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a country of wizards Anonymage 03/18/26 (Wed) 20:37:45 No.323155

I've always wondered how a country of wizards would be run. Genuine inquiry. I don't wanna hear any normalnigger cope like "they'll just become degenerate like the rest of us lol!" normies say to make themselves feel better. I mean seriously. From my experience being around r9k and wizchan (being raised by them and being one for life), I've encountered many wizards over the years who are profoundly intelligent, but regular societal structures harm them to the point where they never realize their true potential. They are struggling to exist peacefully enough to attain self-actualization, which seems to the wizard's highest goal by instinct. No matter where they are in the world, the patterns are always the same.

Let's pretend that in this hypothetical country, there's an even mixture of wizards and virgin maidens.

I'm thinking the fertility rates would be low since they'll breed slower, but they'll produce higher quality offspring, mate for life monogamously and have big households. Since this is a high IQ population, they'll make better dietary decisions if animal proteins were cheaper, produce higher IQ offspring and have far higher impulse control than normal people. IQ is very important here, because it's connected to a long lifespan, stable families and an advanced society.

There won't be the constant pursuit of happiness or chasing the future, since most wizards are deeply aware of the dark realities of life and struggle to delude themselves like everyone else. Perhaps they'll understand the present moment is enough since its all there is, and being nihilistic is normal, and in a country like this, they won't have to feel alone. I know I certainly won't feel alone, but I don't know if other wizards would.

I believe the internet age in the 80s-90s was the most revolutionary step. For the first time in human history, the wizard discovered he is not alone in the world. At the heart of the internet, this was the most profound transformation that rippled outward. Now that we're already halfway into the millenium, I think a nation of wizards might be the next step into the future.

What do you guys think? I have never seen anyone discuss these hypotheticals before, ever.

Anonymage 03/20/26 (Fri) 10:40:18 No.323160

What would be the point of a wiz country where wizards stopped being wizards?

It'd make more sense for there to be a normie base while the wizards served as the nobility, all serving under one grand wizard king. The normies would do all the work while the wiz class lived in luxury and practiced their magic so they could continue to suppress and control the normie base. Some children of the normies could join the wiz class if they passed the wizard trials, so the wiz class wouldn't diminish.

With longevity and automation technology, the normie base would perhaps not even be needed eventually and they could be exiled from the country.

Anonymage 03/20/26 (Fri) 22:45:54 No.323166

>>323160
>wizards stopped being wizards

I didnt say that anywhere in my thread. I meant to say that wizards can choose to remain wizards freely without being insulted or denied social support, and if he ever changes his mind, like in the case he wants to save his race or become a father, he can breed with a maiden that actually loves him and be a good family to the children (instead of being plagued with adultery, divorces, betrayals, abuse, etc. like in normie society). That's all.

The normies absolutely do the work, but if this country became a place where even menial jobs like McDonalds worker made you more money than you'd know what to do with, I dont think normies would be necessary.

>With longevity and automation technology, the normie base would perhaps not even be needed eventually and they could be exiled from the country.

Exactly. Normies will be deported or killed if they refuse to leave, once they are done serving the wizard populations. They are not necessary.

Anonymage 04/07/26 (Tue) 06:35:55 No.323288

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>>323155
Israel Prime would be a wizard country if they didn't have sex.
You'd have a leader caste of owners that just NEET and a cattle class of normies that work.

If you just want to imagine a country made by us, nothing would get done and we would just die.
Some select few would survive homesteading or idk. I'm sure there are some skilled wizards here from reading some of the posts, but not enough to run a country.
They'd have no incentive to share either. 99% useless eaters with 1% producers situation.

>Let's pretend that in this hypothetical country, there's an even mixture of wizards and virgin maidens.
So, state of wizards that will have sex with some virgins maidens down the road?
Wouldn't be very wizardly… but I'll entertain it.

If you took this board and an equal amount of succubi and declared it to be a country you would have a decent number of crabs immediately doing falling over themselves to wag tail for a crumb of pussy.
"Our people" would soon use the truwiz types as targets of mockery to signal themselves as better mates to the succs.
They would be a majority too.
Truwiz would be oppressed worse than they are today in a normie society.
Since we are talking about starved loser crabs here being our new tyrants, as opposed to what you assume, them knowing the grim realities of the outside would only make them the most sick twisted rabid defenders of their newly attained position.

True wizards would suffer no matter what.
Succs will flock to the loudest most obnoxious power hungry crabs for perceived safety and as social enforcers would systematize our torment.
A country of """"wizards"""" like that is hell on earth.
A country of true wizards without succubi doesn't function. Maybe a commune of the competent among us (me not included obviously) could run, but nothing more.

Anonymage 04/07/26 (Tue) 20:39:13 No.323292

Probably the closest real world example is the monastic republic of Mount Athos.

The Shakers are an example of a religious community that died out because they were celibates only.

I think you have wrong idea, but a country run by a wizard elect would quickly be conquered. Wizards would not want to exercise power, and there would be little buy-in from mundanes.

These threads pop up from time to time.

Anonymage 04/07/26 (Tue) 22:57:42 No.323294

>>323288
Unfortunately this is the truth. If we’re being more realistic (while of course firmly in the realm of fantasy still) it would be a community of hermits occasionally helping each other out. But growing your own food, getting electricity, heating, running water, internet and so on is a lot harder than one might think. You might put 100 hours into gardening for X amount of calories. But if you just worked a normal job for a day you could easily buy multiple times that simply due to economy of scale. Hermitary still really speaks to me. Just abandon all my problems and live in a little cabin. Would need to either get NEETbux (a pipedream) or some kind of really low intensity remote job though.

Anonymage 04/08/26 (Wed) 01:27:02 No.323295

>>323294
Reminds me of the early Christian monks in Egypt.

Anonymage 04/18/26 (Sat) 22:44:36 No.323386

I would genocide normies and whoremongers. I would give luxury benefits to faithful families while murdering, butchering, genociding and rewarding who genocide normies. I would impale their assholes with a hot metal rod and stick them up at the sides of the roads and homes of where they live. I will classify them and discriminate against them violently, but unlike other genociders, I wont deny what I did. I will be proud and flaunt it around like a flex, because it is.

Anonymage 04/19/26 (Sun) 03:39:52 No.323388

>>323155
the flaw is that a functioning society needs multiple classes, like a warrior class and a peasant class.
some wizards could be warriors since they could be the warrior-monk archetype. but peasant work is unbecoming of a wizard, and any so called wizard who could be a high functioning peasant would reveal himself to ultimately be not a wizard.
regardless, it still wouldn't be sufficient to even produce a proper warrior class.

>Let's pretend that in this hypothetical country, there's an even mixture of wizards and virgin maidens.
that leads to this contradiction. a society needs to reproduce itself, so it also needs females and can't be male-only. but then again, the point of that society is that it's composed of celibates, so having female virgins for that purpose would contradict that.

>mate for life monogamously
i don't think that would be a good idea. the only viable possibility i can think of for breeding is if it's only a minority selected to breed by the community or a special committee according a eugenic criteria so the society doesn't go extinct, but that wouldn't imply an actual long-term romantic relationship, which would be unequivocally unwizardly and would ultimately degenerate into a normalfag society.

so i think that ultimately what you should actually be envisioning is a healthy, well-ordered society where wizards are their own distinct, respected class, instead of a wizard-only society.

>>323166
>I didnt say that anywhere in my thread. I meant to say that wizards can choose to remain wizards freely
the criticism is that once your society concedes that much then there's no certainty that it won't degenerate into any other normalfag society sooner or later.

>>323288
>So, state of wizards that will have sex with some virgins maidens down the road?
yes, that's why the whole thing is flawed.
this only really makes sense for gnostic communities and the like because they didn't care about creating a stable society but about escaping the demiurge-spawned hellprison.

Anonymage 04/19/26 (Sun) 03:56:59 No.323390

actually, never mind all that, i just came upon an idea that could make this hypothetical society work with both wizards and witches
basically, the wizards could cast their mana into recipients and then give them to the witches to funnel into themselves
that way they can be impregnated without anyone losing their virginity, or even having to be alone in the same room with someone of the opposite sex
(i know ivf is a thing, but i'm envisioning this as a low-tech, self-sufficient community isolated from the rest of the degenarate modern world)

it should obviously still practice eugenics
every conception should be planned
only the mana of the very best wizards is allowed to be placed into a similarly worthy witch

wiz… i think this might actually work

Anonymage 04/19/26 (Sun) 09:05:51 No.323394

i'd want to live in a wizzard country but only with wizzards of choice. wizzards who did not choose to be wizzards are unbearable to be around.

Anonymage 04/19/26 (Sun) 09:09:26 No.323395

>>323288
>You'd have a leader caste of owners that just NEET and a cattle class of normies that work.

>>323388
>the flaw is that a functioning society needs multiple classes, like a warrior class and a peasant class.

and exactly what don't you like about all the regular normie countries where this is common? if you are that much of a normie just obey whoever is loudest there and let them treat you like an object generating passive income for them since you believe this is a necessity and enjoy your caste system. i don't understand what you are doing itt.

Anonymage 04/19/26 (Sun) 10:27:18 No.323396

>>323395
>and exactly what don't you like about all the regular normie countries where this is common?
they are necessary pillars that any society needs if it wants to last, along with reproduction, which we've already solved thanks to my idea of external mana transfer, so you should be a little more grateful, wiz. that undesirable (unwizardly) societies have those classes doesn't discredit them because all societies need them. someone needs to do the work and someone needs to protect that society, and i don't think we should be the ones doing those things. the existence of those two classes doesn't say much about how those societies are structured or who rules.

>if you are that much of a normie just obey whoever is loudest there
that's called democracy, the rule of whoever is most persuasive to the majority, which includes things like being tall and good-looking, talking fast and confidently, and delivering some sick burns, and just in general whatever gives the majority the illusion of having "won the debate".
hierarchies are always inevitable, but there's types of government which give rise to worse hierarchies than others. obviously, since the rule of "whoever is loudest" is not desirable, the future wizard reich shouldn't be a democracy. but i don't know if it should be ruled by a single grand wizard (monarchy) or by a wizard elite (aristocracy).

>i don't understand what you are doing itt.
i'm trying to solve the practical problems of the hypothetical society.
so how about you now contribute a little more in turn, like giving us some ideas for the eugenics program of the future wizard reich?

Anonymage 04/19/26 (Sun) 12:29:43 No.323397

>>323396
>they are necessary pillars that any society needs if it wants to last

firtly they are not necessary, you merely insist on them while lacking the ability to imagine other systems. there could be other ways that you are not seeing. it is possible for something you believe to be a necessity not to be a necessity. you could be wrong. if 10 friends lived on an island, there is a whole lot of things that aren't necessary and you only need them after a certain size. how many wizards you think would be in the country. millions?

secondly you avoided the question. this unconscious cattle-culture of necessity and pillars that you unfortunately can not see past already exists in plenty of places and you can just go there. so my question stands, why not just go there?

>that's called democracy
i think you are a bit too militarized and non-consensual to know what is possible for humans. my guess is you need clear hierarchies and rely on non-voluntary relationships of superiors and subordinates and without those roles you increasingly complain how everyone is quiet and excludes you…

>so how about you now contribute a little more in turn…
if you sought knowledge instead of approval you would have realized that my scepticism is it's own form of contribution, it is the questioning of established ideas that you are too scattered in the mind to take the time to do.

>…like giving us some ideas for the eugenics program of the future wizard reich?

good god you are a bootlicking fool. there are plenty of empires.