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Any type of writing is allowed, from lyrics, to poetry, to essays, and anything in between.

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Some discussion starters for the thread:

>What are you writing right now?


>What's your favorite thing to write about?


>Is there anything important about writing that you wish you knew earlier?


>What literary devices do you implement in your writing?


>Is there anything that you're planning to improve on in your writing?
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 No.67682

>>67681
I was conplaing on /lounge/ (neet hiki thread) that there's so few manga/anime about neet/hiki. so one answered me about making my own manga but I don't know how to draw. so I decided to make a Light Novel like in welcome to NHK. thank you for the video

 No.67683

>>67682
Well best of luck to you. Writing isn't easy, but it's so satisfying to get ideas out the head and onto the page in a coherent narrative.

 No.67684

>>67683
thank you

 No.67685

>>67683
>but it's so satisfying to get ideas out the head and onto the page in a coherent narrative.
indeed

 No.67689

>>67680
Probably the best place to start would be to read a few light novels and analyze how they are written. I think that you need to have some understanding of the medium from the viewpoint of a reader. Just like to make good music you have to listen to music, just knowing how many notes per song is the most common isn't enough. (I assume just like >>67681 that you don't have much experience with LNs)

That said if you are a begginer I think getting feedback pretty often is important, you don't want to spend a few months writing an entire book just to find out that something fundamental is boring or badly done.

 No.67690

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>>67689
>Probably the best place to start would be to read a few light novels and analyze how they are written
I already read LN. I've read Welcome to NHK and I have goblin slayer manga and at the end they add an excerpt of the LN. what I guessed is the story telling is very smooth and got the right amount of description and event happenings.
>That said if you are a begginer I think getting feedback pretty often is important, you don't want to spend a few months writing an entire book just to find out that something fundamental is boring or badly done.
indeed I need feedback very often to know if what I've written is good enough.
here's the story/idea I have:
>30 year old japanese wizard hikikomori
>lives wirh parents (only child)
>he's a jerk and mistreat his parents
>all he does is playing bishoujo games and fapping to loli
>24th december, he got in a dispute with his parents, go in his room and breaks everything in his room
>fall asleep
>wake up in the middle of the night by a loli he sees in is favorite bishoujo game
from now it is like ' a christmas carol', with the ghost of past, present and future. after the three ghosts shows him his situation, he decide to go find a job

 No.67692

>>67690
I'm no expert on writing but I think that's a good place to start. I think that the biggest problem with writing a story centered on hikikomori is that you have to figure out how to make an interesting plot about someone that doesn't leave his room, so introducing supernatural elements like christmas carol is a clever workaround to this problem. (I haven't watched or read welcome to NHK so I don't know how they deal with it)

 No.67726

I have more or less given up on the wizard book I was posting chapters of here.

I think I will try writing shorter pulp adventure stories for awhile to stay in practice. I ain't ready to write full on novels yet.
Besides, with the stories being shorter I will be more likely to get feedback and be able to post them more places.

Speaking of getting in the swing of thing.


Dude that was wanting to write a light novel.
How's it going?
Please tell me you are still working on it.

 No.67751

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>>67726
hello, I'm the one who wants to write a LN about hikikomori. I'm still working on it but I don't have much ideas. what is your book about? can you give me a summary?

 No.67753

>>67751
>I'm still working on it
Good to hear.
If you keep at it the ideas will come.
>what is your book about? can you give me a summary?
The pulp adventure ones that I am still in the planning phase is about a town experiencing overt supernatural events and outsiders who specialize in keeping such supernatural events contained and quiet coming into the town disrupting things almost as much as the supernatural events themselves.


The one I gave up on and was posting chapters here was basically a portal fantasy/isekai. Got to chapter 11 completed but got burned out on the whole project by chapter 12. It bothered me how shit it was and how long it was taking (and still had to go) to get anywhere.

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>>67753
I'm still in the idea phase. so what are you going to do now you don't want to continue your isekai? will you write a new book?

 No.67757

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>>67753
lol look at what I wrote to begin the LN:
“Nya~~~chan, you’re so cute!”

said Ichiro, watching his computer screen.

“Ohh, oh…now let’s see the climate scene…Nya~chan, you’re naked!”

But when Ichiro wanted to masturbate to this scene, his mother enter the room

“Ichiro, here’s your meal.”

“NO OKASAN I ALREADY TOLD YOU TO KNOCK BEFORE ENTERING MY ROOM!”

it is funny, lol

 No.67758

>>67757
Let it happen to you.

 No.67759

>>67758
never happened to me

 No.67761

>>67755
>so what are you going to do now you don't want to continue your isekai? will you write a new book?
My plan is short stories all within the same setting that have details and characters that eventually interconnect into a apocalyptic cross over event.

If it is not total shit then I can collect all the stories into one omnibus as a sort of complete book.

The structure is inspired by pulp magazines and contemporary internet horror stories. I think western comics are sometimes structured that way too, but my exposure to them is limited.

 No.67762

>>67757
What books or pieces of literature are you taking inspiration from?

 No.67763

>>67762
none. but I need some knowledge on otaku culture.

 No.67764

>>67763
>none
What is your motivation or objective in writing?
I would suggest you try outlining the plot or otherwise using some method of structuring things. What is the essence you are trying to get across. What is the theme?

>but I need some knowledge on otaku culture.

Only if it's directly relevant to the story you are trying to tell. Don't just insert token stuff to pander. It will come off as insincere and make someone who is a fan of the thing dislike your work because they can tell and don't like being pandered to with lazy tokenism.

 No.67766

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>>67764
>What is your motivation or objective in writing?
lack of manga/anime/LN or VN about hikikomori. (I want to make a story like welcome to NHK)

>I would suggest you try outlining the plot or otherwise using some method of structuring things. What is the essence you are trying to get across.

that's what I'm doing right now, I doing description of the main character for now. for the first chapter, I know what will it be.

>What is the theme?

slice of life, I guess

>Only if it's directly relevant to the story you are trying to tell. Don't just insert token stuff to pander. It will come off as insincere and make someone who is a fan of the thing dislike your work because they can tell and don't like being pandered to with lazy tokenism.

I've watched anime, read manga (I have a physical collection), I played video game from japan, but even if I have the same interest in otaku culture, I can't call myself a real otaku because I lack experience. (exemple: I've never played a touhou game)

I also need to know how the japanese system/society works (example the food in japan, I only know cup noodle haha)

I hope I'll get help from wizchan about otaku culture and japanese
society and how it works

 No.67767

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>here's the LN summary

Ichiro Kōkan is an 18-year-old student. He takes philosophy courses at the university in Tokyo where he has moved. He lives in a small 6-tatami-sized apartment that his parents pay for by paying him money every month.

But philosophy bores him, he prefers to skip classes and play video games all day rather than study. After a while, he stops going to class altogether and stays indoors all day and night doing whatever he pleases for months.
After a while, he was expelled from his school. Ichiro lies to his parents by making them believe that he is still in college so that he can get his payment every month.

After 2 years of staying locked in his room, Ichiro became almost a modern-day hermit.
Now sporting long hair that has never been cut in 2 years, he lives in an unsanitary room. Between piss bottles and trash cans littering the floor inside the apartment, Ichiro is in his element. He has now reached the life of a complete parasite of society.

The weather ? he lives outside of time. Space ? he only knows the inside of his apartment. Others ? no longer exists for him. He became the perfect Hikikomori. The ultimate NEET.

We will later learn that Ichiro was hit and made fun of by other students throughout his schooling. He's been hiding this from his parents since middle school. Ichiro leaves university because he was made fun of. He never had any friends. He hates people and tries to avoid them as much as possible. He dreams of never seeing anyone else again in his life and living hidden from others for the rest of his life.

 No.67768

>>67767
that's the background*

 No.67769

>>67766
>slice of life, I guess
I asked about the theme, not the genera.

 No.67771

>>67769
hmmm I'd say, not be shy, people aren't all bad, friendship, accept society. I don't know I wasn't thinking about a theme. it is like the point of the story. my point was like welcom to nhk , make a ln about a hikikomori. I didn't think far from that point haha i'm fucked

 No.67778

>>67766
>I've never played a touhou game
Like the other wizard wrote, don't put stuff in just to pander. If you didn't play touhou then don't write about touhou just for the sake of it, it will feel forced to someone who is a fan of the games.

>>67767
Sounds good but you need to figure out the plot. You can't really begin working on the novel without knowing what will happen in it, just knowing that you want the main character to be a NEET isn't enough.

>>67771
>I'm fucked
I wouldn't say that, you just need to figure out exactly what you want to write. I think writing a novel about a NEET is especially hard because it's hard to write something interesting about someone who doesn't leave his room, but it can be done.

>not be shy, people aren't all bad, friendship, accept society.

Pretty standard but I could see this working in a light novel.

P.S. don't give up I'm rooting for you

 No.67783

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>>67778
>here's the chapter one, (I tried)

chapter 1: Ghost stories

Only the light from the computer screen illuminated the room. In the darkness, a man sitting on his chair spoke to himself:

“Oh…Ai-chan, there you are naked in your sheets”

“I-I’m coming, I’m undressing, O Ai-chan how I love you! Make love!"

Ichiro Kōkan, 20 years old and still a virgin, had just satisfied his primary needs on Ai-chan when suddenly, a noise coming from the window made Ichiro jump. Then, a second knock on the window made Ichiro get up from his chair and go to see what it was.

In front of the window was a little succubus in a dress and a balloon in her hand. It was in the park just below Ichiro's apartment. Nothing could be seen except the silhouette of the little succubus. It was dark and Ichiro wondered what a little succubus was doing outside in the middle of the night, kicking her ball against her window.

For a moment then the little succubus disappeared, Ichiro began to become afraid.

“It’s-it’s a ghost! I'm sure"

Then again a noise was heard but this time it came from the front door. Ichiro slowly walked fearfully towards the door then looked through the peephole. He saw a head with hair hiding the face. Ichiro jumped and fell to the ground.
He runs to take refuge in his bed while imploring Kami-sama to scare away the ghost. Ichiro didn't sleep all night; he no longer knows when the noises stopped.

When Ichiro woke up, it was already afternoon.

 No.67784

>>67783
Is that it?
That isn't even a full page.

 No.67785

>>67784
that's it for now

 No.67787

>>67783
Chapter 1, line 2
>-The little prepubescent succubus who is flawlessly sexy and totally legal and docile due to being a robot is eagerly awaiting me to put my tongue in her bottom
Chapter 1, line 3
>-I am cumming; I will put my tongue in her bottom soon

more

 No.67788

>>67787
ok i'll add this sentences
>>67778
>don't give up I'm rooting for you
thank you very much

 No.67789

>>67787
>more
more what?

also, I want Ichiro to talk about what happened to him on internet but should I make our protagonist use 5ch or 2ch??

 No.67790

>>67783
Slow down the pacing a little bit, the entire ghost encounter takes like quarter of a page. I know that this is supposed to be a light novel but even so you are too brief.

This is common writing advice but you need to avoid repetitions. You used the word succubus in 4 consecutive sentences, and it just sounds bad. Use synonyms or restructure your sentences.

>>67789
>should I make our protagonist use 5ch or 2ch??
I think this is pretty unimportant, the choice will hardly have any effect on the story and it's easy to change anytime. In a lot of things, not only writing, beginners tend to get hyper-fixated on minor details and decisions, which makes them progress very slowly with the main task.

I think your goal for now should be writing some form of draft of the first chapter or something like that (at least 10 pages). You also need to figure out what will be the plot of the book if you haven't done so already. You need lots of trial, error and feedback to write a decent book, and the sooner you have something to show the better.

 No.67796

>>67790
>here's the continuation

When Ichiro woke up, it was already afternoon. Was what he saw that night a dream? He didn't pay any further attention and rushed towards the fridge.

With his can and cup noodle in hand, he went to the computer. Ichiro after reflection decides to talk about what he saw that night on 2ch.

User#1
I saw a ghost last night in the neighborhood across from the park. What do you think?

User#2
I heard about a ghost roaming the neighborhood but I thought it was just a legend.

User#3
A person went missing this month in the neighborhood. Some say it was the ghost of a little succubus who would appear to take people to hell with her that made the person disappear. Take care

 No.67797

>>67790
should I make a draft to begin?

 No.67798

>>67797
You shouldn't be asking questions on how to write. You should just be writing.

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>>67798
>here's my last ideas and where I want to go (a summary). after that I don't know what to write
Ichiro began to worry when suddenly he heard the sound of a door opening. It came from his house, it was his front door opening. Ichiro, scared, went to hide in his bed.
He heard footsteps coming towards the room and suddenly saw a little succubus in the room and said loudly

“YUCK! It stinks here, there you go, Mako, this will be our landmark!”

Ichiro jumped out of his bed but hit the ceiling and fell back onto his bed.

“Hey, what was that noise, Mako?”

the two succubi looked up and saw a man on the platform.

“WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE AND HOW DID YOU GET BACK? !”
Ichiro shouted and threatened to call the police or the owner.
The succubus let out a little laugh and said:

“you see, I am the daughter of the owner who owns this entire apartment, which means that I have the right to live wherever I want and I have the keys to each apartment, hehe…”

Ichigo, in rage said:

“What gives you the right to come to people’s homes like that! ?”

“if you don’t accept our cohabitation, I’ll tell the police that you touched us hehe”

Ichigo didn't know what to do and replied:

“s-witch”

then another voice, more reserved said:

“Come Erika, we shouldn’t stay here, we’re going to have problems” she said worriedly. Then the two succubi left.
Ichigo hurriedly ran to the front door and double-locked it then took a deep breath, he was less stressed now.

Ichigo came to his senses. After that, succubi aged between 12 and 13 came to him from time to time and teased him about his situation and his love life and the fact that he was a perverted hikikomori.
One day Ichigo will tell them why they chose him over someone else. They will say that when they play in the park at night (in front of the apartment), they see a light every evening. So one day Etika decided to throw a ball against the window to get a reaction from Ichigo. He will say “were you the ghosts? !” to which they will say yes and then make fun of him.

 No.67813

>tried to write a adventure story
>decided to stop procrastination and just pants it instead of laying it out with a outline
>It almost instantly became a horror story
>fuck it lets go with it
>it just gets more and more disgusting and horror filled
>zero adventure elements at all
>it's just a straight horror story now
>was supposed to be apart of a set of stories
>guess they are all going to more or less be horror related now


I swear there is something wrong with my brain. This is yet another reason why I should use outlines.

 No.67814

>>67813
can you provide?

 No.67816

>>67814
It's a bit passed half finished.
I am working on the climax and falling action now.
Once it's finished I will go over the full draft with a clean up edit then post it here. Might take a day or two.

 No.67824

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hi, it's the guy who wanted to make a light novel. I stopped. I want to write a cyberpunk book and a fantasy book now

 No.67825

>>67824
What are some of your
c y b e r p u n k i n s p i r a t i o n s ?

 No.67826

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>>67825
>>67825
>blade runner (the book)
>psycho pass
>gits (movie 1 and 2, live action, series)
>matrix and animatrix
>blade runner 2049
>blame! (manga)
>experiment serial lain
>ergo proxy
>akira (movie and book)
>e.y.e divine cybermancy
>neotokyoº
>texnolyze (anime)
>some what I call cyberpunk musics
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbniq6ShcFR4QvA4NfsM8RCQL-JwK4aVq&si=JspDs4kVTDBNlrx6
>some cyberpunk documentaties and mini movies
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbniq6ShcFR5df6Y5PgLdZlFhRp0Dwmhb&si=ffieWVOzP9RN1tXR
I also played 10 minutes of cp 2077 but I don't consider it really cyberpunk

 No.67827

>>67826
>I also played 10 minutes of cp 2077 but I don't consider it really cyberpunk
Good because it's not. It's just California with RGB LED lighting

Please watch Dennou Coil

 No.67829

>>67827
>denou coil
I will thank you

 No.67840

>>67827
>California with RGB LED lighting
lol you're right

 No.67859

>>67816
are you still working on?

 No.67860

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I want to write a fantasy book. I've started by writing down names first. is it a good idea?

 No.67866

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can I write a book if I didn't read so much books in my life?

 No.67871

>>63690
that sounds interesting, update when complete plez

 No.67880

I have been skipping any sort of long text I see on the internet immediately nowadays, I just suspect that it has been written by chatGPT. am I wrong for doing this? this also made me question, when people are writing things nowadays aren't they scared of just being accused of simply using chatGPT? writing seems like a dead end to me. I would like to be wrong on this though.

 No.67881

>>67880
Pretty sure folks can tell immediately when text is written by chatGPT, the ai follows the same routine structure for every piece it writes. Also I suppose it depends on where you are lurking, on the chans I presume there won't be and there never will be the rise of ai written texts.


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