/hob/ - Hobbies

>>69603
I think both have value. One primarily to try and improve technical skill and the other for more personal expression

>>69604
Just improve your technical skill through acts of expression…

Been trying to draw a skull for a few days – want something that looks like those old Medieval woodcuts

>>69607
I once took a Print class 6 years ago, where you carved these plastic slabs, coated them in ink, and pressed them down on paper. Said technique would've accomplished the woodcut look spot-on.
All I went with, however, is this (attempted) Cubist take on Chester B…

This thread has become 100% Chris-Chan tier

>>69609
Well hey, better him than the creator of the "Tails sitting on a bench" comic..

>>69609
rude

>>69611
Yep
>>69610
No, not really. This site would be better off with hurdcub scatophiles than it is with the developmentally withheld manchildren who speak to themselves in every thread that we have now.

>>69612
Eh, fair point. Wizchan has been getting raided by 4chan crabs, who can't accept individuals that don't have a circumcised pushover mindset, lately…

>>69609
>Chris-Chan
Reminder that he is no longer virgin, its free from jail, the internet has left him alone and now has a cute finnish gf (flutter). So comparing him to people is actually a compliment now lol. Although idk if his art has improved or not.
Also this thread is one of the most active draw threads out there, only exceeded by 4chan and anthro. foo. So no idea why are you so mad. Maybe try posting some of your fine art instead of whining at other people drawings?

>>69620
>this thread is one of the most active draw threads out there
Not by a long shot.
>So no idea why are you so mad
Because this thread became another personal blog for manchildren to repeatedly post their dumb cartoon fan scribbles and the material consequences of their mental illnesses. It's embarrassing, sickening to look at. It would be irreverent to my own shitty cartoon doodles to post them in this stinky poopoo daycare thread alongside this crap. Look at the diversity of styles and points of view from the previous threads. Look at how that all stopped the moment this >>69003 and this >>69527 shit begun being posted. And then one of those idiots breaks 10 years of tradition by making the new version of the thread with HIS preferred normalfag Google result tier resources and HIS crappy doodle he made be referencing an image on his computer. It shows an incredible lack of awareness for the valued wualities of the community and lack of consideration for what others want to see in a thread - even when he had 10 years of threads to learn from.

Not every thread (in fact, no thread ever) needs to accommodate mentally ill manchildren. This isn't a safespace for baby-brained Disney fans.

>>69623
LoL butthurt

>>69623
Swings both ways.
No one needs to tolerate you being a enraged jackass just because you don't like someone else's drawings.
It's a hobby thread, not serious buisness. You being a jerk and trying to bully people off the site for no other reason then you being a hater makes you seem like the one that needs to go.
They aren't the problem.
You are the problem.
You don't belong here. I would argue with your attitude you don't belong anywhere.
Fuck all the way off.

>>69625
Drew you

>>69625
Just ignore him. Bullies only respond to strength..

>>69628
Yes, yes.. Let people who post sour things continue on posting those opinions unabated.

>>69623
>Not by a long shot.
Care to say which one are you refering to? Cause I been in a lot of imageboards and all of them have dead art theards. 28chan, Endchan and Trashchan are dead, heck even popular ones like 8kun and 8chan .moe with boards dedicated to art are very inactive. These place is alive compared to those.
>Because this thread became another personal blog for manchildren
Your manchild ramblings doesn't help either, if you want this place to change for the better, then be the change you want to see.
>It would be irreverent to my own shitty cartoon doodles to post them in this stinky poopoo daycare thread
Epic crab mentality. If you are afraid to post your drawings and hate other people art so much, then why continue to stay here? I dont get this weird masochistic behaviour.
Also >Inb4 "you dont post your art either" Well, I was going to post some drawings but i get the "cannot post images with proxy" error. So whatever.

>>69626
god-tier woah-jak

This time on the wizchan drawthread

>>69623
>lack of consideration for what others want to see in a thread
oh fuck off, this is a public thread. not some exclusive thread meant to just cater to your liking.
I do not mean you any harm when I say this. I don't get why people come to places like this and then expect consistent high quality content.
Since when did highly skilled artists frequent places like this? You are in the wrong place if you expected some high art museum next to an prestigious art school.

>>69061
My Asian Geriatric art teacher begged to differ.

>>69640
You went to art school?

>>69642
No, I just like drawing asian geriatric art and hired a private tutor for it, dingus.
>>69320
Her name is Taarna. She's from the 1981 movie Heavy Metal (slow in parts, but really good, I do reccomend it).
>>69003
Thank you. I based myself off of a manequin, which had its ups and downs (hence why I'm too shy to post on twitter). I tried working with commissions more than a decade ago. It could've gone better, but it might improve now. Your works are pretty good so far. A bit of negative space here and there, but the shading works. Keep it up!
>>69227
Thanks. I have enjoyed Mr. J's style for quite some time, so I definitely wanted to give her a go.

>>68877
How do I stop being lazy and get motivated to draw more?

>>69675
Just draw more. If you can type on an imageboard you can draw. Draw what you want to draw instead of stressing over what you think you *should* draw in order to get better.

>>69675
I'm a beginner so take my advice as a pinch of salt. But what I do in order to draw some stuff is to listen to a music playlist and use gloves cause my hands get really cold. Also I recently started to use some books as references (for things like food, faces and clothes).
And as for motivation, maybe try to remember some weird/interesting dreams that you had recently. Today I dreamed about being a lifeguard and doing CPR to a drowning succubus.

>>69675
Just dont do it.
If drawing worries you so much it's obviously a bad thing, not laziness.
Otherwise even a stick figure would be fun to pull off..

>>69676
Thanks for the advice, anon! I'm trying to do just that and it helps.

>>69677
For a begginner your advice sure is good, loved the idea of drawing dreams, get in touch with our subconscious, that's really cool, anon.

>>69685
I really am just lazy, also depression makes it hard to enjoy even things I know I like.

>>69686
I mean I found a method that is effective so far, but you need patience, and a tolerance to cringe.
Basically just extert yourself as slowly, and gently, as possible.
Now I don't mean pretend to go slow, as you're still repressing energy, which will just implode. No.
Just do something, but adjust as much the speed as the momentum/force you're exerting. At first it'll be hard because you're accostomed to doing things at a certain rate. However, if you go at your normal speed, if not faster, you'll want to rush.
Meaning you'll want to finish it asap.
Meaning you want to get it over with
Meaning you just don't want it to stay in your mind.
Meaning you don't actually want to do it (hence why your brain implodes even if you "fake it till you make it").
However, if you extert yourself as gently, and by default slowly, as possible, your mind will take it easy as well.
Like I said it's working for me so far…

>>69690
This isn't bad advice… it's just that I work 7AM to 5PM, I'm home from 6PM to 6AM and the majority of those hours I have to spend sleeping to endure work, I might have 4 "free" hours in the day, which often aren't free at all because there's other things that I have to do which just so happen to not be my job, but are still work in a way, so naturally I rush though it all so I can have time to actually do everything I need to do, both chores and leisure. I think taking time would help, so this is genuinely excellent advice in my eyes, but sadly it's not viable for me right now, at least not on week days, on weekends though? I'll try this out!

>>69693
> I might have 4 "free" hours in the day, which often aren't free at all because there's other things that I have to do which just so happen to not be my job, but are still work in a way
That's "the 4HL", and it is by design.

>>69693
All righty then, good luck.
Though try to keep the tmi to a minimum.
This is /hob/, not /dep/.

>>69694
I've never heard of it before, sounds interesting, I'll take a deeper look.

>>69695
I see, I apologize. I admit I have the habit of writing and exposing a bit too much on forums and imageboards… I'll do better.

>>69686
>For a begginner your advice sure is good
Thanks, I started like ~3 months ago, so i'm glad to see my advice being useful. Here's some other things that might me useful:
»Start a sketchbook and date your drawings (even if they look ugly at the begining, you will soon start to see some improvement)
»Use a chronometer to estimate your total drawing time. (I have around ~74 drawing hours)
»Create the habit of drawing eveeyday by setting an specific "drawing time" (I personally draw from 9 to 10 pm)
»And if your mind is blank when trying to draw, dont be ashamed to use some references as inspiration.
>>69686
>I really am just lazy, also depression
Same, I procastinated a lot this summer, i'm try to lock in and increase the drawing hours somehow. Also about the depression, I never been diagnosed cause I never talked to a psychiatrist lol but the overwhelming feelings of futility had always been there, persistent within me, but after I started to draw, those feelings have significally decreased,furthermore
the act of materializing an idea out of thin air has filled me with hope.
And so I hope you also get better anon.

Also going to post some drawing I did today, I usually prefer to remain silent, due to being a dumb prefectionist afraid of attention lol but whatever, here goes nothing. Oh, and also forgive the mobile-posting, I can't post images from the PC

>>69699
Damn… 3 months? I think you're a lot better than I was when I was 3 months into drawing. I appreciate the set of advices, anon. I recommend going to a physician if you can afford it without much issue, though I know it and the medication can be tough in our pockets. I hope drawing helps both you and I to get out of this mindset we're stuck at, what's helping me get over mine is the not so small things, the things that might seem pointless, but that matter to us. When I come home from work, and I can post on the imageboards I like about my hobbies, and then go do those hobbies, its enough for me to feel pretty content with life, it's so nice.

I made thumbnails for a full length comic for the first time in almost 4 years…
the side effects of weed gummies after 2 days is still prominent, be gentle

>>69716
This is the drawing thread.

>>69718
Ah sorry.
Here is a self portrait then. <3

>>69714
>you're a lot better than I was when I was 3 months into drawing.
Really? Thanks for the kind words. But I honestly draw like trash most the time, my sketchbook is filled with 90% trash lol, I need to practice a lot more time daily though…
>I recommend going to a physician if you can afford it
Not to sound rude, but i dont think i will, being labeled as a "mentally ill weirdo" would destroy my career and relations with others. Sadly having mental problems is seen worse that being a criminal. Also trying to buy meds without a permit is illegal, so I'm just going to endure it and hope things get better.
>I hope drawing helps both you and I to get out of this mindset we're stuck at,
Agreed, also unrelated question but why do you draw? In my case I draw to express my feelings and my deranged worldview, ¿What are your motivations anon?
>I can post on the imageboards I like about my hobbies, and then go do those hobbies, its enough for me to feel pretty content with life
Yeah, same happens to me, posting on imageboards is the only cope i have left lol, unfortunately most of the art boards/threads are quite dead.
>>69716
>I made thumbnails for a full length comic
Sound interesting, what is the comic about? And ¿Do you have any tips to make a comic? Cause I wanna start one myself, but i have no idea how.
>>69718
>This is the drawing thread.
Then post (you)r drawings anon.
>>69719
Very expressive drawing anon, i really like the silly expressions lel.

Also here a ugly drawing i did some days ago, but inked today. My hatching technique is awful lol

>>69720
Oh, I forgot to post the image kek.

I know both of these are atrocious, but I feel somewhat proud of them. I've mostly been just copying references mindlessly for a while and got burnt on it, and forcing myself to draw something mostly from imagination feels pretty awful and I can't stick with it enough even though I know I probably should to actually apply myself. I don't really feel like I am doing things right but I am trying to keep at it every day.

>>69720
>Not to sound rude.
You don't, anon. Don't worry.

>I'm just going to endure it and hope things get better.
That's alright, just don't close yourself completely from the option to get help, if it's between that and suicide or something, treatment is still better, also as long as you don't tell people about the appointments and medication you should be fine, unless your medical professionals leak something and then you could win some good money on a lawsuit.

>Agreed, also unrelated question but why do you draw? What are your motivations anon?
I'm not sure, it's just something I'm fond of, that I enjoyed as a kid, especially because people told me I was good at it, and overall I enjoy artwork and being able to make whatever comes to my head, turning an idea into actual art, is satisfying.

>Yeah, same happens to me, posting on imageboards is the only cope i have left lol, unfortunately most of the art boards/threads are quite dead.
I think /ic/ on 4chan is pretty active.

>>69724
Pretty good.
Kind of remind's me of Sigurd Hosenfeld's early work.

>>69724
>I know both of these are atrocious, but I feel somewhat proud of them.
Relatable feeling lol, they ain't atrocious though, they do need some more polishing.
The first one looks rough due to the chicken scratching (short and repetitive lines), while the second pic anatomy feels a bit off, although the shading (especially in the hair) is quite good.
Some recomendations that might be useful:
→Try to practice individual parts (hands, torso, legs) and then combine them.
→Use a "stickman" as the starting structure from which build the body.
→Make the pupils a bit larger and pointing towards a side to avoid that "starting into the void" type stare.
→Change your posture and perspective to notice flaws or mistakes from another angles.
>I've mostly been just copying references mindlessly for a while and got burnt on it
Yeah, trying to same thing over and over is a mistake. I had done it myself before and it feels like insanity. Now I draw with a more "mixed" approach. By using books, dreams, references, random ideas and concepts, etc.. It's easier to draw and harder to get burnout.
>I don't really feel like I am doing things right but I am trying to keep at it every day.
We all feel like frauds sometimes, dont feel bad for it, Its a normal feeling to have, the lack of guidance can sometimes feel suffocating. But is that same feeling that allows creative freedom. So shake that feeling and keep creating anon!
>>69725
>don't close yourself completely from the option to get help
Thanks for the advice, I always thought that isolating myself was the easier and less painful option to take, but after years of solitude I have noticed that nothing has truly changed, So I reached the conclussion that in order to change the world, I need to work on myself first. Therefore, I am trying to leave the past behind and I start to talk more to people, Recently I joined a social program to help other people. So I might not be as active anymore. Also kinda unrelated but this video made me think a lot today about my inner ideas. Specially after minute 10:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXD0SPhncBs
>turning an idea into actual art, is satisfying.
I agree, it feels good to let trapped ideas finally be free after all these years.
>I think /ic/ on 4chan is pretty active.
Its been a while since I have enter that site, and I dont think I will go back. Sadly 4chan isn't what it used to be. Although I post (sometimes lol) on other imageboards like 8chan and Anthro .foo

>>69727
Also here's an awful drawing I did today lel.

I made this today since I have been watching Mitsudomoe. Not a feat by any means but I wanted to draw something cute to try to relax since all I have been doing is grinding studies and trying to figure things out. Part of me feels like I might be too retarded to grasp things like how shapes are supposed to move in a 3D space.

>>69726
Thank you.
>>69727
Thank you, I took your advice to heart with some of my other stuff and tried to figure out how to deconstruct pieces from artists I like. I am still struggling a lot and almost gave up today while following some course I felt like I was ramming my head against the wall with.

It's easier to draw nature and landscapes than I though, often just using a nice brush and doing simple strokes on a canvas can create the effect of something complex, I have Bob Ross to thank for this realization, it's not that difficult and I'm having fun.

Hello everyone. I stopped drawing three years ago, but I want to start again..

>>69730
>Not a feat by any means but I wanted to draw something cute
It is a valid feat though, I notice improvement, the earthy color palette feels warm and cute. And the shoulders and torso have a better anatomy, although the eyes might be too big for the head, Its still an overall improvement though. So keep going anon!
>I might be too retarded to grasp things like how shapes are supposed to move in a 3D space.
Same lol, I heard that "construction" (drawing tons of cubes and spheres from different angles) improves that aspect, but i haven't tested that yet, so idk if it works.
>I took your advice to heart
I glad that my silly words and tips inspired someone out there lol, Also speaking of tips, have you tried using multiple layers? cause I noticed some blank spaces in the hair, it's a minor mistake but using masks and layers could solve that problem.
>I am still struggling a lot and almost gave up today
Yeah, that struggle is real and its very annoying, The same happened to me, At first I felt overwhelmed and thought that drawing was way too complicated for me, but then I started to "let loose" and stopped being so worried about everything, Now drawing has become a very liberating and fulfilling hobby. So I recommend you to let the pencil run wild and the ink flow freely!
>>69738
>It's easier to draw nature and landscapes than I though,
Really? I've tried and I suck at it, I need more practice structures, do you have any tips or resources that might be useful? Thanks in advance.
>>69740
> I stopped drawing three years ago, but I want to start again..
3 years really? Those look really great anon. If I were to stop drawing, even for a few days my abilities would immediately implode lol.

>>69741
Also, I just did this drawing today. Inspired by a weird dream I had of a giraffe using jeans kek.