Not really anon. But you should try finding more people to talk about it on the sub.
looks comfy and tasty
I just grew my first potatoes, I only got about 20 but it was fun and I will be doing it again. I also have some tomatoes, strawberries and lettuce growing.
wtf, how did I miss this thread, I'll post some stuff im growing tomorrow, its nothing professional, kinda small produce, but it still makes me happy
can you provide some info on pineapple growing? i could google but id much rather learn from another wizard. nice plants
well I got about 4 of em, I live in florida and they just grow by themselves I guess, usually get one pop up about once a year, they take forever but they're not too much of a hassle, they grow here all year round. The other plants I got take much more care or else they just die from bugs/disease/heat. You can basically just buy a pineapple from the store, stick it in the dirt anywhere you got free space, and eventually it'll grow another pineapple lol
All the trees and flowers are blooming and it was nice and warm for weeks but now it's gone freezing again and has been snowing for the past couple of days. Quite annoying. I was ready to get started growing stuff.
try to buy ripe ones, then cut off the top stem part. peel off the bottom leaves so a large area is exposed, then put it in water. i forget how long it takes but roots will form. then you just transplant it into some shady area for a while
I'm trying to get my land going. I am planning on planting several kinds of fruit and nut trees, as well as some shrubs and vines.
Today I planted a few coffee plants I bought and two young cocoa trees I seeded myself. I have a few squash melons on the way, some papayas, a couple pinneaples, two species of avocado (also just recently seeded). I plan to make a patch of corn and beans. I actually have a tiny patch of beans already under way. I also want to get some cassavas going, but I haven't had much success with that.
funny, I woke up today and all 4 of my rose bushes bloomed all over
I have some castor bean seeds I was planning on planting along the treeline but another wave of snow threw a wrench it to that.
I like the way they fill in and I read that it's easy to make suicide juice from their fruit.
I might drop from cheap string bean and tomato seeds around the yard and back woods, just so the rabbits have something to eat.
It is time to plant the ricin i mean castor oils beans.
I bought some seeds giant spanish onions, thornless raspberries and a few other seeds gonna start growing will post
going to start growing these in big tubshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hablitzia
bushy spinach vine. basically malabar but the plant survives for decades. needs stratified before planting which is always annoyinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyperus_esculentus
this is a 'grass' that produces an absurd amount of little tubers underground. they have high fat content and taste something like coconut/almond
I have a few things growing let me compile a list for you
I have a few things growing let me compile a list for you>>62093
also kale just need some soil potentially strawberries also
pics from over a week ago, it's been too rainy to even go outside this week, but this is what im growing. mostly brassicas, peppers, and tomatoes. some squash or pumpkin is also growing up from last year. other stuff from previous years include the blueberry bush and mints. pineapples, celery, and spinach were saved from getting thrown away after eating. if spinach or celery goes to seed i'll move them to a big tub and they will grow from those seeds next year probably. i have no idea how to grow brassicas for the heads, i mainly just like snacking on the leaves, but regardless some broccoli are producing heads now. i don't think they have enough light, the internode lengths are really big. tomatoes are two kinds one is a big sandwich kind, the other is some small cherry-like tomatoes. have no idea which is which anymore
has it ever been fertilized or given nitrogen
Yes I used industrial fertilizer on it more than once And some homemade fertilizers too But I think the biggest obstacle to the development of this plant is the cold climate of my city, well I think I'll buy another cocoa and plant the seed in a pot indoors
oh you have over fertilized then. try flooding the base with water to flush it all out
Not exactly,this is not the first time I have planted a tree and I was already aware of the various risks of using fertilizers on plants, such as monitoring the soil acidity and being careful with the use of nitrogen on it, as nitrogen can damage the soil and etc. … I used the industrial fertilizer according to the instructions given by the same, once every 20 days use a tablespoon on the plant, I was very careful with the use of the fertilizer.
It may not look like it but this plant it's almost a year old and it should have grown a lot more, I think I'll try to plant another one in an indoors pot to avoid the cold climate of my city
reading into cacao, it seems they have a minimum temp tolerance of 60f, anything below that and leaves drop. their leaves are perennial so if that thing is only a year old it should have all of its leaves still
even indoors might be hard since they need humidity. the plants have no strategy to limit moisture loss through the leaves. they rely on just moist ground and air. so indoors the air might be too dry for them. they will need soem crazy watering for sure
>>62108 > if that thing is only a year old it should have all of its leaves still
Ir does have all her leaves still, It was growing better during the summer, unfortunately this summer here in my city was cold until near the end when it started to warm up again, during this short period that stretched from the end of summer to the end of autumn the temperature rose enough and the tree gained some momentum in growth, but winter came and it stopped. nights this winter are reaching 48f on rare occasions tonight the temperature can reach 54f well i hope she survives. as for the control of the humidity for the tree indoor, I will pay close attention to that, thanks for the tip about watering it a lot, I will keep an eye on that.
i have other plants like a lemon tree and tomato, i will post a picture of them here tomorrow.
You have a cocoa tree indoors? Those grow pretty big, are you going to keep pruning it to keep it small? What about the roots?
First time gardening, started lettuce and basil seeds indoors late january. In Florida.
It all looks fucking terrible, like a gardener's worst nightmare. I can't even photograph it. One lettuce plant is doing great and thriving, but the others have either grown just to baby size or grown very tall and thin.
I'm trying another round with a bunch of herbs, cucumber and peppers. Potting up with my own mix this time instead of a gnat infested mess that is double the price.
wiz if you live in florida you can just plant lettuce any time of the year. it doesn't get cold enough, and lettuce tolerates cold really well
I have some places indoor with enough space, But if the tree grows too big I'll just move it outside.
As I promised here are the pictures of my lemon tree, it has several new branches growing on it even though it is winter, this is surprising.
Do you guys have a discord for gardening just for wizardchan it would be nice
are you french? the visual style of that urban porch area, and general vegetation reminds me of france. i like when people in urban areas grow plants, it makes the place seem more lively and refreshing
Doesn't lettuce hate 95 degree weather?
i dont recall the average florida temp ever being much above 80. 90s are just the high of the day. there are heat resistant varieties of lettuce, also loose leaf lettuce in general does better in the heat. but you can also simply plant where it is shaded. lettuce only needs a few hours of sun, so by the time it gets hot you could have it planted so it's shaded during the hot part of the day. shade reduces temps drastically, i googled and it says 10-15f
it's probably too much work if you want a gigantic bed of lettuce to find a spot that will shade it all, but maybe you have a long fence that gets sun in the morning and then is blocked the rest of the day. spots like that are worth trying
No, i'm a Brazilian wizard… but the city where I live in is very reminiscent of European cities, both in climate and in the style of architecture used.
I also like to grow plants in urban environments for decorative purposes and with that in mind I was thinking about starting to grow flowers as well.
also a photo of another plant of mine, a sweet pepper plant.
Frankly it is annoying to do gardening here. There are only a few good spots for it and I need to set up very secure fencing to keep all the critters out. Groundhogs are the worst as they will just dig under any fence.
It seems the best way to do gardening around here is to buy a house with a good lawn. But I don't want to put up with paying a mortgage and maintaining a house just for that.
do groundhogs fuck up container gardens? i feel like if it's tall enough they cant do shit
Mine's a raised bed but not very tall. If it's like those ones made out of metal roofing I imagine it would be safe from smaller animals. I should've done that, even though it takes a lot more dirt.
i've been mulching with all the cardboard boxes i get from the mail. maybe try that, i feel like it adds a lot of mass over time and it's free
oh nvm, i misread and thought you didn't fill it with enough dirt. that's an interesting problem having giant rodents trying to steal the shit you're growing. that sounds like war
WIZARD PLANT PEANUTS
update on the tiger nuts with fork for scale. grew them in a 1ft diameter pot. harvesting was simple, just pull the long grass clumps out and pick the tubers from the roots. didn't see any roots or anything deeper than 4 inches. got a surprising amount considering i only initially seeded like 20 tubers. took about 120 days. i also have already eaten a handful. they become sweeter as they dry out but they are still tasty fresh. cleaning was a pain in the ass, they are dirty as shit, you gotta really scrunch them together in water to knock everything off a bunch of times. i did it until the water became moatly clear. they are hard enough you cannot damage them by hand even if you grab a handful and squeeze them to death which lwts you be aggressive with cleaning
i replanted the grass after i picked off the tubers, curious if they can grow back or form new stuff before winter. maybe what forms i will keep in the soil and let it regrow next year
overall very cool, nothing seemed to bother them as they were growing. watered maybe once a week throughout the hot summer. wonder how much ppl would pay for them at a farmer market, it's something ive never seen here im guessing as a novelty it could be profitable
first frost of the year. RIP all the outdoor plants
>>63201>RIP all the outdoor plants
Indeed they shall. Plants sleep gently throughout winter's warmth. Weep not for them for they are at peace with Earth. They will awaken come sunshine's reign to breath the Earth's great air again.
if you want to try growing everything…
-figure how much of the stuff you eat per day
-find how long that vegetable takes to grow
-find how much space it requires to grow
for example let's assume a fake variety of lettuce head that somehow produces 100% of what you eat in a day, vegetable wise
-you eat 1 lettuce head of greenmagick per day
-it takes 30 days from seeding to harvest
-it requires 1 square foot of space per head
this means you need on average 30 square feet of space to grow enough of this lettuce to feed you indefinitely. but you can stack stuff with hydroponics
you also need to take into account the amount of light necessary. let's say each square foot requires 30 watts of lighting for the plants, your setup will be using 900 watts or like $40 at $0.12/kWh per month. need fertilizer as well, a lot of it. you will have to clean and replenish the water every few weeks to cut down fungi and algae growth. also if you have any leaks in your setup you can flood your entire house. you will be putting in at least an hour of work probably per day. if you have an expensive job or are very skilled at something, this time could very well outweigh the benefits and you might be better off jsut buying organic stuff locally
How did you grow them? Did you use a raised garden bed or just from the ground like normal? I hear potatoes need really acidic soil in order to grow. I plan to start my own garden this summer.
I may start a garden and buy a few bags of fertilizer and seeds. What type of plant should I grow in a shady backyard that will be good for soups and rice?
hard to say without more info. just try whatever interests you and see for yourself if it grows well or not. dont let some google search tell you what to do
You won't get much. The only plants you can grow indoors in a small space will be leafy greens which have practically no calories. And raw vegan fruitarian… -_- why do fall for such a meme.>>64183
Generally any plant that's low-growing and likes cool weather will do well in shade. Kale, radish, lettuce, etc. To be more precise you can refer to this website: http://www.heirloom-organics.com/guide/organicgrowingguides.html
Any plants that are listed as part shade you can definitely grow. Plants that are listed as full sun might also grow if you give them plenty of time. For example some potatoes like yukon gold will be ready to harvest in 80-90 days if given at least 6 hours of sunlight. So if they get 3 or 4 hours of sunlight you should be able to grow them in 3 or 4 months.
If you have a very warm climate this might also work with warm weather plants like tomatoes, however they require more sunlight and tend to become weak and vulnerable to pests and disease in too cool conditions, but it wouldn't hurt to try cherry tomatoes or something if you have a more sunny spot.
New year, time to organize what I want to do this year. I bought a load of 40L tubs, my aim is to use them to grow potatoes on the patio. I looked into getting those potatoes grow bags that have been on all the gardening shows lately, but it seems everyone has the same idea and sent the prices up, I can't justify spending so much on a bag that looks like it degrades and rips after a few years, so I bought a pile of builder rubble tubs instead.
you can stack used tires to grow potatoes
I would be worried about them absorbing toxic stuff from the tires and plastic.
The tires make harvest easier, just kick the tire. Fair enough about the tires being gross as another anon said
It is, they just haven't published their findings yet.
gardening is a past time not a caloric input to me. I grow edibles, but I only eat store bought food for 99/100 meals or more.
Potatoes are kind of a shitty grow to me because they are so cheap, they don't taste much better fresh (something like tomatos or bananas are a great deal though because of modern commercial standards prioritize cosmetics and shippability over flavor).
I don't worry about growing in plastic, and the tire potatoes are not something I grow anymore – been focusing on trees and stuff that I don't need to plant and propagate to every spring.
I worry more about the toxicity of fish, my state has guidelines recommending the maximum frequency of eating wild caught fish, organized by water source, and most of my nearest sources you shouldn't eat more than 1x week or month due to I guess heavy metal toxin build up.
>>64424>my nearest sources you shouldn't eat more than 1x week or month due to I guess heavy metal toxin build up.
Technophiles be like>Just live in a cabin in the wilderness bro>Don't worry about heavy metals>No one bothers you in the woods
Thanks for reinvigorating me. Industrial society must fall.
pretty big L that you need to be reminded about what industrial society does
Yes, it was a big L. I'm going to start tinkering again.
Don't forget to forage all the parts and not cause any damage to the ecosystem, wouldn't wanna poison any fishies
My effect is nil. Just as a communist would buy the implements of capitalism's destruction, or capitalists would use marxist philosophy to divide classes into intersectional wars of privilege, an ecofag must use the tool of industrialism against the industrial system.
>202. It would be hopeless for revolutionaries to try to attack the system without using SOME modern technology. If nothing else they must use the communications media to spread their message. …
Yeah just as long as you're going outside I don't care. I don't know anyone who got past high school, and isn't mentally stunted that cares about eco politics.
I am genuinely happy that people spend their time outside though. Don't just read Uncle Ted, go make your own bombs, go on. I believe in you
gardening, not green politics
Don't worry real feds will offer to meet you, bring you the required materials, and explain the game plan to you. My irreverent comment isn't how glowies work
I'm going on a tangent here, but people living in an apartment underneath me have a kid that they didn't give attention to during the first 3 years of his life. They just gave him a mobile phone to play. Kid is now addicted and screeches autistically when they take it away. He cries and throws a tantrum, trashing something or jumping around until his mother starts to cry. She screams at him but it doesn't help. Looking back when I was growing up, kids didn't have shit that they could get addicted to. You literally played with a fucking stick and imagined it was a sword or a gun. Maybe at 10 years you were already into PC games, but it's toddlers on tablets now. I talk like some kind of boomer, but I am 26 fucking years old. Even grown up people, let alone kids aren't ready for the technological jump that was portable phones with a PC processing power and internet. Ted is somewhat extreme. He doesn't like that people don't die from diseases because of advanced medicine, haha. But he has a point about some things.
I know it's off topic, but I just wanted to share my thoughts. When we were kids, we played in the garden. There, I filled my gardening quota for this post.>>64442
Also, CIA j*ws would target n*zi/crab sites and threads. Not gardening. It's easier to indoctrinate someone who is filled with hatred. His finger is already on a (metaphorical) trigger, you just point him where to shoot.
>>64443>Ted is somewhat extreme. He doesn't like that people don't die from diseases because of advanced medicine, haha. But he has a point about some things.
He actually says that modern medicine is great on its own and nobody should ever say otherwise, but that these good parts come with pernicious costs. One of them might be the obvious- in order to manufacture medicines, we need plastics, factories, infrastructure, and all the pollution that comes with it, but others are not so obvious; how do these medicines affect human evolution? How do they impact human physiology in the long term? He's actually extremely reasonable, but the media made him out to be an anarchist(he despises anarchy) and the meme kids make him out to be an extreme "Tech le bad!!" guy.
based uncle ted reader got quads
Modern medicine may be great on some fronts, well, you couldn't get very far without /some/ results, especially when it comes to health. But it also has many many many flaws,and it is in many ways no different from the barbaric practice that it was, say, in victorian times. And today it has been compromised by the left and it's weird agenda to produce trannies.
In what ways is medicine is still like barbaric Victorian medicine.
Victorian's didn't even know germs and here doing surgery unsterilized, vaccines are sophisticated with a 50+ year old theory
"sophisticated" is just a salesword for "complicated beyond our own comprehension". Vaccines have a 50+ year history of failure and irreparable damage.
>>64466>50 years failure irreparable damage
what is polio
what is small pox
what is hpv (and its related cancers)
what is hep b?
what is tetanus?
what is measles?
its clear you know neither anything about victorian or modern medicine.
matter of fact, can you tell me how its caused irreparable damage?
and no sophisticated was used to contrast it with victorian slugs with inaccurate theory, and blood letting with inaccurate theoru
shut the fuck up with this retarded vaccine and conspiracy and alt medicine bullshit, this thread is for plants and gardening you faggots
a problem i have when i grow leafy stuff like lettuce, broccoli, etc… is caterpillars. it is impossible to get those little bastards off once they hatch and spread. you come out one morning and poor plant is destroyed
i'm thinking by starting earlier in the year it can be avoided, but i dont think i started early enough this year. should have started indoors, instead i sowed last month and just let them sprout when they are ready but i dont think any cold will come so really it was a waste of time
i want to experiment and plant a bunch of things one year and find out which are pest free and hardy
I have yet to try this, but I heard use coffe grounds keep them away.
You need a lot of it though, mostly around your garden bed so it doesn't acidify your soil. Or you could add ome lime to balance that out.
You could go to your local cafeteria and ask them for their coffee grounds, they usually don't mind giving you their waste.
not sure if that will do anything, the caterpillars arrive via eggs laid by butterflies. unless the coffee grounds somehow turn the plant super acidic and the caterpillars cant eat it, idk
Well, the permaculture way would be to have native perennials that host parasitoid wasps and other predators, but that of course depends on how much space you have available. You can also try intercropping repelent plants like marigolds, or sacrificial plants that attract the caterpillars. Maybe a little house for geckos nearby.
There's also chickens, but they can wreck havoc in your garden too if you keep exposed soil or let them in with the seedlings. To avoid the scratching I usually cover the soil with rocks.