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I don't have a problem with any of this!

Then you'll get a chip that will force you to obey and it will be like the Book or Revelation predicted

I'm completely demoralized. I don't want to doompost but things are looking bleak. Dark times aproach.

>>320929
Just dont use youtube. You have bilibili, you have nicovideo. Youtube has been dying for a long time. Better yet, set your vpn to a country that youtube doesn't monetize (like afganistan or sum shit)

>>320935
They will ban all that and fine platforms if they do not comply

>>320929
Fake and gay etc

>>320937
>Fake and gay etc
Speak about yourself etc

>>320933
>I'm completely demoralized. I don't want to doompost but things are looking bleak. Dark times aproach.
I heard everyone is setting their profile to clippy to protest.

>>320933
Kind of interesting that whenever I get news of anything (whether real life or personal) it's something horrible and/or depressing. It's statistically unusual.

>>320943
>everyone is setting their profile to clippy to protest.
One far-left E-celeb who advocates for government censorship for ideologies he doesn't agree with told the non-bot members of his audience to set their profil pictures to clippy, and some of them did in hopes of getting his attention in his videos' comment sections.

>>320933
Things have been bad for hundreds of years. Tho in the past times, the veneer of the theater of international politics was maintained by far more discreet and intelligent jews, preventing you from seeing the darkness of recent history and reality. Keep a calm brain and logically work your way through whatever may be coming. (((They))) have gone essentially unopposed since the defeat of the League of Cambrai, and we are requiting the debt for that political negligence right now.

>>320945
>"far left"
You're a faggot antithesis that will bring about the synthesis because you think in terms of red jew and blue jew.

Good. All of this anonymity is a cancer that continues to metastasize

>>320945
>One far-left E-celeb
>>320951
>Good. All of this anonymity is a cancer that continues to metastasize
Great, pro-surveillance trolls. They've already won.

All power will be centralized and then the inevitable enshittification will begin leading us all to Hell.

Time to be a monk.

>>320952
Nothing is stopping you from hosting your own server.

>>320929
This is why I've been mass downloading all media I like and saving them on local harddrives. Whenever a required digital ID will happen I will just happily continue re watching/listening/playing all the same shit I've enjoyed my entire life.

the privacy schizos were right after all, now is time to go full privacy schizo, any good guides?

>>320956
I use ChatGPT for full airgapping. Use it while it still works, they're gonna make learning about technology illegal very soon.

Nearly every commercial website since 1997 has been operating under an explicitly illegal business model. This is because most websites have allowed or even encouraged minors to interact with the site in ways that yield personal information to data harvesting sponsors, which sponsors are not legally allowed to harvest said data in the case of under-14 minors. Most sites have explicitly refused to require or authenticate the ages of casual browsers and most data harvesters are fully capable of fingerprint identification and behavior tracking without compliance to COPPA. The regulatory changes being undertaken are matters of providing the existing regulations such as COPPA with enforceability, with teeth. Regulators are aware of how much most commercial websites and web corporations have gotten away with and presumably want to upturn the precedent of the state simply turning a blind eye to the exploitation of minors that sites like Google esp. Youtube have gotten away with thus far.

Paid adult sites are a rare exception to the rule of commercial sites blatantly violating COPPA, not because they do not harvest data but because most of them already require an account with payment info tied to it to gain access. Free adult sites have historically obeyed COPPA as written by virtue of requiring explicit age-affirmation and consent in an "I am over 18" notice, but most people do roll their eyes at the effectiveness of such when it comes to adolescent boys. Porn-of-adults is possibly the single most ethical online business at present, certainly moreso than Instagram or YouTube which explicitly maintain policies to commercialize the mental and emotional distress of pubescent morons and femoids.

Non-commercial or partly-commercial websites such as forums and imageboards are in a strange place. I do not believe most imageboards commercialize data collection and so would not be inherently in violation of COPPA, but a lot of the fedposter honeypots geared towards trafficking illegal forms of pornography DO harvest data and - funny story - a lot of the males who want to see the bodies of underage females are themselves also underage. A 13 year old boy is very likely to want to sexualize a 13 year old peer. So the feds in addition to violating distribution laws are also violating COPPA when tracking users.

>>320960
>femoids.

WTF?

>>320968
Used descriptively to refer to female-shaped individuals since gen-z gen-alpha male chromosomed individuals are now reshaping themselves to female bodyforms which can be subjected to targeted advertisement involving female-oriented cosmetic products. Example: youtube celebrity "finnster" applying a bucket of makeup to his face.

>>320969
>Used descriptively to refer to female-shaped individuals since gen-z gen-alpha male chromosomed individuals are now reshaping themselves to female bodyforms which can be subjected to targeted advertisement involving female-oriented cosmetic products. Example: youtube celebrity "finnster" applying a bucket of makeup to his face.
I would love to see this meaning of the word to be mainstreamed instead of the current one.

It's all chromosome inclusive too.

>>320960
>explicitly illegal business model
By what countries law? Some European prison island where waving that nation's flag is considered extremist behavior?

>>320971
>The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 (COPPA) is a United States federal law, located at 15 U.S.C. §§ 6501–6506 (Pub. L. 105–277 (text) (PDF), 112 Stat. 2681-728, enacted October 21, 1998).

>Although children under 13 can legally give out personal information with their parents' permission, many websites—particularly social media sites, but also other sites that collect most personal info—disallow children under 13 from using their services altogether due to the cost and work involved in complying with the law.[3][4][5]

Now, here's the funny thing: for several decades, Facebook's business model wasn't based around the accounts of people who signed up for Facebook. Facebook's business model was based around monetizing the personal information harvested from FACEBOOK LIKE BUTTONS EMBEDDED ON NON-FACEBOOK PAGES all over the internet. Every single fucking newsblog or personal website that had a like button embedded. That's a LOT of minors whose data was illegally harvested by Facebook despite Facebook's official stance on disallowing under-14s from starting facebook accounts. And when the United States Congress had the opportunity to hold Facebook to account for decades of illegal monetization of minors' personal data in defiance of COPPA, they… asked Zuck about how Facebook funds itself, and Zuck said "Senator, we run ads."

I actually have the opposite view to the general consensus in this thread. I think the internet isn't becoming more totalitarian and centralized, I actually think it's becoming more decentralized and similar to the 1990s internet. I think the standards for enforcement will be dropped and big tech will stop giving a fuck about removing abhorrent shit.

In the third world, and even in second world countries like Russia. Things like CSAM laws aren't really enforced online. Now what's happening as the internet becomes majority third world, is big tech platforms, like Instagram, Twitter, etc, are just leaning into third world behaviors, standards and habits. Western countries can no longer dictate the standard as they're now a relatively smaller market.

Elon buying twitter only brought the general trajectory of twitter 2 years forward. Instagram and all the other platforms are now racist central, and facebook in their reels have apparently had CSAM for years and done nothing about it. Western progressives are now having to hide on their own websites, like on Bluesky. Why are they having to hide? Because western tech companies now reflect the will of the global majority.

The whole thing about the British child safety law that's going on at the moment isn't entirely some cynical powergrab. It may be that in part, but I genuinely believe western countries are seeing big tech basically tell them that racism and child sexualization will be on their platforms, and to deal with it. What can they actually do as a western country? You can't ask them to censor it, because they'll move their servers to Uzbekistan or Thailand or wherever. Westerners will visit their site with a VPN anyway, so it's not like you'll lose significant numbers. In 2009 having your website cut off from France would be 10% of your audience, now it's maybe 2%.

My big prediction is that in ten years time you'll have open sexualization of children on the global clearnet. It'll very quickly and rapidly become normalized. We seen the most abhorrent racism become normalzied on facebook and instagram in the space of what, two years? It's not a far stretch to say this next cultural change is coming.

>>320929
This thread got compromised so yeah, it'll be surveillance and AI micromanagement.

The sites that matter are those like social media and banking
Social media push narrative and ogather data from normies, without banking sites or apps you won't be able to buy or sell anything. Every website now offers you registering a Google account integration for "convenience". These are getting connected and will be centralized in a one big database scanned by ai and we're fucked. Getting indawoods, not traceable money also will be illegal. Everything is clearly going in one direction

My anger at the moment is in how the requirement of age verification is being described and sold to the public.

Every large web platform monetizes children despite US federal law, and they all occasionally get slap-on-the-wrist fines for it e.g. YouTube's 170 million dollar COPPA violation case, Epic Games' 500 million dollar case where 250 million were dedicated to refunds of minors making ill informed purchases from targeted ads. Okay.

But what's being sold to us is the idea that it is the end users or dedicated porn sites which are doing all of the dangerous exploitation of minors. It is blatantly incorrect in the case of the porn sites. The bad actors who are using the lure of porn to draw minors are not the porn sites, they are the porn actresses, frequently independent self employed OnlyFans thots who are intentionally grooming minors on sites like Twitch. Because they are liberated and independent womyn and therefore lack conscience. There are much rarer and more occasional instances of male adults grooming minors online but demographically, 100% of OnlyFans succubi groom minors over Twitch and other casual engagement platforms and about 10% of succubi under 30 have an OnlyFans account. I can goddamned guarantee that the demographic volume of men who try to groom minors online is much goddamned lower than 10%. But because 10% of females under 30 are "content creators" on OnlyFans, the percentage of succubi who groom minors must and can only be higher than 10%. OF doesn't instruct its users in "how to succeed at OnlyFans" with offplatform grooming and even if it did they would not say to target minors who do not have disposable income since that's retarded and pursuing that idiotic strategy is why almost every twitch pedothot fails to secure an income on OF. It is simply the nature of succubi to attempt to use connection to children to secure income, food, resources, and to be ruthless and remorseless in that pursuit. The argument that OnlyFans has been bad for society is the argument to repeal the 19th Amendment of the US Constitution.

Still, solutions needed. Okay. succubi as a demographic are constantly grooming underage boys in order to get money out of them while lacking any genuine sexual interest in said minors-they are solely financially motivated, and not at all sexually motivated, and since that financial motivation is bottomless and there is no level of financial security that will stop a succubus from shoplifting much less from financially exploitative pseudoseduction this cannot be stopped with basic income or social programs. There is not one single millionaire OF harlot who stopped taking children's lunch money after becoming a millionaire. That is a problem and the real solutions of the demographic scale reduction in liberty for all females forever is currently politically infeasible. The damage can be minimized by age verification on the social media sites such as twitter and twitch which are used by these harlots as their advertisement bases. Fine. But stop fucking telling me that the reason we need real ID on twitch is to somehow prevent 30 year old men from talking to 16 year olds when that isn't even something that this real ID system is geared to goddamn deal with. It's JUST going to stop whores from getting daddy's credit card from 12 year old Johnny. Which, I don't think Johnny's mommy would object to seeing! NOBODY LOVES THESE WHORES. NOT MOTHERS, NOT WIVES, NOT VOTERS, NOT EVEN OTHER WHORES WHO ALL LIE TO THEMSELVES ABOUT NOT BEING THE SORT OF WHORE WHO SEDUCES CHILDREN FOR MONEY. Rich whore, poor whore, no difference. So WHY God WHY do these educated politicians think that there's some DIRE NEED to paint over the demographic collapse level problem of 10% of adult succubi looking to Twitch's 9-14 year old Roblox userbase with Fortnite and Roblox centered access to their daddy's credit card as their financial security? Why can't they just be honest about Twitch's age gate having failed its core duty to act as Thot Police? Why the FUCK can't we just say it is wrong for whores to steal from children and that real ID on Twitter and Twitch would solve 90% of that? Why instead are we presented with an issue that real ID won't and can't fucking solve?

And yeah, that's not the limit of where the issue is. YouTube's been exploiting children since the first Family Channels were created, it is extremely arguable that being child youtube stars engendered serious personality problems in Jake and Logan Paul, and youtube kids has not stemmed the tide of monetization of the telemetry data generated by children in illegal ways even after Youtube's bled more than two hundred million in COPPA violations. 'kay. Why the FUCK are we being told that END USERS are the problem instead of YouTube's inability or unwillingness to move to a business model that doesn't enable tracking and telemetry of unregistered users by default? Their violations of the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act would stop, immediately, if they weren't trying to violate everyone else's privacy at all times, and were instead to only and exclusively violate the privacy of people with youtube accounts who opt in to being violated by making said accounts.

I just want these politicians to admit that it is Facebook, Twitter, Google, Microsoft and the Thots who cannot be legally allowed within 500 clicks of a school and who have been given too much slack for far too long. I am exhausted with the perpetual refrain of "the Internet's been the Wild West" when ever heavier chains and boots are placed about the necks of end users.

Spooks have failed to take down Tor or exploit it in a meaningful way. Be the change you want to see if the new internet is too oppressive for you and host services on Tor for people to use.

PGP is the gold standard for encrypted messages and it can be used on any platform where you send text.

Monero is the best crypto currency in use at the moment and you can purchase a lot of things with it.

In my opinion, you basically need a carefully groomed government/irl identity that is entirely separate from anything else you do. That can be achieved with a cheap phone and SIM.

>>320982
>My anger at the moment is in how the requirement of age verification is being described and sold to the public.
It's got nothing to do with safety, it's political.

>>320960
>>320969
>>320972
>>320973
>>320982

What do you think about centralization of power, totalitarian micromanagement and one man rule in general?

>>320955
This. But the internet is not just for media, it's also for updated information and for interaction, so that's not good enough.
>>320983
This is also true, but I'm afraid that it's just for the time being. I'm not 100% sure on the technical workings of, say, Tor and Monero, but they could just make these technologies illegal altogether because "do you have anything to hide, terrorist?". ISPs worldwide could even start operating on a "whitelist" model rather than a "blacklist" one, so ONLY "approved" (compromised) websites would be allowed. Or maybe they would enforce Cloudlfare usage for all websites, or only allow "approved" VPSs to operate, or whatever bullshit of that sort. And if they saw you exchanging weird (PGP) encrypted-looking messages on an "allowed" website they'd suspect you for being a terrorist too or whatever.
As long as they control the physical wires that make up the internet, we're not safe.
I'm not super pessimistic, so maybe there will still be ways of accessing a "free internet" without getting in trouble. But it would have to be technically difficult to set up and access, so 99.999% of people wouldn't bother, which is good enough for the elites.

>>320929
Guess I'll just finally get off the internet completely and get a library card

>>321010
Books and libraries are easier to manipulate than the internet, bucko. Enjoy reading government propaganda.

A few sites have stopped serving the UK now.

I'm getting blocked by cloudfare.

they even push the though Internet as a mean to chat in strangers was NOT a good idea in the first place.

>>321011
spamming a fuckton…

…heh, Spamton…


…of human-like, lifelike booshi is a possibility now.

Back in 2010s we could, at least, shit at each other on Krautchan or 4chan or somewhere else. It was *vernacular*, yet everyone kinda knew for sure - VERNACULAR fella being VERNACULAR at each other, on tap, unfiltered, punk subculture style

>>321046
>VERNACULAR fella

*fellas

The internet is over. Roll end credits.

>>321045
Usenet as a platform was so fundamentally different from engagement-driven social media that it's impossible to explain early net idealism to anyone younger than ~35. Even Usenet's immediate inheritors, forums and suchlike, carried the idealism but not the structure.

>>321011
I just read fiction books anyways so I don't really care.

>>321107
>it's impossible to explain early net idealism to anyone younger than ~35.
Rosy-eyed techno idealism persisted well up to the start of the 2010s

>>321045
>comic
I was literally just thinking about this earlier this morning.

The internet seemed world changing when we were all young and naive youths. The adults at the time gave solid advice, you have no idea who these people are, don't pay attention to what they say. The internet is the home to crazies and so on. But I didn't want to listen to any of it.

Now at the age of 40, I am basically just repeating the advice from the adults of my youth only for the current generation to ignore it and repeat the same mistakes. The internet doesn't provide that much benefit to people who are already struggling in life. People who claimed the internet changed their life for the better likely would've just found success in another way if it didn't exist.

If the internet is anything, it is just an accelerator. An accelerator to help chads be more chaddish and for losers to get bullied even more. Or if you are a recluse, it helps you seclude yourself to the extreme.

>>321111
Yeah, it was a lot like a chicken's body running while its head was already cut off.
Or perhaps more practically, like people talking about the internet as a lawless "Wild West" after the DMCA and COPPA were both passed.

>>321113
Say what you will but I have been using The Pirate Bay since the 2000s yet unmolested

>>321122
Let us assume that the metaphor of the Wild West refers to the absence of formal legal procedural structure rather than the absence of all law enforcement, such that it makes sense for a movie about the "lawless wild west" to follow the adventures of a Federal Marshall apprehending an interstate commerce violation such as theft and illegal transport of cattle or stolen gold bullion, since the movie's portrayal of lawlessness would involve the Marshall performing warrantless search and seizures, summary field executions, provocation to violence and escalatory responses to provocation and other violations of law enforcement procedure identified with the settled East.
Therefore it would make no sense to rejoin to "Victorian London was not the Wild West" with "are you stupid look at the Jack the Ripper case that dude gutted all those prostitutes and got completely away with it and the only suspect to have been hanged was that succubus who almost certainly didn't do it."

Settled law and settled law enforcement have come to the internet just as Scotland Yard came to London. In both cases the issue is not absence so much as ineptitude. Treating the net as though it were the young frontier rather than the rotted heart of a decaying empire is incorrect framing.

i made this post in the other thread but maybe its better here. How do you use vpn and four chan nowadays?

>>321125
You don't, just watch the end credits. Privacy is over, Hell won.

The internet is botted and dead.

>>321113
IIRC, "Medical Murder" show once described catching a serial killer by looking up the IP of the only person who looked up a particular small piece of a large map back in the 90s.



context: the killer sent an anonymous paper mail with a piece of map in it and a vague "look for bodies here" message; so that's all on him.

>>321124
Ok but I'm not reading all that