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A thread for those who enjoy and wish to discuss animation and animation related stuff from places that aren't Japan.
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Haven't got around to watching the reboots but if you don't mind the dated references they are really good. It isn't just nostalgia.


Most are pretty good, but they aren’t as universally classic as say, the old looney toons.


Not even mad.
Just confused and mildly annoyed.
They don't have genitalia and don't sexually reproduce, don't have romantic relationships, and don't form family units.
How the fuck does it make any sense to make a gay transformer?
These people have mental problems and Netflix is cancer.


It's netflix so what can you expect? Not that I'm completely clean of pairing robots together in my head fanfics, but actually putting it in to a show? lmao


>Puppets aren't cartoons or animation.
Yes they are. Puppets are inanimate objects that, when moved, create an illusion of life. In other words, they are animated.
It was good, but it will leave a void in your soul when finished. Some people fill that void with The Barbarian and the Troll, I know I did. It's a comedy and some of the humor is "cheesy", but it's campy fun. It's the one modern Nickelodeon original I can think of that doesn't appeal exclusively to kids with ADHD


>They don't have genitalia and don't sexually reproduce, don't have romantic relationships
They're just appealing to the franchise's main demographic


Fuck all the way off.


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Had a interesting plot and premise, even ok writing overall. The story is good.
The main problem is the execution. It looks really bad. The animation is amateurish and stilted, the models are mediocre and the texturing is offensive in how bad it is. The lighting is simplistic, just every visual aspect is mediocre or worse.
Ashamed because the voice work of most of the characters makes it almost tolerable. Even for a low budget small studio project this poor level of execution isn't really acceptable.

In fact I would say that the overall whole thing is interesting ideas executed poorly. Oh, and all of the spliced creatures including the boy are annoying and ugly. Just saying.

Overall I give it a 2 out of 5.


I will not. Give puppets a chance, wiz.


Why the fuck do you keep shitting up the thread with things that aren't cartoons?
If it isn't a cartoon it doesn't belong in the cartoon thread.
Fuck off.
Dealt with the same bullshit with some retard posting anime in the thread.
It doesn't belong in this thread.
You know full well it doesn't belong in this thread.
Get a life and stop.


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Legend of Deification also know as Jiang Ziya

The writing was a bit weak but the studios involved pulled out all the stops to make it one of the most visually stunning animated features I have seen from 2020.
It really is a treat to behold. Just wish the story and concept was a bit better fleshed out.
It is refreshing to see something recent out of China that isn't blatantly propaganda and instead stand on their own as a work of art and expression.

I recommend it if you want to look at something pretty and/or have some background knowledge in Chinese folklore.


Tried watching Xico's Journey
Oh god is it a stinker. Cheap, ugly, stupid, and paced poorly to be boring.
Worst yet it is even more in your face with it's dumb eco/political message then FernGully. Very obnoxious.
You can probably also tell it's one of those thing made for children by someone who bearly interacts with children kind of thing from the writing and overall structure.
Just dreadful in every regard.
1 out of 5. Don't waste your time.


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It somehow wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
Still bad.
Still a 1 out of 5
but I have seen worse and it isn't boring so that is something. Plus it's short so it is over before it gets too annoying. Seen reviews saying it is a dumpster fire, can confirm is indeed a dumpster fire.


I found this Don Quixote cartoon made in Spain. The animation is really bad and the cartoon only adapts chapters from the first’s part, but, I think it was a nice attempt to produce a cartoon based in one of the classics of literature, because no network or streaming service in these times would even think in producing something that has real culture in it. Is there any cartoon or animated short that do the same with Shakespeare or Goethe?


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Be careful what you wish for.


I had skimmed over a Family Guy episode called "Brian's Play", and honestly, a bunch of missed opportunities.

Brian makes a play, it actually goes well so Stewie makes a play in a day, Brian reads it, gets real jealous, tells Stewie the play's bad and eventually tries to destroy it. Stewie finds out, tells him off spectacularly. In another rendition of Brian's play (where everything is still going well), Stewie rubs his success in Brian's face by saying he's going to Hollywood. They both go, some playwrights or something insult Brian's play without knowing he was the playwright, Stewie gives up on his play to make Brian feel bad, end.

So many missed lessons here and so many missed character growth opportunities. I feel like Brain was kind of an idiot lying to Stewie and trying to destroy the play but Stewie rubbing it in made him a dick. Him giving up on the play doesn't make him any less talented or a bad friend.

So many different lessons like how Brian's play was actually a huge success compared to his book, "Faster than the Speed of Love" ever was. No readers vs a huge crowd of people. A huge improvement and that affection he said he wanted. Brian's play was also praised very highly by critics. Him getting jealous is totally reasonable if not for Stewie being a genius already. As for those people who insulted his play, just ignore them. The lesson could be to focus on improvements instead of what you want to be in the future. So sad he let other people get in the way of his dream. By the way, obviously he was letting the reviews get to his head. Still, it's just another opportunity to tone down Brian's crappy personality traits and develop him as a better writer and person. In the end, it was one development and a bunch of take downs on his character. I wish he could have accepted his dream coming true and finally coming to peace with his writing or something. He's been a drunkard because of his "inability" to write for a while.


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Any y'all like Infinity Train? I thought it was pretty cool and interesting. Especially first season, since the workings of the train were still pretty mysterious. While the series did focus on morals, it never got preachy. I also really liked that each season was so much different than the others. It kept things fresh. On the other hand, some episodes were pretty cringey. I guess what drew me in most was the memorable setting and characters. What did y'all think?


Why. It’s not only Netflix, is every network now. Why every cartoon needs to has his own gay or dike character? Those people exist, but it seems forced that almost every show has its own gay couple. The most forced one I know is Luz and Amity from the owl house. Amity develops a crush on Luz only in a few episodes, even if she hated her before. Also, I can´t stop noticing Amity dyes his hair just the same color Dana Terrace used to dye his own hair. Maybe is a coincidence.
I don’t care if a character is gay; the thing I can’t understand is this

>X character develops a crush on another character of the same Gender

>Y character also has a crush on the X character. Even if he/she used to have a crush for a character of the opposite sex.

>Now they are a couple.

The only thing I know where one of the characters shows anger or disgust for being kissed by a character of his same sex is the last issue of Miracleman written by Neil Gaiman. I know this thread is for cartoons, but this was the only example I know


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The Willoughbys was alright.
Probably the silliest thing I have seen in months. Just a fun movie. Story is a bit weak and it's all over the place but it is very oddly satisfying by the end.

The visual style is pretty intresting too.
Not the greatest thing ever or some sort of instant classic but it is just a fun silly movie with a good spirit and a slightly dark edge.
Would highly recommend to actual children. As for adult animation fans, it's not bad but I think enjoyment strongly depends on mood.
I liked it, but I was in the mood for what it was.


I hear it's good but still haven't got around to watching it.
I also heard it got canceled, so that means while it was popular with adult/older animation fans actually children probably weren't wild about it and it underpreformed in the numbers or in merch sells. Shame since streaming in theory should open the way to shows with a older audience should still be able to find their place and get funded.

Maybe tech will keep progressing so that it will get even cheaper and easier for small teams to make quality animation on really small budgets.


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Watched the animated adaptation of Mimi and the Mountain Dragon that the BBC came out with a few years ago.

It was interesting that rather then sound effects they instead made uses of a full orchestra for everything but human voices.
It was around 25 minutes so long enough to tell the full story without sticking around to the point of being boring. The art is a interesting take, as it isn't quite like the story book, it's more doing it's own thing, but it still looks nice and the animation is alright for what it is. Nothing masterful but fluid and gets the job done.
Overall I think it is a good animated adaptation. I recommenced giving it a watch if you got a half hour to kill. It at the very least sounds nice and is pretty relaxing due to the music focus.


I hate this annoying trend of pretending this dumb doodles are somehow transformed something "serious" and add "lore" and "psychological" bullshit, it is an embarrassment, in the end is just ugly stick drawings for fat american children.


good bye alaskan crab
Enjoy your bucket alone


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Waltz with Bashir

I am shocked I never heard of this movie before now.
Was a mild pain to find, and the subtitled version sucks ass because the subs are timed wrong (at least in the ones I could find) but the dub is serviceable.

Anyway, the way I would describe the movie is mature. Not in the way it is normally used when referring to media, but as in the way it handles such difficult and fucked up subject matter in a way that is personal, accurate, and yet in a way somehow respectful and with just enough restraint to prevent any portion of it from being tasteless. Coupled with the tone and thematic device of memories and stories of the past, just gives it the feel of mature men recollections of some of the worst times of their lives. Men with years and whole other lives to reflect on those events and gain perspective.

It's one of those good movies that make you feel like shit. I like it, I respect as a work of art, but I probably wont watch it again.


Finally got around to watching Fire and Ice by Ralph Bakshi.
Holy shit does it look great. While the plot is a bit thin everything else makes up for it. It is also the best use of rotoscoping I have ever seen, and proof that it can work if you have a talented team that knows what the hell they are doing, even if some of the action felt "floaty" at times.
Also Teegra is painfully hot, even blowing most anime succubi out of the water. Bonk me with the horny stick all you want but "god damn she fine" is all I got to say on the subject.

Anyway it is a great looking film and overall a good action/adventure/fantasy film all be it a bit on the simple side.
I highly recommend it.


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Forgot the poster picture.


Will be the Calarts style still a thing in the 2020s? I wonder what will be the style of this decade. Or maybe the bean and worm face will be here forever?


Let me ask you this, can you even name a show currently airing in that style?


>Also Teegra is painfully hot, even blowing most anime succubi out of the water. Bonk me with the horny stick all you want but "god damn she fine" is all I got to say on the subject.
my brother

sword and sorcery shit from the 80s will always be awesome to me


Amphibia, Big City Greens, We bare bears, Centaur world, Craig of the Creek, etc.


How is We bare bears, Centaur world,Craig of the Creek, Big City Greens, or Amphibia calarts exactly?
The only thing visually similar about them is related to color use, which may have more to do with the tools used then style.
And as far as I can tell most/all the people involved in the production of those shows didn't actually go to California Institute of the Arts, nor is the typical "calarts style" employed. It would be great if you could actually define exactly what you mean by "calarts".


If you can't or won't see it then there's nothing I can do.


If you can't or won't explain yourself or even the basic definition or description of the thing you take issue with then a discussion on the topic is impossible.

Define your terms and explain yourself.


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I can.

Bean mouth, thin uniform lines, little to no shading, simplistic geometric shapes, mere circles for heads and for eyes, stuck in 3/4th view, disregard for anatomy and perspective.


Would you describe We bare bears, Centaur world,Craig of the Creek, Big City Greens, or Amphibia as fitting this description?

Or any other currently airing show for that matter?

And does it even really matter when even movies like Iron Giant are/were called Calarts as a putdown.
I just seems to me to be a useless term for whatever trend in American animation someone personally doesn't like. So the meaning changes as taste and trends change, but it's always a generic insult and it rarely has much to do with California Institute of the Arts in any way.


Why are you so hung up on cal arts? It's just a term for the style at this point, no one cares about the shitty art school.


You are the one that brought the topic up and wanted to talk about it.
What the hell do you mean why am I hung up on it?
Why are you so hung up on it?
What the fuck?


I mean the word. You're here arguing semantics when there is a clear style presented that you ignore.


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>there is a clear style presented that you ignore.
There isn't at all
How do any of these look even remotely the same?
All are called calarts and none of them are stylistically similar enough to make whatever the fuck you can't seem to explain obvious.
The term is pointless and you don't know what you are talking about. You just expect people to somehow just know what your personal definition of a non-word is and act like it has ever had descriptive qualities that anyone has ever agreed on.
And for what reason?

Even if calarts had a coherent and agreed upon meaning, which it doesn't, it doesn't seem to mean much if things can vary so wildly in apparent and it isn't a indication of quality, labor, or talent on the part of the creators.

So in the end you can functionally swap out the word calarts and change the meaning of >>59712
>Will stuff I don't like but can't explain why still be a thing in this decade? I wonder if stuff I don't like will be the style of this decade. Or maybe ways of doing a face I don't like will be here forever?
And the same amount of information was conveyed.


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I want to know where you ever saw anyone accuse iron giant of being calarts shit.


That Retard who made Ren & Stimpy used to call the faux-disney look as "Calarts".

When I say Calarts I just meand "the modern simplistic, geometric, flat style western Animation has had since the late 90's"


Calarts isn't actually a specific style or a useful descriptor.


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>simplistic, geometric, flat style western Animation has had since the late 90's
It sounds like you are describing the old cartoon cartoon shows from CN, which I almost never hear described as calarts.


Whenever i see calarts mentioned it is in reference to the art style of specifically 1. Adventure time or 2. Steven universe. This guy >>59744 gave a good definition and even a meme that illustrates the point and for some reason we are still discusses what it is.


And to what end?
What is even the point anyway?



Fuck frederator.


Regardless the vast majority of the info presented is legit.


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