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>>321031
If I could drive a car I 100% would.

Sound exhausting and troublesome

>>321032
same, I lost my driving license due to neurological illness

I lived out of my car for like a week. I onyl lasted a week because I wasnt forced to, and I had a room at my parents house. I just was fed up with dealing with my mom.

>>321031
A 300lbs wizard + a regular car to live in = ERROR COULD NOT COMPUTE



T_T

I plan on living in a van as hatchback cars sound uncomfortable mostly. I am doing my best to save up and get a cool spacious retreat to cope until i say goodbye to the world.

>>321031
I can't drive vehicles but for a homeless fren it isn't a bad idea live in a car

>>321031
i do this. not in the winter though but throughout the warmer part of the year. i bought an old delivery boxtruck and this has opened up travel for me. it has too many advantages to count.

>no need for nightmarish overcrowded public transport like train or bus
>go travel on a whim, whenever you want, no need to plan ahead many months in advance
>no need to book stupid hotels which would force me to use credit cards
>travel at your own speed, no need to rush, when something looks interesting i can just pull over and stay a while
>it is cheaper. the economy of scale is broken. i wrongly assumed bus and train are the cheapest way but they are not, they exist to enrich the owners, the train and the bus cost more then the diesel to go someplace when i ignore the yearly upkeek of tax and insurance but i am paying that anyway because i want to use a car for hauling, shopping and getting around.
>i can stand up inside the truck, i build a simple bed and a shelf that can hold free banana crates from the supermarket. also i build a table/workbench that i use to lurk on the laptop or make food
>is super nice for physical activities. i go skating and it is nice to have enough storage capacity to keep all my gear and some extra clothing

this car was like the best thing that ever happened in my life and my only regret is not getting it sooner. if i knew how nice this would have been i would have done this when i was younger.

sleeping in it is difficult though. just going in a random city or town and finding a place to sleep is a learning process, requires some getting used to.

>>321148
>i insist on being 300lbs, it is way better, you plebs don't know what is good, i don't care about digestion, taste is the only thing that matters, how does it feel in the mouth

they make cars in all sizes. in a boxtruck it could work. see how nice the driver seat is in a boxtruck? it is not crammed into a narrow cockpit, you can just get up and walk into the back, no squeezing or awkwardly hoisting yourself out, it is way better then a car. i live in a big city with very little parking space where my car doesn't make sense but everywhere else boxtruck is better, there is no comparison, regular cars are just inferior.

>>322721
>see how nice the seat is in a boxtruck?


Thank you for enlightening me on boxtrucks!

regards, the 300lbs.

>>322738

>regards, the soon to be 295lbs.

when i got the boxtruck all of these possibilities opened up to me and i became waaaaaaaay more active as a person. i'd expect you might experience something similar. envigorating, life-affirming and empowering feelings were felt!

all of the sudden i was out and about every day. i used it to throw stuff away that i hoarded, got rid of stupid impractical furniture and hauled materials to build my own furniture. started visiting these nice used furniture places where i found many treasures for little money. then i travel to other cities that aren't too far away via the autobahn, i once used it to drive to a house 2 hours away that was potentially in my price class. i used to be on foot and on bus/train and i never experienced this ability to reach places that are farther away then the big city i still live in. hopefully not much longer and when it is time, i can use the boxtruck to move to the other place in my own pace. not having to deal with stupid moving company assholes.

also used it to help my father the fool clean up his hoarding and throw away 40 year old paper files he will never look at again.

just the overall interaction with all kind of objects no matter how bulky has improved my life to new heights. now i walk into the construction store curious like a child, wanting to know what everything does and doing more and more myself. installed myself a super nice kitchen that is perfectly tailored to the reality of how i want to eat with a self-connected sink and faucet and i have electrical outlets everywhere. just pure practicality.

>>322739
>>322739
Cool :)


Thanks for the analysis, because Ive been looking for a reason to declutter or go full minimalist, even

>>322796
i liked the idea of minimalism for a while but i never quite got there.

what bothered me about minimalism was the lack of tools. if i don't buy tools then i don't have acceptable access to tools. what would be my alternative to owning them, some stupid app i could use to rent them i guess, i'd hate that. same with the car, i'd hate to rely on some car sharing.

i have a lot of shelving because i like having storage space. another real nice thing i can do with the car is buying stuff in bulk. sometimes i encounter a deal that is too good to be true and then when i have storage, i can buy without worrying where to even put it. i do think i have gotten quite good at it.

>>321031
I would do this but I have a very unreliable car that forced me into wrenching just to keep it running. I suppose I should be grateful considering it's an inherited car but my mom should had gone with a Toyota or Honda instead of this Eurotrash with it's plastic engine parts that fail after 90K.

>>322739
What kind of boxtruck do you have, when I search for boxtrucks I get something that looks like a pickup

>>322849
>>322848
>I would do this but I have a very unreliable car that forced me into wrenching just to keep it running. I suppose I should be grateful considering it's an inherited car but my mom should had gone with a Toyota or Honda instead of this Eurotrash with it's plastic engine parts that fail after 90K.

consumer vehicles are complete trash. i have an old package delivery boxtruck 7m long, 2m wide, 2,70m height. this was never meant for the end-user like me but for federal postal service. after ~10 years of usage they sold these in bulk and in some places they buy these in bulk and sell them for cheap.

turns out the car manufacturers CAN build vehicles that last a long time and are easy to maintain, they just prefer not to and only do it for professional use, not for the people because fuck the people. i'll never buy a normal car again, i will always want a used boxtruck like that. this is simply better in every single regard other then ease of finding parking in urban area.

I watched a few videos of people doing van living, there are even communities of van dwellers

There is a community of them in canada, they try to survive winters in their vans and cars, one succubus spent 20 grand on a diesel heater

I have to wonder why they don't simply move to a warmer location during winter time, the whole advantage of living that way is that you're mobile

I'm starting to think that the whole thing might be kinda dumb

i had no home so i slept in my pontiac vibe for a bit, honestly its okay but it depends on where you live. A lot of cities are pretty strict and police and security can be annoying.

>>322853
100% - Stealth camping is just a ploy for clicks on the internet.

>>322851
Vanlife isn't free, and easily slides into money pit status once they start strapping heaters and solar panels to the rig. They'd be money ahead just getting a roommate in town if mental health wasn't getting in their way.

>>322854
>Stealth camping is just a ploy for clicks on the internet.
I think it's more just something guys do for fun and for the chance to experience something new, with new challenges and lessons to be learned in peaceful solitude away from our day-to-day lives. So you know, they do it for the same reason they do most other things. How do you not know this? Are you a female?

I did this is a class B RV. It had two major issues. First was, shit would break and I couldn't fix it myself so I had to pay for a tow then for a shop to fix it at captive prices. Second was fuel was expensive. I bought an electric hatchback to give it another go. There will be less space, but there are free level 2 chargers still around and you can sleep at level 2 chargers overnight because people think nothing of a car being hooked up to one overnight. This I'm hoping will solve my parking issue when I'm not on public land. Plus I have all the power to use for cooking and stuff.

I do this just because sometimes I need a break from living with my parents but I'm too mentally ill to afford a place to rent. It's not bad, gives me some time to be truly unpressured and away from the negativity of my parents.

>>321031
>>321032
Would/10, I'd save so much money by doing so. Sadly it's practically illegal where I live.

>Of course you don't have a bathroom you will have to rely on gyms to wash yourself

This is not necessarily true. Only if you are planning on doing the stealth urban camping thing do you need to rely on public toilets. If you are in the woods you can either just shit right in the woods or bring a little bucket toilet with a liner and shit in that then you just throw your shit in the garbage like it is dog shit. I got a privacy tent that pops up plus a little collapsible toilet.

I also got a bucket shower. They are just a pump on the end of a hose with a shower head attached to it. Quite cheap. You heat up some water put it in a bucket then put the pump in there and it works like a shower. Can also be used with the privacy tent I have. Might not be fully legal because they want everyone to collect all their grey water, but if you're not using soap you're not actually hurting anything. When you do need to actually use soap to wash your hair or something you can actually collect the water into a basin.

I got 4 5 gallon water jugs. One of them I am planning to use for grey water, the rest for fresh water. I figure I should be able to go 1-2 weeks and get one shower out of that. 1 shower per week is about right when living in a car.

>>321031
I'm not trying to put down wizards that are FORCED into this situation.
This entire van-life or living out of your car meme spread across the internet in recent years and it is for privileged normies that havent had to face a real challenge in their life.
Basically well off retards dream of this so they can have their own struggle.
That or autists that like to think of how to utilize small spaces.

Even then I'd much rather live in a tiny apartment. My back just hurts thinking of having to live like this.
Are you young and healthy? Well not for long if you do this and if you aren't you are just setting yourself up for suffering.

There is this guy dbdr/hatflying on youtube that talks about his experiences.
Just listening to it second hand sounds miserable.
Imagine getting a UTI and having to piss every 5 minutes for a week during a cold winter. Terry Davis killed himself after living in his car for a while too.

It beats roughing it outdoors if you are homeless I'm sure, but not something to yearn for.

>>323087
One guy who lives in a suv said that his lifestyle was a choice between debtslavery/wageslavery and freedom, but yeah it's a shit life in its own way

There are almost no good choices if you aren't rich, if you want to be free you gotta be rich

>>323087
>and it is for privileged normies that havent had to face a real challenge in their life

generally i can't really see the validity in your perspective. watch this dude for example

https://www.youtube.com/@CheapRVliving/videos

vanlife is
>a great way to escape the nightmare of being a renter in a parasitic economy and being wise with what little money you have
>a way to stay active in old age and live the DIY lifestyle instead of throwing money at every problem
>connect to your nomadic hunter-gatherer roots, constantly travel and spend more time where you would like instead of where you ended up
>be more in nature

seems like you did not take great care of yourself when you write

>My back just hurts thinking of having to live like this.
Are you young and healthy? Well not for long if you do this and if you aren't you are just setting yourself up for suffering.

that's what you get when you live like a fool and mock the healthy people…

greetings from a camping spot in rural czech republic. i'm trying to sleep and the neighbors are loudly playing marching music laughing_emoji_with_tears.png

In the summer why not, if you feel adventurous. But in the winter this gonna be hell

>>325623
It seems to me good only if you do it for fun a while, but no for living this way.

i think about living in a car a lot i probably could if i wanted tbh

>>325623
i dont do it in the winter but if i was more confident in my heater maintenance skills so that i could depend on it, i might. appartment in the winter is nice too though.

>>325629
Well you're in a car maybe go to a warmer place for the winter

>>325625
if you can find places to park for the night, it is a nice way to slowly travel through a region and escape from the monotony of living the same day over and over

>>325630
my guess is that this is how the pros do it, i still feel like a beginner despite having the van for 5 years. i might try spain/portugal in the winter

>>325623
It's actually the opposite. Cold weather is no problem. Biggest problem is keeping your water jugs from freezing which you can do easily with some heating pads. Snow is also a problem for the car but they do a good job with roads most places. It's so comfy to sleep in cold weather in a tent or in your car. You can perfectly control your temperature. I use a heated blanket but you can do the same with just normal blankets, it just takes longer to warm up. In summer the heat will murder you in a lot of places.

Just a tip for those considering doing this in the US. It has become increasingly illegal in the past few years to "camp" in a vehicle, AKA sleep in your vehicle. Lots of cities have banned it at a local level. I think it's some sort of organized thing going on as part of project 2025. They had a big section on that in rounding up the homeless and putting them into some sort of work camps.

The solution to this is to have completely impenetrable window coverings. If a pig comes knocking. Do not answer. They cannot open your car without a warrant which they cannot get on the spot and likely won't get at all, but nonetheless, if they come knocking, move. If the cop is unable to physically observe you sleeping in the car, you can't be arrested for it. And yes, arrest. The penalties in some places are actually felonies now with over a year of jail time. It depends on the locality.

Also, never park on private property unless you have explicit permission from the business owner. The days of just sleeping in random walmart parking lots are over. If you are on private property then the cops have the right to tow and impound your car. Public land is still fine as long as you move districts every 2 weeks. The enforcement on this has actually been impacted by all the cuts they made to the US forest service and other branches that do that sort of stuff. You can usually get away with staying longer lots of places but I enjoy moving around so I've never felt the need.

>>325636
>rounding up the homeless and putting them into some sort of work camps.
I wish.

>>325636
I remember some pig screaming at me for having pulled over on the side of the road too many times in a row at a visible spot. You always have to have a rationale for why you would pick the spot you are in, otherwise that shit can happen. My mistake was picking areas for which there was no logical reason for someone to park so the locals got anxious

>>325639
One time some cops came to ask for my ID and shit when I was camping somewhere. They said that they were checking out this spot because one of the dudes who used to camp here did some sort of political shooting. Their logic is, the spot is cursed and attracts crazies I guess lol. Cops are barely sentient.

>>325645
sounds like want to catch people who are doing a pilgrimage. There is logic to the things they do, but they lie about it to the public and have a very suspicious attitude. They also have something called blue light syndrome