downtown here use them to store their entire lifehood and they're designed to be incredibly safe and up to the task of pulling weight. Minimal wear on the bike and it's easy to abandon then come back to because who's going to f**k with a baby stroller.
No.62004
>>62000i am afraid the tires will go flat and then i'll have to buy new tubes
it's okay if you have an income but not much if you are a neet
No.62005
>>61992i large backpack or a wagon
No.62006
>consumption-free
>buy and maintain an expensive bicycle and accessories
bicycles have become a upper middle class thing
No.62009
>>62004even if you somehow fuck them up you can patch them. tubes are rubber and to patch it you just need another piece of rubber and some sealant. there are antipuncture liners that go between the tube and the wheel. you can buy puncture resistant tubes as well, or just buy the sealing compound and squirt it into a tube. special tubes also exist that are much thicker on the bottom to faciliate being stronger. being neet is no excuse to not get good equipment. you can make money selling garbage you find on ebay. you are basically investing in yourself by getting a nice bike. the only other alternative is a big ass wagon or shopping cart but have fun pushing/pulling that around. or a car, but that is expensive and takes gas. to start you probably will just use any backpack and then use the money to get better stuff
No.62036
>>62006>bicycles have become a upper middle class thingAgain. Or did you forget it was created for the upper middle class?
No.62037
>>62036fair but my point was that it was more of a prole thing for a while in the mid 20th century
now it's more of a fashionable trend for virtue signalling green urbanites and lycra clad tryhards with rides that are twice as expensive as a used car
No.62077
Lucid dreaming and astral projection. Unless you count dream sex or astral sex as consumption.
Bodyweight strength training
Yoga
Meditation
Breathwork
Screaming at animals in nature
Journaling with a huge 600 page notebook, that you'll only have to replace once every 6-12 months
No.62078
ban astral chads from having dream sex
No.62150
I'll be in the middle of nowhere in summer. I won't have any access to the internet and I won't bring my laptop there. What would you suggest? There is a sea nearby and I'll swim, but I cannot do it all day or all summer. I'm waiting for your recommendations. Thanks in advance.
No.62155
>>61475i have been experimenting with intermittent fasting for brain benefits, and to rid of my pot belly
No.62156
>>62155I can already tell you will be posting about this for months, not succeeding and eventually falling for another useless meme.
No.62164
>>62150>I'll be in the middle of nowhere in summer. I won't have any access to the internet and I won't bring my laptop there. What would you suggest? There is a sea nearby and I'll swim, but I cannot do it all day or all summer. I'm waiting for your recommendations. Thanks in advance.you could take a field guide with you to identify plants and animals, a star chart, planisphere, or astrolabe and learn the stars, and by the sea you could do fishing, shrimping, cockling, or whatever is there. if you're identifying plants anyway you could try making cordage from nettles and baskets from coppice, that kinda stuff, and see if you can find anything tasty
No.62165
>>62164Thank you. I go survey the area as you say, but I'm looking for some hobbies that I could do indoors mostly because it's too hot outside like 43C degrees.
No.62167
>>62165that's very hot especially as it's by the sea, but you could harmonize your time indoors and outdoors whether it's coming up with knots or weaves, practicing things like furoshiki, suburi, zazen, or analyzing cuttings you've brought back with you
there's also nothing wrong with just relaxing on hot days
No.62168
>>62167Thanks for your suggestion.
>practicing things like furoshiki, suburi, zazen, or analyzing cuttings you've brought back with youThey all look so useful and meaningful. By the way, I talked to myself about what I like and what I want to do, and I realised I wanted strength and skills related to that. I'll learn how to do boxing and get a trainer if necessary, will do hiking, camping and bouldering etc. As you see in UFC fights, they use all the means in the hexagon. So, practicing some moves and doing shadowboxing at home is the best in my opinion. Even though you're doing the wrong stuff, you'll improve your body and overall athleticism.
r8 No.62171
>>62077> Screaming at animals in naturePlease tell us more about this one.
No.62251
>>53574I scavenge animal bones, pelts, skulls and anything cool from the beach to make sculptures.
No.62578
Sunbathing.
No.62591
chess. you can obviously consume all the learning material you want but you can also just get good by basically playing a ton of games on the internet or against a computer if you try to learn from them
No.62785
>>62155wheres my intermittint fasting bro
No.63273
>>62785I posted the article here
>>61548I think fasting is a healthy activity once in a while, I mean humans are just animals and we evolved to be able to withstand not being able to have food during winters and bad harvests. We are cavemen and if a caveman can do something so can we
No.63281
>>63273im fasting right now
No.63307
>>63281Im not. But when I was super poor and had no food it was a good pastime
No.63314
Some also provide gaming in dozens of other currencies as effectively.
No.63354
I was thinking about bringing back some sort of artisanal hobby. When I was a young teenager I used to build things with my hands, crappy mechanisms, had a fixation on bows which culminated in surprisingly (for something made by a 14 year old) powerful crossbow (it could've probably pierced a skull)
Maybe I could make plushies and sell them. It would be fun sharing something I make and I haven't built/made anything for so long. A hobby like that could bring in money.
>>53611For math that's a little low, but a good idea. Having that knowledge without an outlet for applying it is it's own problem, so I don't recommend this.
No.63355
>>63354I think just doing the problems is enough, are you saying that you struggle with motivation without a means to apply the knowledge? If so, just take it less serious, learning math is fun silly little games for silly little boys
No.63356
>>63355That's a very odd suggestion and wording. Anyways if you don't take math seriously you're not gonna learn it because it's hard. It's kind of like bulking up to become really fit, but then you need to have some kind of weight lifting, mountain climbing, or sport outlet for it, otherwise what's the point?