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 No.322610

happy new year and all of that.

treat yourself to some sesame paste if you never head any. i regret learning about this so late, i can't help but want to warn others on not missing out on this goodness. it is just one ingredient crushed industrially into paste: sesame seeds.

when you buy it in the store it is separated and the separation is strong. when you stick a spoon in and try to stir, the bottom is so strong that the spoon can not stir. and you have to shake it and keep it in a shook state.

the sesame paste hides behind a bit of effort but the reward is worth the extra work.

the taste is amazing. mild and nutty. the nice thing about this is that it has a high fat content but it is not as impossible to digest as oil is. it still has it's fiber.

i use this to make sauces without oil. i just put tomatos and herbs into a blender and then i add a few tablespoons of this stuff and it turns into a nice creamy sauce but a sauce that the human organism has the chance to actually digest reasonably.

this stuff is so good, i wonder why it is not sold in regular supermarkets, i bother to go to the muslim markets just to get this goodness.

 No.322612

Goyslop

 No.322614

>>322612

candidate the best source of fat that isn't an avocado for the human organism, how's that slop. if you didn't have tiktok influencer opinions as a substitute for a brain, you'd agree.

also it tastes amazing, i'd just eat it for the nice taste. i've bought from more then 10 different brands so far and they all taste different but i never had one i did not like.

also it is sold in various sizes and container materials. i buy them in thick 1500g glasses but they are also sold in plastik milk containers.

in the turkish supermarket i buy it, it is about half an aisle, maybe 3m on shelves with 5 levels, just different brands and sizes of sesame paste.

 No.322615

>i use this to make sauces without oil. i just put tomatos and herbs into a blender and then i add a few tablespoons of this stuff and it turns into a nice creamy sauce but a sauce that the human organism has the chance to actually digest reasonably.
Doesn't tahini has olive oil in it by default? Anyway, better make your own tahini, that's what I do. Just some sesame, oil, salt and spices, and I have the good stuff. Too bad I can't get hummus right, it always turns out too liquidy.

 No.322616

>>322615
>Doesn't tahini has olive oil in it by default?

i don't think so. i think they have a sense of purity about it to not have any other ingredients, i think i did check the ingredient list of every brand i bought and nobody put anything but sesame seeds in.

>Anyway, better make your own tahini, that's what I do.


i tried it but with my small powerful blender it did not work without me adding a bit of external oil, which i consider cheating and a failure. i roasted the seeds myself, maybe i roasted them just a tiny bit too much. i wanna try again in the food processor but sesame seeds are actually hard to find where i live. i can't just buy a big bag full to experiment with.

>Just some sesame, oil, salt and spices, and I have the good stuff. Too bad I can't get hummus right, it always turns out too liquidy.


this point of getting the sesame seed to release all the oil seems quite hard to reach with non-industrial equippment. i will not give up just yet but i am also glad this stuff is being sold in big glasses, already perfectly crushed.

 No.322629

yesterday i made wraps with a sauce in the blender made from
>sesame paste
>roasted whole peanuts
>dried rosemary
>dried italian herbs
>curry powder
>hot curry powder
>vegetable broth powder
>real fresh ginger
>real fresh onion
>real fresh turmeric
>black pepper
>paprika powder
>real fresh bell pepper
>real fresh cilantro
>honey
>cilantro powder

was very guud! no factory sauce necessary, i make my own sauces that taste better. takes but a few tries to make something that is better then anything in the store or the restaurant. even though they are professionals, the cheap restaurants and takeout aren't all that good, they can be easily surpassed with a bit of experimentation.

first time making something ususally not that good.
second time making something, already better then the supermarket.
third time making something, already better then the restaurant.

 No.322630

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>>322616
>i don't think so.
there is oil in the sesame seeds by nature but some tahini sellers just add some vegetable oil so they can sell more
anyways since this is the first time i see non arabs talk about tahini and i want to spread its beauty heres how to make some proper tahini sauce
mix 100g of sesame paste with the juice of 1 lemon and a clove of garlic and mix until it becomes stiff then add water until you get the wished consistency and add salt to taste, if you want some colour in it just put in finely chopped parsley

 No.322631

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>>322630
>there is oil in the sesame seeds by nature but some tahini sellers just add some vegetable oil so they can sell more

that'd be very criminal, i hope not, if this is happening where i live, then i am completely oblivious to it. i don't think this is being done here though.

>anyways since this is the first time i see non arabs talk about tahini and i want to spread its beauty heres how to make some proper tahini sauce


aw yeah

 No.322632

>100g of sesame paste
>juice of 1 lemon
>clove of garlic
>salt late
>if you want some colour in it just put in finely chopped parsley

next time i see parsley in the store, i'm giving this a chance. i never know what to do with parsley.

i eat the sesame paste a lot with fruit. i put ripe banana and grapes in a blender with sesame paste and that's my basic slop i like to eat. fresh fruit is always better, self-frozen is fine too though. sometimes i add juice of a lime to it, sometimes some raw cacao, sometimes cinnamon, sometimes pecan nuts. i love how it tastes, how it digests and how it helps me being active and skate. also i look good. people who eat heavy at my age already don't look that good.

 No.322647

>>322632
>next time i see parsley in the store

brought some home and now i am making parsley sesame sauce to eat with roasted pumpkin.

~80g sesame paste
loads of parsley.
i'm not adding the lemon because i drank 2 liter of fresh juice today.
the garlic i am not adding either because i have an entire garlic paste i made that i will add. so 75% parsley and then 25% tahin.

 No.322648

>>322647
tastes interesting. i added a few drops of water to help it blend and then i threw a cucumber and some honey in and now i have a tasty green sauce 😎👍

 No.322649

happy new year 🥳

 No.322650

hny 2026

 No.322719

sesame paste haul today
4 jars, 600g each

i had the good fortune of having 4 organic ripe bananas available. before i eat i let them lay around for somewhere between 4 to 8 days. banana is the only fruit that keeps ripening nutritively, not as in 'merely getting softer' as in other fruits. i wait for the day in which the banana has dark spots all over, i prefer the taste and the consistency. unripe banana is so rubbery. depending on the prior management i usually don't have enough banana or i have way too much. ideal banana management requires going shopping often and having a clue how many bananas i want to have next week.

i threw in the blender
4 ripe organic bananas
400g red seedless grapes
1 small juiced orange
+small amount of orange and grapefruit pulp from an juicing session a few hours ago
and maybe 80g sesame paste

this digests well, nobody ever talks about digestion, all the fools are busy discussing taste. i laugh at that condescendingly, full of disdain. something with such a high fat content typically does not digest well but the magical sesame paste with all it's fiber is not that impossible to digest.

i subscribe to the opinion that red grapes are the number one food for the human organism. nothing can reach it's height. i try to eat it as much as i can but when i only eat it, i get tired of it after a while. if they gave the monkeys grapes in the zoo instead of cucumber, they would king kong the entire zoo, maybe even bend their prison bars out of shape.

 No.322769

>>322741
>these are the kind of obscure image board gems that make using them so fun. my cooking skills are horrible but i should experiment with this some time.

don't miss out on this goodness!

when i first used sesame paste, i'd make my own ketchup from it to eat with potato fries from the oven.

all i did was blend a small tray of cherry tomatoes, sesame paste and herbs and spices that i like and it tasted better then store bought ketchup on the first try. since then i have bought a small bottle of ketchup once of twice, just for nostalgia's sake.

 No.322770

the more i think about it the more guilty i consider the tahini eating cultures for making no effort to explain the miracle of sesame to other cultures. they were just gonna keep it to themselves if i had not come to leak their secrets!

 No.322789

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made another raw parsley sauce in the blender.

i have a nice blender in terms of convenience, with it i can just screw the bladeholder onto threaded glass jars (those with the twisty lids) and i can blend it right inside a glass with the size of my choosing; a glass i can either directly eat out of or store the thing i am making in. THAT MEANS NO MORE TRANSFERRING THE FOOD OUT OF THE BLENDER INTO ANTOHER VESSEL!!! no cleaning of the blender necessary, in most cases i just instantly rinse the blade out with water until the next deep clean.

this time i used:
>an entire bouquet of parsley (like 2 hands full), i mostly used the leaves and small stemps, pinching/cutting all big stems (i freeze those to make soup out of later)
>small amount of lemon juice
>a big spill of tahini (maybe 120g)
>vegetable stock powder
>water
>pepper
>honey
>fresh garlic, i very big clove
>fresh ginger, peeled, about as much as a the big garlic clove

tastes really nice, thanks to >>322630 for the suggestion, i wanted to eat more parsley for health reasons and never found a good way to do it, this is a good way.

 No.322910

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my current sauce game is

>real fresh cilantro

>real fresh dill
>real fresh parsley
>real fresh onion
>real fresh garlic
>real fresh ginger
>real fresh turmeric
>real fresh lemonjuice or real fresh grapefruit juice
>vegetable stock powder
>sunflower seeds
>pepper
>paprika powder
>real fresh tomato
>real fresh bell pepper
>curry powder
>dried rosemary
AND OF COURSE
>tahini

beside the fresh herbs this is all stuff i usually stock so i just buy the herbs when i am in the mood and the rest i always have.

i guess this could also be called a pesto at this point. i do like the taste but i guess i eat it mostly for health reasons.

 No.322913

Is it good just on its own? With bread or something? I can't be arsed to make sauce

 No.322914

>>322913
>Is it good just on its own? With bread or something? I can't be arsed to make sauce

yeah it is just like peanut butter, if you get a small glass i am sure you will not be disappointed. you can add it to lots of stuff. i'd never advise you to eat bread but if you do it anyways you might as well put some sesame paste on and maybe add some honey and sprinkle some cocoa powder on.

the only time i can remember where i didn't like it was when i tried to put it into coffee.

 No.322983

>>322789
>>322789
350 eurobucks for a mere "it can use jars" perk. Sounds silly to me.
I mean, if this 349 EUR device has the quality of a decent 200-250 EUR "business" blender for diners and cafeterias, then it's OK to pay some extra 100 EUR to save up hours and hours of workhours and rest hours per year.

 No.323004

>>322983

>350 eurobucks for a mere "it can use jars" perk. Sounds silly to me.


i understand your disbelief because 350€ is quite a lot of money but since this is an open source blender, you can just download the specifications and 3d-printing-files for free and build it yourself, or mostly yourself. they sell the blades-part (which is the most complicated part) for 40€, this one i woulud get because then you wouldn't need to metal bend and build gasket from silicone, etc. if you knew your way around motors and had spare parts and building materials collected, this is as little as it would reasonably cost you.

>I mean, if this 349 EUR device has the quality of a decent 200-250 EUR "business" blender for diners and cafeterias, then it's OK to pay some extra 100 EUR to save up hours and hours of workhours and rest hours per year.


it's even worse then that. i have a 30€ blender that rotates inside a glass vessel, i could have just continued to use it. it is slightly weaker but the additional power of the 1000w motor matters very little.

no the reason i got it is because it uses jars, this is totally worth it to me because the less cleanup and no more transfer is a tangible benefit. yeah i would have liked not to pay this much but it has simplified everything for me because i don't plan to eat cooked food much longer so this is all there is for me.

i also consider it supporting open hardware because as you might understand, proprietary consumer goods are turning into nothing but surveilance dystopia. wait for all the water kettle mysteriously stop being produced and the only ones available will be those with a little display in them so that they can show advertisement to you against your will because you are cattle to them.

 No.323005

Weak hippie soydrinkers will try to justify a $420 USD plastic box to grind their food into a paste by saying that most of the plastic is recycled and 3D printed and that the design specs for the device were uploaded online for free so it's progressive or whatever. They will say "No more cleaning" as a prime selling point because cleaning requires muscles that they don't have. They will turn decent vegetables in to slurries of spices and water because their tongues are unable to taste normal food after a lifetime of being burnt by niggerweed smoke.

Healthy men will just eat the food as is, or chop it with a knife because turning food in to paste is fucking stupid and has a history of making children's teeth and jaws undeveloped. If these men need a blender to make preworkout smoothies, they will get one from Goodwill for $14.88 and it won't ever break because it's not made by gay progressive weed hippies.

 No.323011

>>322614
Animal fats are the healthiest fats. Plant lipids are goyslop.

 No.323150

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>>323005

this is me and my vegan gang causing a ruckus in your neighborhood

 No.323193

currently enjoying a spiced nutbutter to dip vegetables in from the blender:


>bit of tahini

>bit of peanut butter (is a 100% peanut nothing else)
>raw cashews
>1 juiced orange with pulp
>small piece of ginger
>3 small cloves garlic
>1 small onion (a mild one)
>half a bouquet of dill (without the stems, only the furry parts)
>currypowder
>how curry powder
>fruity curry powder
>kurkumin powder
>pepper
>vegetable stock powder
>dark soy sauce
>almond oil small amount

i blend it into a thick paste and then dip cucumber and bell pepper pieces into it and that's my meal for the day.

 No.323293

yesterday i had nothing fresh left to eat so i made instant vegetable stock and ate it with cashew nuts. i stirred in a spoon of sesame paste but it didn't disolve completely so it was mostly at the bottom of the glass. i did this with soups often and was surprised it did not combine with the instant broth. i guess i never noticed in a soup because i constantly keep the soup moving and eat it with a big spoon from a shallow wide bowl.

can't remember where but a few weeks ago i stumbled upon the meme that 3 meals a day is a conspiracy and i think there might be something to it. i try to keep the window of when i eat somewhat small as in i don't eat breakfast, just liquids and then maybe at 4pm i start with a fruit smoothie and then the more dense stuff (well just nuts in my case) i eat last. when i eat like today until 11pm that it is a 7 hour window of eating.

lol muslims are such well-fed pampered consumers, they call this fasting: only eating in the evening and act like it is the hardest thing in the world XD

 No.323470

>>323193
once more i am enjoying this herbal pesto with cucumber and bellpepper.

this time i added dried tomato, real kurkumin, lots of real fresh parsley, real fresh dill and real fresh basil, i actually bought a organic basil plant in the supermarket and picked leaves off myself. i made two huge jars yesterday and i used my little vacuum machine and it really does keep the stuff fresher for longer. it is delicious, if i could reach through the screen i'd fix you a small plate so you can try.

is a strange feeling in the supermarket to buy 95% fruits and vegetables while almost everyone else is only buying convenient dead garbage from the factoy nipple (or EXTRUDER how the factory people call it).

 No.323514

If I am going to have some greasy food I'd rather have some chocolate. Greasy food gives me acid reflux.
I'm pretty sure most of these pastes are diluted with seed oils, that is they are useless slop.
I wonder if you can actually find high quality versions without additives or added vegetable oils.

 No.323546

>>323514
>If I am going to have some greasy food

the human body can digest fat but greasy (implying the presence of oil in it's concentrated form) a smart person would stay away from. the nice thing about a nut butter is that it still contain the fiber so they are on a different level then oils. i don't believe you can make the case for oils to be anything but poisonous peasant food addicting idiots into self-harm.

bad fat literally makes the sun harm your skin because the UV rays react with the bad fat when the sunshine hits the skin.

>I'd rather have some chocolate

because you want to enjoy the numerous health benefits of sugar and fillers?

i only buy cocoa powder and make my own chocolate nutmilk using hemp-nuts.

>I'm pretty sure most of these pastes are diluted with seed oils, that is they are useless slop.


i've tasted more then 10 brands and i got a feel for how thick they become at what temperature. 2 brands are an ecxellent and delicious, half of the others are ok and the other half are still useable for sauces, but not a delicious treat.

of course i don't know for sure but i think the manufacturers take this seriously.

maybe there is a way to better tell.

 No.323586

>>323546
>the human body can digest fat
Pretty sure most civilisation-bearing people's diet mostly consisted of carbohydrates up until the modern age. This contemporary "diet" of just casually gulping up greasy fast food is pure insanity.
>because you want to enjoy the numerous health benefits of sugar and fillers?
Wtf I didn't say I was doing it for health. If i'm gonna eat for pleasure I'm gonna eat these fancy expensive chocolate bars and pralines from the boutique store.
I think it's mostly this American candy "chocolate" which gives chocolate a bad rep.
>of course i don't know for sure but i think the manufacturers take this seriously.
>having faith in the food industry
lmao. Even expensive "authentic certified" Italian olive oils get caught diluting with cheap rapeseed oil. This disgusting seed oil shit is everywhere.

 No.323587

>>323586

>eat for pleasure

does it please you though? i have my doubts. there is this ice cream shop where i live and there is always a big line of people who buy some and then they sit somewhere near and they eat it. but they never look pleased. they seem annoyed, busy, preoccupied, impatient, restless.

i keep imagining they understand on a subconscious level that they are harming themselves and while they eat they have this difficult balancing act where one part of them says
>we really should not be eating this
and another part says
<oh shut up faaaaag, a little bit of harm is not that big of a deal, just make up for it some other day

 No.323628

>>323587
I don't think ice cream is bad for your health (if its made from real milk/cream).
Shit like fries, burgers, fast food chain pizza, kebab, potato chips, cookies and so on is what ruins it

 No.323633

>>323628
>fries
Potatoes heated in butter (milk fat)
>burgers
Bread, vegetables, cheese, and beef held together with tallow
>fast food chain pizza
Bread, tomato, meat, pineapple
>kebab
This is pretty disgusting yea
>potato chips
Same as french fried
>cookies
Oreos are peaty

 No.323635

>>323628
>I don't think ice cream is bad for your health (if its made from real milk/cream).

well there are things that a lot of people do that are bad for you that don't have a warning label. normal people are very unhealthy in plenty of places. when you only mindlessly imitate the other people around you thinking one of them must understand whether this is good, you are betting that everyone else isn't running this inferior method of finding out what is true and some of the normal people actually know what they are doing.

the way you can tell how bad something is yourself without relying on mindless imitation of normality is: you eat the thing for a month and see how you feel.

when you keep mixing your food, you will never know what food makes you feel how and you don't understand the digestive aspects. you have to understand how each food digests, otherwise you will never make good food decisions and get in your own way.

>ice cream is bad for your health (if its made from

>real milk/cream
>fries
>burgers
>fast food chain pizza
>kebab
>potato chips
>cookies

none of those are healthy. i refuse to eat any of this. from all the things on the list, kebab is probably the best because it has raw vegetables in it, which helps in digesting the garbage meat, bread and sauce it comes with.

question everything.

 No.323637

>>323586
Can someone explain why seed oils are bad? I know this is a retarded question and I could just look it up but I'm worried I'll just get reddit-tier propaganda.

 No.323638

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>>323637
>I know this is a retarded question and I could just look it up
Scientists, dieticians, and bodybuilders will give reasons why seed oils are bad and back it up with research. Tabloids, the kosher, and vegans will give reasons for why seed oils are good, supposedly backed also by research. You can get either side of the story from a search depending on the time of day.

The reason that I think matters the most is that seed oils simply aren't necessary. Olive oil and milk+meat fats have existed since Italy invented them in the 1700s. The seed oil industry was born out of finding a cheaper comparable alternative, and what they came up with was an alternative that turned out to not be nutritionally comparable and is no longer cheaper. The seed oil industry managed to grow due to the kosher industry not permitting the mixture of certain natural fats and oils with food, so in order for packaged food to earn the kosher label it must use these seedy alternatives. Companies not providing a certain amount of kosher products is grounds for federal fines and lawsuits. Thus seed oils are in everything even though they're crap and were never scientifically regarded as good. The same reason all milk is pasteurized.

 No.323639

>>323638
>Olive oil and milk+meat fats have existed since Italy invented them in the 1700s
olive oil goes back thousands of years ago and was a common ingredient in ancient greece and rome
same thing with meat fats, which probably go back even farther

 No.323640

>>323637
tastes bad and is bad for your health

 No.323723

>>323637
>Can someone explain why seed oils are bad?

oils (not just seed) are bad because they are an industrially made product not found in nature, our monke ancestors had no chance to adapt to them. the fattiest they could have eaten would have been avocado or nuts. no monkey invented a machine to refine out all the oil out of a plant and discard the rest to end up with a 100% fat content oil. this concentration requires machines that did not exist. so they could have never had the evolutionary time required to adapt their digestion to this much fat. so every time you are eating oil, you are eating something that (in evolutionary-scale timespan of a few thousands of years at most) is new to humans.

if you and your fat children now eat oil for hundreds of thousands of years, your fat children will have grown ways to digest oil; but not this early into the human evolution.

 No.323724

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 No.323725

>>323724
I use butter but I'm thinking of using avocado oil instead

 No.323726

>>323724
Damn, Kosher farming is brutal.

 No.323727

>>323723
>if you and your fat children
That's what's great about having kids with a 2D anime succubus. 2D kids can't get fat no matter what.

 No.323729

>>323727
What if you want them to get fat? :^)

 No.323731

>>323725
>I use butter but I'm thinking of using avocado oil instead

i'd be way more concerned about what you eat the butter and oil with. if it is bread or noodles or meat then whatever minor benefit you get from upgrading oil i don't expect to make a noticable difference for you.

unless you put a bit of oil into dressings and raw sauces you should never use oil for anything. frying stuff in oil is the worst, people do it so much. just cooking stuff gently already ruins the food. frying is way worse then cooking. baking is also awful.

if you insist on killing your food then steam it. it is super easy and the food not drying and remaining naturally moist is the least evil of all the methods. i stopped eating cooked food, mouth-pleasure is nothing compared to running your biological machine on the intended fuel. cooked food is a nightmare to digest as is proven by how hard the dishes are to clean.

all the stuff i eat i can basically just rinse off with water if i am lazy because it is so clean.

 No.323732

>>323726
animals weren't meant to be dominated so all the animal husbandry necessary to force animals into machine mindset is grotesque atrocity.

how come nobody knows how milk is made. this is not being talked about. kids aren't told how the cows are treated or they would not build the habit of consuming milk. they'd be disgusted.

i rejected cheese as a child and this turned out to be a complete blessing.

 No.323860

>>323633
unless you make it at home or buy expensive uncommon stuff all that food is made with vegetable oil
name a single fast food chain which uses butter for their fries, you can't

 No.323875

>>323860
Steak 'n Shake?

 No.323876

>>323732
And to think it all started with the plow. One technological development suddenly required chaining and beating buffalo to drag this device, turning them into an entirely different animal. Then our belief systems changed with it, from living in some form of forced-harmony (due to a lack of influence over our environment) to nature and its residents being part of our dominion. And from there on we just got better and better at exploiting and ravaging the natural world, dividing it into what is useful to us and what can be exterminated.
Modern human existence is, for the most part, a blight on the world. While we reap the benefits of our progenitors' lack of responsibility we will also pay for their hubris in thinking man may enslave nature in perpetuity without some kind of reckoning.

 No.323877

Last 4 posts are made by a literal faggot, can't you stop shitting the board ? Don't act like you are unaware, it's stupid, no one likes your posts.

 No.323879

>>323875
I looked at their website and they indeed are a rare case of a fast food company not using seed oils.
This does not really change the fact this is uncommon and if you go to a random fast food place like McDonalds or Five Guys you almost always get served vegetable oil fries.

 No.323883

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>>323876
>And to think it all started with the plow. One technological development suddenly required chaining and beating buffalo to drag this device, turning them into an entirely different animal.

if humans weren't addicted to live above their means, they wouldn't have to enslave all the other creatures.

domestication of the dog i believe to be another mistake. dogs have ruined humans, made them boring and industrious team players like they are. riding horses was also a mistake.

to counteract similar ambitions in myself i prefer to buy groceries on foot and carry them in a backpack and not some wheeled vehicle that will just make me weak and lazy. at least this little part i can control i will make sure not to repeat humanity's mistake and finally learning from it.

>Then our belief systems changed with it, from living in some form of forced-harmony (due to a lack of influence over our environment) to nature and its residents being part of our dominion. And from there on we just got better and better at exploiting and ravaging the natural world, dividing it into what is useful to us and what can be exterminated.


economical thinking (which is just a collective form of living above the means) created a system that rewards the utility maximizers, which i believe the world would be much better without.

>Modern human existence is, for the most part, a blight on the world.


yeah.

>While we reap the benefits of our progenitors' lack of responsibility we will also pay for their hubris in thinking man may enslave nature in perpetuity without some kind of reckoning.


thas rite.

 No.323884

>>323883
That image in response made me chuckle.
>if humans weren't addicted to live above their means, they wouldn't have to enslave all the other creatures.
That's how I saw this for a long time as well but I heard someone explain this "metacrisis" as a bunch of prisoner's dilemmas / multipolar traps essentially. Let's say people like us are a tribe and we do our best to live simply and in as much harmony with nature as we can manage, so maybe hunter-gatherer plus what little agri/horticulture can be managed without animal husbandry. As soon as any other tribe begins to engage in agriculture and so on, they will radically increase their population, manage to specialize, increase their offensive technology and so on. Basically everyone else now is forced to also engage in these actions if they want to survive against this other tribe. Of course this leads to a race to the bottom type dynamic where the state of the whole gets much worse due to the increasing burden on the natural world, conflict between tribes and so on, yet nobody feels like they can afford to not use these new technologies, otherwise they will get destroyed by those that do. And dynamic applies in all aspects of life and the ratchet-effect-worsening of things year after year.
The issue is that those people who want such power and are good at acquiring it are usually the kinds of psycho- and sociopaths who should least have it, yet they are the ones driving the larger changes in the system due to the mechanism above.

Like you I try to do small acts of intentionally limiting myself, consciously going against this constant propaganda to consume more, be more comfortable, not think about any of these issues and so on. I'm quitting coffee for instance, since I don't live in a place where it grows naturally and habitually drinking something that requires multi-continental supply chains is no longer something I want to engage in, no matter how normalized it is in industrialized nations. I'm doing similar things with the rest of my diet as well.

 No.323889

>>323884
>a race to the bottom type dynamic where the state of the whole gets much worse due to the increasing burden on the natural world, conflict between tribes and so on, yet nobody feels like they can afford to not use these new technologies, otherwise they will get destroyed by those that do.

yeah this is why we can't have nice things, maybe this would change once people realize that every form of technology is automatically a weapon but this would require responsibility and responsibility is the thing people built weapons for in order to avoid it.

race to the bottom sounds like an awesome name for a band or a podcast.

it is quite difficult to carve out a little space to survive while the race is happening indeed. when keeping in mind what you just succeeded in expressing, everything that is worth capturing will eventually be part of the corrupting efforts of competing groups which is why human progress can only happen in the realm of maximum insignificance. as soon as you get popular, some group tries to turn you into fodder for the cannon. the difficulty of the age in which people refuse to understand that competition is the problem (and not the solution) is to remain underneath the threshold of detection as to avoid otherwise inevitable corruption.

>And dynamic applies in all aspects of life and the ratchet-effect-worsening of things year after year.


it is quite challenging trying to keep up with the rate at which things are enshittifying through self-sufficiency but what else is there.

>The issue is that those people who want such power and are good at acquiring it are usually the kinds of psycho- and sociopaths who should least have it, yet they are the ones driving the larger changes in the system due to the mechanism above.


thas rite tell em!

>Like you I try to do small acts of intentionally limiting myself, consciously going against this constant propaganda to consume more, be more comfortable, not think about any of these issues and so on.


i am sure this will put you on a positive trajectory. this way of life kept me from becoming one of these people who regret their entire life and get out of shape and depressed and look way older. i still look young physically but once you hear me talk irl you wonder which retirement home i escaped from XD

>I'm quitting coffee for instance, since I don't live in a place where it grows naturally and habitually drinking something that requires multi-continental supply chains is no longer something I want to engage in, no matter how normalized it is in industrialized nations.


that's interesting. i drink about 4 cups of coffee a week and i have recently started to alternate between decaf and regular coffee. it is silly for me to drink something that gives me energy when i already have plenty of energy. good on you for minding a complicated supply chain, i think i am at the point where i want to reduce it to a luxury. maybe something like twice a week. once i gotten more into herbal teas i am sure i will quit because i'll want to drink different herbal teas with different effects. i prefer the effect of licorice root tee to coffee, i think the last thing i am missing to begin doing it more is get a thermos that i like. i have a few that are too modern and colorful, i yearn for something plain and simple XD

>I'm doing similar things with the rest of my diet as well.

where is the subscribe butten i am looking for the subscribe butten but i can not find it HELLO!?!?!?! CUSTOMER SERVICE THIS IS ANON! I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FINDING A SUBSCRIBE BUTTEN ON THE WEBSITE. yes i will wait, i appreciate you being patient rajesh.


oh there it is:
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i recently bought a battery powered blender 600ml and i fill it with

>banana

>grapes
>ginger
>mint leaves
>cinnamon
>one peeled lemon
>water

and put it in my backpack as i am out and about. then when i want a smoothie i just blend it and i get the freshest possible smoothie. throughout the day i mostly drink a smoothie or two and then in the evening i usually have a simple meal of raw vegetables (mostly cucumber and bell pepper) with some sauce that i dip the vegetables in, usualy involving
>tahini
>fresh herbs
>garlic
>onion
>spices
>some nut (usually walnut or almond)

feels good, tons of energy i barely know how to wield yet.

 No.323903

>>323635
what is more surprising there isn't any relevant information on what each foodstuff does to the body compiled already
no current research either
all you can find in medical papers is nutrient x correlates with condition y
last significant discovery in nutritional science was the discovery of the vitamins in the early 20th century
even worse the info out there is full of misinformation with people trying to shill a product

 No.323912

>>323903
>what is more surprising there isn't any relevant information on what each foodstuff does to the body compiled already
>no current research either
>all you can find in medical papers is nutrient x correlates with condition y

you have reached the point at which you can see the inferiority of a system that is based on money and violence in which a a few disproportionately influence what the many get to hear based on the whims of psychopaths and their secret world of 5d chess.

the solution to this is look for the information yourself. in this case i believe it means: you have to know how each type of food is digesting in your human body.

in the beginning you might not be able to know all the details like ph-values about everything but you are equipped with everything to solve this puzzle. you can tell how long something travels through you, how it makes you feel, if you feel tired, hopeless and depressed or strong, optimistic and full of life. meanwhile advertisement and convenience try to seduce you.

>last significant discovery in nutritional science was the discovery of the vitamins in the early 20th century


don't limit yourself to science if you are so far as to understand that science is but the expression of the inferior system. science found the lymphatic system in the brain only a few years ago while others knew this for a long time. recently they (the science bitches) found the brain converts glucose to fructose.

 No.323914

>>323912
>you have reached the point at which you can see the inferiority of a system that is based on money and violence in which a a few disproportionately influence what the many get to hear based on the whims of psychopaths and their secret world of 5d chess.
Yes
>the solution to this is look for the information yourself.
There's not much you can do except toying with different kinds of foods and diets and see how you feel. If a certain routine causes cancer in the long term but makes you feel good in the short term there's no way to know this.
>you are equipped with everything to solve this puzzle.
best case you find some routine which works for you, nothing really compensates for this lack of information and presence of misinformation
>science is but the expression of the inferior system.
The modern way of doing science was invented in Western Europe a couple of centuries ago in a society very different and unlike our current system. Science itself is not tied to the system and people's outside of the system also engage in investigation, speculation and collection of knowledge.

 No.323941

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