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 No.54194

After Reading Fingerprints of the Gods and Magicians of the Gods, I wonder if it’s possible the existence of an ancient and lost civilization like those books described. I know a couple of books who give more evidence of that. 2 books written by the Spanish investigator Javier Sierra, called: En busca de la edad de oro and La Ruta Prohibida, if you want to read them. But, the only book I know who gives a serious proof of that is Hamlet’s Mill. That makes me think if the civilization is cyclical and the event that erase a possible civilization could happen again to us. Just think about it.

 No.54223

Why almost every American country (I’m including Latin America too) have their own folk ghost, except for the U.S? In Mexico they have el Charro Negro, The brujas, The Nahuales, los Chaneques, Duendes, but those one’s appear in every Latin country. Colombia has la Patasola, el Sombreron, la Madre del agua, and a couple of ones I don’t remember right now. Chile has a lot fucked up ones, like El Trauco, a kind of imp whose hobby is raping beautiful succubi. He’s married with his sister, and has a dick so long he has to carry it like a hose. I’m not making this up. Here in Venezuela we have, el Hachador, the spirit of a man killed by god for not resting in Easter, he wanted to make his own coffin. La Sayona, a kind of banshee who kills she’s own mother because she thought she was having an affair with his husband. Search in every country and you will found legends like this. But I couldn’t ever find a ghost like that in the United States. It’s because they don’t have the “magic thinking” (people here live with this as a part of reality. Nobody denies their existence) or because they don’t have culture like the people in Europe says? The closest things to that are the legends of the Indians from the U.S and the lumberjack’s mythology

 No.54253

how do you get rid of a poltergeist? there's been one in my house since 1990 and last week it was spinning the clock hands, childish shit like that

there's no wizards or exorcists in the phone book and they'd probably be fakes anyway, and I'm not doing that cringy thing people suggest where you do basically an intervention and explain to the ghost he's dead, because I think he knows and doesn't care

do I gotta achive astral projection and go kick his ass? serious question

 No.54265

graham hancock is a fraud, check out a book called the stargate conspiracy, dubious authors as well but that one book is actually well worth the read.

 No.54279

>>54253
What makes you think you are dealing with a poltergeist?

What is the history of the place?

Do you have regular paranormal experiences outside of that location that are similar or is it just that location?

 No.54282

>>54279
my mom bought a large fragglerock doll at a garage sale in 1990, the old hag selling it said it's haunted, later that year I was watching TV alone in the dark and it walked into the room and sat down cross-legged in front of the TV, it sat there upright for a couple hours

that was the first time, it was dormant until late 2018 when my mom and sister, separately, said they heard monster screeching noises while alone in the same room, they freaked out

last december I was standing outside the room alone and it hit the (closed) door with the strength of a kick, then it was knocking on the garage door and knocking stuff over in the room trying to spook me, making the air downstairs super cold, the cat's tail was puffed out he could obviously see it floating around like animals can, the he/she turned the bathroom fan on when I walked by

there was nothing the past few months then I was downstairs and asked the ghost aloud if it's still here, the clock thing happened immediately after

it's not my house, it's a stowaway from someone else's house and I'm tired of it

 No.54290

I woke up and my second story bedroom window was wide open. There's a 2-foot wire with a heavy weight suspended from my window that keeps the wind from opening it (the weather was calm anyway), and at bedtime I was remarking aloud about how the poltergeist never messes with my room and what if he might open my window. Now my room is full of mosquitoes. Wtf. I'm pissed. Bedroom haunting is a red line. I'm looking into astral projection methods now.

 No.54291

>>54282
Assuming everything you said is true and your interpretation of events are correct and accurate (aka not be a overly skeptical dick about it and just get to the point) from what it sounds like you aren't actually dealing with a poltergeist. Maybe a mild haunting or cursed object but thankfully not a poltergeist at all.

A simple clensing ritual of the house and getting rid of the doll or a full purification ritual on the doll should set things in order.
So something as simple as saging the house while offering relevant prayers, or using blessed salt or water on the outer facing walls in every room, or even inviting a spiritial person you feel comfortable with to do a cleansing should sort things out. Though learning to do it yourself is child's play.

For the haunted doll, if it is the source it is a bit harder since you don't know it's history. The easiest thing to do is just to get rid of it by giving or selling it to someone else. There are stronger purification rituals that could be done but they are slightly harder to learn and do have a risk of failure and making things worse, so if you are new to this kind of thing I would have someone else do it, or like I said, get rid of it.

Trashing it, or destroying it sometimes works but depending on the haunt/curse it could just make things FAR worse so I don't suggest that without purifying it first.

So order of opperations to be done with the bad vibes of the house.

>get rid of (by selling or giving) the doll

>or get the doll purified/exercised
>then do simple spiritual cleansing of the house

If you cleanse the house but ether keep the cause of the haunt or make it worse by improperly disposing of the cause then it is only a matter of time before it starts up yet again.
You have to get rid of the cause (in this case the curse/haunt on the doll) first then once that is done do a cleansing of the house.

You do that, or have that done by someone you trust in spiritual matters and you should be all good.

 No.54293

man, the doll went to the dump like 25 years ago
>you aren't actually dealing with a poltergeist. Maybe a mild haunting
well…what's the difference? it's definitely a poltergeist by any definition, that's the only class of ghost which makes dolls walk, you should've seen it

it was straight from that 1982 movie

I don't think that house cleansing stuff will work, because I think he/she is perfectly aware of the situation, obviously speaks english, and recent evidence suggests he's been spying on me a long time, hears me rant a lot about occult stuff and general skepticism and probably learned a lot from me over the years that he's not going to fall for banishing rituals etc, no, I think direct action is required, especially before it gets worse and my parents find out

 No.54296

>>54293
>man, the doll went to the dump like 25 years ago
oh no.
Yeah, you are going to need more then a simple cleansing now.

>he's not going to fall for banishing rituals

Actual occult banishing rituals don't give the spirit a choice in the matter. They actively force whatever has gathered away. There is not "falling for" a banishing ritual as it is actively throwing them out by force. In general ritual magic is very much about subjugating spirits through the force of will rather then politely asking nicely to work with them or trickery. Though understandably if things go wrong the effects can be pretty damn bad since the thing you don't have control of is probably really pissed off for being subjugated.
But whatever

>well…what's the difference?

One is deeply rooted to a set location due to something that happened in that location and festers in that area getting stronger and more violent as time goes on (poltergeist).
The other is a more general term, but in this case if I was to put a label on it would be more of a wondering spirit that using some sort of attachment (object at first, only now instead it is your house because the original object it was bound to is gone). Also unlike a poltergeist who is self sustaining and grows more powerful regardless of who or what is around, yours seems to feed on those around it much like a egregore being formed (if you understand the reference). Which also unfortunately means you have been inadvertently feeding it, which is also bad and also why it is now bound to your house.
Lastly poltergeist are concentrations of pure white hot negative emotion. Vortexes of hate and pain that lash out until they are banished. Almost elemental in its nature without any human reason or behavor left. Whatever personality or person/people that was left has been stripped away and all that is left behind is that intense negative emotion, devoid of reason or motive. A festering mass of anger and sorrow.
While what you are dealing with just sounds like a cheeky cunt that very much still has individualization.

As for how to sort your situation out, I actually have to read up a bit since this isn't my specialty and it has been awhile.
I will get back to you eventually with a answer.

 No.54297

ive never experienced anything paranormal. ive never even daydreamed or imagined seeing or hearing anything, aka hallucinated. it's disappointing but dementia runs in the family. maybe when im an old old man ill experience the magic

 No.54302

>>54296
so like…do you have personal experience with ghosts?

 No.54303

>>54302
It's complicated.
Sorta, depends on what you define as ghost.

 No.54313

>>54303
how about a dead person who didn't "go into the light" or whatever and hangs around here

 No.54317

>>54313
No, you watch to many movies.

On a related note, research is almost complete. Just was detracted by life stuff.

 No.54319

>>54317
I don't watch movies.

 No.54366

Does anybody here have stories about buried treasures? My family always tells me one of the worse things that could happen to you is found a treasure. The greed of the soul of the owner makes him stay along with the money. Sometimes, but I only heard of this happen if the owner had family, the ghost gives permission to his relatives to keep the money, but if you are not his relative, the ghost will torment you until your death. Centuries ago, during the colonial times and the revolutions across America, the rich men who own slaves, used to make them dig a hole in the ground to hide their money. At the moment they down the chest; the owner kills the poor fuckers for make them the ghostly guardians of the burial. This happen a lot here in Latin America, but I suppose in the U.S states that used to be part of Mexico, and especially in the south of that country, things like that should happened a lot too. My brother tells me there’s a way of making a deal with the ghost. His soul is trapped keeping the chest, but, if somebody takes his place he would be free for resting and leave the money for the one who make the deal with him. This is only possible if you offer him people. Some people say you have to take an x amount of people to the place of the burial, kill them and drop them to the hole, after that, the treasure will raise of the ground and it will be yours.

 No.54853

My uncle tells me about the owner of a ranch he knows, who discovered a burial in his land. He was digging in the soil trying to found water, when he found a chest with at least three centuries, full of gold and jewels. Everything was fine a couple of days, until some afternoon when he was with the cattle. The shadow of a man came (my uncle says it was like watching a corporeal shadow, he almost seems physical) to him to tell him about the debt he has to pay. The ghost wanted the life of one of his sons. The farm owner didn’t want to kill anybody, least one of his sons, so he offered some cattle, but no, the spirit just wanted a human life. Almost all of the sons of the famer were mentally ill, the worst of them used to dance and sing when he watched hanged people while he was playing guitar. That was the one the farm owner offered. The ghost fells insulted by that offering, so he takes the life of the only mentally sane son.

 No.54855

>>54297
you are a hylic

 No.54858

Thanks wiz, i enjoyed that GH interview.
What will be the gain of learning of all this hidden secrets?

 No.54864

>>54853
that makes no sense, if the ghost had the ability to kill people by himself then why did he bother to ask nicely I’m the first place

 No.54865

>>54864
read the Stargate Conspiracy by Picknett and Prince. I'm honestly sorry for people believing anything this master manipulator says.

 No.54869

>>54865
Latin americans are very susceptible to these kooky pseudo-spiritual and scientific theories. I am not saying they are the only ones but on the internet especially you often see that there is an unhealthy amount of interest from them for these topics. I wonder why that is?
Oh and I second the book recommendation.

 No.54871

>>54865
Can you summarise the main points?
I can't read a whole book anymore

 No.54872

>>54869
I think it's your selective memory. I bet the number of american flat-earthers alone far surpasses the number of latin americans who believe in shit like the Stargate conspiracy. Then you have all the other Reptilian believers, hollow-eathers, Area 51 and so on. Now that I think about, the US is the undisputed hotspot for people who believe in shit like that. I mean I have no horse in this race but if I had toplace bets, it would not be on Latin America.

 No.54877

>>54872
Reptilians are real and Stargates are real, please don't include them in your smear campaign

 No.54880

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 No.54888

>>54880
That's not a response

 No.54897

>>54888
Not only is it a response but it is exactly the kind of response a comment like that deserves.

 No.54972

has anyone else seen the large orange UFOs? I started seeing them on 12/31/2016 and some sites I checked afterward said that sightings exploded in that year

the ones I saw were even flying in corkscrew patterns over our airport all night long, I checked the local news all week and there was nothing…go figure

I wonder if the sudden surge of the orange ones is a sign

 No.55035

>>54265
Why is Graham Hancock a fraud? I prefer him over Erich Von Däniken, or worse, the guy from Ancient Aliens. At least he´s not saying aliens created everything.

 No.56077

>>54194
I leave myself open to the possibility of an advanced civilization in the distant past.
Advanced in the sense of bronze or early iron age not flying cars or anything.
Modern Humans have been on this planet for something like 100,000 years, look at how far we've come in the last 6000. Whose to say we didn't have something more going on 12000 years ago?

 No.56078

>>54972
could you draw what they looked like?

 No.56099

>>56078
no
youtube has a million home HD videos showing what they look like
in my city there's currently one that's been in the sky every night since august pretending like it's a star, if you watch a while you see it darting here and there though sometimes or turning its lights on/off and stuff, it's been so long I just think it's an omen

why else would the same big ufo be nesting in a place for months *shrug*

 No.56123

>>56099
sounds like reconnaissance. Probably the chinese.

 No.56128

>>56123
please don't shitpost here



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