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Maybe this belongs more on /hob/ and if the mods agree I would hold no ill will for them for moving or deleting it but I recently got around to watching Serial Experiments Lain and wanted to find some other wizzards with good reccomendations for /dep/ anime. The ones of course given are succubi last tour and Lain. I would personally not count Watamote as it seems quite shallow and everything turns out fine in the end and whatnot. So what are some other anime, manga or light novels dealing with actual depression or schizophrenia and not in the mainstream boohoo am so sad way.


Ping Pong: The Animation had some depressing moments.


Texhnolyze is an obvious one


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Angel's Egg is quite an experience.


I also want to see anime like what you describe but that kind of anime is extremely rare. The one I do know of with at least a little bit of a believable depression is Haibane Renmei, but it's not exactly what you're looking for. It's also made by Yoshitoshi ABe, the same guy that made SELain and Texhnolyze.


thanks, ill be sure to check it out. I havent seen that one


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Alien 9


I read Ningen Shikkaku a while back and I just watched the anime at your recommendation.
I suppose it was OK for being four episodes, but if I didn't know what was supposed to be happening from reading the novel it would be shit.


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Anime is rather limited in its scope, manga has much more variety in general. I suppose most of the obvious picks have been said here for anime, not that any of them really deal with depression. I'll list off the ones that seem sort of related, at least that I can think of anyways.

Aka no Hana
Grave of the Fireflies
Haibane Renmei
Kino no Tabi
Welcome to NHK

Really though I suggest just going to manga for depression related stories, anime costs too much to produce; its forced to pander to pathetic otaku and normalfags. See: Shinkai movies, shounenshit, CGDCT, isekai, meme shows, and all other related trash designed to make profit.


ashita no joe 1-2
patlabor 2-3


Thanks anon. I really agree about manga being a better medium. It really is a shame that shows that could be more interesting are forced to being more appealing in order to get enough money to warrant their production but I guess that's the tradeoff for having to put in less effort than manga or reading. If you've got some good recommendations I'd gladly read them


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I admit I haven't even scratched the surface of the untold swaths of manga out there, but I'll just throw what I know.

There is a lot more to pick from, but also a lot of poor quality shiet. Manga also still falls for the normalfag "must have a happy ending and/or overcome his bad state" much of the time, it's either that or as I said its downfall is poor quality writing. Strongest Man Kurosawa (Kaiji/Akagi author) and Kokou no Hito are my top two picks for sure, both are very well written and the art in both have distinct styles worth looking at. SMK is fantastic and really shows off what it's like for a loser of society at mid life. While KNH shows what it's like to be a depressed outcast who doesn't fit in.

There is also darker stuff like Aka no Hana, Himizu, Holyland, Ningen Shikkaku, Punpun. Lighter stuff like almost anything else by Asano Inio, 3-Gatsu no Lion and some other stuff I can't remember. There


hey, anon
i want to thank you for the manga recommendations you posted
it so happens that i have read through most of them in prior years, but Ningen Shikkaku was a new discovery for me. i've binged through it just today, and feel like i'll be re-reading it slowly over the coming days to properly take it in, though there isn't much in the story that i can relate to directly

…this post doesn't really have much point to it, but for some reason i really wanted to tell you that i appreciated your short recommendation list, so here it is.


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Ningen Shikkaku was great to read for the decent into pure madness, the absurdity of life, the strangeness of other people and your own interactions with them. It also has great cap worthy panels and doesn't embrace normalfag forced-happiness. For instance you can obviously tell at the end of Kokou no Hito that Mori was suppose to die on K2, but the author bowed down to the normalfags instead. Still I'm surprised you had read Himizu already, usually people don't know that one. However I've got another one you probably haven't read, Nande Ikiteru ka Wakaranai Hito Izumi Sumi 25-sai. Its a short manga and the beginning of it is perfection. Still falls for the forced normalfag story, but what can you say its rare to find one without that.

If you have any recommendations yourself let me know, I know far more anime than manga and still need to read more.


meant to reply to >>34737


ah, i can't truthfully say that i have an arsenal of /dep/ manga recommendations myself, most of what i read comes from other people's recommendations rather than dumspter dives and thus tends to be the more popular/normie-fied ones
i wouldn't think of recommending SMK, for example, as in my eyes it's a comedy manga mocking Kurosawa's life issues and giving him an exaggerated incompetent character moreso than creating a mature, yet still troubled mind for him and sympathizing (especially the time-skip sequel), but i can maybe do a couple well-known ones that might hit the spot

"Again!!" has an interesting premise and a few arcs exploring the characters' insecurities and struggles which i personally empathized with
"Jumyou wo Kaitotte Moratta. Ichinen ni Tsuki, Ichimanen de" has a great premise for strong feels, though it is a story of magical recovery rather than despair-filled descent it still explores them somewhat well

i'll check out Nande Ikiteru ka Wakaranai Hito Izumi Sumi 25-sai within the next few days too, thanks for the recommendation again! if i can remember anything else i'll post more, there's definitely at least one more manga whose name has slipped my mind at the moment


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You will probably enjoy REAL OP. This series shows the struggles disabled people have to face everyday and it also portrays the depressing situations the characters find themselves in.


SMK does have a-lot of comedic elements, but at the heart of it is a mid life man who truly is pathetic. After all the years gone by he finally looks back and realized he never truly attempted anything at all. I could relate the Kurosawa's monologues of fear, his own doubt, his regrets, his failure every step of the way, him being forced to acknowledge reality, his hatred of himself, there is so much to that character. It's rare to find authors who let their characters be as dark as Kurosawa is, not edgy dark or sad for the sake of being sad, but a true darkness after introspection of himself. Which is why there is so much comedy in SMK, Kurosawa is truly a depressing character. The author does a similar-ish thing with Kaiji, except Kaiji is more focused on human beings tendancy for risk aversion and hierarchy.

>Jumyou wo Kaitotte Moratta. Ichinen ni Tsuki, Ichimanen de

Ah yes I have this on my plan to read list, guess I should read it then. When I finish I'll let you know what I think.


as someone who loves martial art holyland is great


>Strongest Man Kurosawa (Kaiji/Akagi author) and Kokou no Hito

Pretty good choices. Strongest Man Kurosawa is one the best depictions of hopelessness in the medium. It doesn't become nor the
insufferable edgy emo like Punpun nor Kurosawa is the shy but cute succubus struggling at school that you would see in a mainstream movie. He's just a normal but unlikable dude (one of the most realistic parts of the manga, who would feel pity for a grown ass man? you're alone) being fucked by life.


Texhnolyze is a really good pick when it comes to depressing anime.


I finished Jumyou wo Kaitotte Moratta, it was very well done I must admit. Reminded me of Welcome to the NHK in a way. Your assessment that it is a story of magical recovery, rather than despair filled decent are very true; which is where it differs heavily from NHK .

SMK is just legendary stuff, it's a shame manga rarely touches upon mid life men in general. It is as you said "who would feel pity for a grown ass man?", and so too who would care about a grown man suffering in a story? Older single and unlikable men are so hated in general that they can't even make the cut for stories. At best they get minor roles, or as a comedic prop.
>insufferable edgy emo like Punpun
Any sort of edge isn't always a bad thing, I still find Punpun an enjoyable read and not as edgy as one might think. Real over the top edginess is Nijigahara Holograph (same author as Punpun) where it seems like every single character was either molested as a child, murdered, suicided, a murderer, raped, or some other horrific thing.


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finished reading Kokou no Hito today

strong feels on that one, for sure - feels like he was initially meant to die on K2, and then sometime after the all-mountain northern alps traversal the author changed his mind
though i think the manga definitely dropped the ball by giving him a cute wife and the "i'm definitely gonna return to my wife and kid!" motivation to survive K2, the character not caring for anything in his life and being abused for it was pretty well-presented

i'll move on to the other recommendation now


Yea, certainly after he gets a wife it isn't as great, still good but loses a bit of it's edge. I think if he had died on K2 it would have redeemed that aspect much more, but normalfag pressure is too great as I said. Still the beginning and all the way up to basically chapter 110 is perfection, if there wasn't the wife and child thing afterward it would have been the peak depwiz story honestly.

I was planning on reading "Again!!" but I can't stand ongoing stories. Nothing worse than having to wait literal years to finish a story (assuming the manga writer even wants to end it).


Again!! has been finished a while ago, 12 volumes in total
might be that your source doesn't have the full thing, maybe..?


Ah your right, I'll check it out then. Yea the site I was on said it was "ongoing".


I've turned to manga for a lot of /dep/ related themes. It's becoming more and more of a niche genre is the average anime watcher is no longer a massive loser. It looks like NHK and Kurosawa have already been listed. Kurosawa is my favorite. Here the one's that I have read so far:

Arigatou - I would recommend just finding a list of manga published by this mangaka and reading all of them

Himizu - I think this one was already mentioned here too

Homunculus - It's about a homeless mentally ill guy who volunteers in a psychological experiment. I could relate to it since I used to live out of a vehicle for a while too.

Ressentiment - A fat neckbeard working a dead end factory job discovers VR and tries getting a waifu. It's a lot more than just a tfw no gf manga.

Tsumi to Batsu: A Falsified Romance - Socially awkward anxious guy who is bitter and miserable with his life decides to plan out a murder and kill someone who assumes that no one will miss, only for it to completely backfire. A good cautionary tale for any wizards on here who fantasize about homicide.

Wanitokagegisu - Probably my favorite one that I can relate to the most. It's about a guy in his late 20s or 30s that works as a night shift security guard and all sorts of antics happen.

Many of these have romantic themes so before anyone bites my head off for not recommending truwiz media, I just thought I'd let you know now.


Ashita no Joe helped me when I was in a bad place. Similar to when he and his alcoholic coach were squatting under a bridge and trainning, I was squatting in someone's unfinished basement and an unemployed alcoholic when I first discovered both the anime and manga.


Same here. I was at my lowest 5 years ago watching Joe and it was very comforting. Haven't really watched anime since then. It's nice to go back to the first episode from time to time.
It's depressing that anime just faded into nothingness compared to the heights that they've reached in the 80s


>Haibane Renmei
10/10 amazing show.
Shame anime like this wont get made now due to zoomers being too retarded.
The manga is far better than the novel.
The novel is far overrated but maybe I am biased because my life is so bad that I did care for Dazais in the book.
Read the novel it is better than the anime and manga. The story is way different so watching the movie and reading the manga wont spoil it.
Himizu is a great manga about mental issues and not caring about society.

>Welcome to NHK


As I've reached my early 30s I feel more and more like Kurosawa every day. I can sit here and blame society all I want for my failures, but the cold reality is that I didn't put in enough effort to be someone so now I'm here.


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Present time, present day.


>Ilya Kushniwhatever's traced drawing


seems like foreigners who achieve to make it in japan are hated by their peers, it's the same with game freak designer james turner who's accused to be the reason of pokémon's decline.
it's pure jealousy. i swear if it wasn't known kushinov was russian, everyone would be sucking his dick or at least wouldn't say he isn't a legitimate artist.
i personnaly don't like his art that much but it angers me seeing people like him being insulted while worse art are being praised and being found excuses only because they were made by a japanese. those are the same cucks who make "western vs asian wimin" tier threads, as if it wasn't pathetic enough to praise wimns on the internet, they praise and defend the one of another country (ultimate cuckoldry). fuck dick suckers defenders of japan, i wish anime will decline, i'm tired of seeing those soulless bugs having the monopole on vusual art.


I think people don't like that art style because mixing western style art with anime doesn't create anime, it doesn't create western art, and it doesn't even create a new genre. It creates alien hominid looking creatures without the benefit of western style and without the stylization of Japanese anime. It's a nasty frankenstein's art.


He 1-to-1 traces Japanese illustrations
He doesn't even read, watch, or engage with the community of many of the series he traces from; if it's trending, he traces it and that's it
He actively puts down Japanese artists
He encourages Western left-wing influences to "shape" the current face of Japanese culture fan groups
He profits big off of tracing other artist's work

His traces all share the same uninspired tumblr meme style
He's rude
He's a communist tranny

>i wish anime will decline

Start by ceasing to post on the Anime board


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Ask Lain-chan


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Betsuni. Nandemo nai.


What the fuck?


I liked this.


Good recs, anon. Enjoyed Ressentiment a lot over the past week, moving on to the other stuff now.


Lain has been forever ruined for me, since it's pretty much cowboy bebop for tumblrites, aka the type of anime where after you're done watching it, you're quoting the show for months and using art of the MC as your avatar until you find another bandwagon show to hop on. Except people like .jpg related don't even understand the fucking message of the show: the internet and the real world should never mesh together, people that use social media and treat all hearsay online as fact, are nothing but a plague of mindless zombies


so it was on this board and not dep. couldnt remember when i was shitfaced so thanks for the bump.
anyway why care if other fans of something you like are faggots? they had nothing to do with the creation of that thing so they should be irrelevant for your own enjoyment.


Because the memes are too overbearing. You can't find a single forum, board or comment section discussing the damn thing without the LOVE LAIN meme and PRESENT DAY. It's like that stupid "get in the robot shinji you fucking pussy!!!! xDDddDD" shit. Fuck it. There are better arthouse films out there that do the same thing Lain does. That's pretty much what Lain should've been anyway. It could've been more atmospheric and well written if it were a 2 hour long movie instead of a short TV series.


i usually just tune out fanbases. only place i look for discussion about these sorts of things are on imageboards, and its not exactly perfect normgroid repellent either, but you can get a sense that some anons really appreciate the conversation topic and arent just treating what you like as a fashion trend.
people always beat jokes to death. everyone wants their turn to say the line. its an easy substitute for being funny on their own. i cant even talk down about it because i said the present day joke one time, so im probably the exact kind of person youre talking about and maybe thats why i dont see it the same way. i think its good for things i like to become popular regardless of the cancer it inevitably attracts since it can be financially beneficial to the creators, even if it leads them to lose artistic integrity and to my interest waning. definitely not the first time ive heard someone with the same sentiment as you so not trying to say youre wrong. just rambling.
i really wanted to find this thread last night to find something that has similar magic as lain. the only recommendation i could remember was texhnolyze. about 3 episodes in and its very strange.


This manga is several trips merged into one. The whole "You only see(hallucinate) that which you know" thing is taken to ridiculous extremes, and it's funny to me that the MC starts seeing himself everywhere in the end.
It feels like there are several ideas and threads that got left hanging during the course of the manga, but it was enjoyable and relatable in ways that aren't commonly pictured, presented, or talked about.
I will be moving on to Wanitokagegisu now, because I want to ask: Tsumi to Batsu: A Falsified Romance sounds an awful lot like 'Crime And Punishment". Is it a direct adaptation, or is there originality in there?


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I never "got" Cowboy Bebop. I prefered Outlaw Star.


Done with Wanitokagegisu, and also with Ressentiment.

Wanitokagegisu's author really knows how to draw and write people ugly. Every character is out for their own personal egotistical goals, every character is dysfunctional and inconsiderate, and every character who isn't (just the employers, pretty much) is only a mention at most. What a ride, man. Tomioka being the way he is when he tries to crawl out of the hole he's in is perfectly justified, and it's also plain to see how he would end up in there in the first place when surrounded with people like that.

Ressentiment is fantastic. Sakamoto being fat, ugly, balding, pathetic, and incompetent feels like it's played for laughs at times, but it's a very sobering image nonetheless. The way reality behind the romantic virtual world is presented as invariably gross and pathetic is a commentary on escapism, but it also reminds me that even the smaller niceties of people treating each other decently are done with full realization of the ugliness hiding behind it all.
I might be misinterpreting whether the manga intended to point that much out, but the real-life people in the simulation must clearly be aware of all of it, so…
The ending made me cry. Sakamoto ending up inheriting the shop, stuck unchanged but now even more alone, with the portraits of his parents and the friend (deceased, I presume) hanging behind the counter, haunted by ghosts of the past even more than a decade later… It hits close to heart.

Good-ass thread.


Many of the anime I watched as a child are /dep/ anime because the youth talk about it like they are discovering the ruins of an ancient civilization and it makes me feel very old.

Tenchi Muyo is now approximately as old as Urusei Yatsura was in 2011.


What's there to "get"?


>Tenchi Muyo is now approximately as old as Urusei Yatsura was in 2011.
Fuck me I remember when the Toonami dub was new and airing in the early 2000s like it was yesterday.


It's amazing how most millennial anime is lost media to zoomers. Even the stuff that aired on TV. Tenchi Muyo is as old as Scooby Doo was when I was ten. Except Scooby Doo was still relevant and could be viewed on television at that time. Ten year olds look at early-90's anime in the same way that I used look at early-70's Hanna Barberra. The stuff you might have had the chance to watch at Grandma's house because she had the Boomerang channel. It's probably a poor analogy because most older anime does not exist on regular TV in any form.


>It's probably a poor analogy because most older anime does not exist on regular TV in any form
Tell that to Spaniards.


Well that's all well and good for them.


Lain is just a meme show, I thought it waa boring.


Just because you personally don't like something doesn't mean it's a meme.


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It was already mentioned a few times further up but I really liked Himizu, read it a few weeks ago. The MC isn't a wizard but he comes from an extremely dysfunctional and poor family and suffers from an extreme obsession and maybe anhedonia. The first volume is kind of a black comedy that shifts focus around to a bunch of characters but the other volumes are much more focused and dark. And I don't want to completely spoil it, but it doesn't have a cop-out ending like a lot of depressing manga have.

Also I guess it had quite a bit of influence on Asano Inio (author of PunPun) and was well liked by some other artists as well



MC of Himizu is wizardly except for not being a virgin but he does not seem to show an interest in succubi.
The story is worth reading multiple times it is very nihilist.


Thanks wizzies, I’ll check it out right now. I have to get up and wageslave at 7 but Ive got an hour or so of dead time in bed. I’ll report back later with thoughts and opinions


Share your thoughts it takes some time to come into its own but is not long and is very much worth reading in my opinion.
We Did It is another manga like punpun


I’ll be going to bed now so I can get at least a few hours in but god knows it’s been long since I’ve been balancing the will to read with the will to sleep so closely. Really brightened my whole month and I mean that


Thanks for the recommendation I just finished it and I really enjoyed it. I’m not a very good anime reviewer and if I have some epiphany on what to say later on I’ll post it here. God damn you were right about the lack of the standard copout endings.


Please do share your thoughts when you have processed them I think that it shows a lot without outright telling. It lets the reader be exposed to ideas and lets you think about them on your own.

Please consider reading this https://mangapark.net/comic/66050/bokutachi-ga-yarimashita it is more of a narrative but just as heavy without being immature at all.
Punpun, Himizu and We did it (linked manga) are the best for dark manga in my opinion.


I'm all caught up on Saltiness. I'm not sure if it's /dep/ related as much, but the mc is an eccentric shut in so I would recommend everyone here give it a read. It's currently 27 chapters.


After reading both Himizu and Bokutachi ga yarimashita the paralells are striking. Both MCs are just looking for a "normal" life yet fail. Then of course there is the actual similarity in storyline which I'm sure I don't need to point out.
If one enjoys the one of them they will surely enjoy the other, yet they are different enough to both warrant reading. Himizu delves more into the feelings of failing at normality while Bokutachi ga yarimashita deals more with guilt (and how that disrupts normalcy).


Also a good recommendation, not for it's heavy themes but it's more of a /wiz/ manga than a /dep/. Has wizzardly themes such as a shut in with scewed world view, but it's also a funny one. First time I laughed at a manga in a good while, brightened my night


Same here. I was caught up on it in less than a week. I can heavily relate to the mc detaching himself from both people and reality.


Only read it is it worth watching Imagine heavily censored.
Glad you enjoyed it the same mangaka of bokutachi ga yarimashita has another manga worth reading VERY wizardly despite its appearance from memory a Yankee manga


bokurano is pretty good, it's dark plot is surrealist with ambient scenes, there's no MC that's the good part, the story reflects a moral paradox that eshews human loyalty and futility of existence with scientific rationality



No, they're all too sane and well-adjusted.


They really are normies just technophile normalfags who value privacy




I agree. I watched in in 2017. It was nice, some really great scenery. Would recommend.


Honestly, how do i get that motherfuckers jobs? That shit is real wish fulfilment for losers.


Remember when "tranny" used to mean something? As in, an actual transsexual and not just someone you disliked?


>Tsumi to Batsu
Only read half yet but god damn, yeah it’s good.
Thanks for the recommendation


Just about every good late 90s anime has been destroyed by normalfag zoomers nostalgic for that time period. I couldn't agree more that the internet and real world shouldn't meet, yet here we are. What made the internet great was that it wasn't reality. Now reality is reflected online and vice versa.


That's why I said I could relate to it. I used to be a security guard in my mid 20s. My job was from 1600-0000 in a hospital parking garage. I would just answer the gate calls on a cellphone to let all the doctors out of their shift, then I would get paid to fuck around like the protagonist and watch anime. Literally I just applied for a low end security company. I'm not sure if it's changed due to diversity quota bullshit, but 6 years ago when I was one they would hire anyone with a pulse.


>seems like foreigners who achieve to make it in japan are hated by their peers
Nar, i think Bahi JD is great. Ilya just sucks.


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Don't know if it strictly fits your criteria but i finished reading the 'Karma' arc of Tezuka's phoenix saga and i really enjoyed it. If the idea of a guy who was fucked since day one, is continuously battered and bruised (sometimes deservedly) and only finds the strength to live by loosing himself in a craft he has a gift for but doesn't particularly like sounds your speed then check it out.


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Spoilers ahead

I just finished himizu a couple days ago, gotta say none of the characters were that likeable apart from his freind Shozo who sacrificed a lot to help pay for Yuuichi's debt. God I fucking hated how he beat him up, but I guess it was a part of that whole 'humans are hypocritical', the ending was definitely memorable. Started reading crime and punishment, seemed pretty shallow to me, and kind of retarded. I didn't finish it (chapter 75 rn) but I will. Gotta say my favourite /dep/ manga would be higurashi, ressentiment, welcome to the nhk, and bokutachi ga yaramashita. Still looking for more depressing seinen shit to read, if anyone has any reccomendations please give me some


Saving for posteriority


Why did you quit? sounds comfy.


>Started reading crime and punishment, seemed pretty shallow to me, and kind of retarded. I didn't finish it (chapter 75 rn) but I will.

…as in the Dostoevsky book or some nip adaptation?


the nip version


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Not that wizzy but I read the manga and the novel and sadly the manga wasn't memorable aside from being less than memorable.

an entire side of the story being psychological is lost on the manga version.
The novel is WELL worth reading.

No longer human the manga is better than the novel though but not the Junji shitto version.


some bird manga i forgot. didnt get around to reading it but some other internet dudes said it was good and deep or something. the title is like something world of punpun


I quit because I needed more money. If I could afford to live on those wages again you better believe I'm going back to that life again.


The most annoying part is they don't even watch the show. They maybe watch few scenes of it and decide they are "lainpilled"


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i think that's just usual zoomer humor where they deliberately collage and nonsensify things


It is but that's not the case here, the guy getting angry at the faggot who drew this is on the money.


how do you do fellow annie may lovers! I too enjoy desus and mudkips lulz


>zoomer humour
I've never seen a generation so bereft of originality or creativity. With all the tech available at their very fingertips and instead of creating something new with already existing materials, all they can do is remix and regurgitate in accordance with the "current trend".

The observation reminds be of Baudrillard:

>Such would be the successive phases of the image:

>it is the reflection of a profound reality;
>it masks and denatures a profound reality;
>it masks the absence of a profound reality;
>it has no relation to any reality whatsoever;
>it is its own pure simulacrum.

>In the first case, the image is a good appearance - representation is of the sacramental

>order. In the second, it is an evil appearance - it is of the order of maleficence. In the
>third, it plays at being an appearance - it is of the order of sorcery. In the fourth, it is no
>longer of the order of appearances, but of simulation.


>With all the tech available at their very fingertips and instead of creating something new with already existing materials, all they can do is remix and regurgitate in accordance with the "current trend".
because they specifically grew up with smartphones and tablets and the shitty social media apps they contain. that's what made most of them so retarded. remember that article a couple of years ago of college professors having to explain to new students what files and folders were because most of them had never used an actual PC or laptop? all they knew about were "apps".


I thought that was an exaggeration.


Ah yes the mystical oldfag internet that we just had to be there to understand despite all we know of oldfag memes being just as infantile and devoid of creativity as any present trends. Zoomers can't understand rage comics, DESU spam or screamer videos. Truly inferior.


>despite all we know of oldfag memes being just as infantile and devoid of creativity as any present trends.
It must be so depressing to be a zoomer, to not even understand that time works in a linear fashion.


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>Zoomers can't understand rage comics, DESU spam or screamer videos. Truly inferior.

>two imageboard memes and one video-hosting site trend

The internet used to be a massive ecosystem of websites and forums with their own cultures and in-jokes. You did actually have to be there to understand because most of the shit is gone.


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This is the 100th post and 20th image in this thread (5:1).


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Post 100 and image 20, 100/20, 5/1, 5:1, 5. Your post made it an irrational number (4.391:1) and this post will make it 4.435:1.


1280 / 1024


I thought you were just adding 3. 5:4 is also a nice resolution.


Lain is so boring, how can anyone sit through it?


Because she's a succubus.
No matter how boring she is.


What you call boring, men call relaxing.


Lain is a shit boring anime now adopted by trannies, bpd subhuman trash, and other unlikable failed normies from r9k and the like.


I don't care who adopts it, I don't associate with them because they are trash and it doesn't define the show for what it is and means to me and others, if you dislike it for what it is fine but you're a tool if you're bothered by its new faggot fanbase. Someone made the same thing in the banner thread and you'll meet the same sentiment from me on the replies to that.


Normies love to watch trash anime and be proud of it. It only happened to dbz and Naruto before but now no anime is safe. I can't enjoy something when I know it was created with retards watching it in mind.


you sound incredibly insecure, and are most likely a teenager


"Trannies" are only a problem because Lain lost in the real world.


Cope you're the one that's insecure because you adore a franchise normalfags love and it makes you look bad in your anime clique.

I also recommended Boogiepop Phantom to one of the lainfags and he literally didn't understand what was going on besides that there were school succubi committing suicide.

Like a typical lainfag you don't even understand the content you consume.


so your discord buttbuddies made fun of you for not liking lain and you're using this place as an outlet for frustration, unlike you i'm not part of any "clique" and i find it hilarious that you couldn't restrain yourself from projecting that over me


Another cope. Keep watching normalfag trash and pretending to like it to fit in.


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A serious question what's it like to be a zoomer (and onwards) weeabo, to have never known a normalfag-free hobby and those spaces which aren't colonised by normalfaggots but inhabited by mutated, self-mutilating, self-hating tranny nerds?

Is it a question that's even possible to answer?


your post is completely off-topic as it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, i wonder why you chose this thread in particular as a place to vent about your culture war obsession, rest assured you're just as unintelligent, deranged and obnoxious as the people you're opposing imaginarily, brainwashed /pol/tard


I'd rather have all communities be completely overtaken by /pol/ than have a single feminist, shipper, tranny or any of their supporters.


>trying to render the question unanswerable


Zoomers basically sit around until someone mentions an anime and then they watch it. They will never seek out an anime to watch on their own, and if they do they'll probably first ask if anyone seen it yet in their friend group


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So, I'm confused because there's like a dozen mentions of the term "Zoomer" in this thread alone and shitting on them for X, Y, Z reason and comments being made like:

>Zoomies don't know le Millennial anime

and I'm thinking to myself "Millennial anime"? Anime belongs to specific generations now or something? Am I a Millennial? I recognize and remember most of the stuff talked about in here like what >>41059 and >>41061 mention. I'm in my mid-20s, so I'm practically stuck between two worlds and undergoing a perpetual identity crisis about what constitutes a Millennial and what constitutes a "Zoomer". Zoomer is referring to teenagers as a whole, right? Comments like >>41052 make me think so:

>they specifically grew up with smartphones and tablets and the shitty social media apps

Well shit there's my lead. I grew up online using the Windows XP (later Vista) family computer. There was no such things as smartphones except the first iPhone models with a far more primitive App Store and the rest were like Palm Pilots and Blackberrys with physical keyboards running Windows Mobile. I think everyone in their 20s should be able to, on some level, be on the same page granted if they were online in the 2000s.

Idek why Zoomers were even brought into this. Generational shitflinging just gives me a headache. Ignore or reply to this confused rant I don't care


In a general sense I think the division is based around US American generations, "zoomer" referring to Generation Z, technically the ones born between 1997 and 2012. They came of age (as in becoming teenagers) in a world where the limits between real and digital were already being taken apart, if not completely nonexistent. For non-Americans it's more complicated, there was a kind of generational collapse because the US Zoomer culture became this instant standard for "global culture" on the Internet.

>Anime belongs to specific generations now or something

This is a whole other issue, but there is a huge difference in anime from different epochs, and also on the perception of and attitude towards anime by the West.


If you use discord, twitter, youtube, or stream anime you're a zoomer


I recently looked up pictures and videos of an anime event in my city. It seemed to be 80% youtubers, American super hero movies, k-pop and popular games like Freefire, League of Legends and Genshin Impact, the rest was only very popular stuff like Naruto and One Piece or current trends like Spy X Family and Chainsaw Man. I did go to some in the early 2000s, back when the main attraction of the event was anime exhibition, and it's weird how people seemed to appreciate a higher variety of anime back then when so little was available. I suppose people who actually are into anime stay home now that so much of it is accessible, while the events became just an excuse for some generic social gathering for slight outcasts, with a tint of a vague common interest. There also seems to be some forced camaraderie, back then people were ruthless and there was no sympathy towards stuff like bad cosplay or "outsiders", like those only aware of the anime that was popular and on TV.


Some insufferable faggot got mad at Lain for being popular now, liked by trannies, and being boring so therefore it's for zoomers and any message the show conveys or fanbase it once had is meaningless and dumb and gay.
>it's weird how people seemed to appreciate a higher variety of anime back then when so little was available
They consumed whatever they could get their hands on. Now that anime has been made available internationally the medium is gentrified and based on fandom rather than the medium as a whole.


lainfags are literally zoomer succubi and trannies it's actually pathetic and they need video essays to understand the anime they use to attentionwhore online as le special snowflake. They like to pretend it's deep when it's irrelevant when the fact of the matter is that it's a shit anime.


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>I'm in my mid-20s, so I'm practically stuck between two worlds
You're not stuck between two worlds zoomer, you are firmly in zoomer territory. Even being generous and you're 27, you're basically on the cusp of Gen Z. I think people born after '91-'93 are basically proto-zoomers anyway.

>I grew up online using the Windows XP (later Vista) family computer.

Windows XP came out in 2001, as the oldest zoomer you would have been around 5. When social media shit *started* to overtake everything and forums and imageboards *started* their decline would be around 2007-8, when you would have been around 12. You were never old enough to appreciate it. Hell, did you have ten dollars to post on a forum?

>because the US Zoomer culture became this instant standard for "global culture" on the Internet.

This is what interests me, because everything is connected and every subculture is basically integrated into the larger overall monoculture being a zoomer+ weeaboo must be incredibly disorientating.

Even though anime seems to have degraded over the years, a lot of it still has that stupid "made for children"/"made for manchildren" essence where characters behave like autistic virgins, especially when it comes to the opposite sex, but it no longer fazes normalfags to the point where they laugh along with it as if a "laugh now" sign appeared. And you wonder what's going through their minds, when 15-20 years ago normalfags would have called it stupid/childish/retarded, rightly or wrongly.

Must be like being an outsider to your own hobby.


>Zoom zoom zoomy! You're a ZOOMER! You're not an X-er or a Y-er like US! You're a whole different generation! An ignoarant little zoombaby zoomerfag zoomtard! Insider Doomerbro? No! Outisder zoomercel!!!!

This is textual soyjack posting. You're not elaborating on some distinct social divide between generations, you're not affirming his perceived unique worldview as being consequential to his birth year. You're just parroting a funny word you read on Reddit and 4Chan that people use to tell young guys that their opinions are different from those of old guys. Such a useless post you've gone and written.
>When social media shit *started* to overtake everything and forums and imageboards *started* their decline would be around
When social hierarchy obsessed, predivided retards like yourself begun to feel at home among us. You ARE the social media shitter when you post about this forced zoomercoomerdoomer garbage.


>zoomer gets angry when you point things out
Like is it that hard for you to understand that your experience is different from a millennial geek? Getting anime in the 90s was difficult, especially if you didn't live next to any speciality stores or weren't part of an anime club. You only got what was super mainstream when normalfags still considered them cartoons as opposed to "anime".

>You ARE the social media shitter when you post about this forced zoomercoomerdoomer garbage.

Do you know where this -oomer shit came from? Gen Z retards who kept calling oldfags boomers on 4chan, so we retorted with zoomer. But gen z is unoriginal kept using -oomer on everything.


Zoomers are genuinely the reason we've had wojak and pepe memes for over a fucking decade.


>angered at the explanation


>4tard troll


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He is what is referred to as an oldfag. Not as fag as they usually are but he still engages in wanting to keep his experiences monopolized by denying early zoomers or whatever succeeding generation the epoch he lived in even if they also lived within the same conditions or a substantial period of it, like late 90s babies browsing web 1.0 websites and going on KissAnime with their Windows XP computer. Only he feels he can do his era justice and that anyone else would dilute or distort it, which is sensible, but safeguards it so wholly that he looks down, belittles, act smugly (smarmily), and disrespects you, never seeing you on equal footing and regarding you as some stupid brat child who doesn't know what they're talking about. It's one of his few sources of pride after all. Don't bother to argue with them. In fact don't bother to argue with anyone on an imageboard who's already set on not liking you or has a strong unshakeable opinion.


The fact that you needed to define "oldfag" for him is utterly representative of how detached zoomers are to old internet and geek things and their understanding of it.

>even if they also lived within the same conditions or a substantial period of it

Substantial? Nigger, the oldest zoomer was roughly 8 years old in 2005 when SA, 4chan, newgrounds, PoE, etc were in their heyday. There were already a ton of new innovations by that point that were taken as standard by zoomers.


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I defined it because oldfag and newfag have been wittled down to just veteran and green user with -fag suffixed to it, forgetting the whole "insufferable faggot" portion of that term and all it entails. Also yes, substantial, that's years of browsing (the waning) free internet assuming they used it regularly or heavily with the earnest televisionization/walled garden/corporatization/whatever you want to call it beginning in 2012/2013 more or less, that's a significant difference compared to what people some years younger than them got to experience. You can call the late 90s births a transitional zeitgeist, the idea of generations and how they're defined are mostly bullshit but are valid because people choose to believe in them even if you disagree with the years. Technological advancement increased exponentially in the time period they were born and growing up and that's more of a defining factor of this "micro-generation" than whatever the fuck sociologists or whoever determines when a generation starts and ends on. Sure, he doesn't know what the fuck pic related is and that people had a limited range on what they could search and having to pay for it too but he experienced a time when 12 websites didn't make up 95% of internet traffic and the mass-formalization of art.


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I'm not going to mention Assassination Classroom anymore (at least in my obsessive ways) as I dont want to be the worst kind of fan possible.
What I will say, if nothing else anymore, is that the creator and I at least share two things:

1. Being a fan of certain characters with a more badass, albeit ooc, spin (in this case a beloved Newgrounds icon).
2. Our affinity towards a mid 10s ditty about goodbyes..


I can’t for the life of me find the manga in question but I’m almost certain it has been mentioned in this thread.
I remember there being a manga posted here where there’s a foreign guy working in the office who people are convinced had mulled someone. I think they went to some golden triangle country and lived there for a while with the MC who talked about starting his own country.
Other than that I only remember a vague comment about how some drink tasted like gasoline.
Again, very faint memory


Foreign guy was blonde btw and had some kind of relationship with a fat lady who he killed I think


For fucks sake guys enough generational arguing. This was a good thread for a while, let's get it back track. Here's some more manga I read:

Ana Satsujin
A guy decides to hang himself but breaks off a hole in his wall. He's able to see his neighbor in the other apartment but notices that she murders people. He then gets involved with her. This one was a really wild ride with a crazy ending.

Mada, Ikiteru
A middle aged salaryman comes home to find his wife wants to divorce him and ruin his life, so he becomes a hermit in the woods. I really like this one since my ultimate goal is to be a hermit like this one day.

Saiteihen no Otoko
This one's about a kid that constantly bullied at school and is a complete loser as well as being a massive pervert. For some weird reason one day the most attractive succubus in school claims their dating but it doesn't make sense for reasons I don't want to spoil.

That's it for now. It's hard to describe these in too much detail without spoiling the story.


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I have finished Fruits Basket (2019)
Yeah, it was wholesome.
33% Hard Fantasy, 33% Comedy, 33% Telenovela from the 90s.
And 1% baka neko xp


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Gegege No Kitaro, Episode 19.
(Though believe me: The real problem is powerlessness, not ignorance
- -..)


Lain may be my last anime for a while, nothing interests me anymore.


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Finally got around to reviewing all of Miyazaki's films from 1979 to 2013.

I'll get to his most recent one once the times take a chill pill, leaving it at that - -.


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I remember the first Hayao Miyazaki film I wanted to see in theaters was Spirited Away. It was surely around 2002, fresh from its Oscar win, but I obviously only ended up seeing it a few years later on DVD. Since then the only Ghibli film I ever really saw in theaters was Secret World of Arriety, which was all right for the most bit. But yeah, pretty much every other Ghibli film I never really saw on the big screen.
Until now.
Sure it was worth it, but let's just say it was (ridiculously) almost as hard to access as the original Nosferatu last year, and that one was in the public domain (I technically had to sneek in despite at least REMEMBERING the code for the prepaid ticket I nearly lost access to). But I watched it, and so did millions of other people, so I'm sure a tiny percentage of them can give you a better opinion on it than I can (ESPECIALLY now that I've seen every Miyazaki film ever). What I can certainly say, however, is that watching one of his films for the first time on a larger screen leaves the kind of impression you'll probably never feel again even if you have a TV that takes up a width of your walls. Part Moebius, Part Tolkien light, part Pan's Labyrinth, there was even a scene involving a church-like interior which stretched a dozen stories high that had that classicly epic pre-Y2K aura which gives you a special kind of nostalgia that is harder to find nowadays. The rest of the film, however, is meh-ish compared to Miyazaki's more epic masterpieces. It has its moments, but at its best, it's as if the witch that cursed Porco Rosso cursed another guy into an egret and is essentially your guide to a cinematic greatest Miyazaki hits collection.
So I can see why some have had mixed opinions, but in a post-Made in Abyss world, I'd still say Miyazaki still had enough tricks up his sleeve to fill at least another film if not one more. And who knows, maybe time will allow us all to digest it a little better as has been the case with his previous works.


okay, and? do you dislike it yourself? Isn’t that more important?


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>pre-Y2K aura which gives you a special kind of nostalgia that is harder to find nowadays.

I hope you're not talking about a zoomer's impression of pre-Y2K nostalgia.


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Not really, I just mean that heavily creative aesthetic that breathes all kinds of life, detail, imagination, blah blah blah, on the animation and its mise-en-scene, as though the artist was inspired on too many levels to mention and wanted others to see that inspiration too.

But I'm old.
When I googled "50s animated movie backgrounds" I just got stuff from Disney or other USA related junk, instead of stuff from films like Johnny the giant killer or even Animal Farm.

Go figure.


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>When I googled "50s animated movie backgrounds" I just got stuff from Disney or other USA related junk, instead of stuff from films like Johnny the giant killer or even Animal Farm.
That is just google and most other search engines just sucking IMMENSELY for last 5-7 years? I can't remember exactly when google or any search engine was decent for that matter.

>Go figure.

It's intentional.

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