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A thread for those who enjoy and wish to discuss animation and animation related stuff from places that aren't Japan.


Galactic Kids Next Door: The Sequel That Never Was

The most information out so far on the whole Galactic kids next door experiment in one video.
Pretty cool even if you weren't a huge KND fan.


Just some cool background information on Batman Beyond's conception and production.


>aren't Japan.
OK. 3DCG French animation is ok?


This is too funny.

I can wait for it to be translated so I can watch.
Just hearing about it has my sides in orbit.


Totally and 100% ok.


lol americunts


>hey kids
>want to see my willy stretch like john dillermand? :D


i hate cartoons but i watched superman red son yesterday, no surprise that "it was too cartoonish" is my biggest complaint. i hated the art style and handwavy explanations and asspulls but enjoyed the basic plot and idea of a soviet superman


Dude that was the least for "cartoony" cartoon you could go, I bet you will go crazy with the shit posted on /b/


it changed a lot of stuff from the comic


>hates cartoons
>still watches cartoons despite hating them
>complains that he hated it
>on in a thread about a subject he hates

Why do people do this?
And why is it always cartoons that bring out such people?
Do people go to the anime threads just to point out how much they hate anime?


>Do people go to the anime threads just to point out how much they hate anime?
yes actually





Don't do that here or any of the other surface threads.


Is anyone else here into Xavier: Renegade Angel?


"i hate cartoons" is just an exaggerated opinion based on what little cartoons i've watched as an adult, it doesn't mean i cannot watch any cartoons. it doesn't mean i automatically know i'll hate future cartons. it looked cool so i gave it a watch, and i didn't hate it overall, only some aspects of it.


>Do people go to the anime threads just to point out how much they hate anime?
yeah it's very common


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I finally got around to watching Wolfwalkers today. Unfortunately I had to torrent it because I'm not gonna pay for Apple Plus or whatever it's called just to watch one movie, I'll buy a physical copy if they ever make one just to support Cartoon Saloon though. It's a fairly basic retelling of an Irish folktale and it drags on a bit towards the end but god damn it's probably the most beautiful animated film released in the past 15 years (eat your heart out Spider-verse).



I love Xavier its one of my favorite shows


Not a fan myself.
Just didn't find most of the jokes funny.
It also isn't very nice to look at.


my all time favorite adult swim show. nearly every single line of dialogue is layers of jokes.


wish it was online in quality HD


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Mune: Guardian of the Moon

Despite it being french I didn't hate it.
It was pretty average in most ways but I expected worse. It doesn't stand out in any regard but is a ok animated movie with a relatively unique style and several scenes that are cool. I especially like the dream sequences that are done in a more traditional style rather then the normal 3dcgi.


I was looking in youtube if someone made an anime opening of Amphibia(I know sacrilege lol), and I found 3, and although the first video I watched was great it had too many spoilers. This one on the other hand is just perfect, it makes me feel really nostalgic.


>Amphibia(I know sacrilege lol)
How is it compared to Craig of the Creek?

I dropped it half the way. Dunno, i've seen too many of this cutie nature vs bad humans shit, predictable.
And jesus fuck this every time:
>Oh father give me a minute and i'll explain every~
>eat your heart out Spider-verse
nah, that one was more appealing to the eye


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3D animation for an ad for Lunar New Year of the Metal Ox. Be bullish!


First ep impression of the dragon prince is pretty negative.
I fucking hate when CGI uses limited inconsistent 12 frames a second animation. It makes my eyes hurt and there isn't budgetary reasons to do it.
You can tell it really wants to be anime but isn't too.
And it is already off to a anti-human pro-nature hippy dippy bullshit in even the opening.

Saving graces is most of the characters are kind of likable so far and their interactions are stock but serviceable.
First season only has 9 ep so I will at least watch it that far before giving my final judgment but I am not impressed with what I have seen in the first ep. Maybe it gets better but I am not holding my breath.


¿What happened to Thurop Van Orman after CN cancelled Flapjack? That show was the weirdest thing Cartoon Network ever had.


Why do you keep doing

Stop it.


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W-what if she never gets back home?


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Finished all that has been released so far.

I can say with all honisty that it worse then Steaven Universe.

The only saving grace and the only reason I was able to make it through it is it was well paced as there was always a feeling of progress in the story due to the cast always needing to run off somewhere in a hurry.

Just about everything else has issues and it is SJW in really stupid ways.
Actually in general it is clear that most people involved didn't know what the fuck they were doing.
Story has issues, animation hurts my eyes, dialog is cringy, every time they try to have a message/moral/lesson/point they stumble over themselves and fuck it up completely.
and the list just goes on.

I give it a 2 out of 5.
It's watchable but is annoying in it's incompetents.
All that said, I am invested now so I will watch season 4 when it comes out.
I have a bad habit of sticking with shitty show just because I want to see how badly they fuck up the end.


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Amphibia suprises me more and more. The backstory for Maddie, in the Maddie and Marcy chapter was perfectly done, and the dark humour, and references to horror movies was the ice on the cake.


Does anybody here have a thing for obscure animation? Things like old stop motion shorts and soviet animation. It’s like watching cartoons from another universe. I think there’s 2 stop motion shorts of the hobbit . The first one is J. R. R. Tolkien’s The Hobbit (1966) and the other one is called Skazochnoe puteshestvie mistera Bilbo Begginsa, Khobbita. Try with “Russian Hobbit”


Maddie, maddie, maddie!


I just read a news report on RT about Disney rejecting scripts because they are not enough inclusive, even if the scripts are great. I don’t know is this is true, but it won’t surprise me. I wonder if CN, nickelodeon, Netflix and the other streaming platforms do the same. Political correctness is gonna kill everything, from cartoons to music, and even history and literature. Someday some people would say Shakespeare, Cervantes and almost any other writer is a white supremacist because their works are not inclusive.


Other major networks (unrelated to cartoons) have been doing similar shit for years.
Like rejecting shows that are "too male focused" so threw away a sure money maker that was the show Sylvester Stallone and Doth Lundgren were pitching around like a couple years ago for that reason.
I think it will effect cartoons a little less because it is easier to superficially change characters during the pitch/writing phase unless it's based on some source material.

>wah, there aren't enough coloreds

fuck it, they are all anthro monkeys now, you happy.
>wah, that's racist
No, everybody is a monkey in the show now. It's equal monkey with no human races like planet of the apes or something.
>Are you mansplaining my own feelings?
>I feel it's racist so it is and I don't have to explain myself
I can't mansplain because I identify as a masculine presenting trans succubus.
>oh no, sorry for misgendering you
>Such a brave succubus, I guess we can give you a shot

Or something along those lines.

I just want more action shows with good animation regardless of the politics of the people or companies involved, but SJW types tend to dislike such shows because they appeal to boys, who they hate and require talent which they don't have.


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I always liked the cartoons or comics were the main character travels to another world, but the only thing I don’t like about amphibia is how the world, at least the town where the characters live, is a little bit generic. The show should be more exotic, like the books of Jack Vance or like Morrowind. To Anne, everything should be new for her; she should be amazed just for being in another world. The same goes for The Owl House. Those worlds don’t need talent shows, food criticism, prom nights or their own version of instagram.


Those shows always inexorably include that shit because we need something that the norms and succubi can understand.


Not when they have good world builders/writers.
There are more then a few shows where the other world is actually otherworldly and doesn't have whatever is hip with the age demo inorganically shoved in.


Great news.
The Venture Bros., Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Metalocalypse are all getting new movies that pick things up where they left off.
I am especially hyped about the Venture Bros movie because it ended on such a cliffhanger.
Also a new Metalocalypse movie means a new Dethklok album which I will probably enjoy quite a bit.


WHy ATHF ever got axed is beyond me especially wit how the show matured over time I mean just look at the last few seasons it was amazing
I hope the movie is not just a shitpost like the first movie was it was pure trash I could not enjoy since leaving my very early teens


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3D animation is getting better..
Right, Raya?


actually really good

i was thinking this would be a good reference tool for artists, something that lets you pose the face with expressions like that. im sure it already exists though


I mean it is literally a in house reference used when you have several teams working on a project.
Something similar to additional references included with character bibles.
Base expressions that the animators and riggers can reference while keeping things on model, which Disney pays strict adherence to the vast majority of the time.

The process of animation is almost as fascinating as the end work. At least to me.


Been watching short films all morning and found this really polished one made as a graduation project from National Taiwan University of Arts.

It's pretty cute and shows the magic visual story telling in a way that only animation can do justice to.


very nice


Thanks for sharing this.


I read in Wikipedia about a sequel of Labyrinth who is going to be made by Marvel Studios. I wonder if they will use puppets or if Brian Froud is going to do the designs, and who is gonna write it. I really hope Trevor Jones will do the ost again. Jareth will not be the same without David Bowie, is really a shame he died without acting the character again. Neil Gaiman in The View from the Cheap Seats says, there’s a version of Labyrinth of 3 hours of length, I wonder if the Jim Henson Company will release that version for the 40 anniversary in 2026.


This is the one Netflix sequel/reboot that actually looks really cool. It’s a shame they aren’t using the original voice actors but they are probably too old/ dead anyway.


I wouldnt expect too much from it, I watched their castlevania series and it started out ok, following the real events, but quickly went out the window. They basically rushed through the entire main story of castlevania 3 so that they could start doing OC shit, which was unsurprisingly, shit. They even fucked up the Bloody Tears cover in the battle with dracula and made it feel so weak and dramatic when the original was deliberately powerful and energetic. They portrayed dracula as some washed up fool when in reality it should have been like Jojo vs Dio tier levels of epic. I can't forgive netflix for fucking up so bad.


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If you want more action cartoons, give it a try to the ones in pics related. I highly recommend the Spawn cartoon of HBO, is the only Adult cartoon that deserves the name. I think is funny that Summer camp island is now in a channel obsess with violence, treason and incest like HBO, and a shame I can’t watch it anymore.


I strongly suspect they will bait and switch.
Starting off playing to the fans to get merch sells going then halfway through go full progressive.

Not that I even care. I was into he-man when I was 4 and 5 but by the time I was 8 I lost interest in anything to do with he-man. Had too much dead air and the world never felt all that interesting. It wasn't a place I could imagine adventuring in. So once I got over
>Cool sword makes guy strong when catchphrase is said
I was over the whole franchise.

Maybe if they really do something special with the world building and fix the pacing problems that the series has always had then I might get invested. A pretty art style isn't enough to convince me that it won't be lame.


At least from the trailer it looks they’re gonna focus on the fight scenes, which I think could be a good direction considering the original’s combat was basically he-man transforms and smacks skeleton upside the head and that’s it. Though it was pretty hilarious seeing them try and make orko of all characters look cool.


>Summer Camp Island
It's peak globohomo. It belonged alongside violence, treason, and incest as soon as it casually presented the concept of someone having two gay fathers as so normal that nobody even questioned it. Good riddance.


As someone with two gay fathers, thank you. This shit is cruel and deserves eradication.

Sageru for off topic though.


Can you not be a /pol/tard here.



Have some…
Sturgill Simpson Presents Sound & Fury | Clip: Ultra-Violent Anime Madness | Netflix Anime

Same animation studio as Castlevania?


>Thread to discuss and post literally anything animation related except anime
>Post anime



That animation wasn't made by the Japanese and is therefor not anime, no matter what the dykes at Netflix call it.


Season 3 Show Open
The adventure is far from over…
In fact, it is only just beginning.


Nice, still have to watch season 2.


It is literally made by Japanese people in Japan by a Japanese production company.
Why are you lying?


Finished S2

Could be interesting, but I can already see (politics thread) finding its way in to it somewhere. Too many humans of color in that intro.


How many cartoons based on fairy tales exist? I only Know the Storyteller and a French cartoon called tales of Broca Street. I think there was a show called Fairy Tale Theater, and other based on one and one thousand nights but, it only counts as a cartoon if they use puppets.


I don’t know why some people think of stop motion as scary. My sister used to fear an Aardman short about a little succubus whose aunt dies and she goes to hell trying to rescue her. The only scary cartoon I remember was the courage chapter about the spirit of the moon.


>How many cartoons based on fairy tales exist?
What makes you think anyone could even know that and give a real answer? There isn't a fully complete listing of every cartoon ever created and the most comprehensive ones aren't categorized by if something is based on a fairy tell or not, meaning that someone would ether have to do so manually or create a sorting program to do it.

What I am saying is no one actually knows and that is quite the big ask.


content anonmage here (heh just made it up).
im going to list some cartoons i watch in no specific order.
>Dr Katz
>Undergrads (the tech character is apex wizard).
>The Critic
>Aeon Flux
>Mission Hill
>The Oblongs
>Venture Bros
>Moral Orel
>Mary Shelleys FrankenHole
based knd enjoyer
ill add Ahhh Real Monsters thanks for the reminder
>Xavier Renegade
i never got into it
>Venture Bros Movie
Holy Fuck Yes!


i'm a hamburger, but even i hate most americans because they want to inject politics into FUCKING EVERYTHING.

i want to get back into watching cartoons again, but most "modern" ones are so full of politics that if i hear some blue haired faggot whine about "inclusivity" or "diversity" one more fucking time then i'm gonna be fedposting the local dnc hq

great fucking show. my brother and i autistically parrot XRA at each other to this day.


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>Xavier Renegade
>i never got into it
I remember enjoying some of the episodes on late night [as], but then it got a pretentious "ironic fandom", similar to 12 Oz. PFFR's current cartoon, The Shivering Truth, is pretty cool though. Real stop motion that isn't stylized CG is really rare these days, and the fact that it's experimental claymation makes me appreciate the sentiment even more. ShadowMachine's stuff is usually pretty crappy looking, aside from season 2-3 of Moral Orel & Frankenhole, but TST is really well made.


every friday night i tell my sister how its actually taco tuesday


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hahahaha i tell my friends that gangbanging is all about passion, and they look at me funny


The only stop motion animation I used to fear when I was a kid, it was this awful music video from a Spanish one hit band.


Victor and Valentino is worth watching? Compared with El Tigre, I think is full of wasted potential. Manny and Frida were two little motherfuckers who always make plans to steal or destroying things. Miracle city was a cartoon version of the Mexico DF, a hell of a town for people of the U.S and even for his own citizens. In Victor and Valentino almost everything is so polite and mild.


I haven’t watched tv in about 5 years but my PC broke this weekend and I’m trapped in a hotel, so I decided to watch some. And holy shit, all the modern cartoons that are airing are the same as victor and vinny, that is to say boring with incredibly wimpy and milquetoast characters. So no, it’s not worth it, and neither is anything airing.


How good is the prequel of Dark Crystal? I discovered the show thanks to a video dedicated to Brian Froud. I think it was canceled because of how expensive was doing just one episode; maybe cartoons are cheaper than puppets.


Puppets aren't cartoons or animation.
Ask the thread about tv shows.


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Wow, I haven't listened that song in years. I always found that video pretty cool, but I can see why some kids could find it scary back then.
By the way, here are a few cool "creepy" stop-motion movies:
>The Secret Adventures of Tom Thumb
>One Night in One City
>Pied Piper


Those cartoons produced by Steven Spielberg (Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain and Freakazoid) are genuinely good or is just nostalgia? Speaking of that, are their reboots really good or the writers are using the same felling?


Haven't got around to watching the reboots but if you don't mind the dated references they are really good. It isn't just nostalgia.


Most are pretty good, but they aren’t as universally classic as say, the old looney toons.


Not even mad.
Just confused and mildly annoyed.
They don't have genitalia and don't sexually reproduce, don't have romantic relationships, and don't form family units.
How the fuck does it make any sense to make a gay transformer?
These people have mental problems and Netflix is cancer.


It's netflix so what can you expect? Not that I'm completely clean of pairing robots together in my head fanfics, but actually putting it in to a show? lmao


>Puppets aren't cartoons or animation.
Yes they are. Puppets are inanimate objects that, when moved, create an illusion of life. In other words, they are animated.
It was good, but it will leave a void in your soul when finished. Some people fill that void with The Barbarian and the Troll, I know I did. It's a comedy and some of the humor is "cheesy", but it's campy fun. It's the one modern Nickelodeon original I can think of that doesn't appeal exclusively to kids with ADHD


>They don't have genitalia and don't sexually reproduce, don't have romantic relationships
They're just appealing to the franchise's main demographic


Fuck all the way off.


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Had a interesting plot and premise, even ok writing overall. The story is good.
The main problem is the execution. It looks really bad. The animation is amateurish and stilted, the models are mediocre and the texturing is offensive in how bad it is. The lighting is simplistic, just every visual aspect is mediocre or worse.
Ashamed because the voice work of most of the characters makes it almost tolerable. Even for a low budget small studio project this poor level of execution isn't really acceptable.

In fact I would say that the overall whole thing is interesting ideas executed poorly. Oh, and all of the spliced creatures including the boy are annoying and ugly. Just saying.

Overall I give it a 2 out of 5.


I will not. Give puppets a chance, wiz.


Why the fuck do you keep shitting up the thread with things that aren't cartoons?
If it isn't a cartoon it doesn't belong in the cartoon thread.
Fuck off.
Dealt with the same bullshit with some retard posting anime in the thread.
It doesn't belong in this thread.
You know full well it doesn't belong in this thread.
Get a life and stop.


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Legend of Deification also know as Jiang Ziya

The writing was a bit weak but the studios involved pulled out all the stops to make it one of the most visually stunning animated features I have seen from 2020.
It really is a treat to behold. Just wish the story and concept was a bit better fleshed out.
It is refreshing to see something recent out of China that isn't blatantly propaganda and instead stand on their own as a work of art and expression.

I recommend it if you want to look at something pretty and/or have some background knowledge in Chinese folklore.


Tried watching Xico's Journey
Oh god is it a stinker. Cheap, ugly, stupid, and paced poorly to be boring.
Worst yet it is even more in your face with it's dumb eco/political message then FernGully. Very obnoxious.
You can probably also tell it's one of those thing made for children by someone who bearly interacts with children kind of thing from the writing and overall structure.
Just dreadful in every regard.
1 out of 5. Don't waste your time.


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It somehow wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
Still bad.
Still a 1 out of 5
but I have seen worse and it isn't boring so that is something. Plus it's short so it is over before it gets too annoying. Seen reviews saying it is a dumpster fire, can confirm is indeed a dumpster fire.


I found this Don Quixote cartoon made in Spain. The animation is really bad and the cartoon only adapts chapters from the first’s part, but, I think it was a nice attempt to produce a cartoon based in one of the classics of literature, because no network or streaming service in these times would even think in producing something that has real culture in it. Is there any cartoon or animated short that do the same with Shakespeare or Goethe?


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Be careful what you wish for.


I had skimmed over a Family Guy episode called "Brian's Play", and honestly, a bunch of missed opportunities.

Brian makes a play, it actually goes well so Stewie makes a play in a day, Brian reads it, gets real jealous, tells Stewie the play's bad and eventually tries to destroy it. Stewie finds out, tells him off spectacularly. In another rendition of Brian's play (where everything is still going well), Stewie rubs his success in Brian's face by saying he's going to Hollywood. They both go, some playwrights or something insult Brian's play without knowing he was the playwright, Stewie gives up on his play to make Brian feel bad, end.

So many missed lessons here and so many missed character growth opportunities. I feel like Brain was kind of an idiot lying to Stewie and trying to destroy the play but Stewie rubbing it in made him a dick. Him giving up on the play doesn't make him any less talented or a bad friend.

So many different lessons like how Brian's play was actually a huge success compared to his book, "Faster than the Speed of Love" ever was. No readers vs a huge crowd of people. A huge improvement and that affection he said he wanted. Brian's play was also praised very highly by critics. Him getting jealous is totally reasonable if not for Stewie being a genius already. As for those people who insulted his play, just ignore them. The lesson could be to focus on improvements instead of what you want to be in the future. So sad he let other people get in the way of his dream. By the way, obviously he was letting the reviews get to his head. Still, it's just another opportunity to tone down Brian's crappy personality traits and develop him as a better writer and person. In the end, it was one development and a bunch of take downs on his character. I wish he could have accepted his dream coming true and finally coming to peace with his writing or something. He's been a drunkard because of his "inability" to write for a while.


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Any y'all like Infinity Train? I thought it was pretty cool and interesting. Especially first season, since the workings of the train were still pretty mysterious. While the series did focus on morals, it never got preachy. I also really liked that each season was so much different than the others. It kept things fresh. On the other hand, some episodes were pretty cringey. I guess what drew me in most was the memorable setting and characters. What did y'all think?


Why. It’s not only Netflix, is every network now. Why every cartoon needs to has his own gay or dike character? Those people exist, but it seems forced that almost every show has its own gay couple. The most forced one I know is Luz and Amity from the owl house. Amity develops a crush on Luz only in a few episodes, even if she hated her before. Also, I can´t stop noticing Amity dyes his hair just the same color Dana Terrace used to dye his own hair. Maybe is a coincidence.
I don’t care if a character is gay; the thing I can’t understand is this

>X character develops a crush on another character of the same Gender

>Y character also has a crush on the X character. Even if he/she used to have a crush for a character of the opposite sex.

>Now they are a couple.

The only thing I know where one of the characters shows anger or disgust for being kissed by a character of his same sex is the last issue of Miracleman written by Neil Gaiman. I know this thread is for cartoons, but this was the only example I know


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The Willoughbys was alright.
Probably the silliest thing I have seen in months. Just a fun movie. Story is a bit weak and it's all over the place but it is very oddly satisfying by the end.

The visual style is pretty intresting too.
Not the greatest thing ever or some sort of instant classic but it is just a fun silly movie with a good spirit and a slightly dark edge.
Would highly recommend to actual children. As for adult animation fans, it's not bad but I think enjoyment strongly depends on mood.
I liked it, but I was in the mood for what it was.


I hear it's good but still haven't got around to watching it.
I also heard it got canceled, so that means while it was popular with adult/older animation fans actually children probably weren't wild about it and it underpreformed in the numbers or in merch sells. Shame since streaming in theory should open the way to shows with a older audience should still be able to find their place and get funded.

Maybe tech will keep progressing so that it will get even cheaper and easier for small teams to make quality animation on really small budgets.


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Watched the animated adaptation of Mimi and the Mountain Dragon that the BBC came out with a few years ago.

It was interesting that rather then sound effects they instead made uses of a full orchestra for everything but human voices.
It was around 25 minutes so long enough to tell the full story without sticking around to the point of being boring. The art is a interesting take, as it isn't quite like the story book, it's more doing it's own thing, but it still looks nice and the animation is alright for what it is. Nothing masterful but fluid and gets the job done.
Overall I think it is a good animated adaptation. I recommenced giving it a watch if you got a half hour to kill. It at the very least sounds nice and is pretty relaxing due to the music focus.


I hate this annoying trend of pretending this dumb doodles are somehow transformed something "serious" and add "lore" and "psychological" bullshit, it is an embarrassment, in the end is just ugly stick drawings for fat american children.


good bye alaskan crab
Enjoy your bucket alone


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Waltz with Bashir

I am shocked I never heard of this movie before now.
Was a mild pain to find, and the subtitled version sucks ass because the subs are timed wrong (at least in the ones I could find) but the dub is serviceable.

Anyway, the way I would describe the movie is mature. Not in the way it is normally used when referring to media, but as in the way it handles such difficult and fucked up subject matter in a way that is personal, accurate, and yet in a way somehow respectful and with just enough restraint to prevent any portion of it from being tasteless. Coupled with the tone and thematic device of memories and stories of the past, just gives it the feel of mature men recollections of some of the worst times of their lives. Men with years and whole other lives to reflect on those events and gain perspective.

It's one of those good movies that make you feel like shit. I like it, I respect as a work of art, but I probably wont watch it again.


Finally got around to watching Fire and Ice by Ralph Bakshi.
Holy shit does it look great. While the plot is a bit thin everything else makes up for it. It is also the best use of rotoscoping I have ever seen, and proof that it can work if you have a talented team that knows what the hell they are doing, even if some of the action felt "floaty" at times.
Also Teegra is painfully hot, even blowing most anime succubi out of the water. Bonk me with the horny stick all you want but "god damn she fine" is all I got to say on the subject.

Anyway it is a great looking film and overall a good action/adventure/fantasy film all be it a bit on the simple side.
I highly recommend it.


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Forgot the poster picture.


Will be the Calarts style still a thing in the 2020s? I wonder what will be the style of this decade. Or maybe the bean and worm face will be here forever?


Let me ask you this, can you even name a show currently airing in that style?


>Also Teegra is painfully hot, even blowing most anime succubi out of the water. Bonk me with the horny stick all you want but "god damn she fine" is all I got to say on the subject.
my brother

sword and sorcery shit from the 80s will always be awesome to me


Amphibia, Big City Greens, We bare bears, Centaur world, Craig of the Creek, etc.


How is We bare bears, Centaur world,Craig of the Creek, Big City Greens, or Amphibia calarts exactly?
The only thing visually similar about them is related to color use, which may have more to do with the tools used then style.
And as far as I can tell most/all the people involved in the production of those shows didn't actually go to California Institute of the Arts, nor is the typical "calarts style" employed. It would be great if you could actually define exactly what you mean by "calarts".


If you can't or won't see it then there's nothing I can do.


If you can't or won't explain yourself or even the basic definition or description of the thing you take issue with then a discussion on the topic is impossible.

Define your terms and explain yourself.


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I can.

Bean mouth, thin uniform lines, little to no shading, simplistic geometric shapes, mere circles for heads and for eyes, stuck in 3/4th view, disregard for anatomy and perspective.


Would you describe We bare bears, Centaur world,Craig of the Creek, Big City Greens, or Amphibia as fitting this description?

Or any other currently airing show for that matter?

And does it even really matter when even movies like Iron Giant are/were called Calarts as a putdown.
I just seems to me to be a useless term for whatever trend in American animation someone personally doesn't like. So the meaning changes as taste and trends change, but it's always a generic insult and it rarely has much to do with California Institute of the Arts in any way.


Why are you so hung up on cal arts? It's just a term for the style at this point, no one cares about the shitty art school.


You are the one that brought the topic up and wanted to talk about it.
What the hell do you mean why am I hung up on it?
Why are you so hung up on it?
What the fuck?


I mean the word. You're here arguing semantics when there is a clear style presented that you ignore.


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>there is a clear style presented that you ignore.
There isn't at all
How do any of these look even remotely the same?
All are called calarts and none of them are stylistically similar enough to make whatever the fuck you can't seem to explain obvious.
The term is pointless and you don't know what you are talking about. You just expect people to somehow just know what your personal definition of a non-word is and act like it has ever had descriptive qualities that anyone has ever agreed on.
And for what reason?

Even if calarts had a coherent and agreed upon meaning, which it doesn't, it doesn't seem to mean much if things can vary so wildly in apparent and it isn't a indication of quality, labor, or talent on the part of the creators.

So in the end you can functionally swap out the word calarts and change the meaning of >>59712
>Will stuff I don't like but can't explain why still be a thing in this decade? I wonder if stuff I don't like will be the style of this decade. Or maybe ways of doing a face I don't like will be here forever?
And the same amount of information was conveyed.


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I want to know where you ever saw anyone accuse iron giant of being calarts shit.


That Retard who made Ren & Stimpy used to call the faux-disney look as "Calarts".

When I say Calarts I just meand "the modern simplistic, geometric, flat style western Animation has had since the late 90's"


Calarts isn't actually a specific style or a useful descriptor.


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>simplistic, geometric, flat style western Animation has had since the late 90's
It sounds like you are describing the old cartoon cartoon shows from CN, which I almost never hear described as calarts.


Whenever i see calarts mentioned it is in reference to the art style of specifically 1. Adventure time or 2. Steven universe. This guy >>59744 gave a good definition and even a meme that illustrates the point and for some reason we are still discusses what it is.


And to what end?
What is even the point anyway?



Fuck frederator.


Regardless the vast majority of the info presented is legit.



Camel by Camel


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Testing 2


Please stop.
This thread isn't for this.


Funny, it's today that I've woken up with that tune stuck in my head.
So is there the original animation (i.e. the porn 'toon itself) somewhere on the net? I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I imagine it would barely have any value as fap material for me, but should be curious due to its viral/meme effect at least.


I’m pretty sure it up on e621


Thanks, will watch it. The trailer reminded me of White Snake, another Chinese feature-length animation. It was also okay in general and better visually, guess I can recommend it.

Honestly, I salute China seemingly beginning to excel at animated filmmaking recently. This is good for the fans in itself, but since the suicidal West wants to turn its film industry into yet another dumpster fire, it's 'beggars can't be choosers' for people.


I really do need to get around to watching White Snake. It looks good and it's been on my to watch list for years.


Artist is Zone.


Do they still dump most of their stuff on newgrounds or have they finally moved on from there?


I thought it was minus8.


i like the porn one better
even the music was better



Its been bugging me how the OP for a thread specifically for "animation related stuff from places that aren't Japan." 2/3 images in it are from Japan.


Japanese animation has been quite influential for decades, now.


It was posted due to the content and point because it's talking about animation as a whole as a medium of expression.


Post non-nippon animation then.


Seems there's another "animation strike" happening in America. Let me make this clear; if you don't know how to physically draw action scenes, in full motion, you don't deserve your cushy Hollywood animation gig. They act like they deserve anything more than what they get for doodling storyboards, something completely useless in the long run when everything is puppet rigged by koreans. Inhouse animators broke their wrists to make art. These cunts act like they're too good for making shitty newgrounds animations, which is what their skill level equates to.


quit trying to flame.


One guy did this?



Oh look, more jap shit where it doesn't belong.
There are dozens of other more appropriate threads to post this yet you choose the one where it's off topic.


i thought a white guy made it though


>There are dozens of other more appropriate threads to post this yet you choose the one where it's off topic.
Not having this derail argument again.
Fuck off troll.


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Watched Smiling Friends Season 1

It was alright, made me smile. Stuff like people exploding and random acts of things being smashed make me laugh and that's a lot of what got me. There's not really any clever humour. It's moreso observational and absurdist comedy, but about nothing in particular. You can tell the creators were just having a lot of fun with it. A lot of the characters are voiced by random internet and video game hasbeens but no real obnoxious personalities like Twitch stars.

I watched it because I kept seeing clips posted online that were kinda funny on their own but turns out those clips make up almost the entire season because it's only 7 episodes at 11 minutes each.


It's interesting to see the culmination of these ex-Newgrounds guys' careers. They've been trying to break into the industry professionally for about a decade, now.


These newgrounds and youtubers are funnier and more clever than hollywood writers.


Maybe, but they suck at networking, logistics, and organizing large teams so it's rare they get far.

Animation is usually a large group effort once you get to the point of producing tv or feature length projects.
There are rare exceptions but most of those exceptions didn't come from newgrounds.
The main problem is the solo/small team workflow and tight community that causes the best success in the newgrounds and youtube short form content format don't translate to the large group networking, organization, and delegation skills necessary to make it in the mainstream. So it's rare for them to breakthrough unless they basically remake themselves to fit the shitty hollywood scene. Often losing the creative and unique things that made them stand out in the first place in the process.


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The Spine of Night

Seen the box cover at the store and that it was a adult animated film I had never heard of so once I got home I gave it a go. Went in totally blind and didn't know what to expect.

It was pretty different from just about anything that came out in the last few years so it's got that going for it. But personally I wasn't really a fan. The writing, the performances, and most of all the execution of the animation style were all not to the quality level I expect from a feature length movie.

Still, it being quite different from everything else that came out in a long while was refreshing, and I was never bored throughout the whole runtime.


Going far in to the past can be quite fun.


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I was never into Transformers, not even the animes, but remember really liking Beast Wars when it came out. Re-watched it now. The first season was very disappointing, all the characters and their actions were excessively dumb, and it didn't even had a point, every episode the Maximals would do something dumb for no actual reason and be outdumbed by the Predacons, just to lead to five minutes of them shooting around each other, not that it would make any difference because when they landed a hit it was of no consequence. I know it's supposed to be just a pretext to sell toys, but that's not an excuse. But then came season 2 and it was absolutely amazing, great overarching plot, character development, several memorable moments, I'm glad I didn't drop. Season 3 dumbed down back, I don't know why they didn't keep the tone.

The Maximals were very uni-dimensional, either boring or annoying. Cheetor and Rattrap were too annoying, and I hated Silverbolt so fucking much. The "nonono if you kill bad guy then you bad guy" is stupid and got old fast. The Predacons were much deeper and better worked, even the ones that changed side. My favorite character was Dinobot, and Waspinator was legitimately funny. The power scale doesn't make sense either, one episode the character gets a new form and defeats everyone at the same time, then next episode he just gets inactive after a single shot. And some things were overdone like "shot from the back while being inattentive on the battlefield" and "crushed by a boulder that was behind". I will still try Beast Machines though, never had the chance to watch any of it when younger.


The oscars are worthless garbage, especially when it comes to animation.


I thought it was an ok show thats been extremely overhyped by people who have a parasocial relationship with the people who made it. I'm glad these guys are getting their shot rather than some dime a dozen LGBQT animation twitter psycho but the cult of personality shit around it is so obnoxious and i don't think the show is good enough to overshadow it. They're obviously still finding their feet so maybe season 2 will be better.


Do you think Shrek would have gotten over his loneliness in time to become a truwiz if Farquad didn't interrupt his life? Or perhaps was he too broken to not be a wiz at all? After all, he did allow himself to have romantic feelings for Fiona. I don't know if he could be trusted even if Shrek 1 never happened.


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I don't know if it was the oscars or not, but I remember there was a year where some voters didn't know any of the animated nominees, called Song of the Sea "Chinese"(It's Irish), and just gave their votes to the Disney movie because it was the only one they knew, even if they didn't see it.


A general distaste for the Walt Disney Company and its practices had solidify Nickelodeon's motivation to limit size and avoid feeling "corporate".
All of this was thrown out the window after Spongebob premiered.


I've watched all of Helluva Boss, and, I watched Hazbin Hotel. For being a gay cartoon with equally gay characters the animation is high quality and its overall very enjoyable


pozzed trash looks like shit, you are talking out your ass.



Finally got around to giving Hilda a chance.

3 episodes in so far and my first impressions are it a little slower and more relaxed in it's story telling then I would prefer but the characters are endearing and world is very interesting.
I am eager to see more. I just hope that them moving to the city doesn't begin dog-whistling "the message" or have things generally go to shit.
What got me interested is the otherworldly shenanigans. If it becomes another Steven universe I am fucking out.


Even if i despise the nihilism of rick and morty,and the show too,i cant stop liking this claymation shorts


I just found this stop motion movie based on Midsummer Night's Dream.


What happened to Zone after that? Hes still with the skulgirls dev team


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I watched The Adventures of Prince Achmed a few days ago. It's really cool movie.


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Here's the final battle between the African Sorcerer and the Witch of the Flaming.


Thats remind of a lovecraft animation i saw years ago


found this fan stop motion animator channel.


>HBO Max has revealed the first look at its upcoming Clone High revival. The animated series is set to premiere this spring, with new episodes airing weekly.


age-restricted… does the teaser look as bad as the thumbnail suggests


It's bad.
old show with new characters
(the new characters are all INTERNATIONAL and they're the smart voices of reason)

new jokes
(about iPhones and Instagrams)

White man


The owl house is already over. This is the last episode



Thank God that woke garbage they tried to pass as anime is over only the frog one is worse.


will hear no hateful talk about comfy frog show!!


First season frog show comfy.
Second season frog show adventurous.
Third season frog show, much Californian man make stupid face. Now not frog show, but Californian show.


im watching samurai rabbit: the usagi chronicles

the plot is fucking shit (young wabbit guy wants to become strong and fight yokai) but its very visually pleasing to me.


which cartoons are the closest to anime. i need stairs to even reach the slippery slope of cartoons


Avatar The Last Airbender, Teen Titans, Samurai Jack, Ben 10, Batman The Animated Series


damn. i already watched those growing up. ill have to check some sort of cartoon database and just search for specific tags that would interest me i guess


It looked like ass since episode 1, "Calarts and mud" the series.
Samurai Jack is overrated as fuck, how is that shit even remotely related to Anime visually? the mc looks like the scientific from the power puff succubi.


it does have big eyes, and the unique, stylistic, experimental art direction and animation is more commonly seen in anime than in cartoons, it is also heavily inspired by Kurosawa which is something that applies to many anime as well, there are plenty of similarities so it's a fitting recommendation for someone who is mainly into anime and looking to broaden his horizons, it's a show about a wandering samurai for
fucks sake


Ass superhero list from someone who never seen a carton in his life
Totally Spies, Martin Mystery, Archie's Weird Mysteries, Kappa Mikey, Hihi Puffy-Amiyumi


learn how to speak english


this isn't the Language Learning thread. learn how to a catalog


I started watching Sonic Prime. I swear to god, they're trying their hardest to make Rouge the Bat the cutest character in the series. Compared to Amy, she's designed to be way more feminine and cute. Out of the three versions of her, it's been a home run each time. Amy's cute as well, but it's obvious they're going in a different "art" direction for her character. I'm was never really attracted to her in the games. I'm just pointing out that they're trying extra hard in this show. It's working.


Any wizzies tried animating before? I've been messing around, plan on releasing a part everyday. A bit of a delay with part 3 though since the program crashed losing progress.

Let me know what you think….


I used to do stop motion animation when I was a kid, but haven't had the space to build a stage in my adulthood.
Now I am a full time RVer so it's pretty out of the question.

If I was to try and take up animating again I would have to do it digitally.


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Justice league gods and monsters

Was pretty good for a elswere story, even if it felt like they changed things just to change them.
Though it makes me crave the orginals just behaving like themselves.
So might watch another more mainline justice league movie later. There are so many I haven't gotten around to yet so I have a lot to choose from.


Yeah Bruce Timm did too much weird stuff, using the same DCAU designs, when everyone just wanted more DCAU. Now Kevin Conroy is dead.

Also the opening scene was a weird scifi version of rape


amazing digital circus is cool I enjoyed the pilot. I love hand drawn animation too and stop motion


Binged watched the first season of Helluva Boss.
I didn't expect to like it but I do.
Still not sure if it's legitimately good or if I just have really shit taste and a soft spot for edgy bullshit but I had a good time watching it.
I guess I should give Hasbin hotel a shot too, even though I didn't enjoy the pilot anywhere near as much as I did for Helluva Boss, but maybe the actual show is decent. Regardless I have season to left to binge so I can use that to rince the bad taste if I dislike HH.

It's funny how edgy you can be on youtube when you are popular and funded outside of google ads.


I'm not that into it but i can appreciate how well made it is.


watching Fairly Oddparents best cartoon I watched as a kid


I just started watching this again and love it but it was weird in one episode they threw in a joke about the writer of the comic Crimson chin is a "40 year old who lives with his mom" I'll still watch it but it's disappointing normalfags felt the need to deride hikkis/basement dwellers


I thought of it as a joke at the expense of how unappreciated creatives in the comic industry is.
Most work for poverty wages. The few that aren't broke make the bulk of their money outside the traditional comic industry.


you seem to have missed out the joke. Following Timmy's response to the actual Crimson Chin, the latter asks if he despite living with his mom the writer made a lot of money, and he is met again with the same answer, "he lives with his mom" it's obvious why this is funny.


Any decent new(ish) toons out?
I feel like I am getting farther and farther out of the loop of whats going on as far as modern animation because Ii don't watch tv.


basically all the cartoons I watched while I was a child were shit. I don't even know what I would rate the highest. The first 3 seasons of spongebob were really the only thing that was actually good. That and futurama, but I didn't watch futurama until I was older. Fairly odd parents was probably one of the less shitty ones


I was more of a cartoon network and normal network tv kid for the most part so I didn't get that deep into most Nick shows.

That said fairly odd parents was ok to me, though like most really overly long running shows a lot of the later ep were pretty hit or miss.
Of Butch's work I much preferred Danny Phantom as I loved action focused shows.


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Finished Hazbin Hotel.
Was better than I was expecting from the pilot. Didn't like it as much as Helluva Boss, mostly because I liked most of the characters less (especially angle dust who is just fucking gross), and most of the songs aren't great, but overall it's a decent show imo and I look forward to them eventually making a second season.
I like the lore and mystery being built as it goes along. And the answers to set up mysteries are decent and don't feel cheap.

I will keep a eye out for the next release of stuff related to this project.


Angel dust has the same problem as blitzo, where their entire humor is just being sexual/swearing and they try really hard to have these "deep" moments that don't feel deserved or matching the tone of their character.

I like the plot too, but it seems like they are leading us on without telling us any of the rules of the universe.


I'll second this. It's okay for these characters to have depth and whatnot, but Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are at their best when they don't get all sappy/sentimental.


It's probably why my favorite character from HH is Niffty.
Just a uncomplicated funny gremlin used for gags. I actually hope they don't try to "add depth" to her character because they are kinda bad at it.


I am really enjoying Xian Ni (renegade immortal) for some reason that is somewhat hard for me to explain. It's kind of hard to follow because of shitty story telling and it doesn't really have any strong characters, but I love it. I guess I am a sucker for loner characters who are OP. It has really cool visuals. Next on my list of anticipated weekly airing shows are probably Fanren Xiu Xian Chuan, Tunshi Xingkong, and Doupo Cangqiong. After that one tier down are Nitian Xie Shen (2023), Shen Yin Wangzuo, and Da Zhu Zai Nian Fan.


While I have been impressed with some Chinese animated films and shorts I personally have been disappointed in every series/show I have given a chance.


Which shows did you watch?


>Romance of the Three Kingdoms (2009 animation)
It was pretty boring, the animation had issues, and I ended up dropping it before reaching the end.

>Wanderings of San Mao/Story of San Mao's Vagrant Life

It was just below average to me and I didn't find most of the humor all that funny. It's also long as fuck so I also dropped it.

>Black Cat Detective

Watched it to completion but it just was of low quality and not all that interesting.

>The Adventures of Little Carp

Oddly enough had a dub vhs tape with a few ep of it. Fell like it was for babies so wasn't interested.

There are probably others I am not remembering.


Well no wonder you didn't like them if they were all that old. Chinese animation has really come a long way since then. You should give some modern shows a shot. I watch almost exclusively 3D CGI shows because I prefer them to 2D as it is more immersive, particularly the sets which are far more realistic looking than the people most of the time. It takes some getting used to but can be worth it. If you want to stick with 2D there are still some decent quality shows. For example, Biao Ren: Blades of the Guardian. That was very nicely animated and had some very compelling scenes.


Has there ever been another show like avatar the last airbender? By that I mean a western show that did an anime style fantasy production? Seems like western cartoons are mostly shit and don't take fantasy seriously, but Avatar was pretty good. I wish they would do something like that.


There are plenty of western fantasy animated shows and films.
No none were "anime" like as avatar was as deeply Asian inspired besides maybe kung-fu panda.

Maybe give Jackie Chan Adventures a shot. It's Asian, fantasy, and has a strong martial arts focus while being of decent quality.
The writing isn't as good as avatar but the animation is arguably better imo.


>Jackie Chan Adventures is set in a world which magic and supernatural forces exist but are unknown to much of humanity

This is the exact type of shit I fucking hate with western fantasy. They just take the normal world that already exists and insert things that don't exist into it. It's buffoonish. I know there aren't dragons or unicorns or whatever in the real world so it is completely immersion breaking to put them in there. You have to actually create an alternative world for the fantasy to not be shit and lazy imo. Avatar was a great example. Magic was integrated into the world. It is a believable "alternate world". Western fantasy has a fetish for just inserting magic shit into the normal world and I hate it. That is the main reason I stick with Japanese and Chinese stuff (not that they're immune to this either, but on the whole they do a pretty good job). It's interesting that this trend actually seems more true for western cartoons than other media. It's not like western media is completely lacking actual fantasy worlds, but I just can't think of any good cartoons other than avatar that have them.


>things that don't exist into it
magic DOES exists normie


You are absurdly ignorant and seems to just be trying to just be inflammatory.

Magical realism, Urban fantasy, and other such things are and have been appart of the the fantasy genera for all of human history in all cultures world wide.
It isn't unique to the west.

Second, "western fantasy" has lots of high fantasy with other worlds and the like.
There is no "fetish" for inserting "magic shit" into the normal world any more then any other writing trope or theme.
It's like you are just trying to be vulgar and willfully ignorant to get a response. It's disgusting.

> It's not like western media is completely lacking actual fantasy worlds, but I just can't think of any good cartoons other than avatar that have them.

You don't know because you are willfully ignorant, rude, and dismissive.

Why did you even bother posting in this thread other than to desperately try to start arguments?


The only thing buffoonish is your response.


You're the one being rude you fucking asshole. I'm just talking about my personal preferences. I'm allowed to have those. Go suck a dick. Also if western stuff is so full of high fantasy, give me some examples of cartoons exhibiting these sorts of settings like I was asking for instead of just saying they exist and insulting me for saying I couldn't find them.


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The Secret of Kells

Took me way too long to get around to watching this wonderful movie. Deeply soulful and a true work of art.
5 our of 5. Loved it.


No one is doing shit for a cunt like you.
Fuck off forever.


magic is big with the normies. millions of 35+ succubi are into alternative medicine snake oil, stones, talismans, tarot, astrology.


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Look at this


Yeah, looks like crap.

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