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>>315527
pussy too much puffy

>>315528
Impossible

i won’t become catholic just cause they have a cute loli mascot. might work on some zoomers tho.

>>315531
Someone could make a thread about sand and some retard wlll always be there to say "Well unlike me, ZOOMERS only like fine sand"

Seems fucking stupid and like they are chasing modern trends instead of being the bedrock of the faithful.
They should be aiming to have the feel of a timeless institution that is more grand then worldly trends. Instead they are chasing trends and being more and more of the world.

Disgusting.

>>315521
Why is wizchan giving a shit on what satanic heretic hypocrites of the Kali Yuga are putting in their desks for entertaining purposes?

>>315541
Because she cute

>>315540
I'm not. her puffy pussy looks good playing with it

>>315541
We're all men, many of us are from Catholic families, and the point of the site is to talk about things. What are you missing?

>>315541
it's a pedophile thing

>>315541
It's being posted to every single imageboard site for some reason. I suspect astroturfing might be at play.

>>315547
being a religious pedophilic conservative is the current cool trend with online zoomer kids, so when some church releases a new little succubus anime mascot it makes sense theyll all be talking about it

>>315549
It sounds like you are just stringing a bunch of insults and groups you don't like together like doing so holds explanatory power.
What next blame the jews, fags, and niggers?

>>315551
just look at 4chan dude, that's literally what they like and that why this creation is so popular

>>315555
>I am still disgusted about how many sheeple is not even questioning Catholic church when they obviously live so luxuriously while saying the camel-through-nails-hole thingy. It must some sort of collective psychopathy that drives them to support such scourge.
As individuals they take oaths of poverty and don't personally own any riches.
All that wealth is held collectively by the church as a organization.

>>315555
>Shut up, we all know what's wrong with all those to even mention them.
Appealing to a nonexistent collective doesn't make what was said any less asinine.
So no, I will not shut up.
Make better arguments than namecalling.

>>315555
we need to bring back atheism, unironically so. Most of the keyed redpid people from 2017 were social darwinists and evopsych types and none of this self defeating we-need-the-based-christians stuff ever applied then. It is a mind shackle that doesn't add value to the equation because the bible fundamentally is not a revolutionary text

Don't care considering that modern-day internet artists fetishize everything that they get their hands on.

>>315607
I highly doubt porn of this character exists.

>>315607
I remember when rule 34 was just a joke.

>>315607
that was their plan

>>315607
the reason overwatch is popular is exclusively because of the porn. It is really ridiculous

i'm suddenly interested in catholicism, where do i start?

>>315539
Precious Moments soul vs Vatican AI generated soulless slop

>>315521
god will be killing us all very soon

>>315521
>thoughts
10 years late to the funko pop craze

Someone made a meme cryptocoin based on her. It shot up like 20x its worth when the poop died. If you bought 1,000,000 when it was at its lowest point, you'd have pretty much turned $1.20 in to $20. NEETbros…

i like it

>Leo XIV
>an Americuck
>from Chicago
Sede Vacante.

>>319330
I wanted a black guy to be the pope. Would have pissed off so many people.

>>319333
Personally I find it just as funny to see an American pope.

>>319333
Same. I dislike them in general, but somehow believe they are more serious about religion than whites.
Feels like the US CIA plant is just a puppet.

>>319379
>but somehow believe they are more serious about religion than whites
Nah, in Africa the catholic church is struggling with abolishing polygamy among christian males. So in Africa polygamy is an accepted part of catholicism. That tells you how serious black people are about religion's actual teachings that deal with morality. I guess they can be considered more superstitious than whites and more willing to believe in spiritualism and all that. But when it comes to actual every day teachings they would need to adhere to they fail at that. But I don't look down on them for this, to tell the truth christianity has some really high, absurdly high moral requirements that only a few people adhere to completely.

>>319334
My 1st impression of him was that I've seen him in some porn video some time ago. Of course it is very likely I'm wrong but Pope Leo gives me some porn actor vibes.

>>319380
>christianity has some really high, absurdly high moral requirements that only a few people adhere to completely.
Only reason I'm not Christian is that jerking off is a deadly sin or grave sin or whatever and I'd have to confess it weekly.
Which also means I have no intention to stop sinning.
As a result, can't be Christian. I guess it would be okay to try and fail, but not having any intention of trying is probably a deal-breaker.

Forgiveness is also something I would struggle with, and reconnecting with a parent I cut off. Which would be expected of me as well.
I'm sure it works for some, but in reality even the most devout Christians I knew were willing sinners.

>>319381
Is it still a sin if it's more of a spiritual masturbation session with your waifu?

>>319382
Probably as it is still lustful.
I wouldn't know for sure though.

>>319383
She is my WIFE

>>315521
I think Christianity is a mental disease that needs to be eradicated together with all the other worthless religions like islam, judaism, hinduism etc.

>>319384
I guess if you are schizo enough you might get a pass.

>>319392
>judaism
Wizbro we are all just NPCs in a jewish world. The rest, sure. They are just frameworks to empower the jewish servitor they spoke into existence with the Torah in the great beyond.

>>319381
I was raised to be catholic, I still pretend to be a believer because I live with my family and my father would be extremely disappointed to learn that I stopped giving a shit about religion a long time ago. My "religious life" consists of me going to church on Sundays and other important times with my family. But I never pray at home or even try to adhere to the moral laws. What broke me off from religion was, like in your case, masturbation. The Church's whole teaching about sexuality is just pure nonsense and in stark contrast with human nature.

>I'd have to confess it weekly
That's literally what they want you to do. To feel guilty about yourself for doing something completely natural. Otherwise, if you felt good about yourself then why would you need a spiritual guru? Religions are really the worst kind of scams in this world. They want you to hate yourself so that you go on seeking "forgiveness", which of course is given only by them. They want you to hate this life completely so that you go to them because of their promise of Heaven. It's a really complex system devised to lure the weakest people to them and to chain these people to them forever. It's incredible how much brainwashing is possible thanks to religions. I absolutely grew to hate priests, churches and gurus of all kinds.

>>319392
Absolutely true. Christianity ruined my life, it made me a depressed shell of a human being in my teens because of all the guilt I felt and all the pity I nurtured in myself towards everything suffering. Christianity is only good for creating miserable people. Again like I said, Christianity prospers thanks to misery. It's declining in the civilized West nowadays because people are living much better lives than it was possible in the past. Without suffering, Christianity has no reason to exist. So it preaches laws and morals no one can adhere to, it places unreachable ideals before the people and then when the people ofc fail to live up to these big expectations they get told it's because they are dirty sinners. It's a diabolical cycle. Really makes you think that the devil himself came up with this shit.

>>319395
You describe why I'm apprehensive really well.
One thing that draws me to them is the supposed social net Christianity provides.
There are a lot of support religious organizations give to the needy.
This appeals to me because as a wizard I might one day stumble and it would be nice not starving under a bridge, but having a soup kitchen to go to or something.

It's like an artificial network for the outcasts. Though I don't believe I'd fit in or manage to earn any benefits of it as I am.
So this is likely just fantasy.

As for religions in general. I like taoism/daoism as it seems to be the most realistic.
It gives hope and comfort to the fallen in a different sort of way. It's a good kind of cope without any of the guilt and fears.

>It's declining in the civilized West nowadays because people are living much better lives than it was possible in the past.
I've read people say that it also is unfit for the victors if that makes any sense.
Christian nations conquered the world at some point, but a religion of the meek just doesn't fit with that kind of society.
I firmly believe this is part of why we are seeing great western nations falling.
I do hope this was not getting too political, I did not mean to make it so.

>>319380
"Christianity is not a religion for the masses, let alone for all. Cultivated by few and translated into deeds, it is one of the most splendid blossoms that can grow in the soul of a good man." -Joseph Goebbels

Are you sure it's not just your coomerism?
>>319395
They got you early in the cradle, and Catholic guilt never goes away - you'll always be culturally Catholic.

>>319401
>Goebbels
Nazis didn't particularly like Christianity either, quotes like that were just used for propaganda purposes because well, most of the people were christians. Christianity is completely at odds with nazism on pretty much everything. I mean the Savior of the religion is a jew, for God's sake. I know about the ""theories"" nazis came up with, like how Jesus was supposedly aryan or the son of some roman soldier and yeah, that was just some weak effort again to gain sympathizers among the conservative population.

But I'm not a nazi so this is irrelevant.
>coomerism
Is much better than being a depressed, sexually frustrated loser who has wet dreams. People should just accept that sexuality in one way or another is a part of life. Just jerk off and go on with your daily business instead of taking cold showers and whipping yourself.

>They got you early in the cradle, and Catholic guilt never goes away - you'll always be culturally Catholic.
Well, I don't have the guilt anymore but maybe the last part is true. People are defined by their early education and upbringing to a huge degree.

>>319396
You can be an atheist or taoist or whatever you want and still use christian charity for your own benefit. You think all the homeless guys that accept gifts and charity from christian social workers are believers? lol no

>Christian nations conquered the world at some point, but a religion of the meek just doesn't fit with that kind of society.
If Christianity was taken seriously by those nations then they would never have attempted to conquer the world. What people refer to as the christian era of the west has mostly nothing to do with actual christianity. A true, proper christian society simply wouldn't survive in the long run. You can't build a society around the principle of "do to others as you want them to do to you" or "love your enemies". Christianity is the complete opposite of what a healthy society is.

>>319411
That quote was from the 1920s. Goebbels was an intellectual type that slavishly devoted himself to Hitler. Most Nazis weren't fans of Christianity, but there were some that were. I mean regular Nazis not the SS. Himmler was inspired by the Jesuits.
>>319411
According to Christians, homeless people exist to test the spirit of giving.

>>319415
As a non-nazi I still say that the natural religion of the white man is paganism, not christianity. I will go further and say that "paganism" is the only kind of religion that I consider to be acceptable. Christianity, Buddhism and Jainism are at the lowest level of religions. Islam and Hinduism are more honest and down-to-earth somewhat. But still, I think some kind of paganism is the only way to go. Atheism or science-worship sounds boring. I'm currently a believer in non-christian monotheism. I think there is a God but he doesn't care about morality and just does whatever he wants. God is beyond good and evil.

>>319420
Pagan gods often have localized names that refer to natural phenomenon that happen everywhere in the universe like thunder, rain or wind.

They are literally magic explanations for simpleton dumbfucks who were too primitive to understand there was no supernatural entity creating these.

And you can't blame bronze age people for believing so, but you can and should ridicule someone equipped with 21st century knowledge
who still voluntarily believes rain is Zeus pissing on the ground or thunderstorms are Odin smashing Mjölnir on an anvil in the sky.

I mean, go ham. Feel free to believe in whatever tickles
your fancy. But deep down you know it's a fable fabricated for tribal primitives, who had no scientific knowledge of the mechanisms that create visual phenomena like weather events around us. It was a weak cope and attempt at feeling in control by "knowing" a magic invisible entity was responsible.

>>319423
That was meant to be Thor. But at least he makes for an entertaining Marvel character and movie hero, so something good has come out of paganism.

>>319422
The scientific world-view gets ridiculed by scientists themselves again and again. People come up with new theories all the time and this will never stop. It's because science isn't about objectivity. Objectivity is something impossible that can't be reached, everyone is biased and led astray by their own perceptions and what they want to perceive.

Might as well believe in Wotan or Zeus, at least that's fun in its own way. Letting yourself blindly to be led around by lab-coated priests isn't.

>>319448
No, theories self correcting through new better evidence isn't ridicule. It's how you get to live in a safely engineered home and how you get to use computers and smartphones for a very cheap price. Scientific theories that turned out true.

>>319424
>But at least he makes for an entertaining Marvel character and movie hero,
"Marvel" movies are anti-White denigrations of European culture and total irreverence of sacred European Gods. Liking these garbage films (that are made for literal nigger babies) is pathetic.

>>319497
Believing a bearded swedish guy up in the sky creating thunderstorms is sacred is just as childish as african tribals believing their coked up ooga-booga witch doctor can prevent a spoiled harvest by dancing and chanting stupid shit to their local "gods".

The only thing that differs is the geographical location.

>>319496
So you just use the word "self-correction" instead. But if the basics of science turn out to be false then how can you build on those basics? Science is self-contradictory, face it. There are no rules and laws in this world.

Also obviously you aren't familiar with high level science. Physics for example at high level basically just turns into philosophy and abstract word plays. This is how much science is worth. It's just another safe pillar for people who desperately want to believe in something.

>>319500

I think a lot of people created a belief system around science. I think this belief system is instilled in children and young adults through education, and is pretty hard to shake until a person had enough experience in the real world away from our social structures. Science in itself requires no belief, it is literally just nothing more than a methodology to test our current understanding.

You are right there is nothing to believe in and having any belief about anything is just a delusion, really. Someone wrote an entire book on this called "the grand delusion"

>>319501
>You are right there is nothing to believe in and having any belief about anything is just a delusion, really.
That's why you make up your own reality. Which is basically what everyone is doing already but in our case we are at least conscious of it. Build your own inner world, character, spirit, philosophy for yourself. You can believe whatever you want. There is no ""objectivity"" or ""truth"" anywhere. Disconnect from the world, society and others. Embrace solipsism.

>>315521
> succubus
That's not a succubus and if you think it is, there is something seriously wrong with you.

>>319505
how can you tell it's not a female?
the moe mascot has not distinguishing features
since it's moe, I would assume it's female

actually I find it gay and creepy to create a male moe character

>>319505
All of the official promotional material and even the first announcement refer to Luce with effeminate pronouns and use other language only appropriate when talking about females.

You are gay.

>>319508
Feminine does not equal succubus.
Read up the term.

Luce is actually a 50 year old man despite looking feminine and young

>>319511
Yes it does you LGBTQ creep

>>319500
Gravity is only a scientific theory too. Try ignoring it and flying out of your window for Darwin prize of the year.

>>319515
> LGBTQ creep
Wut
> Yes it does
> an imaginary demon assuming female form and formerly held to have sexual intercourse with men in their sleep compare incubus sense 1.

> Succubus
A succubus is a female demon who is described in various folklore as appearing in the dreams of male humans in order to seduce them. Repeated interactions between a succubus and a man will lead to sexual activity, a bond forming between them, and ultimately sexual intercourse, as she requires semen to survive.

> incubus, demon in male form that seeks to have sexual intercourse with sleeping succubi; the corresponding spirit in female form is called a succubus.

>>319519
I knew someone would bring this up. But how do you know that gravity won't just disappear one day? Maybe you wake up tomorrow and for no apparent reason gravity doesn't exist anymore, the scientific "absolute" rules don't apply anymore. What then? Will your brain go full meltdown?

>>319519
i have been able to fly in a dream, and there is no way to know when we are in a dream or not

>>319528
No, then the theory of gravity gets amended based on the new evidence, dumbass. There is no such thing as an absolute theory.

There is only the best testable theory in the current moment, on which all of modern medicine, electronics and science is based on.

When we find evidence things can be done smarter or better (like the best way to rapidly calculate billions of integer and bit rotations not being silicon chips but quantum computers), that theory gets adapted.

All these testable theories which work in practice are infinitely more convincing than the argument of an invisible sky fairy arranging everything because a jewish book said so.

>>319574
Indeed 'all models are wrong, but some are useful'. But your last sentence is stupid since it has very little to do with religion. Observing 'how' stuff moves around might disprove some religious claims, but it's never going to explain questions at philosophical levels or theological levels

>>319515
Don't make me cast rainbow on your ass.

>>319521
Oh, you're just an outsider trying to undermine Wizchan's culture and wordfilter while softly pushing the "no specified gender" freakshow argument.

>>319574
So you acknowledge that science is just theories, nothing more? Thank you. That's basically what I've been saying too.

>All these testable theories which work in practice are infinitely more convincing than the argument of an invisible sky fairy arranging everything because a jewish book said so.
1. I didn't argue in defense of any jewish book, like I said I prefer paganism.
2. Still, you didn't test or check any of those theories yourself. You are just parroting what you learned in some schoolbook about how things supposedly work. For all we can know it's just pure bullshit. You are taking things for granted based on the word of some white-coated scientist-priests. That's no different from religion at all.

>>319593
Not that poster, but I'll respond as a science major. Modern scientific theories (when you exclude very hard to verify subjects like dark matter and black hole intricacies) are by and large facts.

The terminology in science doesn't allow anything (not even with proven mathematical and physical equations behind it) to be called anything else than a model or theory.
Even very mundane everyday items you consume like SSRI medication go through decades of trial and error until we finally land on a theory that proves how the medication binds to serotonin receptors and causes a chemical reaction that ultimately reduces depressive symptoms.

Given how advanced science has gotten especially in the last 2 decades, it being called a theory is just a very nerdy way of saying "this is how it works and we have 260,000 pages of evidence and 15000 double blind peer reviewed studies with tens of millions of randomized participants to back it up".

>>319595
Of course the science major is defending his religion. I'm not even surprised at this, it's like a Christian defending his faith online.

But again, you verified any of this personally, YOURSELF? Or are you just repeating what you learned in some book that was handed down to you? If you didn't cross-examine and check every supposed fact for yourself then you are just going by faith. Again, no different from religious people. You are letting yourself be influenced by others and take what they say or write for granted. Science and religion really aren't opposed to each other, they are two different sides of the same coin.

>>319596
They are not the same coin at all. Religion relies purely on personal faith. Science relies on repeating an experiment millions of times until you get the same result so many times you can present the model to a university or pharma company as a fact.

Do you want to put a medication in your mouth some random weed smoker "has faith in" versus one that has been scientifically demonstrated on millions of people to work on whatever ailment you have?

In terms of credibility and value, if we keep using coin metaphors, the scientific theory is like a solid platinum gold eagle, and "hope" is like a maggot infested wooden penny.
In other words, "hoping" something works with absolutely no experiments or research behind it is worth nothing.

>>319597
It's ironic that this entire post was based on your blind faith in science. You didn't examine yourself and verify yourself everything that science claims as truth. So again, you are just speaking on faith alone.

>you can present the model to a university or pharma company as a fact
That's about selling yourself basically. There are charlatans going around from house to house selling their magic potions and they can convince others to buy their shit. That doesn't mean they are telling the truth necessarily. Same case here. Just because you are able to convince others of your truth doesn't mean you are right automatically.

>Do you want to put a medication in your mouth some random weed smoker "has faith in" versus one that has been scientifically demonstrated on millions of people to work on whatever ailment you have?
Honestly, depends on the circumstances but generally I would avoid both of them. The "random weed smoker" may actually give a better medication than your official high priests aka scientists. Let's not pretend that science is perfect, there are millions of people who have been ruined thanks to imperfect scientific methods and technology. I'm not talking about cases when science is clearly aimed at causing suffering like in the case of weapons but when science is supposed to help you. ""Official"" methods, medicines and technology often end up having negative side effects instead of helping as intended.
You keep referring to authority (scientists and experts told so!), to simple numbers (demonstrated on millions of people!!) but neither of these mean anything at the end. Truth isn't based on how many people believe in something or how high the status of the person is who claims something. You can be prof dr dr super brain and yet still lie intentionally or unintentionally make errors. How do you know that the Moon exists at all? Were you ever there? How do you know that it's not just a lie invented by your scientist aristocrats to manipulate the people into believing something that is suited for their agenda? You can never convince me to take everything science claims as truth for granted. I didn't personally investigate and check any of those claims so I would be a retard to just believe them without hesitation.

If you are still the science major then I know this is kind of pointless to argue about. Because you are literally defending your livelihood here. It's like having a conversation with a psychologist about how much of a trick psychology is or about a philosopher about how much bullshit philosophy is. Of course you will defend science and I can't blame you for it. But don't expect others to just eat up everything without any questioning. To me science and religion are the same, they are tools of the status quo. As long as people still cling to this retarded obsession with finding the "single universal truth" and objectivity, civilization and humanity can't progress at all. We should just accept already that truth is fucking subjective, just like everything else is in this world. There are no big truths or objective facts. There are no rules. Everything is based on how someone perceives the world and that differs from person to person. The religious leader or the high ranking scientist both just want to oppress others and force their own world-conception onto everyone else. Religion, philosophy, science, morals, it is all crap. Human knowledge isn't worth anything and people who pretend it is are like children who like the smell of their own farts.

>>319595
i did a science degree too but have come to realise it is all much more shaky then the professors let on. Most papers are absolute dogshit. Especially when it comes to pharma, there are conflicts of interest, blatant corruption and bullshit data analysis everywhere. The quality of science has collapsed and professors are just trying to churn out papers as fast as they can with total disregard of quality. If they get uninteresting or weak results they are pressured so much they have no choice but to try to spin it as something worthy of publishing and citing

>>319608
youre just being contrarian to that poster on purpose. in reality you accept all the fruits of science in your life because without them in your natural state, you'd have died at like age 11 to some stupid disease like polio or typhoid fever, or food poisoning.

>>319622
You completely misunderstood me either on purpose or unintentionally. I'm not talking about living life in nature without technology ala Unabomber. It's not contrary to my position to accept the "fruits of science" as you say it. My point is that you shouldn't idealize science and shouldn't let it be the compass of your life and worldviews. Many people just take everything scientists say for granted and that's not different from believing some guru or priest and this kind of blind faith just leads to more retarded people walking this Earth. Essentially only creates followers and sheep who are reliant on a small minority of "aristocrats" who are always "right" in everything. Just like how the pope is supposedly always right in important things…

>youre just being contrarian
And you are just stating the mainstream opinion of the status quo. You deserve a medal for behaving in a socially accepted way.