/jp/ - Japan/Anime

>>41051
Ah yes the mystical oldfag internet that we just had to be there to understand despite all we know of oldfag memes being just as infantile and devoid of creativity as any present trends. Zoomers can't understand rage comics, DESU spam or screamer videos. Truly inferior.

>>41059
>despite all we know of oldfag memes being just as infantile and devoid of creativity as any present trends.
It must be so depressing to be a zoomer, to not even understand that time works in a linear fashion.

>>41059
>Zoomers can't understand rage comics, DESU spam or screamer videos. Truly inferior.

>two imageboard memes and one video-hosting site trend

The internet used to be a massive ecosystem of websites and forums with their own cultures and in-jokes. You did actually have to be there to understand because most of the shit is gone.

This is the 100th post and 20th image in this thread (5:1).

>>41102
Post 100 and image 20, 100/20, 5/1, 5:1, 5. Your post made it an irrational number (4.391:1) and this post will make it 4.435:1.

>>41104
I thought you were just adding 3. 5:4 is also a nice resolution.

Lain is so boring, how can anyone sit through it?

>>41106
Because she's a succubus.
No matter how boring she is.

>>41106
Lain is a shit boring anime now adopted by trannies, bpd subhuman trash, and other unlikable failed normies from r9k and the like.

>>41109
I don't care who adopts it, I don't associate with them because they are trash and it doesn't define the show for what it is and means to me and others, if you dislike it for what it is fine but you're a tool if you're bothered by its new faggot fanbase. Someone made the same thing in the banner thread and you'll meet the same sentiment from me on the replies to that.

>>41110
Normies love to watch trash anime and be proud of it. It only happened to dbz and Naruto before but now no anime is safe. I can't enjoy something when I know it was created with retards watching it in mind.

>>41111
you sound incredibly insecure, and are most likely a teenager

>>41109
"Trannies" are only a problem because Lain lost in the real world.

>>41112
Cope you're the one that's insecure because you adore a franchise normalfags love and it makes you look bad in your anime clique.

I also recommended Boogiepop Phantom to one of the lainfags and he literally didn't understand what was going on besides that there were school succubi committing suicide.

Like a typical lainfag you don't even understand the content you consume.

>>41114
so your discord buttbuddies made fun of you for not liking lain and you're using this place as an outlet for frustration, unlike you i'm not part of any "clique" and i find it hilarious that you couldn't restrain yourself from projecting that over me

>>41115
Another cope. Keep watching normalfag trash and pretending to like it to fit in.

A serious question what's it like to be a zoomer (and onwards) weeabo, to have never known a normalfag-free hobby and those spaces which aren't colonised by normalfaggots but inhabited by mutated, self-mutilating, self-hating tranny nerds?

Is it a question that's even possible to answer?

>>41117
your post is completely off-topic as it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, i wonder why you chose this thread in particular as a place to vent about your culture war obsession, rest assured you're just as unintelligent, deranged and obnoxious as the people you're opposing imaginarily, brainwashed /pol/tard

>>41118
I'd rather have all communities be completely overtaken by /pol/ than have a single feminist, shipper, tranny or any of their supporters.

>>41117
Zoomers basically sit around until someone mentions an anime and then they watch it. They will never seek out an anime to watch on their own, and if they do they'll probably first ask if anyone seen it yet in their friend group

So, I'm confused because there's like a dozen mentions of the term "Zoomer" in this thread alone and shitting on them for X, Y, Z reason and comments being made like:

>Zoomies don't know le Millennial anime

and I'm thinking to myself "Millennial anime"? Anime belongs to specific generations now or something? Am I a Millennial? I recognize and remember most of the stuff talked about in here like what >>41059 and >>41061 mention. I'm in my mid-20s, so I'm practically stuck between two worlds and undergoing a perpetual identity crisis about what constitutes a Millennial and what constitutes a "Zoomer". Zoomer is referring to teenagers as a whole, right? Comments like >>41052 make me think so:

>they specifically grew up with smartphones and tablets and the shitty social media apps

Well shit there's my lead. I grew up online using the Windows XP (later Vista) family computer. There was no such things as smartphones except the first iPhone models with a far more primitive App Store and the rest were like Palm Pilots and Blackberrys with physical keyboards running Windows Mobile. I think everyone in their 20s should be able to, on some level, be on the same page granted if they were online in the 2000s.

Idek why Zoomers were even brought into this. Generational shitflinging just gives me a headache. Ignore or reply to this confused rant I don't care

>>41157
In a general sense I think the division is based around US American generations, "zoomer" referring to Generation Z, technically the ones born between 1997 and 2012. They came of age (as in becoming teenagers) in a world where the limits between real and digital were already being taken apart, if not completely nonexistent. For non-Americans it's more complicated, there was a kind of generational collapse because the US Zoomer culture became this instant standard for "global culture" on the Internet.

>Anime belongs to specific generations now or something
This is a whole other issue, but there is a huge difference in anime from different epochs, and also on the perception of and attitude towards anime by the West.

>>41157
If you use discord, twitter, youtube, or stream anime you're a zoomer

>>41117
>>41149
I recently looked up pictures and videos of an anime event in my city. It seemed to be 80% youtubers, American super hero movies, k-pop and popular games like Freefire, League of Legends and Genshin Impact, the rest was only very popular stuff like Naruto and One Piece or current trends like Spy X Family and Chainsaw Man. I did go to some in the early 2000s, back when the main attraction of the event was anime exhibition, and it's weird how people seemed to appreciate a higher variety of anime back then when so little was available. I suppose people who actually are into anime stay home now that so much of it is accessible, while the events became just an excuse for some generic social gathering for slight outcasts, with a tint of a vague common interest. There also seems to be some forced camaraderie, back then people were ruthless and there was no sympathy towards stuff like bad cosplay or "outsiders", like those only aware of the anime that was popular and on TV.

>>41157
Some insufferable faggot got mad at Lain for being popular now, liked by trannies, and being boring so therefore it's for zoomers and any message the show conveys or fanbase it once had is meaningless and dumb and gay.
>>41184
>it's weird how people seemed to appreciate a higher variety of anime back then when so little was available
They consumed whatever they could get their hands on. Now that anime has been made available internationally the medium is gentrified and based on fandom rather than the medium as a whole.

>>41114
lainfags are literally zoomer succubi and trannies it's actually pathetic and they need video essays to understand the anime they use to attentionwhore online as le special snowflake. They like to pretend it's deep when it's irrelevant when the fact of the matter is that it's a shit anime.

>>41157
>I'm in my mid-20s, so I'm practically stuck between two worlds
You're not stuck between two worlds zoomer, you are firmly in zoomer territory. Even being generous and you're 27, you're basically on the cusp of Gen Z. I think people born after '91-'93 are basically proto-zoomers anyway.

>I grew up online using the Windows XP (later Vista) family computer.
Windows XP came out in 2001, as the oldest zoomer you would have been around 5. When social media shit *started* to overtake everything and forums and imageboards *started* their decline would be around 2007-8, when you would have been around 12. You were never old enough to appreciate it. Hell, did you have ten dollars to post on a forum?

>>41161
>because the US Zoomer culture became this instant standard for "global culture" on the Internet.

This is what interests me, because everything is connected and every subculture is basically integrated into the larger overall monoculture being a zoomer+ weeaboo must be incredibly disorientating.

Even though anime seems to have degraded over the years, a lot of it still has that stupid "made for children"/"made for manchildren" essence where characters behave like autistic virgins, especially when it comes to the opposite sex, but it no longer fazes normalfags to the point where they laugh along with it as if a "laugh now" sign appeared. And you wonder what's going through their minds, when 15-20 years ago normalfags would have called it stupid/childish/retarded, rightly or wrongly.

Must be like being an outsider to your own hobby.

>>41258
>Zoom zoom zoomy! You're a ZOOMER! You're not an X-er or a Y-er like US! You're a whole different generation! An ignoarant little zoombaby zoomerfag zoomtard! Insider Doomerbro? No! Outisder zoomercel!!!!

Shut
the
fuck
up
This is textual soyjack posting. You're not elaborating on some distinct social divide between generations, you're not affirming his perceived unique worldview as being consequential to his birth year. You're just parroting a funny word you read on Reddit and 4Chan that people use to tell young guys that their opinions are different from those of old guys. Such a useless post you've gone and written.
>When social media shit *started* to overtake everything and forums and imageboards *started* their decline would be around
When social hierarchy obsessed, predivided retards like yourself begun to feel at home among us. You ARE the social media shitter when you post about this forced zoomercoomerdoomer garbage.

>>41259
>zoomer gets angry when you point things out
Like is it that hard for you to understand that your experience is different from a millennial geek? Getting anime in the 90s was difficult, especially if you didn't live next to any speciality stores or weren't part of an anime club. You only got what was super mainstream when normalfags still considered them cartoons as opposed to "anime".

>You ARE the social media shitter when you post about this forced zoomercoomerdoomer garbage.
Do you know where this -oomer shit came from? Gen Z retards who kept calling oldfags boomers on 4chan, so we retorted with zoomer. But gen z is unoriginal kept using -oomer on everything.

>soyjak
Zoomers are genuinely the reason we've had wojak and pepe memes for over a fucking decade.

>>41266
>4tard troll
seethe
kekeke

>>41259
He is what is referred to as an oldfag. Not as fag as they usually are but he still engages in wanting to keep his experiences monopolized by denying early zoomers or whatever succeeding generation the epoch he lived in even if they also lived within the same conditions or a substantial period of it, like late 90s babies browsing web 1.0 websites and going on KissAnime with their Windows XP computer. Only he feels he can do his era justice and that anyone else would dilute or distort it, which is sensible, but safeguards it so wholly that he looks down, belittles, act smugly (smarmily), and disrespects you, never seeing you on equal footing and regarding you as some stupid brat child who doesn't know what they're talking about. It's one of his few sources of pride after all. Don't bother to argue with them. In fact don't bother to argue with anyone on an imageboard who's already set on not liking you or has a strong unshakeable opinion.

>>41269
The fact that you needed to define "oldfag" for him is utterly representative of how detached zoomers are to old internet and geek things and their understanding of it.

>even if they also lived within the same conditions or a substantial period of it
Substantial? Nigger, the oldest zoomer was roughly 8 years old in 2005 when SA, 4chan, newgrounds, PoE, etc were in their heyday. There were already a ton of new innovations by that point that were taken as standard by zoomers.

>>41270
I defined it because oldfag and newfag have been wittled down to just veteran and green user with -fag suffixed to it, forgetting the whole "insufferable faggot" portion of that term and all it entails. Also yes, substantial, that's years of browsing (the waning) free internet assuming they used it regularly or heavily with the earnest televisionization/walled garden/corporatization/whatever you want to call it beginning in 2012/2013 more or less, that's a significant difference compared to what people some years younger than them got to experience. You can call the late 90s births a transitional zeitgeist, the idea of generations and how they're defined are mostly bullshit but are valid because people choose to believe in them even if you disagree with the years. Technological advancement increased exponentially in the time period they were born and growing up and that's more of a defining factor of this "micro-generation" than whatever the fuck sociologists or whoever determines when a generation starts and ends on. Sure, he doesn't know what the fuck pic related is and that people had a limited range on what they could search and having to pay for it too but he experienced a time when 12 websites didn't make up 95% of internet traffic and the mass-formalization of art.

I'm not going to mention Assassination Classroom anymore (at least in my obsessive ways) as I dont want to be the worst kind of fan possible.
What I will say, if nothing else anymore, is that the creator and I at least share two things:

1. Being a fan of certain characters with a more badass, albeit ooc, spin (in this case a beloved Newgrounds icon).
2. Our affinity towards a mid 10s ditty about goodbyes..

I can’t for the life of me find the manga in question but I’m almost certain it has been mentioned in this thread.
I remember there being a manga posted here where there’s a foreign guy working in the office who people are convinced had mulled someone. I think they went to some golden triangle country and lived there for a while with the MC who talked about starting his own country.
Other than that I only remember a vague comment about how some drink tasted like gasoline.
Again, very faint memory

>>41280
Foreign guy was blonde btw and had some kind of relationship with a fat lady who he killed I think

For fucks sake guys enough generational arguing. This was a good thread for a while, let's get it back track. Here's some more manga I read:

Ana Satsujin
A guy decides to hang himself but breaks off a hole in his wall. He's able to see his neighbor in the other apartment but notices that she murders people. He then gets involved with her. This one was a really wild ride with a crazy ending.

Mada, Ikiteru
A middle aged salaryman comes home to find his wife wants to divorce him and ruin his life, so he becomes a hermit in the woods. I really like this one since my ultimate goal is to be a hermit like this one day.

Saiteihen no Otoko
This one's about a kid that constantly bullied at school and is a complete loser as well as being a massive pervert. For some weird reason one day the most attractive succubus in school claims their dating but it doesn't make sense for reasons I don't want to spoil.

That's it for now. It's hard to describe these in too much detail without spoiling the story.

I have finished Fruits Basket (2019)
..uh….
Yeah, it was wholesome.
33% Hard Fantasy, 33% Comedy, 33% Telenovela from the 90s.
And 1% baka neko xp

Gegege No Kitaro, Episode 19.
(Though believe me: The real problem is powerlessness, not ignorance
- -..)

Lain may be my last anime for a while, nothing interests me anymore.

Finally got around to reviewing all of Miyazaki's films from 1979 to 2013.

I'll get to his most recent one once the times take a chill pill, leaving it at that - -.

>>41532
I remember the first Hayao Miyazaki film I wanted to see in theaters was Spirited Away. It was surely around 2002, fresh from its Oscar win, but I obviously only ended up seeing it a few years later on DVD. Since then the only Ghibli film I ever really saw in theaters was Secret World of Arriety, which was all right for the most bit. But yeah, pretty much every other Ghibli film I never really saw on the big screen.
Until now.
Sure it was worth it, but let's just say it was (ridiculously) almost as hard to access as the original Nosferatu last year, and that one was in the public domain (I technically had to sneek in despite at least REMEMBERING the code for the prepaid ticket I nearly lost access to). But I watched it, and so did millions of other people, so I'm sure a tiny percentage of them can give you a better opinion on it than I can (ESPECIALLY now that I've seen every Miyazaki film ever). What I can certainly say, however, is that watching one of his films for the first time on a larger screen leaves the kind of impression you'll probably never feel again even if you have a TV that takes up a width of your walls. Part Moebius, Part Tolkien light, part Pan's Labyrinth, there was even a scene involving a church-like interior which stretched a dozen stories high that had that classicly epic pre-Y2K aura which gives you a special kind of nostalgia that is harder to find nowadays. The rest of the film, however, is meh-ish compared to Miyazaki's more epic masterpieces. It has its moments, but at its best, it's as if the witch that cursed Porco Rosso cursed another guy into an egret and is essentially your guide to a cinematic greatest Miyazaki hits collection.
So I can see why some have had mixed opinions, but in a post-Made in Abyss world, I'd still say Miyazaki still had enough tricks up his sleeve to fill at least another film if not one more. And who knows, maybe time will allow us all to digest it a little better as has been the case with his previous works.
9/10.

>>41109
okay, and? do you dislike it yourself? Isn’t that more important?

>>41534
>pre-Y2K aura which gives you a special kind of nostalgia that is harder to find nowadays.

I hope you're not talking about a zoomer's impression of pre-Y2K nostalgia.

>>41539
Not really, I just mean that heavily creative aesthetic that breathes all kinds of life, detail, imagination, blah blah blah, on the animation and its mise-en-scene, as though the artist was inspired on too many levels to mention and wanted others to see that inspiration too.

But I'm old.
When I googled "50s animated movie backgrounds" I just got stuff from Disney or other USA related junk, instead of stuff from films like Johnny the giant killer or even Animal Farm.

Go figure.

>>41852
>When I googled "50s animated movie backgrounds" I just got stuff from Disney or other USA related junk, instead of stuff from films like Johnny the giant killer or even Animal Farm.
That is just google and most other search engines just sucking IMMENSELY for last 5-7 years? I can't remember exactly when google or any search engine was decent for that matter.

>Go figure.
It's intentional.

>>42271
chill out Wizzie. Just call the jannies.