No.56338
>>56337thats bullshit
why u use fuckin use manjaro nigger
thats a meme distro omg
No.56339
>>56338you're running i3, mozilla firefox, and kornshell, at 1366x768 on a lenovo chinkpad
who is the real meme here
No.56341
>>56337boypill me on Manjaro plz
No.56343
>>56342I recall somebody saying its repository or package manager was crappy or something like that
No.56346
>>56344>>56344>bash>xfce>2500+ packages installed>5gb ram idle>'devuan'bro what are you even doing lmao
No.56347
>>56343pacman is simple and clean, apt-get/dpkg is like a taped together homunculus
No.56348
>>56346>>5gb ram idleit's cache for squid and unbound
>>the restyou might not like it but this is what perfection looks like
No.56349
I see my desktop maybe once per month, briefly
I always have a window open fullscreen
No.56350
>>56343Don't base your opinions on something some random person said sometime, and definitely don't base them on memes. That said I hate manjaro because I accidentally destroyed my system trying to install it. >:(
No.56351
>>56350this
fuck manjaro
NIGGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
No.56353
>>56350>I accidentally destroyed my system trying to install it. >:you are pissed because you "accidentally" destroyed your other OS that you were going to need to destroy anyway to install the new OS? lol
No.56355
>>56353you can have more than one operating sytem
No.56358
>>56355it wasn't clear in the post that it was supposed to be a dual boot
No.56360
>>56350>>56351im surprised. ive run manjaro solo boot and dual boot alongside windows and other linux distros without issue. polished look and polished performance. the only reason it isn't my daily driver is because i have issues getting my vpn's running on it here in china.
No.56419
I had a distrohopping period from 2014 to 2016, then spent a year on archlinux which was the most interesting and stable for me. It was so fun to customize and tinker with stuff and i'm not even a programmer or anything. But then I bought a decent PC and just installed W10 LTSC which is also very stable and too simple to use.
But your screenshots make me want to play with distros again and discover the progress they achieved. I wish I had a laptop to do such things. Sorry for the lack of picture.
No.56500
>>56414Update I have been using this for a while but I think I should explain the reasons Gnome works for me, and may not be worth it for you
1. I stay inside emacs for a lot of things, so I don't need to use my mouse. Gnome is heavily mouse driven and the keybinds are cumbersome and inconsistent compared to something like a minimal OS where (for example) i3, vim, mpv, ranger, and MUpdf all share keybinds and you don't have to use a mouse.
2. My mouse sensitivity is set high 4800 dpi. This means I can use the "hot corner" which causes pic related, a mode where you can search for programs, files or select a window.
3. I don't game. Gnome use wayland which AFAIK doesn't support wine and maybe some other important stuff but im not to sure yet
4. I have 8Gb ram.
No.56525
>>56524>idk why you guys don't just use windows.There are a lot of people explaining why they like Linux itt.
What distro did you try?
No.56526
>>56525I tried mint on my virtual machine and it wasn't very user friendly at all
No.56527
>>56524Probably because Linux is objectively better. The 3 issues a person can have with Linux are
>A. It's missing a piece of software that you're used to.In this case Linux usually has alternatives that are feature complete. The reason it's still a problem for people is because they don't want to get used to the alternatives. They might know rationally that Microsoft Excel doesn't offer more than Linux spreadsheet software, but they're so used to it that it seems like too much effort to learn something new.
>B. Incompatible with their hardware.Not a Linux issue, it's usually an issue of Microsoft paying nvidia to delay device drivers for Linux and Mac or Nvidia paying a game developer to sabotage performance on AMD platforms
>C. It's different.When someone gets really used to a specific thing it can be hard to change.
>D. Bonus: Fell for propagandaLinux always outperforms Windows except on the newest video games or video games that don't get native Linux ports. I suppose if someone only cares about new triple-A games then Windows is the best option. However, Linux still outperforms Windows in memory footprint, CPU utilization, disk space, and more. It's kind of well known that Windows cannot compete with MacOS and Linux but I thought I'd throw that in. Really, Windows is the gamers choice but not because it has good performance itself, but because most games are designed to perform well on Windows(because most gamers use Windows).
Windows: For people who don't know any better.
>-Horrible privacy since Win8>-Horrible performance(compared to Unix OS's) since msDOS>-Horrible for developers(most choose Mac or Linux)>-Horrible freedom and customizability>+Game devs target WindowsMacOS: For people who want something better than Windows and/or they fell for the Apple brand name.
>-Horrible privacy>-Horrible freedom and customizability>+Great performance>+Good for development>+Unix basedLinux: For people who want something better than Windows but don't care about Apple branding.
>-Dependency hell is a thing that can happen in some popular distros>-OS fragmentation(too many distros very few standards)>+Best performance, although only marginally better than Mac>+Best for development>+Unlimited freedom and customizability>+Okay privacy on average>+Unix based No.56533
>>56526>mint … wasn't very user friendlyIm not surprised.
Most so called beginner linux's fail to teach the user and also fail to work perfectly with just the non terminal tools.
No.56551
>>56550and vodka, dont forget about the vodka
No.56552
>>56550>monitor 1: discord or some gay chat>monitor 2: reddit or some browser-specific website>monitor 3: videogame>monitor 4: streamerthis is what people use multiple monitors on, am i wrong. it's stupid no thanks
No.56553
>>56552yeah, what do you use your one monitor?
also the fuck is a "browser-specific website"?!
No.56555
>>56552Nah, bro, it's more like:
>monitor 1: various stock exchange real-time graphs and charts>monitor 2: hackeresque terminal for taking screenshots quickly>monitor 3: ricing tutorial>monitor 4: web browser with hundreds of tabsAfter I add my fifth monitor and put some random anime in the background, my productivity will go through the roof.
No.56556
>>56554i found them funny and i have an obsession of archiving…
No.56557
>>56555>monitor 1: various stock exchange real-time graphs and chartsno
>monitor 2: hackeresque terminal for taking screenshots quicklyi have a hot key for that
>monitor 3: ricing tutorialno
>monitor 4: web browser with hundreds of tabsthat is surprisingly accurate
i have only 3 monitors tho mate
No.56598
>>56524the reason we don't use Windows is because we all had a reason to use Linux.
for me, I wanted a cooler Command Line™ and to have access the large amount of stronger linux softwares such as an upgraded notepad and resource conscious software.
No.56599
>>56558I try to not post cartoon pictures on /b/ anymore because they might report me to the FBI.
No.56682
this isn't a new computer i just don't really care about much doing anything on them anymore. i basically read, listen to music, or browse the internet or very simple things like that. same goes for customization or linux, i just don't care about any of that.
>>56527in time you'll realize this is all a waste of time anyways.
No.56746
God, what is that!
No.56754
>>56708this whole desktop screams look at me and not in a good way
No.56756
>>56755simple and clean is always good, nice wallpaper as well
No.56758
>>56756Thanks man. Appreciate it
No.56762
>>56336Hello, fellow Firefox and uBlock Origin user. The DE is i3, right?
No.56766
>>5676321:9 monitor. It's great for multitasking (and gaming but lot of new games don't support it)
No.56768
>>56767>Graveyard KeeperI immediately assumed it was a game where you do graveyard maintenance, bury people and maybe pacify some ghosts but it's just some generic medieval themed rpg. What a letdown.
No.56771
>>56769I watched 20 minutes of a 10h gameplay skipping back and forth and 90% of the time he's either messing around the inventory screen, walking around some dungeon or looking for stuff in an open field. I mean I saw the graveyard once. Didn't look like a graveyard keeping simulator to me. That's the impression I got from the video at least.
Did you enjoy the game? I might actually watch the gameplay a little more attentively if it's worth it.
No.56773
>>56764Aaaaaaand I bricked it trying to change permissions for all of /etc/ hoping it wouldake php work. don't have another pc to make another installation media so I'm scvewd
No.56809
I miss power rangers dreams :/
Those alpha gatherings in 2019 were the best
No.56810
>>56809Across the Atlantic once more…
No reception again…
At least no one was mislead these time
No.57160
>>56807very interesting, what program makes the metal boxes for the eight ball?
No.57162
There is no need to post mine because its just Ubuntu 16 with default Unity shell and wallpaper.
Its funny that one of the reasons I wanted to switch to Linux was for these ricing\desktop threads but I soon realized it was retarded. Same for distro hopping, I will just stick with Ubuntu for a very, very long time, it has everything I need for development.
I dont want to go full sperg on this stuff like I do with basically every game that can be modded.
>>56682Very wise wiz. Linux is really only useful for tech-related work and if you cant deal with Windows updates and licenses or when need to go full tin-hat.
If you value your time or just want something that works stick to Windows until Linux becomes mainstream.
No.57359
>>56848what do you do with 16gigs of memory on that thing
No.57361
>>56555>>monitor 2: hackeresque terminal for taking screenshots quicklythe PrintScreen key dude! JFC…
>>56682I see the wisdom in your approach wiz and am slowly starting to use mine in a similar way
No.57584
>>57359Basically looking for memes all day
No.58508
>>57605What browser do you use? It looks cool.
No.58526
>>58508Pale Moon with Netscape theme
No.58529
>>58528>I even save all of my passwords on their managerBut can that manager save your post from being deleted by some cheeky wiz because you didn't edit out your file deletion key from the screenshot?
No.58530
>>58529go for it brother
i dont care about nothing
it's cool
just do what you gotta do
No.58558
>>58557You're gonna give me an anxiety attack. I cannot believe you trust others that much.
No.58559
How do you deal with all the little quirks of running windows software on linux? Or maybe even just software that has inferior integration with linux than it does on windows. I was just thinking steam is pretty awful on linux, randomly freezes, ui doesn't conform to the de, sometimes games even have linux builds but they run awfully and you need to tweak them a whole bunch. Also file managers don't work how I want them to, upload boxes in firefox/chrome only show list views. Pretty much every piece of software is just doing its own thing and occasionally(or maybe a bit more than occasionally) two things clash together, don't cooperate, and make a mess.
No.58566
>>58559You just accept the quirks and be all like, "this is the non-proprietary experience" and reassure yourself by saying stuff like, "at least I'm not using Windows"
No.58567
>>58558He probably changed the deletion password since it is a double post.
No.58570
>>58557Security and privacy are interlinked. You may not care about Google knowing everything, but I'm 100% sure you will care if your data gets leaked and people are stealing your money and doing crimes under your identity
No.58575
unless you're a hackerman-supreme, hyper concern for privacy is fake & gay and most are deluding themselves into thinking that they're actually secure because they use something like brave or aren't running proprietary software
the intel/AMD management engines backdoors literally allow for every keystroke you make to be accessible by TPTB and 99.9% of people won't be able to disable or mitigate these things, and those who try will end up bricking their machine
while I agree there are practices you can do to mitigate some surface level spying from advertisement networks, the vast majority of us are just as exposed to spying as the average boomer
No.58576
>>58570idk, it seems more likely that your average Bank is more susceptible of fucking up the security of their customer data than Google is.
No.58578
>>58557>>58567Looks like someone else did a civic duty by preemptively reposting it on my behalf. heh.
Anyways. Yeah,
>>58558 I used to be obsessively paranoid and protective regarding all of my data to the best of my ability and didn't use my real name on the internet for any service until 2019 or so, and I'd even do crazy shit like feed fake searches and run random youtube videos in the background to feed the algorithm irrelevant info in hopes of diluting their profile of me. For whatever reason over the past year I stopped caring and became curious about using all these newfangled immersive cloud services and got a good deal on a Pixel 5 and was all like, "meh, whatever".
I think I got demoralized into accepting that I'm irrelevant, and that "they" already know my entire internet traffic, posts, viewing habits, online activities since forever and that it's too late to clean all this up. If it were possible I wish I could wipe the entire internet & government servers of all of my online residue but I don't know how to do that.
No.58579
>>58576It is more about you getting malware or leaking your passwords. And Google is just full of stupid humans too. There are cybersecurity breaches literally every minute, EVERY big company is getting breached, it is insane. Most of it nobody even hears about because they are kept secret and used carefully, so people arent sure what happened when they get fucked. Seeing here that people dont know how bad the situation is is so disturbing
No.58721
>>58576If Google has my data then the security of my data is already fucked.
No.58908
>>58721there are backdoors in every CPU that is capable of reporting back your keystrokes and everything going through the USB port on your computer
even if you use non-proprietary shit, your information is still being transmitted to the BORG-cloud
No.59006
>>56346weak b8 m8 i r8 0/8
No.59013
>>58717I use a similar setup as a kiosk for emacs, which perhaps defeats the purpose of minimalism, but I've been happy with it for a long time. Nice wallpaper btw.
>>59009I noticed that with a low contrast wallpaper, the compression artifacts were clearly visible. You just have to set the wallpaper from outside the context menu to avoid that.
No.59014
I got wallpaper engine last steam sell.
I love it so much and I haven't even used it to it's full potential or made my own yet.
No.59020
>>59009You can fix it by installing GNU/linux
No.59022
>>59013>You just have to set the wallpaper from outside the context menu to avoid that.Doesn't seem to be the point as I've always been setting them up through an image viewer app. Eh not a big deal, I'll just keep using the Engine.
That image I posted butchers presentation of the issue btw, the gif format added its own compression.
>>59014Can you please elaborate if one needs constantly running Steam for it to work? I'm currently using a pirated version but would buy it just for the fact of its laughably cheap price. But the supposed Steam dependency is such a deal breaker. I don't even let game clients run outside of playtime. Then there's downloading others' wallpapers by "subscribing" to them… ugh.
To stay on topic, here's the desktop. Stock Rainmeter to get rid of shortcuts that I haven't bothered to even reskin yet, and taskbar on auto-hide.
No.59024
>>59022You don't need steam running for already downloaded/subscribed wallpapers but you do need it running to get or search for new ones using the workshop.
No.59042
>>59024Thanks. Will probably get the licensed version after all.
No.59070
>>56807May I ask for font?
No.59071
>>59070terminal font was sgi fonts, audacious was using lanapixel
No.59121
I feel like such a mong as a Windows user among all these Linuxers with customized layouts/builds. With more computer grammar gained recently it started to dawn on me just how clunky and all over the place Windows OS is. "Muh gamez" used to be the major turn-off but I'm seeing games with Linux compatibility everywhere now. I really should just make that jump, maybe with the next machine.
No.59122
>>59121i will probably make the switch when windows 10 is obsolete. even this shit pisses me off though. after disabling updates, and windows forcing itself to try and update anyway, it has unregistered my machine and so i have some gay watermark about registering now, and several features are just outright disabled now. what a piece of ass
No.59123
>>59121>how clunky and all over the place Windows OS isLinux is worse with this, your entire system runs on software written by a bunch of different people all held together with glue and tape, you can completely brick your system by just updating a bunch of packages
>games with Linux compatibility everywhere nowMassively exaggerated, every game with linux compatibility has a "but" at the end "it runs, but…" this "but" can be anything from some minor issues that are slightly annoying, to completely unplayable without jumping through a bunch of hoops and messing with tons of config files just so you can play a game for 20 minutes. Sure, compatibility is a lot better than it was 10 years ago but it's still shit. My usual problems are low fps, input lag, bugs with sound playback, random crashes, and visual artifacts/glitches.
>>59122>windows forcing itself to try and updatefirst,
https://www.w10privacy.de/deutsch-start/download/, it works fine and I never had any regression of settings
>secondWhy do you have a problem with updating your pc? I've heard this line from nearly everyone I ever interacted with, nothing bad has ever happened from installing an update, I just occasionally check if theres an update out and then I download it and then install it before I go to bed
>it has unregistered my machinejust use hwidgen
No.59128
>>59123Thanks for the info and sorry for late reply. Guess it's not all that black-and-white, huh.
I'm not completely against using Windows, just tired with its rough edges that you can do nothing about, only cover or pretty it up.
In the end though it probably has to deal more with a longing for "my own" or "perfect" OS, where everything is just the way one wants. Switching for Linux/GNU might not help with that itch. At the very least I should still try them on a spare machine once/if I get one.
No.59142
>>59128>In the end though it probably has to deal more with a longing for "my own" or "perfect" OS, where everything is just the way one wants. Switching for Linux/GNU might not help with that itch. Not the person you're replying to, but I'd give it a shot. Linux undoubtedly has its issues, and it's true that, at the end of the day, Linux is composed of a ton of different parts made by different people, and there are a billion different distros and DEs, so consistency can be all over the place (it's getting better, though, in my opinion). However, I'd argue that one of the nice things about Linux is that you can basically put together your own desktop environment from scratch, which means that your desktop can (mostly) be as consistent and polished as you're willing to make it. It also means that you can implement a ton of personalized functionality that would be difficult to achieve with an WYSIWYG program or operating system. It's hard to describe if you're used to using systems like that, but with some imagination you can get really creative with what you make your computer do. If nothing else, it's fun. For example, here's a demonstration of a program that lets you make your own menus/prompts, which you can use in conjunction with scripts you write:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9m723tAurAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCEXY46t3OAI think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say you can "brick your system" just from an update–I've certainly never heard of a Linux update wiping people's files the way Windows has done in the past (repeatedly). I use Arch which has a reputation for being unstable, and the most I've ever had to do is just hold back an update since some programs weren't launching (and it turns out my system was fucked due to something that was my own fault anyway). On the note of games, there are a lot of games out there that are genuinely just a one-click play through Proton, but there's still a LOT out there that require minor tweaks to get working. That being said, if Valve is serious about the Steam Deck as a product, they're presumably going to strive to clean up those rough edges. It doesn't hurt to keep a Windows dual boot (or, if you're adventurous, a Windows VM with GPU passthrough) around for gaming.
No.59156
>>59142>you can basically put together your own desktop environment from scratch, which means that your desktop can (mostly) be as consistent and polished as you're willing to make itthen you open firefox, and you go to upload an image or file and…. it doesn't use your default file manager…. Just one of the simple things that annoys me, but there are many more small issues like this, gtk/qt bullshit, stuff like steam that doesn't follow any rules whatsoever, just random applications not conforming to your rules because the devs were just like "idk lol works on windows"
>I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say you can "brick your system" just from an update–I've certainly never heard of a Linux update wiping people's files the way Windows has done in the past Well not completely bricked, you could go in and probably get a terminal up and try to fix whatever went wrong, going over google searches for hours and for example finding out your display manager broke or something because it doesn't work with some new libs you updated or whatever. The potential for this tomfoolery is definitely there which isnt there for windows, also never experienced any file wipes on windows in my life, only time Ive seen that is when my parents get angry because they want to use their pc but they told it to update so they just keep shutting it off mid-update/repair until it doesn't work anymore
>if Valve is serious about the Steam Deck as a product, they're presumably going to strive to clean up those rough edgestheir client is awful on linux, the new chat thing they added a while back has a memory leak on linux and crashes every few hours if you are using it often, it pretty much dropped support for custom theming now and doesn't respect your DE's rules, source games have horrible performance on linux, you can't even play goldsrc games on linux unless you have some specific sound drivers. Valve is a mess with linux, I don't expect much from them at this point
No.59447
>>56336fedora workstation default install, pretty much a gnome os, i even use gnome web (epiphany) for everything, this computer is too overpowered for my use but at least i won't have to worry about redhat being redharted for 5 or 10 years; i only play taisei and poke with random games i find in gnome software
i mean they are smart enough not to fill 16 gb of ram needlessly, right?
right?